Sthar8 and Jingle
In post 308, kabooooom wrote:LC, you tracked me to majify on n2, so why didn't you track me last night? Why GG?
We targetted GG on n1 because AP was townblocking, and I have enough respect for his scumgame not to let him manipulate me like that. Plus, if we had been able to confirm a few of his block, it would have won the game for town.
We tracked you on n2 because you were a universal scumread of our townreads. Easy as pie. Then you walked to the kill and I was 100% sure you were scum until this discussion with Beli.
Last night, we tracked beli for two reasons:
1. Beli's claimed role does not target. If we got a result on him it would have been a 100% guilty. We also discussed the possibility that scum might no-kill. That would have been a major risk with GG's role unknown, unless they could block GG. Which would mean that our action would resolve. We knew that you had a targeting action of some kind, but we had no such confirmation from beli.
2. it was fewer keystrokes to send in the beli track.
In post 311, Belisarius wrote:
The razor: Night 3 there is a claimed roleblock. Nights 1 and 2 there are not. Simplest explanation: There is no roleblocker and the claimant is lying.
If I had been scum I would have claimed a guilty on kabooom and suggested that AP copied varsoon's power and protected me, dying in the process. Instead, I truthfully pointed out that it was very unlikely that this was the case. Why would I drag this out when I could have just claimed a guilty and been done? You already pointed out how strongly you were townreading me; it would have been the simplest and easiest play as scum, with the fewest chances for complication.
Also, most of the town would not have noticed if they had been blocked. On night 1, Majiffy and aronis had no night action, varsoon obviously didn't protect bert and if you're telling the truth, you didn't use your shot. Same with kabooom. Night 2, Varsoon forgot to send his action and we don't know how the results of GG's are reported. In fact, the only three people who ever
could
have reported being blocked are you, me, and kabooom. And one of us is LYING. The simplest explanation is in fact that last night was the only night where there was any decent probability that town would even notice a block being used.
Role madness means swingy, not unbalanced.
Go look again. In the flipped roles, we have the ability to make four people unkillable for a night, with all of those roles being obviously town. And if I'm a scum tracker, scum had NO WAY TO INTERACT WITH THOSE ACTIONS. The game would have been solvable by mass claim on day 1. That's not swingy, its straight up broken.
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Anyone else really underwhelmed by the surprise we were promised?