Micro 346: Tuatha Dé Danann Mafia - Game Over!

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:16 am

I've confirmed with this account and my account, meaning I believe it's okay for me to post but I'm not sure.
If I get modkilled for posting without permission, then I lived a full life and played the best game I possibly could.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:17 am

Jesus fuck I love this avatar let's kill F-16 for drawing scum.

Vote: F-16

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #12 (isolation #2) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:17 am

Holy fuck look at my face
that's a god damn scowl

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:17 am

He's ashamed you're a filthy scumbag, F-16.
He's ashamed.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:18 am

In post 7, T S O wrote:hello borky!

Vote: Slainte Mhath

If you added an i to that name, it would mean good health in Irish ...but they didn't, so it doesn't. Scumfuck.

That was a really cool observation and I'm glad you pointed it out.
Thank you for educating me!

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #15 (isolation #5) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:18 am

F-16 Fighter Jets are airplanes commonly piloted by scumbags who are going to be lynched by a Cabd/Nacho hydra.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #17 (isolation #6) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:33 am

oh holy shit you actually are scum

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #18 (isolation #7) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:33 am

I'm impressed you were brave enough to actually post when you saw me: I've taught you well!

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #21 (isolation #8) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:35 am

In post 16, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Just in time to catch Nacho when he's online! Anyways I
wish
I drew scum in this game actually. It would have been pretty awesome to screw around with Nacho for once. Let's figure out what you drew.

VOTE: Trolling Fairy

You wish you drew scum in this game so you could manipulate me? I thought your greatest love was still being town with me: when did that change?
The "Let's figure out what you drew" acts like I haven't posted anything yet which I clearly have.
You've seen my obvious town trollfuck openings before, and this is clearly an obvious town trollfuck opening.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #23 (isolation #9) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:36 am

In post 19, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Read my post. Basically, I claimed town and I am amused that you don't see it.

You "claimed" town?
What does that even mean?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #25 (isolation #10) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:37 am

In post 22, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 20, borkjerfkin wrote:VOTE: f-16
This vote is borked up. Try again.

also bad puns won't free you from death, die, etc

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #27 (isolation #11) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:38 am

hey baby
i'm the king!

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #30 (isolation #12) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:40 am

"isn't unfakeable"

get out of my ireland

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #33 (isolation #13) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:44 am

In post 31, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Sure, you could have pre-planned it because it would look town. I lean town on you but we'll see soon enough and you can have my vote till then.

You've won my heart, congratulations.

Vote: penguin alien

Let's wagon her to L-2!

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #34 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:45 am

In post 32, T S O wrote:I'm still okay with my vote, Scots Gaelic is really bent compared to every other language.

I enjoyed the first information session but the second one lacked voting for scum.
Please make the proper adjustments.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #36 (isolation #15) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:49 am

In post 35, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:That was a pretty mediocre post actually. How the heck did
that
get you to back off?

You promised a vote.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #37 (isolation #16) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:49 am

And now you're not voting.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #40 (isolation #17) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:50 am

This makes me a very sad Nacho and kills my vibe and I swear to god if you kill my vibe I will policy lynch you.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #41 (isolation #18) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:51 am

In post 39, T S O wrote:if you can post a 7-word Irish sentence with perfect grammar which you don't rob off the Internet, I'll give you my vote.

can I phone a friend?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #42 (isolation #19) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:51 am

or teach me, jesus fuck
it's obvious I can't speak irish but it's also obvious i'm town and am voting scum so you shouldn't make me jump through hoops to win the game for town

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #43 (isolation #20) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:52 am

FUCK
I had a massive book of irish poetry that I read as a kid but I think it's at the frat so I can't grab it

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #52 (isolation #21) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:59 am

In post 46, borkjerfkin wrote:and why penguin? I've got an idea of people that generally react emotionally when wagoned early and she isn't on it

She's not on my list either.
No one else in this playerlist is on that list, 'cept F-16.
I'm wagonning her because I think trying to convince me not to lolwagon her into the ground will be pretty difficult for scumPA (who is dating my hydra partner btw).

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #55 (isolation #22) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:00 am

In post 45, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:you are town like I think, this game is a town win.

yep!
gg to everyone involved, please enjoy the ride while it lasts

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #56 (isolation #23) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:00 am

In post 54, T S O wrote:"Póg mo thóin, amadán óinseach bitseach madra"

ok sent now please sheep since bork isn't being my queen anymore

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #57 (isolation #24) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:01 am

fferyllt: I love that avatar

me: I really do too

it makes every game with this account a good game

Sent at 11:49 AM on Tuesday

me: "Póg mo thóin, amadán óinseach bitseach madra"

I copy pasted extra conversation to prove myself.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #63 (isolation #25) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:04 am

In post 58, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 56, Trolling Fairy wrote:ok sent now please sheep since bork isn't being my queen anymore
oh is that how that was supposed to go?

I feel we're a patriarchal society.
If I'm incorrect in assuming we're a patriarchal society, I'm a horrible person and I apologize, my queen (but it's mostly your fault for not reigning me in).
But yes, that's how it's supposed to go and instead you're calling me scum and not reveling in free town wins?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #65 (isolation #26) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:09 am

In post 62, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 52, Trolling Fairy wrote:
In post 46, borkjerfkin wrote:and why penguin? I've got an idea of people that generally react emotionally when wagoned early and she isn't on it
She's not on my list either.
No one else in this playerlist is on that list, 'cept F-16.
I'm wagonning her because I think trying to convince me not to lolwagon her into the ground will be pretty difficult for scumPA (who is dating my hydra partner btw).
And I didn't react emotionally in the slightest so why did you unvote me?

I wouldn't expect you to react emotionally to early game trolling: my early game approach is entirely looking for tone and forcing scum to interact in a friendly manner which is good for rooting out scum who are uncomfortable tonally (you, penguin). I don't expect to upset you by calling you scum when I don't have a reason to scumread you and obviously am not scumreading you. I don't mean to throw you off your game by bothering you.

I liked how you felt light early game! I like how you're seriously trying to still sort me while I clearly moved on from you and won't be worried about you for a little while!
I also like bork.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #67 (isolation #27) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:17 am

In post 66, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:What do you like about Bork?

He suspects both of us and I would find it strange if his opening move against the people who are going to control the game was to alienate himself from us. I dislike that he's not chucklefucking with me, though: I hoped with me playing similar to the way I play in IRC mafia it would inspire the "trolling, yet protown" feel we love so much.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #69 (isolation #28) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:21 am

"Kiss my ass fool bitch hound"?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #71 (isolation #29) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:25 am

In post 68, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 67, Trolling Fairy wrote:I dislike that he's not chucklefucking with me, though: I hoped with me playing similar to the way I play in IRC mafia it would inspire the "trolling, yet protown" feel we love so much.
I'm also sober, so there's that.

This should not be any kind of data outlier for you, tonewise from me, imo.

It isn't.
It's just not as gorgeously townie if you opened up chucklefucking with us and then got paranoid of us.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #88 (isolation #30) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:48 am

I kinda missed this account's avatar too, Nacho, DW.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #89 (isolation #31) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:49 am

The cool thing is penguin's totally out getting a hair cut, so we can probably obtain another sheep and make her do the L-1 dance by the time she gets back.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #91 (isolation #32) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:54 am

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART,

LISA

TSO!

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #102 (isolation #33) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:23 am

In post 98, rez wrote:Why are you posting not from your hydra? Were you just trying to say that you haven't made any posts yet? To what end?

An egopost is done so that this game thread appears in the "view your posts" button on my main account. That is how I keep current on my games. usually I slip one in on page one before anything serious begins, but the game started while I was asleep.

Code: Select all

http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?search_id=egosearch

Note the term "egosearch" there.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #147 (isolation #34) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:18 pm

In post 120, penguin_alien wrote:I doubt they expect an emotional reaction from me.

No Mrs. Bond, I expect you to CRY.

Officially amused as all get out. You're welcome to wagon me as long as this isn't a repeat of 1524's scumtastic D1 play from you. I'll just wait for you to figure out I'm town. Accidentally mislynch me in your zeal, win a pissy rant in the dead QT. Unless you're scum, then I'll just add it to the list of 'scum-Nacho rolls me' games.

You realize we're both such trolls that mislynching you while still being town is appealing if it ends up being that way too, riiight? it's literally right there in our name.

Um...does this means you'll use the right pronouns for me this game? Since I assume you now remember who I am?

Trufax, Penguin is female except on nights with a full moon.

Oh, this is going to go well...I might as well put my daily schedule info up here, eh, level the playing field? 'Dear Diary...'

Yeah you should probably just post your daily schedule in the scum thread so your buddy can cover for you while you're gone.

Fine, serious time.

SEEEEEEEERIOSULY?

So far F-16 feels pretty confident, more than I'd expect from him getting a scum PM.

No. Strike One.

I refuse to trust Nacho-Cabd this early even if this feels kind of like towny play from Nacho. Cabd, anyone putting stock in my ability to read him gets policy voted.

Easy way out, Strike Two. You're going to have to put on your big girl pants and actually hard-read us instead of giving a general disclaimer and walking away.

Although disappointed that they couldn't get their sheep in a row to slap together an L-1 wagon on me.

Not for lack of trying. Still working on it.

Not getting much from Kaze's posts so far. OTT fluff, meh. I remember his game as more relevant when we were masons together and in 1551.

Not even willing to type out 1531, I see. Kaze's allowed to read me, just outsource it to him within your scum topic with him.

(This is me saying both Penguin and Kaze look bad to me ATM)

Also hi beli. I am sad I don't get to do some fakeclaiming tracker/watcher guilty shenanigans to make you eat your hat in MYLO this time.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #148 (isolation #35) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:20 pm

In post 144, Slainte Mhath wrote:My hovercraft is full of eels.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #240 (isolation #36) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:51 am

I am not nacho but we had both discussed dunking the fuck out of kaze so you can assume our vote lies there.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #247 (isolation #37) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:06 am

Feels off in a way I can't place, like maya did day one in princess (that I should have acted upon)

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #249 (isolation #38) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:10 am

Wicked means I no longer give gladiators towncred.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #391 (isolation #39) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:44 pm

I managed to find a browser that had the password saved..... Still no clue what it is though, so I can only post from this.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #418 (isolation #40) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:58 am

In post 391, Trolling Fairy wrote:I managed to find a browser that had the password saved..... Still no clue what it is though, so I can only post from this.

I know the password and you know my cellphone number so...?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #419 (isolation #41) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:59 am

In post 385, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Meh, I don't feel like posting a response unless someone else wants it since it will basically be a repeat. I felt like some things in your posts rang townish somewhat, the appeal to Nacho, and the declaration of obvtownnes. But I feel like you are just shoveling arguments trying to "win" as opposed to see where I am coming from which is somewhat bothersome.

Bork is town and you should see that please don't be scum

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #420 (isolation #42) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:00 am

Insanity's fucking scum, boy would that have been a cool gladiate

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #421 (isolation #43) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:03 am

In post 305, borkjerfkin wrote:Kaze:
what are your non-TSO reads (I'm waiting for like the one time I catch you in a mood where you you decide not to blow me off for once)?

Slainte:

1) get your head in it (thought both heads were aware of gladiate by now?)
2) there is literally nothing in Insanity's ISO that at all strikes me as IIoA. Examples?

Nacho:
Where the fuck?

Laptop was stolen, again, getting another job, probably will be taking a hiatus from mafia soon because my absence from games has reached unacceptable points.
Sorry, Cabd.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #422 (isolation #44) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:04 am

In post 302, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I just feel really checked out of this game for a lot of reasons.

Kaze, I really don't agree with you using your gladiator role this early in the game and I feel it is too soon to develop reads. I had T S O as fairly town early on because from what I know of his meta, he tends to be somewhat serious as scum and more trolly as town and his initial posts gave me the trolly town type impression and his later deathtunneling gave me the impression of tunnely-town which he has done in Red Wine.

The one thing I feel confident about is you being obvtown so I'll vote T S O so we lynch someone not-Kaze but it feels frustrating to not be able to influence a lynch beyond a 1v1 and the way things are going, I feel like you are risking being mislynched unnecessarily because for whatever reason people actually belive that using a gladiate D1 is some sort of scum tactic. But anyways, I am not superconfident in T S O either way (and it doesn't matter and I'm not looking through those meta links because it is irrelevant at this point as I am not voting obvtown and only have one other choice) but let's hope you are right about him. If you do wind up lynched, I'll take a look through them later.

VOTE: T S O

It's not a scum tactic, sure. It's also not a town tactic?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #424 (isolation #45) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:05 am

I'm not going to vote and instead I'm just going to make fun of Kaze.
I guess I could policy lynch one of you two but I guess I will let Cabd handle that

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #425 (isolation #46) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:06 am

Maybe policy lynch people who gladiate obvious town? Not necessarily a bad plan!

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #426 (isolation #47) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:10 am

In post 362, Slainte Mhath wrote:
In post 357, Cabd wrote:As in the spear, Beli? Interesting.
It is also described as a jewel, hence the possibility that I am only discussing with Baezu.

I am currently afraid to use it, because Sidhe gifts are e'er double - edged and I think using it may well kill us. An there be non - Sidhe players, it may be more dangerous.

The Daoine are Mischievous as fuck. I know not if it would be wise to trust them.

Ffery mod style is never a style where she expects players to know an obscure flavor in order to better use their role. It's even less of a "let's give you something and not tell you what it does" style.

As such, this claim is a scum claim.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #427 (isolation #48) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:11 am

WHICH WE COULD LYNCH TODAY IF SOMEONE DIDNT BLOW THEIR LOAD

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #428 (isolation #49) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:11 am

VOTE: TROLLING FAIRY

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #429 (isolation #50) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:11 am

In post 423, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 421, Trolling Fairy wrote:Laptop was stolen, again
That really fucking sucks man. Sorry to hear.

I love you by the way, thanks for playing another game <3

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #430 (isolation #51) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:15 am

In post 349, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:1) This is a generic answer that looks good on the surface. It feels like something straight out of a mafia guide. "Don't consider interactions pre-flip." "Don't make associative tells before you know a person's alignment." But realistically, I don't believe you legitimately missed that we shared a scumread and aren't factoring it in. When two of your scumreads suspect each other, or one suspects the other, it makes people take a step back and question what's going on. You can't operate in a vacuum where all your reads are indepedent and it feels more your reads are ones of convenience.

2) I feel that incomprehensible thought processes often come from scum. If you are scumreading Penguin and I am too, the natural reaction would be to consider why it is the case. You certainly considered the fact that Penguin was townreading me as a reason that she was scum. I did too. Why didn't it make you question your scumread on me when I too called her out for giving me an easy pass?

3) This point is incomprehensible so I am just going to add gibberish to make it seem like I responded to it. Gibberish, bullshit, fluff, puff, nothingness, words, words, words, more of Bork's bullshit, rubbish, shoehorned, scumreads.

I see you telling Bork that his thought process in unbelievable and unnatural and as a result not true: I don't think that's a fair claim to make. When people said that your breakdown seemed fake, when mastin's breakdown seemed fake, it was because they didn't understand a difference in how thoughts are processed and not because they had anything even remotely like a point.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #434 (isolation #52) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:40 am

In post 432, borkjerfkin wrote:You think it's Slainte/Insanity?

I do.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #436 (isolation #53) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:47 am

Seeing him post about you makes me pretty sad in general, honestly.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #437 (isolation #54) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:50 am

I also don't like how he essentially said that he wasn't going to try for the first game day because he was going to lynch town either way.
And I don't like how he hasn't reached out to me despite having a town read on me OR showed any signs of that town read disintegrating.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #438 (isolation #55) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:53 am

Actually it might just be Slainthe/F-16.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #440 (isolation #56) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:55 am

Generally when I die Night 1, it's a good indicator that I'm town.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #441 (isolation #57) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:55 am

Do you get my point about ffery mod meta yet?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #445 (isolation #58) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:59 am

In post 443, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 441, Trolling Fairy wrote:Do you get my point about ffery mod meta yet?
I get the gist - she's generally pretty by the book as far as abilities go.

I don't really see what their game is with the item thing either way. It's not something I'd think to fabricate as scum.

You wouldn't, but I would because generally "I have a special power" is generally regarded as a town thing to say. Better yet, a special ability that he's afraid to use so he will not have fear of being tracked/making up something for it to do? Perfection.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #454 (isolation #59) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:33 am

In post 448, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 419, Trolling Fairy wrote:
In post 385, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Meh, I don't feel like posting a response unless someone else wants it since it will basically be a repeat. I felt like some things in your posts rang townish somewhat, the appeal to Nacho, and the declaration of obvtownnes. But I feel like you are just shoveling arguments trying to "win" as opposed to see where I am coming from which is somewhat bothersome.
Bork is town and you should see that please don't be scum
Uh, why is he town? Why are you only telling me Bork is town, it feels like the same stuff you pulled with Tammy when you were telling her I was town.

In post 449, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 422, Trolling Fairy wrote:It's not a scum tactic, sure. It's also not a town tactic?
Kaze is town and you should see that, please don't be scum. I am actually serious. Are you seriously considering Kaze scum here?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #458 (isolation #60) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:37 am

In post 454, Trolling Fairy wrote:
In post 448, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 419, Trolling Fairy wrote:
In post 385, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Meh, I don't feel like posting a response unless someone else wants it since it will basically be a repeat. I felt like some things in your posts rang townish somewhat, the appeal to Nacho, and the declaration of obvtownnes. But I feel like you are just shoveling arguments trying to "win" as opposed to see where I am coming from which is somewhat bothersome.
Bork is town and you should see that please don't be scum
Uh, why is he town? Why are you only telling me Bork is town, it feels like the same stuff you pulled with Tammy when you were telling her I was town.

In post 449, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 422, Trolling Fairy wrote:It's not a scum tactic, sure. It's also not a town tactic?
Kaze is town and you should see that, please don't be scum. I am actually serious. Are you seriously considering Kaze scum here?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #460 (isolation #61) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:40 am

I have a town read. You disagree with that town read, and am pushing on that town read, and I am unhappy as a result. I express this in thread.

You have a town read. You think I disagree with that town read (although I explicitly said that I did agree with that town read), have an identical reaction, and suddenly I'm white knighting town bork?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #461 (isolation #62) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:40 am

I understand paranoia (in fact, I love seeing paranoia in other players). But you're currently scum reading me/paranoia'ing me over town reading town?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #462 (isolation #63) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:43 am

If I understood your bork read better, I would have attacked it more. I did respond a little bit (you didn't address or acknowledge my response), so asking me to do more is a bit confusing.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #463 (isolation #64) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:43 am

And saying bork is town is all I've done when I've also presented scumspects and other strong town reads is also strange and I don't like it.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #465 (isolation #65) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:49 am

I don't want to lynch either of them.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #466 (isolation #66) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:50 am

I figured that was painfully obvious in earlier posting, but I can reiterate it again: I don't want to lynch either of them.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #468 (isolation #67) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:51 am

There's a less than 100% chance of Kaze being town.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #471 (isolation #68) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:01 am

In post 470, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:You are kidding, right?

I need to sleep and would prefer you acting more town before I do so.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #472 (isolation #69) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:01 am

In post 464, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I am not scumreading you (not yet anyways) or paranoid of you, but considering the possibility that you could be scum. I don't have a strong read either way. Whether you are town or scum, I'll see it in time.

Your conversation with Bork felt like you were manipulating him and posturing against me. Your conversation with me also felt like you were posturing against me while trying to get Bork on your side.

You even considering lynching Kaze feels off because he's 100% town here. You are asking why town-Kaze would use a gladiate D1. The answer is obvious. He had a scumread and he wants him dead. Kaze is impulsive and sometimes abrasive. It matches with his playstyle to a T. Kaze doesn't like waiting for scum to get lynched. He is impatient as fuck and would end days as soon as he has a scumread if it is up to him. Scum-Kaze wouldn't blow the gladiator and lock himself in when there is no way out and remove the possibility of a deadline compromise mislynch. I assume scum will play the role like Mastin did in Anything Goes or like Malakittens did in Wicked. It would come across as calculated, not impulsive and they'd want to make sure that they would win.

These don't answer anything that I asked you.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #475 (isolation #70) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:19 am

In post 469, Slainte Mhath wrote:Awesome! Scum team insanity/F16. Gg

Thanks nacho! <3

Rez/You.
You're welcome.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #477 (isolation #71) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:38 am

In post 430, Trolling Fairy wrote:
In post 349, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:1) This is a generic answer that looks good on the surface. It feels like something straight out of a mafia guide. "Don't consider interactions pre-flip." "Don't make associative tells before you know a person's alignment." But realistically, I don't believe you legitimately missed that we shared a scumread and aren't factoring it in. When two of your scumreads suspect each other, or one suspects the other, it makes people take a step back and question what's going on. You can't operate in a vacuum where all your reads are indepedent and it feels more your reads are ones of convenience.

2) I feel that incomprehensible thought processes often come from scum. If you are scumreading Penguin and I am too, the natural reaction would be to consider why it is the case. You certainly considered the fact that Penguin was townreading me as a reason that she was scum. I did too. Why didn't it make you question your scumread on me when I too called her out for giving me an easy pass?

3) This point is incomprehensible so I am just going to add gibberish to make it seem like I responded to it. Gibberish, bullshit, fluff, puff, nothingness, words, words, words, more of Bork's bullshit, rubbish, shoehorned, scumreads.
I see you telling Bork that his thought process in unbelievable and unnatural and as a result not true: I don't think that's a fair claim to make. When people said that your breakdown seemed fake, when mastin's breakdown seemed fake, it was because they didn't understand a difference in how thoughts are processed and not because they had anything even remotely like a point.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #484 (isolation #72) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:54 am

Your objective is to derail a mislynch into another mislynch.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #486 (isolation #73) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:55 am

Kaze, as town, gladiated another person who is also town.
My priorities are... getting one town person lynched over the other? No, not really.
My priorities are... stopping you before you start a stupid tunnel and can focus energies elsewhere? Better!

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #487 (isolation #74) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:56 am

In post 485, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Because Kaze didn't give me any other choice.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the point.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #488 (isolation #75) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:56 am

In post 486, Trolling Fairy wrote:Kaze, as town, gladiated another person who is also town.
My priorities are... getting one town person lynched over the other? No, not really.
My priorities are... stopping you before you start a stupid tunnel and can focus energies elsewhere? Better!

Especially when the person in question is so town that pushing him is suspicious.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #492 (isolation #76) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:59 am

In post 489, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:In that case, why aren't you trying to stop Bork from getting into a stupid tunnel?

This was a bad line of questioning in Tales and it's a bad line of questioning now.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #493 (isolation #77) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:59 am

In post 491, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:He may be town. You acting like he is "so town that pushing him is suspicious" is kind of a stretch.

That is my read on Bork, who I can read fine.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #514 (isolation #78) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:49 pm

In post 489, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:In that case, why aren't you trying to stop Bork from getting into a stupid tunnel?

Your suspicion on Bork is based for reasons I don't understand, which in turn, made me suspicious of you until recently.
Bork' suspicion on you is based on your suspicion on him, which I understand because it's what had me doubting you in the first place.

So, it makes more sense for me to focus on your suspicion of him than his suspicion of you.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #516 (isolation #79) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:54 pm

In post 500, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 497, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 494, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:He could be scum. I don't know. I hope he is. The only thing I am sure of is that I don't want to lynch someone I am 100% sure is town.
Nacho is townreading them both, so I don't see the scum motivation you're attributing to his voting Kaze, and your attribution of scum motivation on Nacho for going after Kaze would make more sense if you had more of a suspicion on TSO than "well he's not Kaze and I have to vote one of them"
Um, you are either terrible at this game, amazingly easy to manipulate or scum. You are stretching every argument to support Nacho's viewpoint.

What points is he stretching in particular?
The only mistake I see he made is me voting Kaze (I haven't voted), but that isn't stretching every argument to support me.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #658 (isolation #80) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:38 pm

I'm sleeping in tomorrow, have fancy dinner tonight where i get to eat pretty much nothing and watch, hammering now.

Fuck you, kaze, for gladiating, either way.

VOTE: TSO

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #674 (isolation #81) » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:02 am

I only get two posts and one of them has to be poetry shit so nacho gets to do that one unless it's a prod dodge haiku. P_A just basically claimed she gave it to me, so you all can weigh if you think town PR-giver AND town messenger exist in the same setup. I'll be busy policy lynching her because I fucking hate poetry~ There's another component to it as well so make sure to let me get in the required posts after that before we lynch her, lest we get deaded or vote-stolen yada yada.

VOTE: P_A

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #728 (isolation #82) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:48 am

Timeless, drifting, singing
Dependence, despondency, disappointment

Planes scream valiantly through the night sky
They can play the same war games, but they cannot demonstrate what they've learned

Murderers remain silent
Guilt is a weight that a parlor trick cannot lift

Giftgivers continue to bear gifts of boredom
Maybe they aren't naive and everyone else is cynical
But the dark edge of the world disgrees

Fluffy, freezing, beacon of light
I move to kill when I know it's not right

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #801 (isolation #83) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:55 am

rah rah rah rabble rabble rabble

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #830 (isolation #84) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:50 am

We become voteless for tomorrow, IE if we mislynch today, scum wins tomorrow since town only has 2 votes. So yeah. You just shut up and sit pretty and let me make these stupid fucking posts. I dunno why penguin is claiming we only have to do one, because we have to do a BUNCH.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #831 (isolation #85) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:51 am

We have to do at least 3 (nacho did one so two now?) other posts or we become voteless tomorrow AND it says other bad things may occur so yeah, it's important we get through this.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #832 (isolation #86) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:52 am

That's why I voted penguin, FTR. Her claim does not match up with what we were told we have to do.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #835 (isolation #87) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:56 am

Not a gambit. Dead fucking serious, and I haaaaaaaate poetry in all its forms.

One in our opening two posts (That had to be related to the flavor) , and another three about either the game or the flavor before day 2's end.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #836 (isolation #88) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:57 am

In post 674, Trolling Fairy wrote:I only get two posts and one of them has to be poetry shit so nacho gets to do that one unless it's a prod dodge haiku. P_A just basically claimed she gave it to me, so you all can weigh if you think town PR-giver AND town messenger exist in the same setup. I'll be busy policy lynching her because I fucking hate poetry~
There's another component to it as well so make sure to let me get in the required posts after that
before we lynch her, lest we get deaded or vote-stolen yada yada.

VOTE: P_A

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #837 (isolation #89) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:58 am

We have three days, and I'll make the needed posts tonight (cali time) after work. Then we can do whatever.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #839 (isolation #90) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:02 am

Unless nacho made any while I was at anime expo, yes.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #840 (isolation #91) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:08 pm

I am a radiant beast, my light burns bright enough to raze the world and leave nothing in its wake but my skill is great enough where my light only helps the blind see.

My strength is great, primal, and it detests weakness. My very presence gives the weak hope, and my expectations are a burden upon them that makes them stronger.

Follow me into the darkness, for darkness cannot exist in my presence and you will be a pioneer in the new worlds I discover. Follow me where there is pain and suffering for I am greedy and aim to make all of the world's pain and suffering my own.

My will is an unstoppable force and an immovable object: I cannot be moved even as the rest of the world is shoved out if my way.

I have few enemies, for those who were my enemies have since been eradicated, with the last of them insignificant flies that buzz around my head but aren't worth the time to swap.

Those who surpass me are simply milestones: when I leave from this world, I will leave from the top of the highest mountains and I will leave the world alone. But even when I leave, my ideals, my power, my strength will continue in those who love me and those who are raised by me: the only ones capable of surpassing my final form are the ones who are born from my body and soul.

The only thing I lack is competition: what will you do to keep pace with me? What hidden forces will you draw on so you can follow me into greatness? Do you have the strength to leave your desires behind, to overcome your natural limitations and break the bonds that weren't meant to be broken? Or will you simply be among the countless observers, wishing upon the shooting star instead of willing upon it?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #841 (isolation #92) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:17 pm

In post 820, Kazekirimaru wrote:Considering the jewel spear obviously grants a passive -something- for one night I'm a bit skeptical of F-16 claiming a protective role partially. I thought for sure the artefact was protective. It makes sense. :/

I'm only here to write poetry and would be unhappy if there was a lynch before I got to comment, but this is possibly the worst reasoning I've ever seen. Please explain where your thought process was coming from with this.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #842 (isolation #93) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:17 pm

Breaking bonds is death
Hold onto me, don't let go
Together we live

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #844 (isolation #94) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:22 pm

Given you won't catch me (cabd) dead writing poetry, yes, that was nacho.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #845 (isolation #95) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:24 pm

The old man from space got blood on his face
While with a lady who was not from his race
What can I say
If he's not a gay
Especially since he still went to third base

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #846 (isolation #96) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:26 pm

The first poem is about trolling fairy as a hydra in general and us being generally the best around and not to be ignored and telling everyone everything is going to be okay if they just follow us, so that's game related.

The second poem is about F-16 and i's bond and how we need to reaffirm it because I felt like he was ignoring it later and stopped treating me like a friend and instead a scum suspect which led to a shut down in thought (which has changed recently it seems but I haven't been reading so screw me).

The third poem is just a dirty limerick where the fourth line should have been "as long as he's gay"

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #847 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:27 pm

So I guess that might not be game related.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #848 (isolation #98) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:27 pm

In post 728, Trolling Fairy wrote:Timeless, drifting, singing
Dependence, despondency, disappointment

Planes scream valiantly through the night sky
They can play the same war games, but they cannot demonstrate what they've learned

Murderers remain silent
Guilt is a weight that a parlor trick cannot lift

Giftgivers continue to bear gifts of boredom
Maybe they aren't naive and everyone else is cynical
But the dark edge of the world disgrees

Fluffy, freezing, beacon of light
I move to kill when I know it's not right

In post 840, Trolling Fairy wrote:I am a radiant beast, my light burns bright enough to raze the world and leave nothing in its wake but my skill is great enough where my light only helps the blind see.

My strength is great, primal, and it detests weakness. My very presence gives the weak hope, and my expectations are a burden upon them that makes them stronger.

Follow me into the darkness, for darkness cannot exist in my presence and you will be a pioneer in the new worlds I discover. Follow me where there is pain and suffering for I am greedy and aim to make all of the world's pain and suffering my own.

My will is an unstoppable force and an immovable object: I cannot be moved even as the rest of the world is shoved out if my way.

I have few enemies, for those who were my enemies have since been eradicated, with the last of them insignificant flies that buzz around my head but aren't worth the time to swap.

Those who surpass me are simply milestones: when I leave from this world, I will leave from the top of the highest mountains and I will leave the world alone. But even when I leave, my ideals, my power, my strength will continue in those who love me and those who are raised by me: the only ones capable of surpassing my final form are the ones who are born from my body and soul.

The only thing I lack is competition: what will you do to keep pace with me? What hidden forces will you draw on so you can follow me into greatness? Do you have the strength to leave your desires behind, to overcome your natural limitations and break the bonds that weren't meant to be broken? Or will you simply be among the countless observers, wishing upon the shooting star instead of willing upon it?

In post 842, Trolling Fairy wrote:Breaking bonds is death
Hold onto me, don't let go
Together we live

In post 845, Trolling Fairy wrote:The old man from space got blood on his face
While with a lady who was not from his race
What can I say
If he's not a gay
Especially since he still went to third base

cool that's 1 plus 3, voteless we are not. Lynch away once I catch up and bless it.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #849 (isolation #99) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:29 pm

asking ffery to confirm we're good

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:32 pm

Oh Kaze,
How could your reasoning for disbelieving a protective role be so bad?
You have absolutely no idea what the spear does
Your baseless assumptions, they make me sad
Slainthe, while operating on faulty logic already, at least had some sort of something
But you have no sort of nothing, which hurts my soul
Could you be making this push as scum?

Oh Kaze,
You are better than to make me think "too dumb to be scum"?
You are a strong enough player to analyze the game and make sense
But it seems there's a handle of Captain Morgan in your hand and rum is making you dumb

Oh Kaze,
Come back to me.
Make me believe in love again.

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:34 pm

I'd like to process the game to see how I view things 20 pages from where I last had good reads. Will you wait for me?

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:35 pm

(I don't see ffery just copying the artifact mechanic from the first SUPREME empking game, if that was the line of thought, btw, just poking my head in here)

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:36 pm

No, I'm headed to work.

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:39 pm

Where cabd-head is already at work! ffery confirmed we're good to go, so give us 24 hours to finish up and synch, then we can have blood for the blood gods.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:12 pm

In post 857, Trolling Fairy wrote:Where cabd-head is already at work! ffery confirmed we're good to go, so give us 24 hours to finish up and synch, then we can have blood for the blood gods.

Hahahhahaha this was ambitious

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:17 pm

In post 98, rez wrote:
unvote

In post 85, Cabd wrote:egoposting, a bit late but eh

Why are you posting not from your hydra? Were you just trying to say that you haven't made any posts yet? To what end?

In post 93, Slainte Mhath wrote:TSO, I like your new avatar! And your fun-loving attitude!

-baezu

Why are you not posting anything about anything?

F16 vs trolling fairy:
If either of them are scum it's f16.

In post 51, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Beli head of Slainte Mhath.

Slainte mhath isn't a hydra.

I don't like the questioning of Cabd: I cannot see where "why are you not posting from your hydra?" returns any sort of moderately useful result, even in the minds of the most warped and most batshit insane players on this side of the Mississippi. I can, however, see scum doing scum busywork things.

The Slainte isn't a hydra thing is also strange for the simple reason that there wasn't really any evidence to suggest they weren't (especially when F-16 was referring to a specific head of the hydra), so a small paranoid voice in the back of my head calls this distancing between his scum buddy.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:21 pm

Rez side of interactions with insanity also don't really exist so maybe scum partners there.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:30 pm

In post 809, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:You are right. If I get killed, you won't know who I cleared. I am not sure whether I want to declare in thread who I plan to use my role on because if I am targeting town, scum could always withhold a kill to get us to mislynch. On the other hand, if I believe that scum will want to pass on targeting me because of the suspicion on me, it is better that I don't declare in thread who I am targeting. I haven't decided yet what's the best course of action. What I really want to focus on is to lynch scum today. That'll make my role more effective because if there are two scum alive tonight, I not only have to target scum, but I have to target the
right
scum and it would be a matter of luck and I'd rather not have that.

I have trouble seeing which of Kaze/Slainte/JP are town since I've seen things from all of them that I feel could come from scum easily. Kaze is the one I was certain was town D1 but I am no longer sure.

If you target town and scum no kill, then we get a free lynch on someone who we were probably going to kill anyways + you get another block

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:30 pm

Declaring is by far the optimal move, considering its a roleblock

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:33 pm

In post 860, penguin_alien wrote:Fucking hell. I'm sorry, I missed the part about the extra three poems. I thought it was just the one. FWIW, I can only use it on any player once per game.

I don't like Xayzeck or Justin very much, but a quick skim has me liking Justin less.

Also, it's over now, so I can say that part of my town vibe from F-16 was feeling a similarity of thought pattern between here and his play in our town hydra in Fantasy Camp. Will elaborate when time allows...

And I don't think scum penguin does this.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:34 pm

Okay we're gonna lynch justin and block Slainthe!

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:36 pm

In post 869, Trolling Fairy wrote:
In post 860, penguin_alien wrote:Fucking hell. I'm sorry, I missed the part about the extra three poems. I thought it was just the one. FWIW, I can only use it on any player once per game.

I don't like Xayzeck or Justin very much, but a quick skim has me liking Justin less.

Also, it's over now, so I can say that part of my town vibe from F-16 was feeling a similarity of thought pattern between here and his play in our town hydra in Fantasy Camp. Will elaborate when time allows...

And I don't think scum penguin does this.

Yeah but I'm still all butthurt about it because poetry.

Also I'm not quite sure what the pro-town reasoning was for targeting us with it as opposed to potentially removing a vote from her scumreads?

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:45 pm

That's a bad point because the potential only exists if her scum reads are too dumb to compose a haiku.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:45 pm

Aka her role is pretty much entirely useless, and what do you do with useless roles?
Troll.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #879 (isolation #115) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:00 pm

Yeah nacho's probably right but I'm still gonna be butthurt about it.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #881 (isolation #116) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:53 pm

No, we insist on trolling you more first.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #883 (isolation #117) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:57 pm

That was mostly a joke. But only mostly. Also nacho left so we can only talk via texting back and forth atm; so if there's anything else you want, let me know like now.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #884 (isolation #118) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:58 pm

In post 875, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I am going to kick myself in postgame if you mimiced my reads because "F-16 loves it when people see the game the same way he does."

But you had those reads before I did so I'm optimistic.

Yeah but will you kick yourself when it turns out we're town (we are) and we did that anyways to fuck with your head?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #887 (isolation #119) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:00 pm

Because I want to see a video of you kicking yourself since you're too uncool to go to meets/cons

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #888 (isolation #120) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:01 pm

UNVOTE:

VOTE: justin

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #889 (isolation #121) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:01 pm

BTW nacho writes that kaze is so town because scum kaze would be using the apathy and day one for results not just being a mopefuck.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #892 (isolation #122) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:04 pm

Yes he saw that post and said to tell you to hold out your wrists so we can slap them.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #896 (isolation #123) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:11 pm

To be fair I actually was gonna vote the shit out of you to make you miserable but nacho said not to.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #897 (isolation #124) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:11 pm

Did he already claim? let the scum use their fakeclaim please.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #898 (isolation #125) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:11 pm

(If it's not those two nacho says maybe xay)

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #904 (isolation #126) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:20 pm

Falcon, you're no fun. Let him beetlejuice back. Wait... If he was last active four days ago, was he prodded? And if so, why isn't he being replaced? Check with ffery, maybe he posted in the scum topic to clear his prod.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #905 (isolation #127) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:20 pm

..ooooor not, ok then. See you guys on the other side one way or another?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #906 (isolation #128) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:21 pm

here she comes, to deliver yet another to their grave

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #907 (isolation #129) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:21 pm

ninjapost before lock?

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #908 (isolation #130) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:21 pm

wooot spammming

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #909 (isolation #131) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:21 pm

she'll stop this soon enough

Trolling Fairy · Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:44 am

Pretend there's a witty comeback here, I can't be assed. It pretty much has to be beli or xay. I don''t see scum-penguin fucking up her post restriction shit by claiming only half her resulting affliction. Falcon seems pretty town. Every time I think it could be kaze, nacho kicks my shins.

Trolling Fairy · Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:52 am

I value my shins, so please talk to nacho if you want to lynch kaze. Actually TBQH i'm pretty checked out of this game except for my penguin read, so.

I would appreciate the last scum just claiming so that penguin and I can discuss the game when I get to chicago this time tomorrow , please and thanks.

Trolling Fairy · Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:53 am

(Well actually i'll be on the plane this time tomorrow but you get my point)

Trolling Fairy · Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:47 pm

In post 945, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:All right, so we have four players besides me and Beli alive at this point. Let's consider how each of the remaining four players win the game if they are scum. Last night, they had two options: Kill me. No kill.

If Kaze is scum, I'd block him tonight and when there is a no kill, we lynch him. So, not killing me last night would be a losing strategy for Kaze unless he thinks that he can convince us that just like Beli, he too would flip town. His other option would be to kill me. That would leave {Kaze, Xay, TF, Penguin, with Beli as conftown}. Would Kaze get lynched here? I don't know. Xay is the only one who is really pushing him. Nacho and Beli would push Xay and with Kaze's vote, that'll be three and Xay gets lynched. Then Kaze kills Beli leaving a TF/Kaze/Penguin LYLO. It sucks for him but perhaps he could convince Cabd to push the suspicion of Penguin. It is winnable. Therefore I think scum-Kaze would have killed me last night.

Let's say Xay is scum and he no killed last night. We lynch Beli. Then I block Kaze. He does what? The best option is to no kill again and let Kaze get lynched. Then he nightkills me after my shots are used up. That leaves Xay, Penguin, TF LYLO. Is it ideal for him. I don't think so. He could leave me alive in LYLO both for paranoia purposes or to endgame me based on my misread of him. The other option for Xay is to kill me last night. That would leave him with Penguin, Kaze, Beli, and TF. He would be the one that would get lynched. So, no kill is the best option for Xay. (I still have a pretty strong townread on him though so I don't think this is the case).

I want to head out for a bit so I'll do TF/Penguin when I get back.

Vote: Slainthe Mhath

Block us if you're paranoid of us. I doubt you'll get the chance.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #959 (isolation #136) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:08 pm

Notsci, sheep me! F-16 promised to block me tonight if the person I'm voting flips town which is pretty much suicide for scum Nacho thus I'm town thus you should vote the person I'm voting.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #960 (isolation #137) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:08 pm

And hurry, time is short because I don't have much patience.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #978 (isolation #138) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:26 am

In post 977, notscience wrote:this would have been so muhc easier had someone said

"hey there ns you shining pinnacle of town you, F-16 blocked someone and there was no kill"

I said this in my own special way, but I wanted you to reach this conclusion yourself.

Trolling Fairy · Post Post #979 (isolation #139) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:27 am

Now we have to see how long it takes F-16 to reach this conclusion!

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:11 pm

P_A's on a plane here in like two hours, and it's super not okay to talk about or really play the game while chilling together IRL, so nacho's running this slot today and hopefully the game ends today if not, then uh, once she leaves I guess?

Trolling Fairy · Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:11 am

In post 990, notscience wrote:actually

wait a min

UNVOTE:

I'm a 1 shot bp gladiator

I don't think anyone would have shot me but I'm getting that out there

Ok cool I guess I still don't care

Trolling Fairy · Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:12 am

Let's lynch Slainte and block me so we can either win today or we become confirmed town and win tomorrow

Trolling Fairy · Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:13 am

Or we could lynch me because it would be hilarious and block Slainte because he continues to be as close to confirmed scum as possible.

Trolling Fairy · Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:15 am

In post 987, Slainte Mhath wrote:
In post 980, notscience wrote:Personally, I'm waiting for the 180 by SM on me for an opportunistic vote

You're going to be waiting one hell of a long time, then.

I want Trolling Fairy dead. Nobody else. Just TF.

I actually thought your vote on me was a hammer for a min and I still don't think you're scum.

WOAH THIS IS SO TOWN
WOAAAHHHHHH

Trolling Fairy · Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:15 am

I'm breathless. I'm without breath because I have never seen such a display of townies in my entire life.

Trolling Fairy · Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:35 am

In post 1012, Xayzeck wrote:sigh

you guys are making this so hard

lynch SM

lynch nacho

it's so simple

if nacho doesn't make it to tomorrow, find someone else

This is good minus the whole I'm confirmed town if blocked thing but hey, no one would be complaining if you were actually voting SM.

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:33 am

F-16, who did you block last night?

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:42 am

Had a breakthrough here (cabdhalf) and will post it tonight, but I think it explains what just happened as far as the non-optimal play.

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:42 pm

In post 1049, Cabd wrote:Hint: something clicked and I think my lover might be trying to kill us.

In post 1050, Cabd wrote:I'm also gonna wave around like I'm confirmed town because no scumcabd worth his salt DOESNT submit the kill on the off chance I wasn't blocked, don't mind me.

In post 1052, Cabd wrote:Go over your meta docs on me and tell me you think I wouldn't have submitted a kill on you and thought I'd be able to talk my way into a win here. Go on, try.

In post 1054, Cabd wrote:I just said. I think it's penguin after all, and i'll explain when I'm home. Basically she's the only one I can see having a reason to make a vastly suboptimal play here.

In post 1057, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 675, penguin_alien wrote::rolls eyes:

You have to get that 'poetry shit' in within your first two posts. You can post all you'd like after that. And unless it's a really good haiku might I suggest making Nacho put some effort into it. Prod dodging for it won't have bad effects, but don't make me have wasted my role, please and thank you. (Fine, I was amused too, but you were in my not-scum reads and unlikely to die overnight given your D1 activity, so two birds/one stone)

Slainte, tell me about insanity. She's in my lynch pool, but then that describes half the player list, so.

I'll go with the one I wanted yesterday for now.

VOTE: rez

Care to take some useful stances today?
In post 717, penguin_alien wrote:Still thinking town-Kaze. I'm still leaning town on F-16 although the level to which he's dissecting his own meta makes me paranoid. But he's not wrong, and I think this would be majorly ballsy play from him as scum. Which doesn't fit; I could see him keeping it up for a game day, but given his Wicked success I'd expect more minor tweaks to his play than a fullout overhaul.

Trolling Fairy is town at this point because scum-Cabd would be all psyched to have fooled me to the point where I gave him a potential advantage in the game. Instead he's disconnected. So I assume he's legit annoyed at the conditions of the opportunity and such, which isn't characteristic of his scum game.

So I'm still down to {rez, insanity018, Slainte}. My problem is that if F-16 is right that both scum wouldn't push his lynch in concert, there has to be a partner out there, and I'm not sure Slainte makes sense as that partner.

I think the insanity018 slot has weaker pushes than rez after today.
I don't like rez's arguments, but at least he's making them.
insanity018 just spent a lot of time supposedly being confused, which makes a great cover for doing nothing. And I don't think anything's been that confusing. Complicated and unfortunate, yes, but the confusing thing is weak.

VOTE: insanity018

L-1. And yes, I realize that some poor replacement is going to be jumping into this likely scum slot at L-1, but I think that's a good thing in this case.

The bolded. Penguin, what do you mean by this?

Picking these up for my ISO

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:48 pm

In post 1058, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 1056, Cabd wrote:I'll casewall when I get home etc etc but it makes sense because she has another motive to make the suboptimal play of letting town get another mislynch. Tales gave her revenge on everybody except one player (hi) for a certain mini 1531.

You mean me, NotScience, and Beli? Sure. But she can still win against town-you by nightkilling you so why would she specifically gear it towards mislynching you if revenge is what she wants?

Let's say, falcon, that you really respected a player, and in fact, were now dating them in real life. Now let's say that you two had mutually agreed to avoid playing in each other's games just so there were no ethics questions. And then let's say you draw scum against them when they had previously humiliated you by getting you to claim them as your mason partner when they were scum, and got teased about it all the time. I dunno about you, but I sure as hell'd make it my own person wincon to get that person mislynched BEFORE I won.

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:21 pm

(well, all you've got to do is start dating her! rumor has it she's single!)

Trolling Fairy · Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:24 pm

("she" being tammy obv, penguin's taken)

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:50 am

In post 1048, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Waived. Will post later. I wanted to confirm that scum are fucking with us and save my shot.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:54 am

Falcon, if I were scum last night I would have shot you.
And I would have earned a free win because you didn't announce your target and you never said "nope, not following that plan". The reason it's optimal to announce your target beforehand when there is one scum left is because it either A) forces mafia not to kill, or B) nets confirmed town. Had you died last night, you would have created a false confirmed town.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:57 am

In post 860, penguin_alien wrote:Fucking hell. I'm sorry, I missed the part about the extra three poems. I thought it was just the one.
FWIW, I can only use it on any player once per game.

I don't like Xayzeck or Justin very much, but a quick skim has me liking Justin less.

Also, it's over now, so I can say that part of my town vibe from F-16 was feeling a similarity of thought pattern between here and his play in our town hydra in Fantasy Camp. Will elaborate when time allows...

I read this post last night when Cabd said suspicions and it left me confused. Penguin, did you lie about your number of shots for gambit purposes? Because that's the best town motivation I can think of after a full day of thought and it's not really the most stable ground to stand on.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:59 am

In post 1053, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Okay, let's say I block NS or Penguin. Killing would not confirm anyone but not killing would set them up as a mislynch. So, I guess either way works really. Still trying to consider all the possibilities. Maybe later.

Who is scum?

Why would need to set them up as a mislynch when getting a kill through is one less guaranteed mislynch AND we are fake confirmed town?

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:59 am

In post 956, Trolling Fairy wrote:
In post 945, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:All right, so we have four players besides me and Beli alive at this point. Let's consider how each of the remaining four players win the game if they are scum. Last night, they had two options: Kill me. No kill.

If Kaze is scum, I'd block him tonight and when there is a no kill, we lynch him. So, not killing me last night would be a losing strategy for Kaze unless he thinks that he can convince us that just like Beli, he too would flip town. His other option would be to kill me. That would leave {Kaze, Xay, TF, Penguin, with Beli as conftown}. Would Kaze get lynched here? I don't know. Xay is the only one who is really pushing him. Nacho and Beli would push Xay and with Kaze's vote, that'll be three and Xay gets lynched. Then Kaze kills Beli leaving a TF/Kaze/Penguin LYLO. It sucks for him but perhaps he could convince Cabd to push the suspicion of Penguin. It is winnable. Therefore I think scum-Kaze would have killed me last night.

Let's say Xay is scum and he no killed last night. We lynch Beli. Then I block Kaze. He does what? The best option is to no kill again and let Kaze get lynched. Then he nightkills me after my shots are used up. That leaves Xay, Penguin, TF LYLO. Is it ideal for him. I don't think so. He could leave me alive in LYLO both for paranoia purposes or to endgame me based on my misread of him. The other option for Xay is to kill me last night. That would leave him with Penguin, Kaze, Beli, and TF. He would be the one that would get lynched. So, no kill is the best option for Xay. (I still have a pretty strong townread on him though so I don't think this is the case).

I want to head out for a bit so I'll do TF/Penguin when I get back.

Vote: Slainthe Mhath

Block us if you're paranoid of us. I doubt you'll get the chance.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:00 am

In post 959, Trolling Fairy wrote:Notsci, sheep me! F-16 promised to block me tonight if the person I'm voting flips town which is pretty much suicide for scum Nacho thus I'm town thus you should vote the person I'm voting.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:01 am

In post 1008, Trolling Fairy wrote:Let's lynch Slainte and block me so we can either win today or we become confirmed town and win tomorrow

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:04 am

OK OK I'll stop but seriously a kill going through last night for scum us is the best thing that could have ever happened for scum anywhere ever so obviously we don't fail to submit a kill.

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:19 am

You think it's unsporting to no kill...? Why?

Trolling Fairy · Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:19 am

Do you think it's unsporting to no lynch?

Trolling Fairy · Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:55 pm

You wanna know how I know you're scum, penguin?

You're doing that thing you do.

You know, when you have a surprise you're keeping from me.

But in this game? Only scum is keeping surprises right now.

Nacho's with me on this one. This is the game plan: Lynch us then penguin, or just get the game over with and lynch penguin. Either-or.

VOTE: Penguin, with love. The OTHER kind of nailing you to the wall, this time, dearest.

Trolling Fairy · Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:57 pm

In post 1078, notscience wrote:If you think I'm going to sit by and let you lnie up lynches you're sorely mistaken

Shut up and sheep me, or vote me and THEN sheep me once i flip town. She's being varsoon from xenogears, plz vote before you're a day 8 living inno child plz tia.

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:10 am

less emoticons, more sheeping

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:11 am

CAN'T DO SHIT EXCEPT SOMEHOW BE MORE TOWN THAN WE ALREADY ARE

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:11 am

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE WANT FROM US

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:11 am

WE'VE GIVEN YOU EVERYTHING WE FUCKING HAVE AND MORE
EVERYTHING

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:12 am

I'VE PUT MY LIFE ON THE LINE MORE TIMES THAN I CAN COUNT AND STILL I DON'T DIE

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:13 am

WE ARE THE SHINING BEACON OF LIGHT POINTING YOU TO THE ONE TRUE SCUM

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:13 am

WE ARE THE SHERPA THROUGH TREACHEROUS GROUNDS

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:13 am

WE ARE LEADERS AMONG FOLLOWERS, WE ARE EMPERORS AMONG SERFS

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:13 am

WE ARE HOPE IN DARKNESS

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:14 am

WE ARE COURAGE IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:15 am

WE ARE CORRECT

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:15 am

GOD DAMN WE ARE CORRECT

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:15 am

GIVE ME YOUR VOTES, GIVE ME YOUR TRUST, GIVE ME YOUR HEARTS

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:16 am

I WANT IT I WANT IT SO FUCKING BADLY

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:18 am

GIVE ME THE VICTORY
GIVE ME THE HOPE
GIVE ME THE HAPPINESS OF A WIN

GIVE CABD THE LOVE OF HIS WOMAN ONCE AGAIN
YOU'RE TEARING APART THEIR RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE AT THIS MOMENT THERE IS NOT ABLE TO BE A COMPLETE ATMOSPHERE OF TRUST BETWEEN THEM BECAUSE PENGUIN IS LYING TO HIM. HE'S LYING TO US.

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:18 am

I JUST WANT THEM TO BE HAPPY AGAIN BUT YOU WON'T LET THEM BE HAPPY

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:18 am

LET THEM BE HAPPY.
THAT'S ALL I EVER WANTED.

LET THEM BE HAPPY.

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:35 am

Cabd, I want you to know that I appreciate this moment very much. I know, when penguin finally gets lynched after deadline gets close and the apathy crew is forced to do something, you and penguin will be normal again, I'll be a lurkfuck again, I'll keep this moment in a special place in my heart. We aren't the perfect hydra, it's true: we've lurked a lot, and only lived this long because scum was scummy and kaze derped, but at this moment we're in sync, we're pushing with the righteous force of two people who completely believe that they're right even though who the hell really knows that's the case, and it's a good feeling. It's why I fell in love with hydraing, and it's why I have your heart if only for a moment.

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:35 am

Cabd, I want you to know that I appreciate this moment very much. I know, when penguin finally gets lynched after deadline gets close and the apathy crew is forced to do something, you and penguin will be normal again, I'll be a lurkfuck again, I'll keep this moment in a special place in my heart. We aren't the perfect hydra, it's true: we've lurked a lot, and only lived this long because scum was scummy and kaze derped, but at this moment we're in sync, we're pushing with the righteous force of two people who completely believe that they're right even though who the hell really knows that's the case, and it's a good feeling. It's why I fell in love with hydraing, and it's why I have your heart if only for a moment.

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:59 pm

Falcon I know you're checked out right now but sheep me plz TIA

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:59 pm

In post 1101, Trolling Fairy wrote:Cabd, I want you to know that I appreciate this moment very much. I know, when penguin finally gets lynched after deadline gets close and the apathy crew is forced to do something, you and penguin will be normal again, I'll be a lurkfuck again, I'll keep this moment in a special place in my heart. We aren't the perfect hydra, it's true: we've lurked a lot, and only lived this long because scum was scummy and kaze derped, but at this moment we're in sync, we're pushing with the righteous force of two people who completely believe that they're right even though who the hell really knows that's the case, and it's a good feeling. It's why I fell in love with hydraing, and it's why I have your heart if only for a moment.

<3

When you come to California we're hitting Yosemite as brothers. Town lynching scumfuck lover of cabd's brothers.

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:39 pm

In post 1083, notscience wrote:>.>

NOTSCIENCE IS OBVTOWN ASS ALL GET-OUT

There, now fucking sheep me, I'm not letting her mislynch you.

Trolling Fairy · Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:40 pm

*as but whatever, that way is funnier!

Trolling Fairy · Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:57 am

In post 1108, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I am kinda lost. Everyone feels scummy.

Lets mass claim.
Nacho and cab,
You are way too sure about it being penguin just like you were way too sure or was beli earlier. You are not stopping to think things through or develop reads on anyone else. You are trying to hurry this game along. Your case on penguin is pure speculation.

We are VT. I don't regret the Slainthe lynch (usually optimal to lynch the blocked especially when optimal scum play so very strongly calls for you to die), and I won't regret the penguin lynch. We might be rushing more than you are, but it seems like we are thinking more than you are. What happened to early game falcon? I thougjht this was one of the best town games you've ever played until you just dropped off.

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:00 am

In post 1120, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 1119, Trolling Fairy wrote:I thougjht this was one of the best town games you've ever played until you just dropped off.

You gotta be kidding. What hapenned to the stupid mutual tunnel with Bork? Now I'm getting paranoid you are using flattery to get on my good side.

Anyways, I said I was busy (or I think I did). RL came in the way. I don't want to lynch until I read the entire game (that might be weeks though and I wouldn't mind waiting until deadline if needed, sorry I want to win this game for once. I lost spectacularly in the last three games I played) and I want Penguin to answer my questions.

I guess you claiming roleblocker and then lynching scum and then correctly guessing scum would no kill and holding onto your shot didn't happen. I also have great memories of you nailing me to the wall with the "unnecessary flattery" scumtell.

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:21 am

In post 1122, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Okay, so TF: You were so certain D3 that Beli was scum that you asked to be lynched if Beli was town and even suggested lynching you first for maximum hilarity. You never considered that Penguin could be scum. You even threw out suspicion on Xayzeck for a little while but you ignored the signs pointing to Beli as town, why?

Beli voted the mafia roleblocker and made a push towards him when if he were scum, it would have been an auto-loss. His push on you also made sense from Beli as town because as you put it in the scum PT of Tales, Beli is paranoid and would vote the strongest player in the game. There's a lot of stuff that didn't make sense from him as scum. You never considered then that Penguin could be scum who withheld a kill to frame Beli. You rushed that lynch and now you are rushing this one. There's also no continuity to your analysis. D2, you showed up and told me to wait and went with the Rez lynch when I made sure that it was already set in stone and no one else was getting lynched. You didn't really catch up or offer a full list of your reads.

I guess the thing that bugs me most is that you are just pushing through lynches without second guessing yourself. It is like you want those lynches to happen quickly before people start analyzing and re-analyzing every little thing. Your case on Penguin is a massive, massive stretch i.e. Penguin wants revenge for the Seal game. Also what happened to your suspicion of Xay? It feels like once I closed off that avenue by saying Xay is obvtown, you abandoned that push. It feels like you are making the pushes that you can make and abandoning ones that are impossible. You are also not seeing the town things that others are doing (Xay, Penguin, Beli). You see NotScience as town but you kinda have to or he'll tunnel the crap out of you. All your stances seem convenient. Your overconfidence (lynch me next if Beli/Penguin flip town) seems fake as well.

Beli making a push on me is within the capabilities of Beli's scum game, ands is in fact the best play for him to make because he cannot make a push on many other targets while we are pushing him. Beli push on rez was townish, but not suicide like you were painting it to be: he was pushed into making that play by other people making that play and wouldn't really ave any avenue of escape (or delayed death even) if he failed in derailing rez lynch, which he probably would have. I ignored his item play on day 1 and rez case for him being town which was a mistake, but I found it more likely that you blocked the kill as opposed to scum shooting themselves in the foot like they did here. I originally took penguin off the table for interaction with us, but after doing a re-read and picking up on the power contradiction and a lack of nothing as well as a pretty strong string of Xay posts, penguin seems a much stronger possibility than Xay. I cannot see a way kaze is scum. Accusing me of rushing lynches shows that you've forgotten my town game: do you remember in Zach's micro when I pushed wisdom and didn't stop pushing wisdom? When he got close to a lynch, did I say "wait guys maybe he's town?". I reanalyze less when we are in a low risk situation, and I reanalyze less when information points strongly to a conclusion. Both of these conditions are in place.

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:24 am

Think of it from my perspective as town: do you make sense as scum right now? Does notscience, after kaze play, make sense as scum right now? You can sayI should still have trepedations on Xay because I did before, but I think his recent play has been a hell of a lot better than penguin's, don't you think?

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:40 am

In post 1132, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:What hapenned to the Penguin read in the meantime?

Her weird "oh I forgot my role oh I lied oh I lied again" setup thing gave me (cabd) a town read there but now in hindsight it was probably intentional and done to backpedal. Go look at the day penguin got lynched in fire emblem awakening. Same gig. She changes her claim to try and relieve pressure as scum.

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:45 am

In post 1081, Trolling Fairy wrote:You wanna know how I know you're scum, penguin?You're doing that thing you do.You know, when you have a surprise you're keeping from me. But in this game? Only scum is keeping surprises right now.

^This is a tell she also does IRL and she's doing it here too. It's hard to put to words, but I can tell when she's keeping something from me.

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:45 am

In post 1134, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I don't have time for meta-dives atm so I'll take your word for it.

She had been claimed oneshot mortician, changed it to three shot to explain why they should lynch her, it backfired.

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:48 am

Well it sure as hell isn't a puppy!

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:48 am

(and not just because I'm a cat person, either)

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:56 am

I will inform him that his {town and suspecting falcontown} cherry has been popped. I hope you'll take responsibility and invite me to the wedding.

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:58 am

I am not. She's been home since Monday evening. I lack the ability to make her snuggle from half the US away.

Trolling Fairy · Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:02 am

Shhhh it's because she's scum, falcon. I don't get this certain about my pushes very often but holy shit when I do, they're big.