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Post Post #160 (isolation #0) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:58 pm

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Let's see what I can do.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:35 pm

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Maki and Guyett and DrPepper are all the scummiest.

I am thinking that Shadi is town because of a few times he turned away from chances to egg on a lynch, esp with maki in 34
the transparency of 34 doesn't suggest factional connection

Guyett is terrible, even when he makes wallposts and earns my vote.

DrPepper is just null-leaning scum for his probably blind endorsement of guyett's case but I'm not too attached to this read
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Post Post #162 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:40 pm

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In post 33, Guyett wrote:Putting someone at l-1 on the first page is suspicious
VOTE: Dr.pepper
mehful bandwagon without any individual thought
pretty suspect
In post 35, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:VOTE: makiavel

I'm not sure what it is but I don't like post #27.
In post 36, Guyett wrote:It does look a bit odd doesn't it... I Think mak has some explaining to do
lol this exchange
post 36 is incredibly obvious parroting of siveure
In post 87, Guyett wrote:
Spoiler: lots of quotes and stuff
In post 28, SalmonellaDreams wrote:DrPepper, that L-1 vote was awful, especially on page one.
The whole maki shadi thing is interesting, but can we really find associations this early?
VOTE: DrPepper
You vote for someone who puts another person at L-1... I don't have much of a problem yet...
however your claim that we can't find any associations yet is lazy at best and anti town at worst.
In post 30, SalmonellaDreams wrote:
In post 28, SalmonellaDreams wrote:but can we really find associations this early?
Why bring it back up? why not actively try to find scum?
In post 52, SalmonellaDreams wrote:
In post 32, Shadi1337 wrote:Kudos to dr.pepper for trying, even if it's early. His analysis is fair.

Salmo, do you have any other leads you'd like to follow? (You were on Maki's rvs omgus vote before?)
Are you trying to subtly push me onto Maki right here?

The relationship between Maki and Shadi is interesting. It's still to early to learn anything of it, but we'll definitely have to go back to look at it.

Anyways, VOTE: Shadi

I liked the pressure that was on him, and he seemed like he was trying to subtly get me to vote for Maki.
Shadi's play here does seem slightly odd but he does make a good point that you were on to Maki about that RVS OMGUS vote... why not keep pressuring that vote? to paraphrase youreslf;
"how come you didn't push harder on siv? He ignored your question.
What have you noticed about his play?"


In post 53, greygnarl wrote:
vote: shadi


Have fun at L-1, I don't like your play thus far.
In post 54, SalmonellaDreams wrote:greygnarl, how come you didn't push harder on siv? He ignored your question.
What have you noticed about his play? That was a very open ended statement and it seems like you're just hopping on the bandwagon.

VOTE: greygnarl
Again you vote for someone putting another person at L-1, not too concerning yet but part of your reason for voting for Grey kind of contradicts wwith your reasons for going after Shadi...
In post 70, SalmonellaDreams wrote:I'd be uncommitted to pressuring someone if I just let it go when they didn't answer.
Here's the thing: They did answer.
Since Shadi beat around the bush for part of my question, I'll ask again, with additional L-1 pressure.
VOTE: Shadi

And now you vote for Shadi and put him at L-1 (apparently)... does that mean you will now vote for yourself?
you admit to doing it to pressure Shadi but that is exactly why DrP and Grey put people at L-1... contradictions and circular reasoning galore!!!


In post 71, SalmonellaDreams wrote:Speaking of that, Maki, don't hammer without a claim, and don't ask for a claim for no reason.
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UNVOTE:
VOTE: salmon
This makes absolutely no good points. All fluff.


My only reservation about guyett is that he may simply be bad rather than scum. But I think he's both.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:29 pm

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Just Vote Guyett
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Post Post #169 (isolation #4) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:05 pm

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and..?
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Post Post #173 (isolation #5) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:29 pm

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So...I should not point out that your case is fluff because no one else has done so yet?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #6) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:53 am

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In post 176, Guyett wrote:No I'm asking why you drag up a post that is a few days old and label it fluff when no one else has labeled it as fluff since then? Sounds like a desperate attempt to make a case for me getting inched. What do you make of Dr.peppers case against salmon?
Well as a guy who has just replaced in I have to comment on every notable post in the thread.

I'm beginning to think you really are just bad. :/
In post 178, Guyett wrote:I assume you mean fifty not thirty. You haven't done anything with him but its the way he has come out attacking me with a flimsy argument against my case on you that indicates he wants me inched to get pressure off you.. That is the protecting i am talking about
You have failed to explain why my case on you is bad.
In post 180, Guyett wrote:He claimed my post was fluff... Like the entire post was dismissed as fluff out of hand.
Well I assume people are able to look at the post and see for themselves. I see you're ignoring the rest of the case. But if you want me to be detailed, there's no problem.
In post 186, Guyett wrote:So does my case make more sense now?
(no)
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Post Post #193 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:03 am

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In post 162, Fifty Ways wrote:
In post 33, Guyett wrote:Putting someone at l-1 on the first page is suspicious
VOTE: Dr.pepper
mehful bandwagon without any individual thought
pretty suspect
In post 35, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:VOTE: makiavel

I'm not sure what it is but I don't like post #27.
In post 36, Guyett wrote:It does look a bit odd doesn't it... I Think mak has some explaining to do
lol this exchange
post 36 is incredibly obvious parroting of siveure
In post 87, Guyett wrote:
Spoiler: lots of quotes and stuff
In post 28, SalmonellaDreams wrote:DrPepper, that L-1 vote was awful, especially on page one.
The whole maki shadi thing is interesting, but can we really find associations this early?
VOTE: DrPepper
You vote for someone who puts another person at L-1... I don't have much of a problem yet...
however your claim that we can't find any associations yet is lazy at best and anti town at worst.
In post 30, SalmonellaDreams wrote:
In post 28, SalmonellaDreams wrote:but can we really find associations this early?
Why bring it back up? why not actively try to find scum?
In post 52, SalmonellaDreams wrote:
In post 32, Shadi1337 wrote:Kudos to dr.pepper for trying, even if it's early. His analysis is fair.

Salmo, do you have any other leads you'd like to follow? (You were on Maki's rvs omgus vote before?)
Are you trying to subtly push me onto Maki right here?

The relationship between Maki and Shadi is interesting. It's still to early to learn anything of it, but we'll definitely have to go back to look at it.

Anyways, VOTE: Shadi

I liked the pressure that was on him, and he seemed like he was trying to subtly get me to vote for Maki.
Shadi's play here does seem slightly odd but he does make a good point that you were on to Maki about that RVS OMGUS vote... why not keep pressuring that vote? to paraphrase youreslf;
"how come you didn't push harder on siv? He ignored your question.
What have you noticed about his play?"


In post 53, greygnarl wrote:
vote: shadi


Have fun at L-1, I don't like your play thus far.
In post 54, SalmonellaDreams wrote:greygnarl, how come you didn't push harder on siv? He ignored your question.
What have you noticed about his play? That was a very open ended statement and it seems like you're just hopping on the bandwagon.

VOTE: greygnarl
Again you vote for someone putting another person at L-1, not too concerning yet but part of your reason for voting for Grey kind of contradicts wwith your reasons for going after Shadi...
In post 70, SalmonellaDreams wrote:I'd be uncommitted to pressuring someone if I just let it go when they didn't answer.
Here's the thing: They did answer.
Since Shadi beat around the bush for part of my question, I'll ask again, with additional L-1 pressure.
VOTE: Shadi

And now you vote for Shadi and put him at L-1 (apparently)... does that mean you will now vote for yourself?
you admit to doing it to pressure Shadi but that is exactly why DrP and Grey put people at L-1... contradictions and circular reasoning galore!!!


In post 71, SalmonellaDreams wrote:Speaking of that, Maki, don't hammer without a claim, and don't ask for a claim for no reason.
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UNVOTE:
VOTE: salmon
This makes absolutely no good points. All fluff.


My only reservation about guyett is that he may simply be bad rather than scum. But I think he's both.
vote guyett
So guyett's post is above. I'm quoting the whole case because people are ignoring the whole case.

First statement is a rehash of what's already been said and no way relates to whether salmon is scum or not.
Second statement is useless rumination of first.
Rehash of shadi's point. Nothing new.
The last statement is just silly.

Isolated, this could be seen as merely a terrible and derivative case. But in light of guyett's posts, it's part of a pattern of fairly substanceless and derivative play.

His interaction with siveure in 36 is incredibly blatant parroting. 31 is the exact same thing.
The most original thing guyett's said the entire game is that I and salmon are scumbuddies, but that was pure OMGUS.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:54 am

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notes on maki
In post 27, Makiavel wrote:UNVOTE:

Everyone should calm their tits, no I am not bussing, yes, I was linked to the game & told to go confirm coz I didn't check my PMs to which I was told he voted me (by himself). I proceeded to do an OMGUS for the heck of it.
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In post 40, Makiavel wrote:
In post 36, Guyett wrote:It does look a bit odd doesn't it... I Think mak has some explaining to do
I explained higher why I voted him. It's not my problem if your reading skills aren't that good. Anyway, let me tell you again :

1. I get poked to confirm as game is about to start & we got pmed
2. I see my PM, then I get told later on by Shadi that he voted me for the lulz (on another site, it's not that uncommon that I get voted out R1, so think of it as a "joke")
3. I proceed to OMGUS'ing him just for the fun
4. I notice 2 (or was it 3 ? I don't know) people vote him and put him on L-1 when there is NO reason WHATSOEVER to do it
5. I retract, proceed to explaining why I voted him
6. You don't understand, Someone elses votes me
7. & We're here again! ya-hoo


Full circle here we go.
way overexplanation
In post 41, Makiavel wrote:
In post 38, Shadi1337 wrote:hey guys, I am going to a trip in Austria from the 8th to the 12th. So v/la or whatever it's called. Will probably post there too but really don't expect me to really follow those few days.
Use this : http://forum.mafiascum.net/ucp.php?i=vla&mode=settings


Note : I'm a bit inactive, it's because I'm doing 10 things in one those days, I'll however check atleast once or twice a day if I don't forget! The host can add me on skype @ kolzerreda in case I really forget for awhile, but I doubt I will. Will be checking this thread later today depending on whether I fall asleep or not (didn't sleep at all tonight & it's 7:44AM)
wordy/excited here, too
but not game related content
so maybe an playstyle thing

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Post Post #196 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:55 am

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In post 194, DoctorPepper wrote:Blind endorsement of guyett's case? I have a scum read on Sal. That makes no sense. Btw, you said Maki is scum, without saying why exactly. Now I actually am curious. What do you think of my case on Sal. I think he could scum.

Btw, Maki is really anti town. He says he posts because he doesnt want to be replaced, yet he posts no actual content. Like, dafuck man.

Hi notscience, you stalker. Tell me why it was bad to state those things that potentially help us find scum?
My read on Sal is null and you case doesn't really affect it.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:55 am

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because my case
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Post Post #201 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:55 am

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Sure, whatever. What about what you said actually builds on dr pepper's case?
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Post Post #204 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:27 am

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In post 202, Makiavel wrote:
In post 195, Fifty Ways wrote:notes on maki

Spoiler:
In post 27, Makiavel wrote:UNVOTE:

Everyone should calm their tits, no I am not bussing, yes, I was linked to the game & told to go confirm coz I didn't check my PMs to which I was told he voted me (by himself). I proceeded to do an OMGUS for the heck of it.
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In post 40, Makiavel wrote:
In post 36, Guyett wrote:It does look a bit odd doesn't it... I Think mak has some explaining to do
I explained higher why I voted him. It's not my problem if your reading skills aren't that good. Anyway, let me tell you again :

1. I get poked to confirm as game is about to start & we got pmed
2. I see my PM, then I get told later on by Shadi that he voted me for the lulz (on another site, it's not that uncommon that I get voted out R1, so think of it as a "joke")
3. I proceed to OMGUS'ing him just for the fun
4. I notice 2 (or was it 3 ? I don't know) people vote him and put him on L-1 when there is NO reason WHATSOEVER to do it
5. I retract, proceed to explaining why I voted him
6. You don't understand, Someone elses votes me
7. & We're here again! ya-hoo


Full circle here we go.
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In post 41, Makiavel wrote:
In post 38, Shadi1337 wrote:hey guys, I am going to a trip in Austria from the 8th to the 12th. So v/la or whatever it's called. Will probably post there too but really don't expect me to really follow those few days.
Use this : http://forum.mafiascum.net/ucp.php?i=vla&mode=settings


Note : I'm a bit inactive, it's because I'm doing 10 things in one those days, I'll however check atleast once or twice a day if I don't forget! The host can add me on skype @ kolzerreda in case I really forget for awhile, but I doubt I will. Will be checking this thread later today depending on whether I fall asleep or not (didn't sleep at all tonight & it's 7:44AM)


wordy/excited here, too
but not game related content
so maybe an playstyle thing

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Just because guyett agreed with you doesn't mean it's okay to endorse a scummy wallpost.
First point : People put Shadi on L-1 and then immediately thought we were bussing because I was told to read the topic & saw his post & OMGUS'd. So I explained it.
Second point : People didn't understand easily what I meant apparently, there are some times where it seemed the users lost their brain
Third point : I'm inactive for now, it's true, I focus on ton of things, so I just notified people, note that I did the same on another game @ http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=29887 where I am not posting game content currently. (well aside from my vote on a retard, but let's not mention that)
I think I may have simply had a problem with your style of posting, maki.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #13) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:29 pm

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guyott's dodging an incredible number of questions
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Post Post #215 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:09 pm

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In post 201, Fifty Ways wrote:Sure, whatever. What about what you said actually builds on dr pepper's case?
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Post Post #221 (isolation #15) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:42 am

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In post 216, SalmonellaDreams wrote:
In post 210, Fifty Ways wrote:guyott's dodging an incredible number of questions
In post 215, Fifty Ways wrote:
In post 201, Fifty Ways wrote:Sure, whatever. What about what you said actually builds on dr pepper's case?
Really? You stretched one missed question into "an incredible number of questions?"
VOTE: Fifty Ways
He dodged your question, too. In the space of 2 pages. Yeah, incredible.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:43 am

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So what you added to what Dr P said...
Was something that Shadi said.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:04 am

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unvote


probjust bad

Does mafia have daychat?
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Post Post #233 (isolation #18) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:32 am

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This game's all the more likely to have scum posing as VIs then...
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Post Post #235 (isolation #19) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:24 am

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Guys, the game is stalling. If you want to help the game stop stalling, just say something. If you're voting for someone, advocate that guy's lynch. If you're not, hurry up. If you disagree with someone's ideas speak up. Say something. It'll help a lot.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #20) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:28 am

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Yeah, ok.

Never attempted to push his guyett vote much at all.
vote siv
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Post Post #247 (isolation #21) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:48 pm

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ok
are you going to talk more about the guy who is probably scum now
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Post Post #255 (isolation #22) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:29 am

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In post 248, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Who?

Thinking a slight bit more I don't want to compromise lynch on maki b/c gut.
guyett? the guy you are voting for who you said is probably scum?
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Post Post #265 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:15 am

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In post 258, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Well, I don't have an amazing scumread on guyett, but what I do have is still a strong lynch. If you'd care to present a better person to lynch besides guyett, sure, I'll vote them, but guyett seems the best lynch atm.

Eh, given how useless maki is we could lynch him... wait he'll have a vengekill if he's town. Yeah let's not do that.

Hmm, not 100% sure on guyett either.
could you at least elaborate on the basis on your guyett read at the time you voted him and/or the time you said he was probably scum
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Post Post #266 (isolation #24) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:16 am

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In post 195, Fifty Ways wrote:notes on maki
In post 27, Makiavel wrote:UNVOTE:

Everyone should calm their tits, no I am not bussing, yes, I was linked to the game & told to go confirm coz I didn't check my PMs to which I was told he voted me (by himself). I proceeded to do an OMGUS for the heck of it.
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In post 40, Makiavel wrote:
In post 36, Guyett wrote:It does look a bit odd doesn't it... I Think mak has some explaining to do
I explained higher why I voted him. It's not my problem if your reading skills aren't that good. Anyway, let me tell you again :

1. I get poked to confirm as game is about to start & we got pmed
2. I see my PM, then I get told later on by Shadi that he voted me for the lulz (on another site, it's not that uncommon that I get voted out R1, so think of it as a "joke")
3. I proceed to OMGUS'ing him just for the fun
4. I notice 2 (or was it 3 ? I don't know) people vote him and put him on L-1 when there is NO reason WHATSOEVER to do it
5. I retract, proceed to explaining why I voted him
6. You don't understand, Someone elses votes me
7. & We're here again! ya-hoo


Full circle here we go.
way overexplanation
In post 41, Makiavel wrote:
In post 38, Shadi1337 wrote:hey guys, I am going to a trip in Austria from the 8th to the 12th. So v/la or whatever it's called. Will probably post there too but really don't expect me to really follow those few days.
Use this : http://forum.mafiascum.net/ucp.php?i=vla&mode=settings


Note : I'm a bit inactive, it's because I'm doing 10 things in one those days, I'll however check atleast once or twice a day if I don't forget! The host can add me on skype @ kolzerreda in case I really forget for awhile, but I doubt I will. Will be checking this thread later today depending on whether I fall asleep or not (didn't sleep at all tonight & it's 7:44AM)
wordy/excited here, too
but not game related content
so maybe an playstyle thing

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The scummiest thing about maki is her unnatural posting style.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:08 pm

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i am disappoint in all of u
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Post Post #271 (isolation #26) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:00 pm

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NS can go on the scumlist, too.

Let's just lynch one of Maka, Guyott, NS.

And all agree to force "who im gonna kill" claims before hammers.
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Post Post #281 (isolation #27) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:12 pm

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NS is just using mastin's suggested strategy for dismissing criticism.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #28) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:14 am

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In post 195, Fifty Ways wrote:notes on maki
In post 27, Makiavel wrote:UNVOTE:

Everyone should calm their tits, no I am not bussing, yes, I was linked to the game & told to go confirm coz I didn't check my PMs to which I was told he voted me (by himself). I proceeded to do an OMGUS for the heck of it.
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In post 40, Makiavel wrote:
In post 36, Guyett wrote:It does look a bit odd doesn't it... I Think mak has some explaining to do
I explained higher why I voted him. It's not my problem if your reading skills aren't that good. Anyway, let me tell you again :

1. I get poked to confirm as game is about to start & we got pmed
2. I see my PM, then I get told later on by Shadi that he voted me for the lulz (on another site, it's not that uncommon that I get voted out R1, so think of it as a "joke")
3. I proceed to OMGUS'ing him just for the fun
4. I notice 2 (or was it 3 ? I don't know) people vote him and put him on L-1 when there is NO reason WHATSOEVER to do it
5. I retract, proceed to explaining why I voted him
6. You don't understand, Someone elses votes me
7. & We're here again! ya-hoo


Full circle here we go.
way overexplanation
In post 41, Makiavel wrote:
In post 38, Shadi1337 wrote:hey guys, I am going to a trip in Austria from the 8th to the 12th. So v/la or whatever it's called. Will probably post there too but really don't expect me to really follow those few days.
Use this : http://forum.mafiascum.net/ucp.php?i=vla&mode=settings


Note : I'm a bit inactive, it's because I'm doing 10 things in one those days, I'll however check atleast once or twice a day if I don't forget! The host can add me on skype @ kolzerreda in case I really forget for awhile, but I doubt I will. Will be checking this thread later today depending on whether I fall asleep or not (didn't sleep at all tonight & it's 7:44AM)
wordy/excited here, too
but not game related content
so maybe an playstyle thing

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Just because guyett agreed with you doesn't mean it's okay to endorse a scummy wallpost.
please allow me to quote the post ive quoted two times already after making it shadi
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Post Post #295 (isolation #29) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:19 am

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In post 289, DoctorPepper wrote:NS hasnt been contributing and has been his usual troll ns. So why does it make him scum Fifty, he plays like this all the time.
Scumtrolling vs Towntrolling
The difference is the gut read I have
You've pretty much expressed suspicion of everyone this game.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

pedit: "chainsaw" is soo never a legit accusation but I do think the recurring template of a lot of questioning without any bite is starting to seem artificial
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Post Post #305 (isolation #30) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:11 am

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I have a different interpretation, but I'll let maka explain herself before commenting.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #31) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:41 pm

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someday you'll understand

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Post Post #318 (isolation #32) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:42 am

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Guys, maka townslipped earlier when he selfvoted. It was a clear show of 'newb thinks getting a vengeshot is worth being lynched'. There is no other valid interpretation and this lynch is terrible.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:44 am

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Do you really wanna trust maka with a vengeshot? Do ya?
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Post Post #343 (isolation #34) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:09 am

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I'm pretty mad at NS for not moving his vote to someone who was not basically-surely-town. I wonder if he's buds with guyott.

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Post Post #344 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:11 am

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(Also, congrats, maki. That was a great finish.)
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Post Post #351 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:38 am

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In post 347, notscience wrote:
In post 343, Fifty Ways wrote:I'm pretty mad at NS for not moving his vote to someone who was not basically-surely-town. I wonder if he's buds with guyott.

vote guyott
Lmfao, look at who I voted and what they flipped.
sigh

NS, you let an obviously innocent townie get killed, you asshole. It's only Maka's insight, not yours, that gives us anything to work with today. Nothing you've done in this game so far has been meritorious. All you've done is sit on a gutread (that you somehow could only justify after-the-fact) and allow an obvious mislynch.

And you are playing differently this game because you are scummm.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:54 pm

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NS's selfvote is meaningless posturing. Guyott must die today.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:38 am

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drp also blindly endorsed guyott's bad case
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Post Post #412 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:41 am

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a case which was pretty likely a botched attempt to collaborate up a mislynch, given how derivative it was

Owait guyott claimed blue team scum a page ago.
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Post Post #415 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:45 am

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My browser doesn't have the computing capacity I need to properly deal with this thread's bullshit.
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Post Post #446 (isolation #41) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:53 pm

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The shadi wagon is shady, guys.
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Post Post #452 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:43 pm

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I don't see why guyett's lynch needs to wait for anyone to develop their reads on people who are not guyett. Don't you think you'll be in a better position to do that tomorrow?
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Post Post #460 (isolation #43) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:48 am

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In post 454, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:If somehow guyett is town, and he venges town, we're in lylo, needing to lynch 3 scum in a specific order. I'd like to have reads on everyone beforehand in case that happens.
my question was: what difference will it make?
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Post Post #461 (isolation #44) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:01 am

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I don't think shadi is scum.

scumshadi would've lynched maki.
scumshadi would be flailing right now.

Everything bad about his play can be explained as a combo of newbiness and apathy.

Salmon looks pretty scummy right now, though.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #45) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:10 am

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oh nvm salmon's cool and shadi's eh
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Post Post #492 (isolation #46) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:30 am

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ns
Flailing is in absolutely no way correlated with any alliance whatsoever.

Guyett is scum using the possibility of a vengekill to inspire doubt.

If his previous post egging on his own lynch was sincere,
he would have hammered himself
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Post Post #494 (isolation #47) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:19 pm

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God I love life. Everything is so quirky. Everything is so delightful.
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Post Post #508 (isolation #48) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:50 am

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YESSSS

A study was done awhile ago that tested whether flailing = scummy (or townie) and found no relationship.

I'm going to need a moment to regroup I've been tunnelling for the last two Days.
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Post Post #509 (isolation #49) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:56 am

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I have a gut feeling that ns is guyett's bud and guyett was angry in the latter pages because ns was bussing him.
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Post Post #510 (isolation #50) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:57 am

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That would explain the whole "yes guyett is scum, but let's spend the day looking for some other scum to lynch"
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Post Post #511 (isolation #51) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:19 am

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Oh yes the weird way he avoided and tried to shift the town from the guyett question is eery.

And then there's the enabling the maki lynch
because he was butthurt about DP
so that guyett would survive D1.

Way too much circumstance.
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Post Post #515 (isolation #52) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:57 am

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unvote


Okay we're good.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #53) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:58 am

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In post 512, notscience wrote:That's L-1, I'm going to ask noone hammer so I can get my mind around who I intend to shoot.
wait this is totally rhetorical
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Post Post #518 (isolation #54) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:26 am

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If you're scum, I'm taking some pointers from you once this game is over.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #55) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:15 pm

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In post 520, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:All I did was get off the wagon to extend the day to get reads. I didn't try to go anywhere else. I was ALWAYS lynching guyett, I just wasn't lynching him straight away. Slightly confused why you'd deflect onto me though.
Wasn't talking about you.
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Post Post #525 (isolation #56) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:15 pm

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ns is town, guys
i think
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Post Post #528 (isolation #57) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:00 pm

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shadi
who are your top 3 most suspicious people and why?
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Post Post #532 (isolation #58) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:31 am

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hurry up shadi
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Post Post #540 (isolation #59) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:54 am

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I'm going to have to re-read the thread but I don't wanna.
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Post Post #545 (isolation #60) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:40 pm

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Woah what an opportunity.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #61) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:30 pm

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Guys. When have you ever had such a legitimate opportunity to lynch someone on his birthday?

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Post Post #552 (isolation #62) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:40 pm

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happy bday shadi

i wish you would do something to make me think you're town
unless you aren't then that's good keep doing what you're doing
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Post Post #558 (isolation #63) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:52 pm

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I think what you're intuitively noticing is that I'm a lot more flippant without a guyett to tunnel on. But we'll see.
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Post Post #577 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:35 am

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I've been behind both our scum kills this game (yes i do claim involvement in pepper's death). If it weren't for me, guyett would have survived D2 and you wouldn't have survived D3 (I totally could have hammered you without consequence a few pages ago). And you think I'm scum?

Why?
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Post Post #578 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:47 am

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In post 34, Shadi1337 wrote:I don't think it was that suspicious, him thinking it was L-2 could be a legit thought. A L-2 is just slightly off compared to a L-1
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I still don't really think shadi is scum. I just wish people would respond to pressure.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #66) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:51 am

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What are you talking about..?
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Post Post #582 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:58 am

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If you were at L-1 right now and I had said something that in any way connoted "stfu or I'll hammer you", you could then claim that I'm threatening anyone.

I was behind DP being scum. He was one of my first reads of D1. I tunnelled on guyett instead since guyett was more obviously scum, but yes.

And quickhammers on D3 after two scumdeaths when the subject has forfeited his right to defend against the substantive cases brought against him don't ever count as scummy.

If I either continued to think you were scum or wanted you dead for mislynch purposes, I would have just done it, and been in accord with a majority of the town.
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Post Post #583 (isolation #68) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:04 pm

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And please remember to answer my most recent question before our exchange ends.
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Post Post #584 (isolation #69) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:05 pm

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Oh, I mean the one before that one.

Why do you think I'm scum?
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Post Post #587 (isolation #70) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:10 pm

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You're taking words out of context to advance a flimsy case. And you still haven't answered my question.
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Post Post #588 (isolation #71) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:17 pm

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And just to humor you, let me address your points.

However you read that post, there's nothing you can quote from it that suggests that I intended to lynch you.

And even if I were scum, I would still be pretty ignorant of who all is scum. Why? Because this is multiballlll. Whatever my alliance, my misstatement that I'dve "been in accord with a majority of the town" came from a position of ignorance since at minimum
I don't know who all the scum are.
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Post Post #593 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:22 pm

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ns im waiting
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Post Post #596 (isolation #73) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:12 am

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I've said it two times now...
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Post Post #598 (isolation #74) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:26 am

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Well that's boring.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #75) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:48 am

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gah I'm still stuck on the question of shadi's alliance
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Post Post #601 (isolation #76) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:23 am

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If we mislynch and misvenge, it's 2 v 1 v 1. We're pretty likely to have one scum dead with the lynch that proceeds from that scenario, and then be in a favorable position to kill the last one (as two obv towns will still be around and many posts will be available to examine).
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Post Post #602 (isolation #77) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:18 am

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Just one mutually strong townread between two town players, the death of two 'others' (inevitable if these two aren't considered the most scummy possible by a mislynched town), and we can't lose.
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Post Post #604 (isolation #78) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:39 am

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We just have to be certain enough that such a scenario will never arise.
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Post Post #605 (isolation #79) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:43 am

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I suppose maintaining a culture of mass suspicion will be more effective in the end, though...
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Post Post #606 (isolation #80) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:51 am

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Maverick's iso suggests that he is mafia with guyett in a way somewhat more subtle than other people's have.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #81) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:52 am

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Vote Maverick
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Post Post #610 (isolation #82) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:43 am

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In post 261, maverick_alpha wrote:Does anyone actually have any other reason for lynching Maki other than "Contentless Posts"?

This is my main reason for voting him at least, he's actively lurking like his life's on the line, but I wanna know what others think too.

TBH, it's a pretty big reason and it has caught scum before, but I'm just worried if he flips town and vengekills another town.
The diffidence here about the one lynch he's partipated in all game seems a bit overdone.
In post 410, maverick_alpha wrote:Well, for a minor tell with everyone thinking Guyett's Dr.P's scumbuddy, I'm not sure how this weighs on everyone, but Dr.P also never really voted Guyett either.

There's bigger scumtells than this but I'm working on reading everyone first. I've only ISO'd Dr. Pepper to see who he might be scumbuddying with. Just thought I'd throw that out there for a bit.

Gonna see everyone else's too in a bit
He makes a lot of posts associating guyett with DrP but never follows up with a vote. It's a ghost of participation in the wagon.
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In post 562, Marquis wrote:also i've always wanted to do a random question session. ask me things i only joined this game because i'm bored atm
@Marquis: Hi! So some of the players here think NS is scum. I kind of doubt it though, considering there's been no... well, no visible scumtells from him. What do you think?
This is his first mention of the ns wagon. So opinionative but also quite offhand. Why is he avoiding confrontation?
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Post Post #622 (isolation #83) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:52 am

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you really got to work on providing motivating reasons to lynch people ns :(
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Post Post #629 (isolation #84) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:07 pm

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woah, emotion from shadi
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Post Post #631 (isolation #85) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:15 pm

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ns is targetting shadi for not contributing, but that seems to characterize a plurality of everyone here
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Post Post #632 (isolation #86) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:18 pm

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vote shadi


Here's the deal shadi. If you don't make a convincing effort to find and get lynched scum, you're going to die today. You might die no matter what, but yea.
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Post Post #636 (isolation #87) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:48 pm

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damn it
well im a psyche alt
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Post Post #660 (isolation #88) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:00 am

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I'm confident that whatever the shadi result will be, we will manage to win the game. <3
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Post Post #661 (isolation #89) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:06 am

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shadi if you're town could you please venge someone like marquis instead?

Because if ns were scum, he wouldn't be so intent on lynching the guy intent on vengkilling him.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #90) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:49 am

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Is shadi scum or just irrational?

I dunno. And idc. Because this game is won.
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Post Post #666 (isolation #91) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:32 pm

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Last two scum are among shadi, salmon and marquis. <3
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Post Post #669 (isolation #92) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:31 pm

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salmon is quite possibly that solidly playing person who I always keep trusting through LYLO until I get clusterfucked
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Post Post #676 (isolation #93) » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:17 am

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vote marquis


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Post Post #685 (isolation #94) » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:43 am

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No, I cannot be scum.

And ns cannot be scum.

It's one of you three.

And only a matter of timeee.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #95) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:12 am

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I'm no catinbox eother
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Post Post #695 (isolation #96) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:54 pm

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I can disprove any wrong argument. Bring it, kunky.
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Post Post #696 (isolation #97) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:58 pm

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if we were headed towards a mislynch it'd give scum an idea of how likely they were to die from the shot. Fire from the hip.
Exactly. And the resulting change in behavior by the scum would be then more transparent.

That's why I'm sure ns is town. He could've been much more survivalist in face of shadi.

There's a chance he's DrP's scumbud. At this point in the game we either have to drop all associative tells, or lynch you and maverick; everyone else's slot has participated vicariously in every one of the campaigns to lynch every scum currently dead.

Not sure which is the better idea.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #98) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:28 am

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vote maverick


no one noticed my misuse of vicarious
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Post Post #708 (isolation #99) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:21 am

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I'm finding it hard to decide if maverick's v/la means we should lynch him now or after he comes back.
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Post Post #718 (isolation #100) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:02 pm

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Marquis is clearly the superior venge target no matter who gets mislynched.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #101) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:14 pm

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marquiss
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Post Post #722 (isolation #102) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:18 pm

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can we plz lynch a lurker first
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Post Post #723 (isolation #103) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:19 pm

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do you know how long it will take to lynch anyone else??
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Post Post #729 (isolation #104) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:14 pm

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marquis is a null in my book
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Post Post #735 (isolation #105) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:47 am

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WHAT THE HELL DID I SAY??
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Post Post #736 (isolation #106) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:50 am

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How are we going to decide between kunkstar and marquis? Huh??

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Post Post #738 (isolation #107) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:37 pm

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I'm still waiting for the part where you provide a justification for that read so I can make fun of it.

You shouldn't have hammered maverick. You exposed your opportunism.
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Post Post #739 (isolation #108) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:38 pm

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Dramatic
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Post Post #742 (isolation #109) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:17 pm

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You're an idiot.
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Post Post #743 (isolation #110) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:19 pm

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All you had to do was stick with the damned plan, ns. It was so simple.
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Post Post #745 (isolation #111) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:59 pm

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At least I get to blame someone else on a loss for a change.

I think my scumhunting skills grew more in this game than it has in any before it thanks to you. >_>
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Post Post #751 (isolation #112) » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:53 am

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Total meh for everyone.
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