Micro 177: Goonies Mafia - GAME OVER

[FuDuzn]

VOTE: Torcinator

Though I could support a Rach policy lynch

[FuDuzn]

Oh there is much to read Shadi.

Like for instance, you are town.

Discuss.

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New players like him don't use wifom as he did as scum.

Don't worry Seal, one day you will be at my level.

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Oh what the shit, Sea Lion is a hydra?

Did we know this going in?

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Ya I clicked on your wiki, the pleasure is all yours

But I digress, have you been the only head so far FF?

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I have to get offline now, so I'll see you later.

Also since I have you, what do you make of this post?

[FuDuzn]

Ha, already messing up?

And the O and F sigs make sense now.

Figured Orc would be the one to vote me.

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My name is Shadi so I'm scum. (Shady)

This.

An experienced player may do this, a newbie would not(as scum I mean).

So unless it comes to fruition that Shadi is some sort of mafia don, he is town.

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Ff, you don't think newb scum would make a post like that?

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I am just asking you guys what you thought of it, let's not get carried away.

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Also, this is my problem with hydras. I am trying to have a singular conversation with two people.

My 29 was in response to FF's 27

All other questions were directed at you guys in general.

Pre Edit: Thanks Ff

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The gotta run post.

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It is so lonely, so cold and empty in here. Someone, please........hold me.....

Rach, I would think Torc's avatar(or lack thereof) is low man on the totem pole when listing important topics here.

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The Walrus brings up a great point Rach.

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For the record, my talk about policy lynching Rach was a joke.

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Fu what did you make of the "gotta go" post?

Also I'm quite happy with my vote on Rach since she has contributed zilch despite evidently keeping up with the game.

Rach's early Day gameplay reminds me of Molla's Big Idea tbh, of course we know she was scum there.

And about the gotta go post, I just see it as a newb player narrating his every move. I was trying to see if anyone would 'opportunistically'(sp?) jump all over him for it, as scum will sometimes do. Though nothing of that sort happened, peobably from lack of activity from most people here.

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It was mainly because he was the only other one active at the moment, then I realized I was talking to two people lol.

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Sea Otter, he is still town more then ever.

Do you really think scum would make a post like that?

Pre Edit: Torc, sometimes you have to read between the lines......

Pre Edit 2: Ha, Rach doesn't know her own name

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Fudu: evidently I do, why would you ask me a question like that? I mean, I sort of voted the guy. You telling me why you think scum wouldn't make a post like that would be helpful.

Do you have a scumread or something like that

I don't really have a solid scum read as of now, orc(can read you well though).
UNVOTE:

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Because that would make him the dumbest scum ever.

Obv scum is never that obv.

Bad orc.

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I think scum would have reacted more to this Shadi thing if Shadi's scum.

How would you expect scum to react to this Shadi thing?

- fery

^

+ you guys are too busy tunneling me instead of lurkers. If I start to tunnel players now, it'd seem a bit suspicious.

Can't worry about how you are perceived......especially if you are town.

And Selkie, yes I am rethinking my town read on him.

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I assume it was Orc who said I wasn't acting pro town? Since between you and FF I have only played with him, and it was one game.......so what is my usuall 'pro town self'?

Thought I had an early town read on Shadi, but since the crux of my read was based on his newbness, I am backing away from that read.

Also Sea Otter, do you really think Torc is scum or is that an Orc rage vote?

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Also why would Yates be lazy uninterested scum? Seems like a weird scum tell.

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Ahh FF, you were in that game too? My bad, forgot about you lol.

Also no, can't say I have ever played a game with Yates(I think...?)

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Wasn't I voting Torc?

Pre Edit: UNVOTE: Actually

you unvoted in a previous post after your vote on Torc.

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Wasn't I voting Torc?

Pre Edit: UNVOTE: Actually

you unvoted in a previous post after your vote on Torc.

Well I guess why that's why you are the mod.

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Well, clearly by my last post I still thought I was voting Torc.

But, good idea.
VOTE: Shadi

And you can entertain the idea of me being scum all you want, but you still haven't answered why I haven't been pro town so far.

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So I guess you have me completely figured out after playing one game with me where I was lynched on Day 1?

And may I remind you, no one really thought I was pro town in that game as well.
VOTE: Selkies

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Manatee

-Fud

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Torc, you won't be quick hammered. Your worry should be about finding scum and stop worrying about how you appear.

And Goddammit Shadi, why you make me do this?
VOTE: Shadi

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My vote on Shadi is a bit about my failed town tell on him, and how he is going after Torc a bit. In a way it is more of a warning shot to him(and no that wasn't a vig soft claim lol).

And Mac, that is a good point about Empking......a really good point actually.
VOTE: Empking

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I didn't realize that he had contradicted himself until Mac pointed it out, and with the relative lack of activity from him I thought it was pretty damning and at the very least should shine the light bright on him.

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You completely missed my greater point, and trust me I hate 'lynch all lurkers'.

He wasn't active AND and popped in to make a vote with no reason that contradicted his previous read. If he was active we could have seen how he changed his read and a vote like that would seem ok. But a vote like that with not even a little explanation is bad.

Don't twist my words please.

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Ya sorry that was needlessly defensive on my part, after I re read my original post I was a bit vague on that..

But I mean, why can't you just read my mind?

And to answer your question, the only three people I would vote at this juncture would be empking, selkies, or shadi. Shadis seems to be somewhat trying to bait us into lynching him as a bit of wifom.

And the way selkies is using meta from a previous game to think I am scum is very iffy to me. Almost more of a gut read with them though.

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Hydras as a pain in the buns imo, but I am ever so slightly warming up to them

And Yates, why do you assume I am just going to sheep you?

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Ah ok gotcha, just thrown off a bit by your vernacular.

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You might say that Aafter should wait until after he previews his post. Eh? Eh????

I will be here all week......also this is a bit of a prod dodge cloaked in high comedy.

Possibly later tonight or tomorrow I will make a bit of a catch up post proper like.

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FUDuzn, Aafter, & Empking have all been prodded

But I just posted yesterday? *shakes fist angrily*

Post #352 (isolation #36) » Mon May 27, 2013 7:53 pm

I guess I needed that kick in the ass though. And Welcome HappyDove, and yes presuming that you are town then we are aligned on the same team yet again.

My way too quick sum up of the time I was gone.

Rach needs to do something, Torc needs to do something, AP undertsands me, I like the cut of AP's jib, Seal Team 6 is scum(aka Doc Holiday).......I sheep Yates.

VOTE: Doc Holiday

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FuDzn: Is your reasoning really 'sheep Yates'.

Yates made a comment that I would sheep his vote since we seemed to share the same scum reads. So no it is not my reasoning to vote Doc, just more of a lighthearted reference.

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Do I make any comment that is not witty? Four out of five dentists would say no.

We do need to jostle some activity in here though, we have the extension so let's make some use out of it.....I will start.

Rach and Torc, could you please post some content that is usefull for everyone.

Shadi, why are you posting throwaway posts?

Emp, wouldn't sheeping for no reason big a big problem?

AP, please don't leave me......

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Emp, wouldn't sheeping for no reason big a big problem?

If you had no reason to sheep then that's be a problem; if you had a reason to sheep then it wouldn't be a problem, necessary.

Grammar check?

Also, your jib is ok as of this point as well.

The big question is though, how does Doc feel about this sheeping?

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I need specific clarification on where I fit in here.

Also don't worry about being Night killed, you will be lynched toDay.

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Well tbf, I am not threatening you with a lynch since I already voting you(or more specifically Doc who you replaced).

This is fun though, I enjoy your posts. Please continue.

Pre Edit: Well this certainly is going places.

Pre Pre Edit: Stop posting so damn quickly!

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So, just because I am the only one on your wagon posting right all your anger and threats are directed at me?

Just want to be sure.

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If you are VT, which goonies character are you?

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Or conversely, do you have a character?

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Kuribo, reads from you would be nice as well. You can even continue to be batshit insane while giving them, I don't want to disrupt your game in any manner.

You and Shadi are my top scum reads while Torc, Yates, and AP(Torc being the strongest of the three) are my top townreads. Everyone is somewhere in the middle.

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Kuribo, reads from you would be nice as well.

It would, which is why I said SIT ON YOUR FUCKING THUMBS UNTIL I READ THE GAME.

Which is why I asked politely, take your time.

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hey shadi, you cheeky little newb, since you want my reads, what about yours? I assume you've actually read the game? So you should have no problem posting yours, right?


TIT FOR TAT, QUID PRO QUO CLARICE

Kuribo is my new favorite player.

He had me at hello.

Also, in case you were wondering K-Bo, 469 is a big reason why I don't like Shadi for town.

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Was only supposed to quote the silence of the lambs reference, not the whole post....heh.

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after six pages I'm actually kinda annoyed that i'm reading fuz as town

It is just impossible to hate me

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I would 'think" there are two scum, but given the Goonies flavor there may very well be three scum.

Actually, being smart about it most likely two scum. Would seem a bit unfair otherwise.

Pre Edit: UNVOTE:

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Rach is always a pain to read, I always think she is scum and then when I back off her as a scum reason because of meta......she ends up being scum. What is troubling me about her this game though, is that she has offered very little real content even though I keep asking her to do something. But then I end up back where I started with not being able to read her, it is all a big mind fuck. Rach, stop being Rach.

But K-Bo....RE: Shadi, you do say you would buss the shit out of your scum buddy so I could see you bussing Shadi here.......but that leap also means that Shadi is scum. I like the odds here and will take the all caps batshit insane rage train with you.

But similar to your threat earlier, there maybe some rope for you Tomorrow.

VOTE: Shadi

Pre Edit: Don't be waffling now as soon as I start to trust you.....

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Two scum, unless there is some funky game mechanic going on.

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Could go either way, pretty sure I have been scum in a 9p game with day talk. But I don't think it is the norm.

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Well it is possible, but I haven't seen anything so far that would be a tell of such a thing.

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Ok people, let's not go crazy here.......Torc isn't getting lynched.

Using a little PoE since I don't scum is in anybody who has posted on this page(they are not scum because of that, just coincidence) I believe we focus our lynching efforts on Rach, Emp, and Bacde. At the very least I would be shocked if there isn't at least one scum in those three.

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Wait, so you aren't actually mafia?

@Fu: Sorry but one of those 2 is almost certainly scum.

One of which two are you referring too? K-Bo and Torc?

I would highly doubt it.

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Fud, wanna posture a little bit about Empking for me?

A little bit later, about to eat and showerbeer, he was my numero uno suspect in my trio as well.

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Bacde, why not go after Emp first then?

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I'm happy that people are seeing sense on Shadi.

^comically insincere

Planted his vote and then nothing but snipe and adding nothing to the day

Let the record show that night was cut short.

Vote: Fudz

Apparently this is his reason to vote me? And he even said he has everyone else as a town read? Really sounds sincere

Why are you speculating about scum not getting a kill in when there was a kill?

I don't think anybody missed a night action and just in case it becomes relevant I noted down the evidence.

Evidence that the mod started the Day slightly early? How can that be useful

What does 'to Katsuki' mean?

Who had the best motive for the game carrying on relatively undisturbed from yesterday?

You do Empking, you are letting everyone else carry on and just sitting back
VOTE: Empking

Pre Edit:

I doubt the scum who failled to get their kill in on time agree with that sentiment. Oh there were no such scum? hmmm

Empking, is that your only reason for voting fuz?

Oh the two parts of my post were unrelated.

Its just that I've a town read on most players

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The bolded was his very sincere blanket town read of everyone, except me of course.

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The bolded was his very sincere blanket town read of everyone, except me of course.

It a very sincere townread of everyone but you, my OMGUsing friend.

So not even a slight explanation of who is town and why(or even why I am scum) is sincere?

Serious question as well, with everyone looking like they want Torc lynched.......why are you ignoring that and going after me?

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I had/have a gut suspicion about Emp in addition to my scum read on him. Probably a dead end to ask him the question I asked him, but his voting me while most suspicion in on Torc made me think.

And yes, I know that is a vague and mysterious response to you AP.

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Rach, obviously you are not 100% sure.......I would be nervous if you were. But why are you very suspect of him?

And Emp, there is something to you but I am struggling to put together the pieces exactly. It is like I have found the answer, but exactly sure how I came about it..

Can you give me something else to why I am scum in your eyes yet everybody else is uber town? Including Torc who everyone else is ready to draw and quarter as we speak?

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*but not exactly sure

Showerbeer hits hard sometimes.

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No, I have a reason. Just trying to work out the details.

Actually I guess it is somewhat gut, but based off.....something.

Emp needs to answer my questions.

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I feel as if that is a reference to something goonies related, but not sure what.

Is that your answer?

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Rach, obviously you are not 100% sure.......I would be nervous if you were. But why are you very suspect of him?

And Emp, there is something to you but I am struggling to put together the pieces exactly. It is like I have found the answer, but exactly sure how I came about it..

Can you give me something else to why I am scum in your eyes yet everybody else is uber town? Including Torc who everyone else is ready to draw and quarter as we speak?

This was the question to Emp, would like Rach to respond to her question as well.

And AP, it isnt quite as simple as omgus. I have a working theory on why Emp went after me, and why Torc has been voted heavily.

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And it is becoming frustrating that Emp refuses to answer a simple question. All I am asking for is a simple read on me, something more than a vote and blanket statement about everyone else.

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Actually waiting for Torc is holding up the game, as is my vaguness as of late.

Torc is Stef, I am Andy.........we are

Best Friends

. We have no Day or Night Talk(I probably would have coached him a bit if we did), but obviously we know each other are town.

This is why I have kept saying he is obv town and have tried to get lynches off of him, somewhat unsuccessfully. And my theory was that Emp(and/or his possible buddy) picked up on my obvious defense of Torc and thought we had a mason type PR thing going on. Maybe I am getting overly paranoid about that though.

So I say again, we are not lynching Torc.

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Best Friends know the other is town, the role PM was more or less 'you are best friends with Stef who is town'(paraphrasing for obvious reasons). No QT for us though.

And Frankly, Torc isn't active enough for me to try to poke and prod him in a direction here. And I didn't think it would be a good idea to openly generate conversation between us, especially with Torcs somewhat terrible play(no offense bff).

And my rvs vote on him was random, irony in my head of voting the one person I know is conf town seemed to fir the nature of the rvs. Where are you going with that?

Pre Edit: let me reiterate, no QT. I can't just tell him how to post and what to do, we are kind of left at our own play. In his case, for worse.

Pre Pre Edit: If I was scum buddies with Torc I would have leading the charge on bussing him, even with probably only two scum. I have no problem getting rid of what I believe to be a weak link(part of why I was bussing Baboon/GNR in Pick Your Poison, AP)

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AP, fear(and impatience) that Torc was going to be lynched before he could claim. I didn't want to sit by and let him die, especially when there appeared to be growing support for my lynch as well. This way at the very least, we clear two players.

Though, I guess the only way to clear us in you's guys eyes would be to lynch scum.

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Who are you popcorning too Rach?

Also LOL at you claiming watcher. Not that I don't believe you, but funny considering AP was just talking watcher claims.

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AP, why does it not sound legit?

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I don't think a RB is a stretch, I am sure mafia has some power outside of a kill.

Pre Edit: I don't think Rach said she can only watch a scum kill......

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I don't think a RB is a stretch, I am sure mafia has some power outside of a kill.

Pre Edit: I don't think Rach said she can only watch a scum kill......

she can only watch the scum kill if there are no town power roles

Ah ok, semantics got me yet again.....

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Seriously, I would be shocked if Torc and I are the only 'power roles'.

Scum is in the VT claims

[FuDuzn]

Or the best friend claims

Yes, you could say that as well.

But why make a fake claim outing both of us?

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But why make a fake claim outing both of us?

The two of you were the top two suspects.

Nah, as stated earlier I have no problem bussing my scum mate if I think he appears weak and he is a top suspect. Especially on Day 2 where we got a mislynch and pulled off a successful Night 2 kill.

Not to go all wifom-y, but it wouldn't make sense.

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You are a tunneling sort of player aren't you Emp?

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Ok so all arguments to why I wouldn't do that as scum don't hold much weight for a few of you, I wish you could get into my head to understand me but that won't happen.

But think about it, if Torc and I are a scumteam(and this a reason I don't think Rach is scum as well) then that leaves one town PR, and one who isn't that powerful. This isn't a bastard game, no way the mod would do that.

Logic and common sense will guide you my friends.

[FuDuzn]

Welcom Ride! My new bff.

Also, don't assume scum too quickly on k-bo.

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Rides, we are not lynching K-Bo. I use self meta all the time as well, for an experienced player it really isn't a scum tell.

Also we are not lynching RM as well, no way Rides and I are the only PR's. And we don't even really have a power(protective, investigative, killing etc).

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Okay then bacde, do you believe my claim or not?

YES! That's why I unvoted Torc in the first place. How likely is it that scum would claim BFFs? Not very

@Kuribo, if you are town you can't give me shit anymore for "not being able to read you" when you can't even read me

IMO RachMarie is scum and I have a good reason for thinking this

Care to share with rest of the class?

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Why are you assuming there aren't at least one scum PR as well?

[FuDuzn]

You have never seen Goonies?? Ok now I do want to lynch you.

[FuDuzn]

K-Bo Rach scum team. What is with you people?? Classic movie.

K-Bo, how are you feeling about AP right about now? I don't really like his posts over the last couple pages.

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Rach, we are like Masons without the Day or Night talk. My role PM more or less said that I am Andy and Stef(Torc, and now Ride) is my best friend and the only one I can fully trust(ie only person I know is town).

Also, it is starting to sound like AP is the lynchpin between all the vt claims. Who did he replace again?

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That's pretty shitty K-Bo, rage at me all you want.

Bacde, Rach isn't exactly the smoothest poster so maybe she did fumble her claim, but you give keep all cap telling me she is conf scum without a solid reason why. Simply put we are not lynching an unclaimed pr, we are lynching between vt's. Personally I believe it should be between Emp and AP.

And yes Ride, Rach claimed after I made our claim when we started popcorning.

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Bacde, what was you flavor Goonies character?

[FuDuzn]

Have you seen Goonies?

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I dunno, I feel like they are legit because I don't see scum claiming bffs

at least I wouldn't if I was scum

Thank you for displaying logic in regards to my claim.

I'd rather lynch IN PRs and specifically RM for a couple of reasons

.....wait what? Why do you bring all pr's into the equation when you just 4 posts ago said you believed us bff's? Seems like unecassary verbiage when all you had to say was we should lynch Rach. Also seems like a strange caveat especially when Rach, not two posts later says.....

In Gay Mafia scum claimed Masons for realz

And the real Masons also claimed

Was crazy. Especially for me since I was watching the game and was still fairly new to the site lol...

Think about this

Even though it is not as good as tracker or cop still my PR is the only investigative role we have here.

Do you think it might just be possible that scumz would push my lynch..... duh....

If we are going to lynch PRs I would rather lynch one of the BFFs after all it would either prove they are lying or confirm the other one as a townie.

Also I am not convinced that bacde is a 1 shot BP

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I am going to do a VCA of my wagon plus day 1 see if I can narrow it down more. I know there is at least one scum on my wagon.

Emphasis on the bold. You insinuate that scum is pushing your lynch(Bacde has been hardcore doing this), and you also insinuate that Bacde is lying(and therefore scum)........so if lynching between pr's then why is your primary choice one of the bff's and not Bacde? Why do I feel as if this is leading to Bacde wanting to lynch one of us bff's?

Something is fishy here, I almost feel there is a Bacde/Rach scum team attempting to communicate with each other in the thread.

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I would much rather it be bacde, actually. I believe his claim less. But i think even better would be to lynch a VT.

However Bacde is not willing to let this drop, so I was pointing out that one of you two would provide more info than killing off the only somewhat investigative role.

thats all

Rach, you said that 'If we are going to lynch PRs I would rather lynch one of the BFFs'. That doesn't sound like you would rather lynch Bacde.

Also, no response to me saying you and Bacde are a scumteam? Are you trying to just brush that under the rug?

Seems like something the average player would at least comment on.....

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Mothers of fuckers, I keep feeling I have posted in here more recent then I actually have, my bad.
VOTE: Bacde

I trust K-Bo and my bff more then I trust AP and Bacde.

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AP, did you pick up on any Lover tells from myself or Ride?

I thought the way I came to torcs defense was pretty telling honestly.

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Ya K-Bo is awesome, I look forward to playing another game with him.

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Also, AP is now a policy lynch.

He has been scum in 100% of the games I have played with him