Micro 258: Pick & Ban (Game Over!)

[Shiny Hydreigon]

hi
VOTE: morph

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: neonizer

scum are more aware of the role ban. he is the first to comment on it.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

^ R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

wheres your vote then

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

has it been established who is in the shiny hydra cos for the longest time people were asking me if I was in it.

that was cos my posting was intended to make people think im you

why dont you vote neonizer with me

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

id hardly call two games "every game"

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

okay ^_^

tell me, are you voting neonizer cos you just want a wagon or do you agree with my reasoning?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

because you didnt think of doing it.

sakura, you're my second scumread so far.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: pieguyn

your posts strike me as manipulative

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

i get the feeling you're forcing conclusions in order to paint sakura as scummy instead of actually trying to figure her out

dunno about sakura, either of you could be scum, dont think you are together

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

because i dont think shes scum with you

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

thinking I like shiny

which head is r?

mollie

on a more serious note, we dont reveal who is who

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

hi shiny! i know who you are

okay, now get back to the game

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

thats to me or morph?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

neo is prob scum for talking about the role bans
one of pieguyn/sakura might be scum, pieguyn seems manipulative and sakura... well, not typical sakura

thats about it

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

obvwtf sounds about right

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Yo mod, y'all best be checkin dem VCs coz me n my posse be havin 2 votes if ya no wut i'm sayin

Dat's rite folks, bringn back da classics

Now lemme c wut we got heer

fitty u seem town

u town?

~M~

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naw dawg u b trippin becos u only haz 1 vote if ya no wut i'm sayin
~Mod

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: Fittyshades

Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father, prepare to die.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Lets look at the reasons why you are scum, shall we Nacho?

1) You ask R if they have a better vote than pieguy while still having your vote on RVS
2) There is content, you comment on maybe pursuing Sakura, then go and vote Bert because his opening was boring.
3) You have challenged my honor. Now, why would this be something? You beat me before, think you can beat me again.

Ball's in your court.

pedit

I'm not L.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

1) So, you're asking people to do things you aren't doing. Do as I say not as I do doesn't apply in mafia, nacho.
2) You're dodging. What was the purpose in going for Bert over Sakura when Bert had like one post?
3) You certainly wish you weren't scum don't you.

Pedit

You aren't scumhunting here mollie is

Nice try though.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

>I am owning this game
>I have no town or scum reads

[Shiny Hydreigon]

fitty u seem town

u town?

whoops missed this bit
you can always call me out and i can own you again

You intend to read the game Sakura?

SCUMCHO

1) Let me know when this actually happens this game
2) Make my point more.
3) Doesn't make you any less scum.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

He does have a scumread, unless his vote there is just for shits and giggles.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Hey Nacho, loving this back and forth and all, but I think we have scumkura here.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Yeah no.

VOTE: Sakura

[Shiny Hydreigon]

You're engaged in serious mode letting scum sakura skirt by

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Lets look at how this interaction happened

I say I think Sakura is scum

Sakura says I can't use the AtE and fatalism to make her CONFTOWN

And then does the Sakura OMGUS but not in the traditional town-sakura way. Town Sakura would get flippant about this with her scumread. She's lackadaisal about this.

PEDIT DONT MAKE ME VOTE YOU AGAIN NOW PUT YOUR VOTE ON SAKURA

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Tell me Sakura, is this since you switched your meta?

Yes or no.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

You call this owning? She's literally said "misrep" and that she won't use a cheap tactic.

Pedit

YOU FUCKING WISH

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Your reads list is really bad btw

[Shiny Hydreigon]

TOWN:
Shiny (

wrecking me

)

100% town

Sakura Hana

This belongs in the scum tier

Neonizer

eh

pieguyn

I can buy it

Hey Arnold

Null at best.

LURKFUCK:
DoctorPepper

Spoiler it's what he does now

SCUM:
Skelda

ew I expect you to not have low hanging fruit scumreads what are you doing nacho

Morph the Cat

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Way to totally avoid everything else in the game.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Maybe he already plays this way as his main

fair warning, im prolly not who you think i am

R~

UNVOTE:

[Shiny Hydreigon]

nacho i like your reads

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

cos he loves us

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

why mention skelda but not morph?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I want to see more mollie actually

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I think it might be 50/morph actually

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: 50 shades

[Shiny Hydreigon]

mollie thats all you have to input about this game?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

oh really? what did mollie even post for you to think shes town?

why is morph town?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

@Hydreigon: why has Sakura moved above me again on your scumlist?

im townreading both of you now actually

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

My name's bert and I would like to say that Morph the cat seems so town it's like town on HGH

tl;dr: I am going to catch up with this game and talk to fuzzybutterynutty but I wanted to say morph seems super town.

- Bert

Also mollie seems really town, I'm gonna try to read her instead of nacho

bbl

hey shiny, this^ is who you ought to be scumhunting

he actually is my third scumread

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: heyarnold

dp looks town too

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

want to hear more from neo and skelda please

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

jesus, so many posts

well, I'm here

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I quite like our vote on Pie

Hi mollie!

~L

pedit: hello sakura

[Shiny Hydreigon]

whut

why is it there, I think he's town so far

I think you've been pretty scummy so far, and I'm only on page 6

[Shiny Hydreigon]

What do you want Nacho?

I'm here.

the set-up confuses me

[Shiny Hydreigon]

because Bert looks like Bert

this game is weird :/

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: Pie

Mollie is also looking like normal mollie but Iunno about Nacho

[Shiny Hydreigon]

how'd you get a town read on them when they only had 3 posts at that point? o-o

am I going to get to see play that's totally different from how you played Kanye's game?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Pick: Town Doctor

Pick: Scum Rolecop

Tomorrow needs to be Framer/Doctor.

Townreads for me- DP, Scumcho, Pie

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Scumcho want to lynch



With me?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Here's how this works.

We take RC today with Doctor.

Doctor can confirm people, just like Cop can. the JAILKEEPER however adds in the WIFOM factor. We dont know if it was successful scumblock or ak ill block.

By forcing scum to take Framer tomorrow, they would have to remove the Doctor. And if they remove the doctor, we just make it so whatever isn't framer gets picked.

Scum bans Cop? Pick Doctor and Framer

Scum ban Doctor? Pick RC/RB and Cop

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Because if we keep them locked in rolecop then they still haave to waste a kill on the PR. They can't stop them from using their action.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

ffery, the one we vote is the one that will be enabled, not banned

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

so ffery when you said "you are thinking rolecop" you meant what you are thinking of not voting?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

it certainly didnt look that way, especially since your words were "i was thinking rolecop" which means you were thinking about it before nacho asked.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

dunno, ask M. personally I think I agree with rb.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

what questions are you talking about? this?

@morph: do you think her joining said RVS wagon is similar to that kind of bussing? given the reason for the wagon starting seemed valid enough

this needed major effort?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

no, he was pretty clearly referring to the game she bussed generic, which you brought up. all he was asking was your opinion on whether her vote on neo could be bussing like that.

let me guess, you misunderstood all that like you misunderstood the setup

R~

R

[Shiny Hydreigon]

how does that look off? why would scum-bert townread you so hard especially given said suspicion?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

yeah and Bert thought all of that in the huge amount of time he has spent on this game. bullshit

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Remember in cash cabd

also stop using such references when you clearly still dont know who I am. I havent even read that game.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

also

If you're scum

seriously?

you mean to tell me you still cant realize this is town nacho? how much more obvtown can he possibly be?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

k ive heard enough

UNVOTE:
VOTE: morph

buddy in {skelda, neo}

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

so youre supposedly doing crazy things with your play, yet it surprises/troubles you when nacho or myself scumread you. seems legit

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

oh dont play semantics with me
you're admitting you're making changes
it shouldnt trouble you at all if people scumread you because the change weirds them out

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Sakura Hana
Morph

[Shiny Hydreigon]

you need to work on resisting appeasing and buddying, nacho. its one of your few weak points.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Anna Kendrick

[Shiny Hydreigon]

vote: Scum Roleblocker

[Shiny Hydreigon]

okay then.

still needing more skelda and neo

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

vote: Scum Roleblocker

enable: roleblocker

silly middle head, cant do it properly

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

In either case I'm still thinking on enabling roleblocker rather than rolecop for scum.

Shiny: Why are you voting for enabling rolecop? you already gave a reason for doctor but you haven't responded why rolecop.

R has?

I saw it.

you even rebutted against it.

Enabling rolecop would force scum to have to actually kill the PR. we have a back-up, so even if they find it we will still have another PR and, it'll take two days for them to find/kill the PR at best.

eg, they have at least two days to protect someone, and then that power is transferred to the Back-up if it's ever do get killed. In a micro, two days to have a power is amazing, one day of not being able to do so can be incredibly detrimental

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Ffery, I agree with R RE our vote

why are we wrong?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Ffery, I agree with R RE our vote

why are we wrong?

Why are you voting us?

I think you're scum, and nothing you've done so far has made it that feeling any better

[Shiny Hydreigon]

we have a back-up, so even if they find it we will still have another PR and, it'll take two days for them to find/kill the PR at best.

It'll take them longer without rolecop, and with rolecop they can even find the backup, while at best if they roleblock someone and nothing happens due to their kill going through, they dont know if the roleblocked person is vanilla or the backup.

Worst case scenario, we lynch town today

4:3 tomorrow, it's lylo

we lynch scum today, 5:2 tomorrow

we lynch scum again, 4:1

all we need is to have a PR survive until D3, and get actions in. that will happen if we choose role-cop

I would also go for framer, Doc today but not RB

[Shiny Hydreigon]

we could have a D4, but that rarely happens in a micro game.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

and, either way we should have our PR claim so we would have at least one conf. town, if not two

but enough of this speculation, who do you think is scum?

I'm thinking Pie/Cat ATM, R disagree's with me on cat

we are (I think) Unanimous on Purpletown (M hasn't weighed in on that)
I think bert is town

and everyone else has yet to be sorted

[Shiny Hydreigon]

this is all

~L

if you must know

[Shiny Hydreigon]

crazy lady is crazy

don't listen to her >.>

but, this will hopefully be over by the second day

D4 is lylo, so we are going to need the first three days have actions go through, anyhow

SCUM READS PLEASE

pedit: hi Ffery

[Shiny Hydreigon]

M is thinking Cat/Sak

and right now, I don't have a case other than GUT.

I mean, other than the fact that your post sound a little robotic? but, that really isn't much.

this last post is better. I think...

[Shiny Hydreigon]

that meant to say i disagree with her on pie, not cat.

she thinks pie is scum, i think pie is town.
we both think cat is scum.

also i always sign my posts. any unsigned posts is either M or L, probably the one who posted last and signed.

@sakura
i never argued with you about rolecop, that was M.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Also I'm confident enough to read Cabd, but sometimes i can't tell his posts apart from ffery's

so why is morph town? nearly all the posting has been done by ffery, so how'd you reach that conclusion if cabd is the one you can read?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

1. Shiny Hydreigon (3H hydra) <- their read on me has flip flopped like 23498273 times. I'm not sure if I'm thinking the wrong heads are making certain posts or what. their pushes on people don't seem genuine, but that's mostly gut. probably it's cause I'm not sure which heads are doing what so I keep seeing flip flops in their reads 0.0

let me help you with that.

me (R) initially scumread you because i felt you were being manipulative and you wanted to make us believe sakura is scum. then i thought about it and i saw that your motive probably wasnt that, as you kept questioning sakura but dropped the attempts to make others see what shes doing wrong (besides, realistically, you wouldnt have much of a chance convincing some of the players here to scumread sakura so easily), so i ended up accepting that its just your thing with sakura because you know each other and you were actually just trying to figure her out. sakura also felt better after some of her posting, so i concluded you both are town and posted so when you asked me.
my read on you remains town.

L scumread you from the beginning of her posting and still does so. im not sure why either, i have not really managed to get in synch with her or M yet.

M's only mention of you i remember was that he is townreading you in 317.

@493
294 = L
317 = M
483 = L

hope that helps.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

@ffery: I can read you too, but i need to read you differently than I do Cabd. Specially considering how skilled Cabd is at being scum.

Besides, i did say

somtimes

if that was supposed to answer my question, it didnt

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

ok. so why is ffery town? thats my question.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Btw pokemon, you have until page 5 to be obvtown.

Admitedly this post was prob. made by Cabd, but it gives me a good feeling because he seems eager to start sorting people out.

ok. how is that town indicative? that is general cockiness by cabd, which is there regardless of what alignment he has. in fact its more likely to point to him drawing scum if anything.

I looked at open 530. Says she was town in that game?

You think it's alignment indicative?

^^
I liked this questioning too.
Seems like ffery finding out pieguy's reasonings for a trajectory analisis later on. (inb4 Cabd posted that)

why cant those posts have come from ffery-scum? mismatching and other ffery scum games are full of such questions, here's an example from mismatching:

You feel that his vote indicates something has changed?

^like whats the difference between this and 56 of this game?

Because morph is a partnership, and we usually don't vote in the first few pages of a game (outside RVS, which Cabd sometimes does) without discussing our reads.

I'd think scum ffery wouldn't even dare to say something like this.

why? why do you still underestimate scum-ffery? havent you lost to her enough yet?
she's fully capable of saying this.
she does hesitate to vote as scum and this is a perfect excuse for her not to.

Since when do you pass out easy townreads to either of morph's heads?

Why do you want to read 50 based on Mollie?

Why no comment on the various shitfests that have occurred so far?

^^
I liked these questions.

more questions that i dont see why they cant come from scum-ffery.

I was thinking that mafia would want rolecop. Like I said, I had a misconception about the mechanics. I thought there was some interplay between what the mafia wants/chooses for their ability and what town chooses. I went back and reread the mechanics after Sakura's question because I could tell there was a disconnect of some sort.

If nothing else i'd think scum are more likely to know/figure out the mechanics faster than town, the fact that ffery was lost and confused wrt how the banning/enabling works looks like a pretty big towntell to me.

no. she was making stuff up because she was cornered. she contradicted herself because first she said that she was thinking (to vote) rolecop, then she changed that to "no i was thinking what scum would want" while nacho had just asked the question and therefore she couldnt be thinking about it earlier.

You'll have to look harder for town-me.

^^
I also liked this.

[/quote]


in general you "like" things that can easily come from scum-ffery. youve seen scum-ffery yourself and you should know that.
i suggest you read her exchange with nacho - its evident how she is pressured and needs to think up of something believable. i was reading it in real time so i also took into account the lagging between nacho's questions and her answers, but i guess i cant expect that from anyone else.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Before the game started, Cabd mentioned that jailkeeper as the best combo of protection/information in this setup, and I agree.

here. i knew i saw it somewhere.
she talked mechanics with cabd before the game. theres no way she had them wrong. this proves she was making it up.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

He was definitely pressuring me and I was cooperating fully and openly in my answers because any off note or caution would have been obvious to him. Nacho knows that I hate to lie as scum and will, rather than answer the question asked, go off on a tangent a little that lets me keep to truthful statements. That didn't happen here, and in fact I made statements that I usually won't make even as town because I don't like or trust statements that boil down to "I am town" from other players and I avoid them myself. I realized partway through that discussion, particularly the part about why I didn't go after him assuming he's scum for misreading me, that I was making statements that boiled down to "I am town".

what youre saying here is that you are aware of what nacho wants to see and you are aware of what you do as town or scum. that means that as scum, you would know what to say to appease nacho. of course its not easy, which explains the lagging.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Being known as slow to vote at times as town is convenient when I'm scum, but it's a prominent feature of my town game, to the point where putting an early vote down garners suspicion among players who know my town game.

if that was the case, you would answer "because i dont want to vote now" or something similar to pieguy's question. you had no reason to bring up all the "we are a team" bullshit. the reason you did is to make it more believable and draw less attention than you would draw with such an answer.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Nope. I was very confused by the disconnects, though and had to go back and reread the rules.

nope. you admitted that you discussed the setup with cabd before the game, and you even talked with him about what mafia role to vote after it had started. theres no way all this took place with you having not understood the setup.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

dodging my question ok

that question doesn't make any sense. you think I'm scum because you haven't seen play that's "totally different" than one of my scumgames? why does my towngame have to me totally different? rather than comparing to my towngames, this seems like you're just selectively applying meta to get whatever result you want

assuming you've finished reading, mind explaining why I'm scummy?

@Sakura:

do you know something I don't <_>

Hi, I'm Mara.

That question should make more sense now.

I've made it pretty clear that, at that point, I had just started reading. said I was scum reading you, because your play was similar to Kanye's game and I only got

6 pages in

trying to read up, while responding usually leads to missing a question or two

Bertnut is town, based on initial vibes they were giving off.

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

meanwhile, I'm still not seeing anything different from how you approached Kanye's game and, you're response to me asking if you're play is going to be different from your scum game isn't all that comforting.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I could hope that a detailed exchange would prove him wrong, but there is simply no way that I could do it as scum. Maybe one day my scum game will be that good, but I doubt it.

hmm...

[Shiny Hydreigon]

and, Pie?

I did say I was crazy when I came up with those numbers.

I play alot of mini games, havn't touched a micro in a long while, same with larges, so, three scum is basically the norm for me.

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

also, why is Skelda scum, and Neon null while both of them are the same content and activity wise?

Pedit: I'm trying to think if that's more me-esque or more, Tammy-esque.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

holy wow I had guessed you were Mara

meanwhile, I'm still not seeing anything different from how you approached Kanye's game and, you're response to me asking if you're play is going to be different from your scum game isn't all that comforting.

how is 6 pages enough to sort my alignment, when your reason is "there's nothing different"? do you think it's not possible that it just happened to match by coincidence?

what makes the way I'm playing in this game similar to the way I played in kayne's game?

also, why is Skelda scum, and Neon null while both of them are the same content and activity wise?

Pedit: I'm trying to think if that's more me-esque or more, Tammy-esque.

his opportunsitic as fuck jump on me

others (or at least Nacho) have also said that the first sentence in that post doesn't seem genuine

Hmm...

a few posts is sometimes enough for me to sort out someones alignment, even if I don't know much about them. 6 pages is more than enough time for it to happen

sure, it's possible for your town/scum game to be pretty exactly the same, but doubtful. there are some minor differences (that I can't probably see yet) each person have. I have some, I know what they are but not everyone is as aware of their game as I am. I am not exactly a believer of "coincidence"

You're opening is gives off the same vibe, your pushes give off the same vibe, though I do admit that you are a tad bit more active though that could easily be because of the amount of time we have here.

Mmmm

UNVOTE:

[Shiny Hydreigon]

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

why is hanasawa town?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

and if you have even one null read why are you saying things like 'game over'?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

you have one null read and one nulltown read. you cant use poe with null reads.

"game over" and similar phrases are commonly used to manipulate town, thats why im standing there.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

do you have anything other than "poe" for thinking we're scum?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

re:unvote

knowing L, she probably thought we were still voting pieguy. however, both myself and L think ffery was townish in her last responses to me and are less sure about her being scum.

it currently looks like its skelda and hanasawa, though i dont think it would be that simple. L still suspects pieguy and his last posts make me less sure about my townread on him.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

but since I like your last answer I'm thinking you're town atm.

which answer? why do you like it?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

morph

wtf is Lilac

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

thats what i thought

mostly poe, i havent seen anything from that slot to think they're town

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I don't know where Shiny is coming from but if you're using anything my predecessor did for a reasoning on me, I suggest you find something fresh.

this just sounds like something scum would say

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

but since we're on that

why would i disregard anything i had on your predecessor? did he have a different alignment than you?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

i wasnt aware only pieguy could use poe, sorry

its understandable that you wouldnt want a case on you to be "your predecessor was scum, so youre scum". but saying that we should disregard your predecessor completely is nonsense.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

but i dont even get why youre making such a deal over your predecessor. if i recall, the only person who said they think your slot is scum because of your predecessor is skelda, and even he isn't voting you. it looks more like

you

think your predecessor was scummy and you want to set up a defense against such accusations

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Heya. I don't think I'm going to use anything previously because I don't feel that it's great for me to use something I wasn't even a part of.

and if you look at this in this light, it looks like this was posted for that purpose as well.

do you disagree, pieguy?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

No, it's because you called out pieguy for PoE with null reads so I'm saying that you've got town reads on everyone else.

thats incorrect, i called him out on the strength of his poe - you cant say stuff like "game over" when you still have people to figure out. my own poe does point to you and skelda but im far from deciding ive figured the game out. like i said, i dont think it would be as simple as scum being the two people that have not been active.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

mollie, read on hanasawa?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I wanted to actually know your reasoning for all the other town reads that you've managed to get now in D1 more.

why, are you looking for reads to sheep?
i want to know your reads instead.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

so now do you think its actually possible that he said that as scum?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

i doubt i implied it. i said it clearly.

my strength of my poe? where was my poe strong enough to decide the game is over or something similar?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

if i thought it was game over, id be pushing for one of your lynches. i still have people im unsure about and i want to figure them out before that.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

everyone cant be town

how is he town anyway

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Bert's starting to lose that town shine that I saw earlier.

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

VOTE: heyarnold

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

still good with my vote, could also do skelda

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

oh

eww

I see some comments about my activity.

was that you ffery?

~M~ is V/LA atm, and I'm hardly ever reliable as poster these days.

what were you trying to draw from it?

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I dunno, I havn't actually read anything since my last post...

I agree'd with R's post, and it's mostly sheeping nacho originally

let me catch up.

~L

[Shiny Hydreigon]

or

I'm just busy

Bert, You're giving me whiplashes

[Shiny Hydreigon]

WAITWAITWAIT

why is Skelda being quicklynched?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

jesus christ
UNVOTE:

I think, in the last couple pages, you were town as fuck

I especially liked the paranoia of my non-paranoia.

I really do not see any reasons on why Skelda is being lynched though

~L

Pedit: no, I just don't understand where this wagon on him came from

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I think Nacho's gotten a little shittier, though.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I think Nacho's gotten a little shittier, though.

this could be an indication...

maybe

or

I could be jealous

my head is hurting

and, I still don't see any indication of Skelda scum

Pedit: you guys are demanding

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Because he has 80% chance of being scum.

based on what?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

hey morph, guess what, i didnt ask for a case. i asked to know how sakura estimates that skelda is 80% flipping scum. apparently gut generates numbers.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

as far as i can tell, she asked why skelda is being lynched, not why nacho thinks skelda is scum.

or are you arguing hes being lynched because "he said wowzers" is a super strong scumtell and everyone is a lazy sheep?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

maybe i had it right with nacho/morph after all...

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

so thats a compelling case?

no, i actually thought skelda had good chances of being scum because of poe. i dont think so anymore cos of how hes being pushed.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

Kill skelda

does mollie even agree with that?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

the fact that no1 has any reasons for pushing. nacho came up with a "case" and everyone is either sheeping or following their gut, apparently not even caring to hear from the wagoned person.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

im failing to get your point. sakura even said shed hammer without waiting for him.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

so what? maybe he got busy for one extra day. is he scum for that? is that seriously a reason to lynch him instead of waiting for him to show up/get replaced?

yes, i thought nacho was being his obvtown self during his exchange with you. now i dont think so. i dont like how hes pushing this lynch with practically no reason to do so. i also do not like how hes calling everyone town when it doesnt seem like they did something to warrant this.

im asking cos mollie has been basically absent from this game and the last time she posted she asked why bert has not been lynched yet and then the same for sakura. it doesnt seem like she agrees with the skelda thing and i doubt shed let this go like that. and then theres also the fact that i have seen mollie-scum ignoring the game and leaving everything to hydra buddies, so i think that its possibly what shes doing.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

skelda you keep defending but theres no scumhunting. who is scum?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

the only reason I think skelda could be town is the poor reasoned wagon on him. otherwise, hes still scummy.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

scummy does not equal scum. pushing for content is what is needed, not lynching.

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

What is the "otherwise". What stuff has been missed by the wagoneers?

the lack of scumhunting and the repetition of the same "omg I was vla how is that scummy" defence, for starters. I also got bad vibes from his early posts, but that was more gut than anything.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

scummy things can come from town too. you push for more until you have something solid.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

simply put, im not ready for a lynch before i see more.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

skelda did you just ignore me?

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

@YES YES YES

i noticed something else in the skelda scumgame you provided.

compare:

Oh, I needed to claim?

I'm a Vanilla Townie. Which is good, I suppose. At least you aren't losing a Mason...

I'm a VT, at least, so killing me won't lose you anything but a lynch.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

link me to a town game where you said something similar.

also explain your scumreads.

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

k im ok with the lynch now.

not hammering right now in case someone still wants to talk about something

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

I've already explained why I dislike Pie, but Hana is partly because of the whole Neo thing and partly because of the way he strategically stayed off of me while supporting my lynch. Scum don't like being on the same wagon.

this was supposed to be the picks/reasons, i guess

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

Bert needs to be jailkeeper target when goat flips scum

you dont get to decide that
personally id prefer you to be jailed

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

for the reasons I said in 922

pedit: I dont see why not

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[Shiny Hydreigon]

If skelda is town then who do you think should be jailed?

whoever the jk wants. its not helpful to discuss that.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

^R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

so youre saying youre not capable of hardbussing?

R~

[Shiny Hydreigon]

sometimes its just that simple. i thought it cant really be the two lurkers, but it was.

gj

R~