Micro 303: Tarot uPick - Game Over!

[GuyInFreezer]

ZA WARUDO

VOTE: Nazarene

[GuyInFreezer]

Who can I claim masons with.... how about Orci.


ORCI AND I ARE MASONS; TIME TO WRECK SHIT LETS GO BRO

confirming

VOTE: ald who the fuck RVS votes TIP?

Why not vote

Jacob

Tippy?

[GuyInFreezer]

Also

Claim: best card in the deck

[GuyInFreezer]

Just checked fery's normal votecount and they have "L-X" after the major wagon.
so I believe you.

UNVOTE:

[GuyInFreezer]

Why didn't you claim hated earlier?

[GuyInFreezer]

Probably not, but I wanted to check if it has a chance to be a rxn test because messing with those kind of reaction test is fun.
(Not in the ruining way btw)

[GuyInFreezer]

Also second person confirming the likability of claim gets rid of the excuse of lolhammering and say "oh I thought he was bluffing".

[GuyInFreezer]

Not me.

[GuyInFreezer]

rxn test = reaction test

[GuyInFreezer]

Who can I claim masons with.... how about Orci.


ORCI AND I ARE MASONS; TIME TO WRECK SHIT LETS GO BRO

confirming

VOTE: ald who the fuck RVS votes TIP?

Why not vote

Jacob

Tippy?

[GuyInFreezer]

Also orci why get excited over late hated claim?
in the end, they claimed.

[GuyInFreezer]

This game is unexpectedly slow with the playerlist.

orci is that vote a vote for scum or just a "fuck you" vote?

[GuyInFreezer]

Also giffy is being too nice

I've heard this one before.

[GuyInFreezer]

I am already being town though.
And I'm trying to figure out what orci is doing.

[GuyInFreezer]

Do you think he's scum for it?

[GuyInFreezer]

Vote for scum

Wasn't setup spec, and people shouldn't need to ask why I'm concerned about a hated claim

So do you think his hated claim is fake?

[GuyInFreezer]

tbh I wanna park on one of the lurkers/inactives but then it was a weekend yesterday so :\

How about Medea?
If they don't obvtown soon enough, we can lynch the hell out of them.

[GuyInFreezer]

Kagami's fine too for being useless so far

[GuyInFreezer]

/first

[GuyInFreezer]

Right, I remember why I was scumreading orcinus. He starts off aggressive with Nazarene then tries to cooperate then goes back to being aggressive again. It's all fake as shit.

Why is it fake?

[GuyInFreezer]

Let me ask you the same question.
Do you believe in hated scum in micro game?

[GuyInFreezer]

I've never seen hated scum before in micro, and it would be kinda unfair for scum to have hated status.
*GIF remembers the Touhou UPick and shudders*
So yeah, I pretty much put him as confirmed town in my head.

[GuyInFreezer]

Every post of his posts is a scum-post, and I don't see why hated makes a significant difference once it's been claimed.

I see GiF wrapped up micro 291, for those interested in reading a kagami scum-game. The town is weak and the setup is extremely scum-sided, though, so I'm not sure how predictive it is of how I'll play when I next roll scum.

Gitl my setup was great stop lying

[GuyInFreezer]

Do you see paranoia in his posts? Uncertainty? Attempts to divine players' alignments?

If it weren't for the lack of L-X in the vote counts, I would have taken 54 as an honest scum-claim.

No early paranoia doesnt bother me though

[GuyInFreezer]

Like the moment of paranoia is different from people ti people.
Its a late game where people are suspicious for no paranoia.
I hpnestly dont know wheres your huge ego coming from

[GuyInFreezer]

I MISSED THE FUN WHY THAT HAD TO BE YESTERDAY NOT TONIGHT :<

...
Gitl my setup was great stop lying

The game was fun, and you did a great job of modding, especially given that you had to spam prods. I didn't say it's a bad setup, it just favors the scum-team. If town had played differently, it could have been really interesting how things worked out with the protection, even if we had an edge.

I don't buy nazarene town, and I'm having trouble figuring out why I don't have any traction here. His posts feel very, very obv-scum to me; even his quoted hydra chat in 54 reads like scum trying to decide if they should claim hated rather than town deciding if they should tell everyone about it.

Even at that, isn't it odd that town-nazarene's heads "agreed" to claim hated, when they actually claimed hated because they were driven to L-1 and were fearful they'd be accidentally lynched?

I think ferry is far too careful to mod-slip like this, as well. Even if we don't believe that a hated player could be scum, it's entirely possible that scum-nazarene has a mod-given "hated" fake-claim, which ferry chose not to spoil by posting L-Xs.

TIP is scum too, btw.

Did I tell you that I was drunk when I said that?

@ald:
I don't exactly remember what your vote looked like when you made it, but gif pointed out how it looked badly and it did, really.

I don't remember the cooperation you are talking about, sadly. Why don't you think a townie trying to figure out the game would want to cooperate with a scumread? I do that all the time when I'm town and not tunneling.

What do you think of other players, for instance us and kagami?

I don't buy nazarene town, and I'm having trouble figuring out why I don't have any traction here. His posts feel very, very obv-scum to me; even his quoted hydra chat in 54 reads like scum trying to decide if they should claim hated rather than town deciding if they should tell everyone about it.

Point out the scumminess, honey. Just telling us about it won't help you.

Even at that, isn't it odd that town-nazarene's heads "agreed" to claim hated, when they actually claimed hated because they were driven to L-1 and were fearful they'd be accidentally lynched?

You suggest that we should have claimed hated only when we were done talking about it, ignoring the fact that we were at L-1?

I think ferry is far too careful to mod-slip like this, as well. Even if we don't believe that a hated player could be scum, it's entirely possible that scum-nazarene has a mod-given "hated" fake-claim, which ferry chose not to spoil by posting L-Xs.

Rly

Now stop mudslinging pls

-Tier

The reasoning behind my vote on Aldus was that his reasoning of vote on orci had the tone of "hey this is my own reasoning" when what he did was parroting of what everyone said.
Thanks for reminding this btw. I was forgetting about this since teh tigres.

pretty sure kagami is scum, just finished a scum game with him
ask gif

That game where everyone lurked to win/loss?

VOTE: Kagami

Lynch -1

This is lolzy

Nati why didn't you do the thing on this guy
It would've been even more hilarious.

VOTE: Medea the Alien

Daycop guilty.

Not joking.

Cute, nati, cute.

Mad props for it not being a faked dayvig instead.

You're boring :<
But this has a bit of town in it.

also also

SSK would never let me fake a guilty after ASoIaF.

What happened in that game? I didn't follow and everyone's talking about that game.

nazarene is probably town, although i really do want them to claim their hated mechanic

TIP might be scum

About time.

What does it say "The World" represents?

Well yeah I saw the daycop shit and it was obviously fake. There is absolutely no reason to comment on it...

/catchup

For the fun between Garruk and Medea, for now happy to move Medea to town, even though I wasn't quite satisfied with the back-and-forth.
In this game, I have trouble taking my stances because I constantly think if I am scumreading someone or just plainly being frustrated.
I'm talking about {TIP/PN}

For an example, TIP's "dat rxn test obv fake" makes me want to stab him with a razor, while PN's unvote shortly after going after someone for not voting daycop-guilty (I think it was kagami?) wants me to burn them alive without water.

I still like my aldus vote because he haven't done anything since that scummy post, but he's in V/LA so ugh

[GuyInFreezer]

The Heads of the Hydra agree that PN is a total scumbag for attempting to rush a quicklynch on Medea and general scummy behavior, including a questionable L-1 vote on Kagami presented with fake humor. This is bad.

This Head of the Hydra personally finds TIP repulsive in every way imaginable and very likely scum. In particular, if the fake nature of the cop claim was so obvious, this Head wonders why TIP did not take advantage of the opportunity to gain information in whatever way he thought best.

Despite the coincidence of these reads with those of GuyInFreezer, this Head of the Hydra is still uncomfortable with the conspicuous absence that Medea has mentioned and that this Head has confirmed by looking at GiF's post history. This Head finds this scummy.

The Heads of the Hydra will confer and place a vote.

-A

if you checked the posting history you would've known that I prod dodged that day bc I was busy.

[GuyInFreezer]

I forgot to prod dodge in few games.
I'm not gonna go into too much details but let's just say "bottom of the bookmark" and a misclick in index page were involved.

[GuyInFreezer]

Pdodge
(Should've done V/LA til tonight)

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: PN

[GuyInFreezer]

policy or scumvote?

It's one of those "I'm probably voting scum but I won't regret if he flip town" vote.

[GuyInFreezer]

gif

i remember his town game to be somewhat abtruse, but that was a while ago

what do you make of his play so far

It's all based on what I want to do in the game. Sometimes I like to be cryptic. Sometimes I like to be transparent. Sometimes I like to be passive. Sometimes I like to be over-active. I have no set play.

his vote on us is pretty shallow

medea hasnt really done anything to warrant his "moving medea to town for now" comment after the nat's fakeclaim

overall not really inspired play from him at all

null-scum, also his positions on ppl look lazy and his approach on u was weird as heck

For you maybe
The abrupt "o hey that reaction though" felt town to me.
But as I said, I'm kinda not satisfied with the whole interaction because of how abrupt it ended.

ald i have at null but i want to put him somewhere

points of interest: no vote, scumread on me that's based on a misrep and no vote to follow

vla though so that's kinda dull

That's about what I have on aldus, except for switching null to leaning scum.

For the fun between Garruk and Medea, for now happy to move Medea to town, even though I wasn't quite satisfied with the back-and-forth.

What weren't you satisfied with? As I think I've made clear, I'd like to get maximum value out of this, and it's already helped persuade me of town-Nazarene and likely town-Garruk. Scum reads have only solidified, but I'll take the definitive impact on town reads.

Explained above.

[GuyInFreezer]

We are beginning to feel the urge to hammer something.
Can someone put someone at L-1 for us?

Please open your mouth so I can insert my foot in there

[GuyInFreezer]

LA until Sunday.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: TIP

You're welcome

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Kagami

Don't ask why
just do it

[GuyInFreezer]

1SV in micro?

[GuyInFreezer]

I just found the page and looked at my stuff and wow.
I could've been an innocent child.

[GuyInFreezer]

Maybe alignment change if I had shot scum?

The best role.

[GuyInFreezer]

1SV in micro?

Yep, I hope this will also lead you to re-evaluating your opinion about hated-ness. I strongly suspect that Ferry put her theme above site meta. She very clearly cares about this.

The difference is that their hatedness is proven while your 1SV is not.
Also putting 1SV in 9p setup easily leads to D2 MyLo if mislynched D1 and misvig'd N1, which harms town. Why would fery put 1SV in the micro setup?

[GuyInFreezer]

if it's likely to get false positives.

I wouldn't gave jumped on it quickly if the result had a decent chance of being false positive.

[GuyInFreezer]

What about aldus

[GuyInFreezer]

Follow

[GuyInFreezer]

I thought it was pretty obvious at this point.

[GuyInFreezer]

Page top hehehe

[GuyInFreezer]

I object to massclaim.
At least not today

[GuyInFreezer]

Then what's the point of massclaim

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh btw this is an irrelevant question but

Did MafiaSSK post?

[GuyInFreezer]

[GuyInFreezer]

hi

VOTE: ald

Thank you for confirming my vote on you you bandwagoning scum whose idea of playing is "harp on the hated thing for a bajillion years."

Where are all the TIP town reads coming from? I mean, I get it if you don't think he's scum (I have him at null), but town? Really?

So now that jacob flipped town, whatcha thinkin'?

[GuyInFreezer]

Hi

[GuyInFreezer]

can we please not vote kagami just yet pls pls pls

She only has two votes and no one else is expressing their opinion to vote her. You're fine.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also Garruk/Aldus not expressing their opinion re: Kagami's vig claim is noted.

[GuyInFreezer]

I agree he sounds bit blunt but I've been liking PA's posts though

[GuyInFreezer]

Especially his reaction to Garruk's day

vig

cop stuff.

[GuyInFreezer]

I townread these following people:

• Medea the Alien (Liked PA's posts)
  
• orcinus_theoriginal (I don't feel the vibe I felt in NY167 from you. In Vesperia I did feel it from you but I let it slide convincing myself that I'm probably thinking too much about it ;-;)
  
• Nazarene (Hated. Even though his hated mechanic gone by D2 makes me feel kinda iffy)

So if Kagami is not scum then that leaves me with:

• aldusskel
  
• Garruk Relentless

I find the way Kagami claimed vig and her follow up somewhat town but that's what I do as scum to get out of the heat sometimes: exotic fakeclaim.
Also, 327 could be fishing for protective roles, and 358 could be easily fishing for orc's role.
I've been silently observing Kagami bc her posts has been... exotic. I've never seen Kagami being full of ego before, which is part of the reason I went for her N1, thinking that if scumteam contained Kagami, she's probably the one who would make a kill. Now I got the result that I kinda expected to see, but claiming vig and stuff made me even more confused. Part of me kinda want to just lynch her anyway but if she's town it's LyLo tomorrow ._.

So... help?

[GuyInFreezer]

Am I the only one in this game who is townreading medea?

[GuyInFreezer]

I can't see however how you think any of her other posts are town since they all give me the chills. They all look so shallow and fake when you really look at them. Can you explain why their other posts look good?

I liked PA's general contribution level and my gut liked her posts too.
I'll go over their posts again probably tomorrow and evaluate again to see if I see your point.

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually my role makes a lot of sense with my flavor.

[GuyInFreezer]

But I have no intention to fullclaim.

[GuyInFreezer]

V/LA for weekend

[GuyInFreezer]

Pdodge
I have no energy atm

[GuyInFreezer]

mfw my first follower guilty ever flips 1SV in micro

[GuyInFreezer]

D2 loved JoaT (1-shot follow and something else that I would like to hide the other one)

[GuyInFreezer]

Also post tomorrow

[GuyInFreezer]

Flavor?

The Fool

Hello friends

This is your public announcement that the scum team is Medea/GiF

Nope
Try again

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: orc

[GuyInFreezer]

WE DID IT CABD
PERFECT SCUMWIN
I TOLD YOU WE COULD DO IT

[GuyInFreezer]

WE DID IT CABD
PERFECT SCUMWIN
I TOLD YOU WE COULD DO IT

[GuyInFreezer]

Cease to hate, learn to love. Let the love spread.

[GuyInFreezer]

Pretty satisfied about this game.
called aldus being neighbor with TIP D2 (which is why we left him alive so we can either make him vote orci or make orci/naz vote him)
Was basically a confirmed town Day 2
My awesome night actions (targeted kagami n1 with an ability cop and decided to kill garruk n2 which if he was alive we would've been screwed even more)

[GuyInFreezer]

Congratulations,

Cabd

and giffy!!

Thank you so much for the game, Lady Ffery.

Much love to all!

Holy boo I forgot cabd played in a hydra

PA <33333333

VOTE: Bazinga
Lynch all liars

[GuyInFreezer]

HOLY SHIT HE VOTED ORC
[1:22:40 AM] Cabd Cabd: HAMMER YOU FUCKER
[1:23:08 AM] Cabd Cabd: HAMMER
[1:23:21 AM] Cabd Cabd: DO IT FOR JUSTICE
[1:23:48 AM] Ocean Blue Freezer: JUSTICE
[1:24:08 AM] Ocean Blue Freezer: Thank god I was awake at 1:24 AM amirite
[1:24:11 AM] Cabd Cabd: wooot
[1:33:14 AM] Ocean Blue Freezer: I was awake at this time
[1:33:22 AM] Ocean Blue Freezer: It was a sign for us to win