Micro 177: Goonies Mafia - GAME OVER

[Shadi1337]

Let the RVS, begin!

VOTE: FuDuzn

[Shadi1337]

My name is Shadi so I'm scum. (Shady)

Nah, I dno... we cannot even perform a read coz there's nothing to read so far.

I would like to know why Yates says "you know why" but I assume it's an intern joke, especially since there's nothing to judge why "from".

[Shadi1337]

My gotta read the gotta run post!

[Shadi1337]

ZzZZzzzzZ

[Shadi1337]

hmm well it seems a bit odd that a newbie would come out and halfway accuse himself like that? As Fu said I could see someone who is very experienced say a Thor or a Nacho doing that, but a newbie?

I'm not a noob, just didn't have several games on this specific forum.

Probably not, so yeah Shadi is prob newbtown instead of newbscum. As for his comment on Torc, I took that as a joke especially since in a previous game Fu lost his avatar somehow and I commented on it.

I wish to be read as an experienced player, there's no reason to have sympathy on a new player in this game. It's a detective game and you have all the rights to jump on every slip. Whose idea was it to protect noobs in this game in the first place?

I have a good reason (besides being an IC type lol), for wanting avatars. It makes it much easier for me to read peeps. I am 70% blind.

Agreed, makes the user seem more unique and you'll easier remember whom it is.

However, I do not understand why crackin' an obvious joke in the start of a game due to my name really seems scummish. It's not WIFOM if it's not even slightly game related.

And to disprove that we're scum together with Rach I will now tunnel her as it seems like she often escapes cheaply by whatever the guy's name with meta experience on her was called.

In reality the vote is very randomly put, but I'm quite blank at this point and most reads are null/neutral and tilt not to left nor right.

So yeah, let's see how Marie handles pressure.

[Shadi1337]

Ffs forgot the vote itself..
VOTE: RachMarie

[Shadi1337]

Also Shadi

Who is Marie?

Yeah whom could that be?!

I think it's fine basing yourself on how people have played in previous games (meta experience is not wrong) but on how many? The latter sounds ridiculous to me.

Also I don't see how that was scummish. I just wanted to make a disclaimer since I was being protected based on an AtE action. (Me being new) and I'm not here for sympathy.

[Shadi1337]

Yes, but in case people jump on RM I won't change my vote. Also would I really try to start an actual wagon on her? Granted, my leads/reasons are not strong enough for that so I can see where what I'm saying is fishy.

[Shadi1337]

Would me giving links to those pages be advertising? (Also I have one community that wishes for me not to share their page, so you'd be missing 2-3 games from there; not where majority of the games I have played are, anyway)

[Shadi1337]

http://www.neondragon.net/viewforum.php?f=183 .. for all

(Do mind, that these games are usually much different from here both in rule set and how much information is given in the OP)

Also if you want me to pick directly from then I guess: (I haven't been scum often )

Town:
http://www.neondragon.net/viewtopic.php ... &start=360
http://www.neondragon.net/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=17092

Scum:
http://www.neondragon.net/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=16075
http://www.neondragon.net/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=16307

[Shadi1337]

wait what?

You are voting for me, you say if peeps jump on me you wont change your vote, then you ask would you really try to state a wagon on me

that is beyond fishy dude.... and definitely not pro town. Town should always push for lynching scum over well yeah no matter what I am leaving my vote on so and so even if it means so and so gets lynched but I am not starting a wagon nope nope nope



VOTE: Shadi

lol

I'm saying that I'm not making an attempt to wagon on you, but if a wagon was to happen I wouldn't jump off from it. Unless of course, some new hints are to come and considering we're still far away from deadline that happening is almost certain.

[Shadi1337]

Just browse through the threads, I don't really remember just do know I'm often a villager. The whole purpose of being here for me is to hone my scum skills but no luck to be one yet I just got lynched R1 here if you wanna read up on my first MS game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28000

[Shadi1337]

Fudu, Shadi is the furthest thing from a newb.

VOTE: Shadi

That's more like it

Hope it was enough proof that I'm not a newbie, so if you have a scum read on me go for it.

[Shadi1337]

Unfortunate that you're now going to be lynched for it isn't it

I rather be lynched for it than being given pity.

[Shadi1337]

Welp, 7:30 AM so prolly a good idea to hop to bed. I might read and/or post while being on my phone but no more PC for the night

Hope you guys think your decisions out thoroughly. Good luck to both teams and let the games begin ^^

Do take all actions in account:

I made a joke due to my name.
I "bussed" Rach; if it's enough for you to conclude scum then I shall not try to argue against because it's pointless. I will argue if and when I find a target whose suspicion is on a higher level. I guess I'm #1 so far

[Shadi1337]

Yes, but in case people jump on RM I won't change my vote. Also would I really try to start an actual wagon on her? Granted, my leads/reasons are not strong enough for that so I can see where what I'm saying is fishy.

You

know

why I'm voting you. So above post is bullshit.

Not really, and why? I wasn't bussing, you guys are free to wagon her and see where my vote is and she'd most likely jump on or even commence hammering me that is all I wanted to prove. As she protected me without reasons and here you are throwing ad hominem attacks to both left and right. I stick to my aforementioned point, notwithstanding. If lynching me is what you genuinely feel is appropriate then have at it and face your mistake after. Typing on the phone takes ages :/

[Shadi1337]

fery is a she

Um how can I hammer you Shadi I am already voting for you?

Dno what happens later, you could remove yours and then hammer me later. Duh.

[Shadi1337]

Hello where is everyone we are wagoning shadi

Ohai.

[Shadi1337]

Well, other than that I feel it's suspicious that you wanna have a target this early when there's plenty of time to change along with Rach there's not really much to read when people do nuttin' but lurkin'.

[Shadi1337]

I think scum would have reacted more to this Shadi thing if Shadi's scum.

How would you expect scum to react to this Shadi thing?

- fery

^

+ you guys are too busy tunneling me instead of lurkers. If I start to tunnel players now, it'd seem a bit suspicious.

[Shadi1337]

I screwed up my quote in 157.

@Shadi, there are two questions for you in that post:

you think empking's post looks like a scum reaction? Or you think my post does?

Neither, you both follow valid points.
However, if I had to think of who I think is MOST scummy although both of you are overall non-scum read so far; I'd say you.
[quote="In post 159
Do you equate scumhunting with tunneling?
[/quote]
No, however, the thing you're doing to scumhunt right now is tunneling, no?

[Shadi1337]

evidently, what should I have learned from it?

I'm not new, and even if I was please don't take it into account.

[Shadi1337]

Mac:

Rach (rvs) --> End

Originally voted Rach and was happy with his/her vote as he/she felt Rach did nada

So far the person questions a lot and wants to know why people think what. Despite
questioning much more than answering own opinion read is town.

Yates:

Empking (RVS) (You know why?))

Nearly no posts, no read from them.

Barely seems motivated to even play and for some reason states the game isn't active
while contributing nothing at all.

You could say he's village for not caring of the game, it could also be the impression he wants
us to have by saying only a very few votes. Neutral/null

FuDuzn:

Torcinator (RVS) --> Me (Didn't last long, but I guess his read is still scum) --> Selkies (Finds it weird that no one stated why he's not pro town as he wasn't in the earlier game either and yet getting lynched)

Town read, don't see anything too scummy, seems to be quite open about what he's saying.

Selkies:

Rach (RVS) --> FuDuzn (Questions why he thought I was town) --> Shadi (Based on how he thought and maybe still thinks I was "bussing" Rach
he was at that point willing to make the others hammer me) --> Mac (???) --> Shadi (Concludes I'm not a newb) --> Torc (Coz Torc claimed to be very bad R1 and cannot find a target that early and generally thinks Torc is scummy)

Well this guy likes to vote for sure, he seems to want information out of people rather than staying.
Coz he votes a lot of random votes I'd say scum, but since they all seem to be for OK reason it brings him back to a null read despite clearly being one of the most active players in the game and thumbs up for that..

Empkin:

Rach (RVS) --> Torc (Claims to think Torc is scum who has no idea how to do stuff)

Hard to say, I didn't really get his question of the scum thing on me. I guess he meant a partner would have told what I did wasn't that scummy,
but it's kinda what he did himself O_O. So far town read though

anorway

Selkies (RVS)

??? Nothing

Rach:

Selkies (RVS) --> Shadi (Claims I'm acting newbtown and not protown, tells it's beyond fishy that I say I won't remove my vote if people try to hammer her and that I should always push to lynch scum)

fferyllt

?? Who is it lol (if it's an alt or somewhat pls tell me who xD) I assme Rach as she's our only female player ..

Torcinator

Selkies, seems to take a risk by lynching and claiming it seems a bit scummish to grab the chance to bandwagon.

Either confused townie or dodgy scum, I wouldn't mind a lynch on him too much.

[Shadi1337]

Ah, so it's you. Damn seal!

[Shadi1337]

Giving you the benefit of doubt would give you a free ticket to live a round. Not giving reads and trying to find scum is a bit scummish in itself.

[Shadi1337]

Vice versa we could keep a player whom we have seen do stuff; unlike you so far.

[Shadi1337]

If you'd PAY ATTENTION to my posts, you'd see that I say, "I'm generally bad D1," so don't expect much from me D1.

you could work on improving your day 1 game. starting with this game maybe.

- fery

Agreed, give it a shot and give a read of at least 4 players; make it concise or as long as you want. Just throw in a t least a little effort Come on dude, be a part of the game. This is a friendly push, we don't bite we only lynch

[Shadi1337]

hey Torc seriously dude I am horrid on D 1 usually and I have limited access cause my computer died and I am sharing my bfs computer, and I still have given more than you have.

Umm Shadi nice reads but arent you missing something on some of them like whether you think they are town or scum? I presume you have a scum read on me since you were voting me?

I already stated my vote on you.

[Shadi1337]

You're torn between playing like scum and town?

Again, bad wording on my part. Like Shadi said, I suppose I would be a confused townie. I was very into playing like scum last time.

Dude, give it a go and give a read.

Just give 4-5 people

Name:

**** read because ****

Not any harder

[Shadi1337]

Well >_> yourself wasn't meant to be included. Now see, this wasn't so hard was it.

[Shadi1337]

<> --> []
fyi

[Shadi1337]

Torc, you won't be quick hammered. Your worry should be about finding scum and stop worrying about how you appear.

Well he does have to worry a bit, coz keepin' himself alive is a part of town's wincon if he's town

And Goddammit Shadi, why you make me do this?
VOTE: Shadi

State reason, pls.

[Shadi1337]

Torc, you won't be quick hammered. Your worry should be about finding scum and stop worrying about how you appear.

Well he does have to worry a bit, coz keepin' himself alive is a part of town's wincon if he's town

It is?

How is it not? If he knows he's town, it's ideal to keep himself alive over everyone else who aren't confirmed. Of course setting priorities is right but tellin' him he shouldn't care one bit is like saying. "Get lynched, it's a good idea". Sacrificing one self for such stupidity goes against my beliefs.

[Shadi1337]

oneself*

[Shadi1337]

Can the 2 recent votes on me please explain with WORDS? Ty.

[Shadi1337]

I was actually trying to help him, maybe he had some good reads but just too afraid to come out. >_>

[Shadi1337]

VOTE: Empking

Also, don't do the last vote on him, give him a little time to explain maybe a day. This is just for him to realise he's on thin ice.

[Shadi1337]

You just put Empking at L-1 for OMGUS???

Work is done well under pressure, if somebody grabs the chance to lynch him off right now he'd be worth squeezing information out next.

[Shadi1337]

Activity, lovely. Also a vague but still an explanation from Empking. Also lovely.
UNVOTE:

My name is Shadi so I'm scum.

This is not how you introduce yourself to a new playerset. Now you know.

Why not? I'm breaking the ice with a joke. Am I not allowed to crack a little joke in RVS?

I would like to know why Yates says "you know why" but I assume it's an intern joke

And now you know not to insert yourself into an inside joke - especially during RVS.

Why not?

Whose idea was it to protect noobs in this game in the first place?

Thanks for letting us know you are not a noob. We will be expecting a higher level of play from you from here on out. Now we know that when you make these mistakes in the future they are by design and should be used in determining your level of scumminess.

Fair do's, I couldn't wish for more.

I'm saying that I'm not making an attempt to wagon on you, but if a wagon was to happen I wouldn't jump off from it

And now that we have determined you are not a noob you understand why this post is scummy, right?

Kinda. I was trying to push Rach off from from defending me as I was confused why she was doing it

Unfortunate that you're now going to be lynched for it isn't it

I rather be lynched for it than being given pity.

And since you're not a noob you understand why this would be a terrible post if you were actually Town, right?

No.

you guys are too busy tunneling me instead of lurkers.

And since you aren't a noob you understand why trying to kill your wagon by directing people towards lurkers is scummy as hell, right?

The less information you have from someone the more of a target they are, the more you know someone the closer to the truth you can get. Therefore I cannot help but target lurkers. It's true that scum could be the overly active ones but also the least active ones to not screw up and get lynched. It's important for a townie to look town but it's more important for a wolf to look town. As a villager has to do more e.g scumhunt.

Also, don't do the last vote on him, give him a little time to explain maybe a day. This is just for him to realise he's on thin ice.

And since you're not a noob you understand why putting someone you don't want lynched at L-1 is scummy as hell as well, right?

No, I believe I explained that pretty well. People work much better under pressure. I'm guilty as charged if that's scummy, coz look; Empking spoke!!! If my "scum buddy" would react to the L-1 I was forced to go on him because of my disclaimer.

The good news here is if Shadi flips scum, Empking is likely Town.

Well, not sure if I should comment on this one. Just prepare for disappointment

At this point I'm deciding between Selkies and Shadi. I'll wait for their responses to this post before making my final determination.

Fair enough. I'm likin' your read post, btw. Much more effort than what you have previously done in this game.

[Shadi1337]

No.

You don't understand why if you were Town your statement that you'd rather be lynched than saved for being a noob is anti-Town? Fine. I'll explain. Your first job, as Town, is to survive [over-generalization but true from the 500 foot perspective]. Incidentally, this is why I don't believe in the "survivalistic" tell. By surviving, you are keeping the numbers in Town's favor. So if you are Town, it shouldn't matter why someone thinks you are Town as long as they are reading you as Town.

People have different opportunities and I believe they are all valid, my friend.

As a townie you are obliged to stay alive because unlike everyone else you're the only one who's confirmed town and therefore already doing your job by preventin' parity. However, if there are no leads then what are you supposed to do? Indeed, scumhunt. Tunnel, throw a barrage of attacks onto players; preferably people who have slipped or haven't talked a lot. So you can get to the roots of why that's the case

As scum you are also obliged to stay alive to prevent villagers from staying alive and reaching parity. However, a scum's main job would obviously be to be his pro town self IN ORDER TO STAY ALIVE.

So, we agree that no matter what you are, your wincon is to stay alive? So how is it more scummy to not care about dying as scum than villager? Sorry, I believe this logic is flawed.

The less information you have from someone the more of a target they are, the more you know someone the closer to the truth you can get.

The less information you have from someone, the less information you have after their flip. You simply don't lynch lurkers on day 1. I'm not going to get into all the numerous reasons a Townie will be less active on day 1 but believe me when I say there are far more reasons for a Townie to be less active on Day 1 than a scum. This is especially true in a game where there is no strong leadership and no polarizing activity on the table yet.

Point taken, the more information you have on a target the more you get out of the flip but that doesn't erase my past arguments. Instead of keepin' the lurkers lurking and giving them the chance to hit off cheaply why not get rid of them early on in the game? Or do you suggest that only happens after R2 if you're still clueless there?

People work much better under pressure

Pressure is L-2 with a threat to put someone at L-1. Putting someone at L-1 and then stating "but don't hammer" is the same as saying "go ahead and hammer" because you created that opportunity. This looks to me like scum setting up a mislynch to L-1 and hoping a Townie will just jump on and hammer either by accident or through flawed logic. Sets up the next day nicely as you grill the hammer about why THEY quick lynched. If you put someone at L-1 you better be equally prepared to be the hammer. Your "excuse" will not protect you. Frankly, if the lynch had gone through and he flipped Town I would have focused on you more than the hammer.

That's fair enough, I guess we differ in priorities then. I would have made a huge walls of attacks on the user who did it. It was a trap, and I made it deadly obvious that it'd be stupid to hammer. I'm sorry I don't see the pressuring level of L-2 the same as L-1 it's much more intense.

Well, not sure if I should comment on this one. Just prepare for disappointment

Are you saying I have it wrong and Empking is your buddy? I WOULD be disappointed.

No, you'd be disappointed in the result of lynching me. Saying that is obvious and needless to say hence the "I'm not sure if I should comment".

I'm likin' your read post, btw

That's because it was a good post. Buddying me does not buy you Town points. Ditto for this post:

It's good to see you posting, yates.

... I was just giving you a thumbs up for actually being active unlike before. An active game is much funnier and you get a lot more reads. It's what you're providin'; I'm not trying to buddy you.

I'm going to vote for one of you. Tell me why it shouldn't be you OR why it should be the other guy. It looks like FuDuz will be sheeping me so consider my vote like a double vote. Go.

I don't think I'm a much worse or better candidate than Seal, he's doing pretty well. I'm not sure what to say here really, sorry. At least not any more than what other people have already stated about him, includin' yourself.

[Shadi1337]

@ Post 309

Opportunities --> priorities.

[Shadi1337]

My thoughts for today before I disappear for a couple hours:

I really need to get into the mindset of "innocent until proven guilty", I'm playing quite the opposite. It's rough. I feel like I'm reading way too far into posts.

My vote on Torcinator still stands. I don't like the cut of his jib.

As for Empking, I don't feel like there's enough to go on. 7 posts. And he didn't seem to care much that he was voted to L-1. Reads townie.

I don't like Shadi's bandwagon vote on Empking.

@ Post 309

Opportunities --> priorities.

I don't want to misrepresent this post so hopefully you can come back and explain it. Are you trying to say "Opportunities and then priorities"? If so, was your vote on Empking opportunistic?
That's what I got from it so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Nah I meant swap the words, I typed opportunities instead of priorities.

[Shadi1337]

I'm getting even more certain of Shadi being scum.

Because of?

What about other players Empking?

I'm thinking Mac for also scum. It's just a feeling.

Where do these feelings origin from?

I'd like you to actually explain why you think this and that.

[Shadi1337]

Aw, Sel was active. Thanks for the announcement though.

[Shadi1337]

It feels like the game is trying to keep you alive.

Emm, it would make more sense if 1 or maybe 2 people specifically tried to keep me alive. But if the game does then that most likely means town read O_O

me brain.

Yes, and what is it that your brain tells you that makes Mac scummish?

[Shadi1337]

Looking forward to your reads, Doc.

[Shadi1337]

Don't tell me you drank again Aafter !!

[Shadi1337]

*Post to not get a PM*

[Shadi1337]

I'm all caught up.

Yates, get back over here. Selkies is scum I guarantee it. Also please don't replace out, part of the reason I joined was cause I saw your name. ^^

Shadi/Torcinator are town though. They don't care about how their posts come off and its obvious as hell. The real-life updates from Torc are hilariously town. Shadi getting pissy about being called a noob is too. Scum way more often than not will fall back on the newb card. Shadi is doing the opposite, lol. Also Selkies is aggressively trying to ML that slot.

Fu feels town and I doubt that Fu and Yates are scum since they seem to share scum selkies reads by and large.

Town-Motivated Posters

Torcinator
Shadi
FuDuzn

Probable Town

Yates
Aafter
Empking

Doofenshmirtz Evil, Incoporaaaateeeed

Selkies

PoE Scum?

RachMarie

@RM: Could you summarize your reads for me?

Basically I'm going to be incredibly disappointed in all of you if someone other than selkies is lynched today. Sucks for Doc Holiday, but its a scum slot. A lot of my opinions are based on this slot being scum and I really am not ok with lynching anyone else until I see this mafia flip.

Your reason on some of your reads? Rach and Sel (you said that Sel is trying to ML that slot, ML means?) and what about Rach did I miss a post?

I know I'm constantly digging my own grave by saying this but I wouldn't act different to that whether I'm scum or town. I don't intend to use my meta as an advantage to trick or use players with or against me. It's like allowing private messages between players; why let all matters out of this thread count as matters?

Also it's nice with a reads post

You seem SO sure though AP what are you gonna do iffen on the off chance he flps town? Not saying he will just saying IF?

Cause you may be missing the bigger picture because of your tunneling

Yes, I feel like questioning your confidence as well. It would be hard to keep up if 1-2 of them flip villager.

[Shadi1337]

Also since you have 2 scum suspects that you are at least /somewhat/ sure of. Could you maybe point out where these 2 have a relation in the game and why you believe it's possible for them two to be together in a team? Or is the case simply that you feel like they are just both acting scummy but not together? It seems like you are mostly up for a Sel lynch; is this true?

[Shadi1337]

^ Post directed @ AP (in case that would confuse anyone)

[Shadi1337]

@Mod I am checking the thread daily but not sure what to type at this moment. There haven't been more than 18 posts from approx 3 players.

Last thing I felt needed to have a response on or react to was already answered in post 389.. but yeah

[Shadi1337]

@Empking
If he's in complete agreement is that a problem? If Yates' words are scummy then you have your own 2 scum suspects; if they are town reads then proceed and there's no problem in "sheeping".

[Shadi1337]

Ah ok, my bad.

[Shadi1337]

FuDzn: Is your reasoning really 'sheep Yates'.

Yates made a comment that I would sheep his vote since we seemed to share the same scum reads. So no it is not my reasoning to vote Doc, just more of a lighthearted reference.

It seemed like that to me as well a little witty comment.

[Shadi1337]

Shadi, why are you posting throwaway posts?

Dodging the host xD. I consider myself active and checking the thread often but apparently if I don't run my mouth with something random once per (second) day that's not the case. I know quality over quantity but there isn't much to read right now as I personally see it.

[Shadi1337]

@Mod: Deadline in two days? can we get an extension so replacements can catch up?

I wouldn't mind

[Shadi1337]

Wops, my bad. Ty

[Shadi1337]

You don't need to ask me for reads, like I'm some half-ass village idiot

when I have an opinion, you can bet your vagina I'll tell you exactly what it is

I want to know your reads as well, if you don't start saying your opinion about players soon enough you are seen as a lurker. Lurking helps scum, when lynched/killed we get less info from flips so gogo when ya can.

[Shadi1337]

Hey, Kuribo. Let's calm it down a bit. I meant in general, I know you've been here for 9 hours.

What's with the attitude, anyway? It's a game so stop being an internet warrior.

I think you missed "soon enough" and "when ya can". It was general advice, if you keep dodging reads you will be a suspect. Also I gave my reads earlier on, ISO me or something.

[Shadi1337]

Or well, dno if exactly 9 hours but at least not for long.

[Shadi1337]

hey shadi, you cheeky little newb, since you want my reads, what about yours? I assume you've actually read the game? So you should have no problem posting yours, right?


TIT FOR TAT, QUID PRO QUO CLARICE

Kuribo is my new favorite player.

He had me at hello.

Also, in case you were wondering K-Bo, 469 is a big reason why I don't like Shadi for town.

What within the post? Saying lurkers are bad for town? I want reads so we can get as much information as possible.

[Shadi1337]

@ The bussing situation

I was being pretty damn blatant about it.

I told you I was being tired of being defended by silly reasons as being a noob, and other random reasons like RM so I just wanted people to stop doing that..

Also why is everything you say aggressive? It doesn't make you look any smarter, I'd even say it does contra.

Why I would care if people jump on my vote? Dude excuse me, are you trying to make my head explode? I need to see who jumps on a wagon first of all, basics? Second I just stated that I WOULDN'T care if they voted on her, as in I wouldn't remove my vote. Trying to disprove alliance, granted it was a fishy move. Should I try to argue that it isn't fishy when it is? That would be even fishier..

I have a read on Kuribo, the read is that he's mentally disabled.

[Shadi1337]

well, of course that's what you're saying, you cant very well call me scum because you'd be afraid some newbie would yell "OMGUS HE'S OMGUSING" and you can't vote me because hammering me would be tantamount to a scum claim



i'm aggressive because on some level i don't like playing mafia

Lynching you is simply not in my interest for any other reason than you being annoyed, unfortunately in this case that would be against wincon.

Then don't play?? lol

Trying to disprove alliance, granted it was a fishy move.

WHY WOULD YOU BOTHER TRYING TO DISPROVE AN ALLIANCE

WHY RACH SPECIFICALLY?

WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING WORRIED THAT PEOPLE WILL THINK YOU'RE BUDDIES?

I was "scared" because I didn't want to be seeing having a buddy, also it's a different story when only one busses or both do it.

Also if you are gonna keep being aggressive I will give a disclaimer, I won't answer you. I'm here to play a detective game with hopefully competent players.

What if I were to accuse you of being buddies with Empking?

I think I nearly got him fully lynched at some point, but other than that I really don't have many arguments again. I'd have to read a few pages back.

[Shadi1337]

I have a read on Kuribo, the read is that he's mentally disabled.

even now he tries to discredit me (suprise, fucker, it won't work because there are people in this game that actually know i know what i'm doing)

"mentally disabled," and yet I've roped more scum than you could count. I've lynched some of the best fucking scum players on this site. You don't stand a chance, little man.

Either you are tunneling to get information or you are indeed what I stated you to be.

[Shadi1337]

annoyed --> annoying

[Shadi1337]

Oh well I guess my flip will at least give you some information, I think I'll give up due to high stupidity in this game lol.

[Shadi1337]

No, go ahead. I want to cement my perception of your deep, deep stupidity.

Shadi

[Shadi1337]

No, go ahead. I want to cement my perception of your deep, deep stupidity.

Shadi

Clicked the wrong button..

VOTE: Shadi

[Shadi1337]

The moment the flip turns villager... oh the joy.

[Shadi1337]

I EAT SCUM FUCKS LIKE YOU FOR BREAKFAST AND SHIT OUT THEIR LYNCHES

I have a read on Kuribo, the read is that he's mentally disabled.

If youre town and just hammered yourself, youre gonna be blacklisted universally for playing against your win conditiin, so you better fucking be scum or ill make it my mission to follow you around the site and powerfuck your kynch through for all eternity

isnt mafia fun?

It's against everyone's wincon to be lynched, mafia trying to each parity and town staying alive to prevent parity. Flawed logic, flawed logic everywhere.

Self-hammering is only a valid thing for scum to do in the rare situation where town already has minimal information, it's not the case here. It also prevents scum from trying to deceive players more; so it's equally bad for each team. If you wanna be pathetic and follow me around for this be my guest.

Good luck villagers.

[Shadi1337]

When Bac was killed I finally had a town read on Kuribo, but I'm still quite ticked at what happened but I guess the same goes for what I did so I'm here to apologise. I kinda had a scum read on RM but that was clearly wrong.
GG guys.

[Shadi1337]

I didn't even notice Cabd posted here xD

Cabd you played that game very well, if you truly did anticipate that I'd flame you for being scum R2 then killing me was an absolutely brilliant move.
I did wonder why you wanted to watch a "newbie" play, not that I wanna complain. Just.. confused.

Also nice RM, a very good PC? Maybe we should play another game.

[Shadi1337]

Another game I meant another mafia game on this site... I read that again and was like "wut.."

[Shadi1337]

AP, would you have defended me for being town if you weren't scum? I felt a bit weird about that defence.