Hey, ETL, do we have a QT? In my experience games are more fun when we have a QT. I literally see no drawback to claiming numbers for town. I don't think it gives us much utility, but I don't see a drawback.
Also, claiming in either order gives (scum-likelies) a chance to lie, so there's no real stopping it. I'm perfectly fine with claiming in either case, but your assumptions are flawed.
PEdit: Majiffy is correct sah. I look forward to finding out what significant is after the game.
I propose a new plan. After we have a couple of cowards who know what team they fight for, we lynch out of the known alignment pool. As far as I can tell, no one has any abilities until they open their second PM, so that seems like the best shot to find scum. Does anyone see any problems with that?
PEdit2: I want to be pinky Majiffy. Narf!
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What kind of American are you if you don't sympathise with the downfall of a monarchy? And Zelda totally escaped. Ask yourself this, has he not suffered enough for his crimes, locked away for an indeterminate amount of years?
I forgot why we were arguing. So sure, I'll vote to put Ganon out of his misery.
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Jiffy, don't talk to your fake-mom that way.
The way I see it we can take two approaches to today's play. Lynch people with low town probabilities or lynch people who are difficult to read/low expected value later.
With that said, of course we're quicklynching today. Why else would you sign up for this?
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But do you think you are likely to want him to stay around? Are you scum Nati?
In other news, I think that the 'likely partner' is probably the previous person in the alignment rolling order. I also believe that people are more likely to have lied about their town likeliness the later they claimed, so there's another order I would be fine with using to find lynchbait.
I'm not moving my vote, because Millers with no utility are a liability, and Wake read his role PM thus ruining my fun. Thoughts?-
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Also, you a liar ETL. Wake was totally an even night vig in your normal game, and everyone believed that.
New lynch order by-the-by:
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I want you dead second least. Also you have believed things he's said in the past. I'm being anal retentive right now because I've got like five minutes until I can close the store and go home.In post 158, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I can't believe a word that Wake says ever.
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Wake, you are literally the only person who's read his role PM. You got an anti-town role, or are lying about it. I'd be willing to lynch off of the assumption your claim is true.
Also, ETL, I think I understand your confusion. The list goes from I don't want to lynch to Wake. Sorry bout that.
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Jiffy- the way I see it everyone has two goals. First finding out their alignment and second fulfilling their wincon. I chose the way I did because of the former, not the latter. I now feel fairly confident that I am town. To that end, why are we lynching? The reason scumkills are more threatening than lynches are because they're directed. With Om the only one who knows his alignment, there are decent odds that scum-actions aren't directed. With Om the only one who knows his role, lynches are mostly undirected. A longer game gives us more utility, and with Town>Scum, I find that likely to mean town will benefit more from that.
VOTE: No Lynch
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Unless it is Om, those kills will be basically random, thus have a decent shot at hitting their scumbuddy. I'm fine with that, as it is almost as likely to hit scum as a lynch right now. The wrinkle in this plan is other people looking at their roles. If I had been more sure of my towniness, I would have put this forward yesterday.-
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The kill failure doesn't make me town. The kill failure greatly increases the chance I'm town. That I submitted my kill fairly late also decreases my scum chance in my eyes. This should be absolutely null for all of you because this is mafia and people are probably lying. That gives me the motivation to try and draw the game out to get more town power. Unless it is Om, which, yes, is a big caveat, then the scum who knows they are scum do not know their buddy. Hence, random shooting has a chance at hitting the buddy. I plan to use protect tonight, because like watch it casts a fairly wide net and is high utility. It's also an iconic role, and while overpowered in role madness I would be surprised if no one had it.
Also yes, playing obvtown as either alignment would be optimal in the situation of 2 things. 1. People don't realize that towniness or not-towniness aren't really factors yet. 2. You believe yourself charismatic enough to influence everyone to not vote for you. Unlike certain jiffys, I don't have that much faith in my charisma. The only useful lynches right now ARE policy lynches, so we should be playing to be useful.
And as to the no lynch idea, here are the numbers. If we lynch, we are at 4 and 2, which a NK might make 3 and 2, LYLO, with no one having used their spiffy roles knowingly. Unless someone gets lucky with their action guess, we'll be going into LYLO blind. A no lynch on the other hand, leaves us at 5 and 2, with a possible kill putting us to MYLO. At that point we should all look at our PMs, in order to have as many results as possible going into LYLO. If the kill doesn't happen due to protect actions getting lucky, then we have exactly this same situation but with better power roles. Capische? The only reason I didn't suggest this yesterday was that I had a decent chance of being scum, and didn't want to risk hosing myself through role madness.-
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ETL, don't worry bout it. I do stupid things on purpose to make things more fun for me sometimes. For example, I recently took near conftown Thor into LYLO when I didn't have to because the other LYLO options were really boring. I then lost. That was incredibly stupid, but still the most fun part of the game.-
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Hence the every good lynch right now is a policy lynch. We all, with the exception of Om, are coming from the same state of motivation: unsure alignment. The only question is results. Who is likely to produce better results?
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I'm fine with whatever order we want. I just want to find out if anyone can confirm themselves as town. I'm also interested as to what caused your suspicions to change.
I'd actually like to hear from Om's partner next as it gives scum less information to fakeclaim, but am not sure on my logic there.-
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Care to explain why?In post 606, Majiffy wrote:Caught up.
Chortle.In post 602, Natirasha wrote:Wisdom or me, I'd say.
Wisdom's actions ITT is why I wanted him lynched yesterday.
No Lynch was fucking dumb.
Idea to massclaim today is also fucking dumb.
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Jiffy, I don't think that the electoral college is gonna check mafiascum for votes. Sorry to get your hopes up.
. I tried to kill Om because 99%. I'm apparently not scum.
