Micro 405 - Autumn's Serenade [Game Over]

[droog]

hey
im just sorry i cant compare to marquis
two left feet
: )

[droog]

sorry im taken

[droog]

ask etl to dance

ask pirate mollie to dance

whyd you only ask these two

[droog]

i have no idea how to hunt in this

[droog]

i dont get it why's everyone dislike ika

[droog]

ask etl to dance

ask pirate mollie to dance

whyd you only ask these two

[droog]

WAT
ARE
YOU
SHITTING
ME?

please explain
because i literally do not understand

[droog]

because i was going to dance with one of them or not at all. that's how this game was going the moment signups ended.

uhhhh
so you were offering to dance with anyone who'd have you?

[droog]

thank you that answers my question
: )

[droog]

Getting mostly town impressions from droog in the PT.

i reciprocate
gotten some useful explanations from kagami

[droog]

well then you have a contridciton by etl anti, she said you 2 preplanned it or is she lying?

VOTE: anti

also AA9 is town

:scumposting:

it's not even close to a contradiction. she signed up as the opposite sex to me with the understanding that i would ask her first post (we were actually GOING to do this in the summer game, but we both signed up as gentlemen because miscommunication)

then mollie signed up and i thought, "i'm not choosing one, i'm asking both"

that reason was pulled
STRAIGHT

from your ass
,though

someone please corroborate

[droog]

"I won't tell you who scum is
Or how I got my town reads
But who's scum?"

[droog]

I'm not sure whether to interpret this as some personality gambit

[droog]

Reck is it something I did or something marquis did

[droog]

Going to say I like mollie
Her posts make the most sense of anyone"a

[droog]

I wondered in the pt if droog was scum cos he said I made the most sense. I am always suspicious of people who don't know me doing that cos I know I am not an easy player to understand.

this is closest to the top so it gets responded to first
around when i said that you were the only player making sense
you were

here are some quotes for comparison

HOW ABOUT WHEN I FUCKING SAID I ASKED A DELIBERATELY LOADED QUESTION THAT HOW SHE ANSWERED IT IS WHAT MAKES ME THINK SHE TOWN?

I wold have said you shouldn't.... her response is null. I already explained why we should not be doing that.... if you read the last game... or any of my posts here... you would understand that. But the point remains, which is that her response is null.

I kind of think ika is town here, btw, but I hate this reaction to being asked for reasoning.

ika is v town.

Kagami, ika are my strongest town reads.
Droog, ETL are my strongest scum reads.

@Mollie why do you read me/anti as scum?

What's wrong with anti? I like him so far.

anti does not feel close and town!anti is never afraid to get close.

mollie wins

though if reck or etl or ika wants to explain that nonsense
in a fucking way i can understand it
please do

[droog]

speaking of reck i dont like how he read through kagami's summary
and instead of explaining himself after half of what i bitched about was not understanding reck
makes a deal out of my past experience

((also this will look hilarously scummy lmao but
did i really use the word 'regularly'? i am going to go check
if i did it was a gross exaggeration i cant have played more than a dozen games on my old account))

[droog]

what the fuck kagami
maybe you can interpret what i said as playing ms regularly????


i could see you getting the meaning you got from it but
i did not say anything like 'i used to play here a lot'

[droog]

I ask him if he's an alt and if he knows the playerlist, answers: yes, no

Okay, then FUCK this shit about him acting "so noob"... he's not a noob at all, he's pretending to be.

go look at some games im playing in this account
then reread kagaimi's summary

then say again with a staright face that im pretending to be a noob
or claiming to be a noob at all

i will say all day
with a straight face
i had no idea subbing into this that most people here knew each other and relied on tells like
"weird. ika's making sense, so he must be scum"

[droog]

I gave up on getting homework done so I reread

arc's response to ika's loaded question was borderline nonsensical but I can easily see him as town overestimating the result of a reaction test

I could also see him using it as an excuse to hard-buddy arc, but that seems less likely

am i misreading or is bob townreading the player he subbed in for?

[droog]

I am pretty sure reck was being facetious with that comment but ika never makes sense like for REALZ. don't worry, he will start bragging about things that have not happened on this site yet any second now and you will then see what we mean.

I understand that it is hard to play with a group of people that you don't know.

I doubly get when they are all familiar with each other and have different ways of working each other out it gives scum very little room to hide.

then please tell me
does reck not explaining a goddamn thing make him town or scum

[droog]

hey hey

I already skimmed through most of the game before I replaced in so this isn't exactly a first impression

reck insisting he's town feels fake in ISO

Dear mollie, dance with me, darling!

Hi everyone.

this feels insincere

is mollie reading me as scum off of one post srsly?

this is something town would never complain about

VOTE: reck

-----

kagami seems town

mollie is kind of town

I really liked anti early on because he created friction by inviting both etl and mollie, although his explanation later on kind of negates that

no real read on etl, ika and droog

commenting on droog is going to pretty hard for me because of the usual reason

First can you explain to me what "the usual reason" is

[droog]

TLDR

: I don't give a fuck that it was one post, I have literally zero knowledge of these apparent conversations we have had about catching people off of one post, and I clearly have no problem catching people off of one post because that's where my droog read came from. I have a problem with the fact that the "one post" you were referencing with a scumread had nothing in it to read and you still haven't explained why AND you went several posts afterwards without mentioning it.

Where the fuck did your read on me come from

[droog]

VOTE: droog

Reck is it something I did or something marquis did

Reck is it something I did or something marquis did

u

Going to say I like mollie
Her posts make the most sense of anyone"a

ummm yeah so #1 droog questioned me then ignored my answer, then he says MOLLIE'S posts make the most sense?

No thank you

I ask him if he's an alt and if he knows the playerlist, answers: yes, no

Okay, then FUCK this shit about him acting "so noob"... he's not a noob at all, he's pretending to be.

Please explain

[droog]

@ika: do you still think bob is town?

bob: do you think ika is town?

@etl: do you still suspect this pair?

[droog]

that's just not a town mentality at all..... you're looking for "results" (being townread) rather than "hey i should share all info i possibly can that would help town even if i die".

and when i flip town you will know that it is.

i dont do things that i feel like will yeild no results. i have already listed my suspects and so far i have been largly ignored on it so i see no point in defending myself or my partner

here have an updated readlist

EspeciallyTheLies

ArcAngel9

Droog

pirate mollie

Antihero

Kagami

ika

xRECKONERx

ika the more i go through your posts the more i cant find opinions
so can you explain thees

why do you have a solid scumread on kagami when everyone else seems to have a townread there?
actually its not relevant that everyone has a townread there so
why

[droog]

on a reread im feeling worse and worse about the ika/bob pair
kagami my only good thoughts already but
i don't like that aa9 explained her policy on accepting a suitor
then accepted a suitor immediately

[droog]

Like I told mollie, droog's first two posts felt really NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK HEY GUYS and it felt really scummy to me. (Mollie called this an Amish tell, I don't know what that means, I couldn't find it on the wiki). I didn't even notice this, but his 162 where he thanks Antihero for answering his question also felt a little too "friendly" (lack of better word) to me. It's also worth noting that Anti answers his questions, and while droog thanks him, he never comments on what it mattered or what it changes.

After that, there's something about his posts that rub me the wrong way. "I don't know how to scumhunt!" and "I don't get why everyone hates ika!" are both really flimsy posts that don't add a lot other than noise and basically absolves himself of responsibility because of LOL NOOB. "I literally do not understand" also comes in later in regards to antihero. "I'm not sure how to interpret this" and "someone please corroborate" also join the fray, totaling up to a whopping 1/3rd of his posts being confusion/standing on the sidelines scratching his head because LOL I SO CONFUSED AND NOOB!!!

I mean, droog's whole iso is full of go-nowhere questioning:

Spoiler:

ask etl to dance

ask pirate mollie to dance

whyd you only ask these two

ask etl to dance

ask pirate mollie to dance

whyd you only ask these two

because i was going to dance with one of them or not at all. that's how this game was going the moment signups ended.

uhhhh
so you were offering to dance with anyone who'd have you?

Reck is it something I did or something marquis did

All of these questions were asked, then answered, with no follow up from droog. Not even a statement of opinion about the person, just straight up Question Asked-Question Answered-The End. It lends itself to the first point I made... everything he does is like he's trying to appear helpful/town/etc without actually being helpful/town/etc.

In fact, literally the only actual content droog has provided is his most recent post:

Going to say I like mollie
Her posts make the most sense of anyone"a

Holy shit, he actually gave a read on someone! But the read doesn't even make sense. Mollie is notorious for NOT making sense, or flip flopping, or writing hard to parse posts. This just feels like bullshit. Kagami, me, and ETL have all pretty consistently posted real things that aren't hard to dig into or read, but somehow Mollie walks away with the award of "Most Sense-Making Poster in this Game"? Bullshit

learn to read[/quote]

shit i actually missed this
my bad
i was probably forgot because you voted me and didn't explain didn't explain for a hundred pages
: )

still pretty weak though
: )

Like I told mollie, droog's first two posts felt really NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK HEY GUYS and it felt really scummy to me. (Mollie called this an Amish tell, I don't know what that means, I couldn't find it on the wiki). I didn't even notice this, but his 162 where he thanks Antihero for answering his question also felt a little too "friendly" (lack of better word) to me.

don't give a fuck
: )

he never comments on what it mattered or what it changes.

do you need me to?
: ) : )

"I don't know how to scumhunt!"

not what i said
: ) : )

"I don't get why everyone hates ika!"

posts made 40 minutes after i joined
later i asked questions but you didnt like those
: D

standing on the sidelines

droog's whole iso is full of go-nowhere questioning

you can't have it both ways
im either asking questions or on the sidelines

also I think part of my confusion was understandable since you voted me without an explanation for 100 pages
: 3

Kagami, me, and ETL have all pretty consistently posted real things

said kagami was town in 168
kind of null-town on etl (said so in the qt kagami quoted as well)
youve been fuck all confusing
; 3

thanks in a way
now that i see your scumhunting involves strongarming everyone into buying your narrative
i have a much better read on you
; 0

[droog]

my computer's going in/out
but i really dont like the bob/aa slot
will elaborate as time gives

[droog]

townreading ika now for throwing a tantrum

[droog]

bob puts me in the uncomfortable spot of having similar reads to someone i think is scum
really dont like the bob slot so reck can be null again
deetails below

reck insisting he's town feels fake in ISO

Dear mollie, dance with me, darling!

Hi everyone.

this feels insincere

is mollie reading me as scum off of one post srsly?

this is something town would never complain about

VOTE: reck

this is a pretty weak case to start, and

Why are you empathizing "ONE POST"?

Why would a misread be more acceptable after fifty posts?

bob frams it as reck emphasizing one post, but bob is the one doing the emphasizing
this is reck's 3rd post
from page 3

bob blows it up and makes it sound like reck is upset about a read based on one post
reck is actually upset that the read came from his

only

post

you would've assumed that frame of mind in other players and

you would've started scumhunting

instead of whining about someone giving you a scum read after one post

if you're scum, you'd see someone scumreading you early on as superserious because you

are

scum

the bold is a good point -- reck didn't scumhunt
but bob doesnt make that his case on reck
he goes back to distorting reck's #69

instead of pushing reck to hunt more
bob is pushing to lynch reck
the difference between those two is scum motive

there was a lot of back and forth on this point between the two
it made up a lot of bob's early play

second:

arc's response to ika's loaded question was borderline nonsensical but I can easily see him as town overestimating the result of a reaction test

((after clarification, this refers to ika being town. bob, please correct me if you're actually implying a town read on your own slot))

this is not a great commitment to a townread on ika
this quote could be played both ways in a later conversation

"no, i said i thought bob was town"
"no, i said it was borderline nonsensical"

not much by itself, but here's something that got buried:

ika kept pushing the same question he asked arc in my face, the one he already admitted is loaded

I got tired of it and I told him we should end the dance,

feigning ignorance on how to do

it so he'd have to deal with the stupid question and fight for my town read for once

but of course ika is too proud to try and convince his town read not to break up with him and he doesn't actually know the answer to the stupid question

unless this is another one of his dumb reaction tests, that is, in which case I'll bang my head to the wall until I lose consciousness

1) ika's tantrum actually comes from bob. he's the one who wanted to break off the dance
2) he

feigned not knowing how to do it

that is a massive point
town has some motivation to suicide -- if you think your partner is scum
scum has no motivation to suicide -- a 1-1 trade is bad for scum

bob threatened to suicide, which looks town
and then "feigned forgetting" -- which absolves him of having to do it

this is a pretty massive point
((and saves me the effort of having to analyze bob's smaller points))

Bonus:

But right now

I'm mostly arguing that you're full of shit and not that you're scum

so I'm willing to take a step back and see if I can see you reacting that way because of your history.

realize where he has his vote placed

VOTE: bicephalous bob

[droog]

Me/Mollie are most likely to be all-town.

i grudgingly agree
mollie and kagami are town, and i wont say my own pair is the most pro-town
bob's pair needs to be lynched
etl and anti are two big ??'s for me

[droog]

there's really not much to go on in anti's iso
it reads more like a chatroom than a mafia game

lol

anti isn't denying being scum did you notice?

WHAT KIND OF SHIT IS THIS?

seriously, i still haven't heard THE FIRST WORD about ika who i EXPLICITLY ASKED ABOUT HOWEVER LONG AGO, and now i'm being made to feel like I'M FALLING SHORT on something here?

and now i have to pull some notscience like "ohheylolollooz, i'm obvtown" shit or start screaming about how town i am (which... i don't think i've EVER done)

mollie, this is all horseshit and you know it

VOTE: mollie

"you're wrong go die"

kagami, could you flesh that ika townread out more. i'd love to hear it.

what would he do with it if he heard it?
i dont really know what his ika opinion is because he's as clear as someone swallowing a watermelon but
would he really entertain it?

you know what?

forget disjointed scumtells.

all that needs to be done is find 1 alltown pairing, not lynch them, and it's autowin

it might be reck/mollie and mollie's on a derp trip
;which is actually, what i'm thinking right now.

i do like this post though

[droog]

i don't think there's a point to me combing through etl
the guy's contributing at a fair clip im taking that as town for now

there's a lot to read and nothing jumps out except

I've got town at Kagami/droog/Anti, with a side of Reck, though Reck's latest analysis of droogs posts makes me want to go look at it again.

Gut told me droog was town on first read. Reck's analysis made me question it. In any case, I don't want to lynch that pair first. Reck has me as scum and he's wrong, so *shrug* I don't know how much to trust his read of droog. I'd trust his read of mollie much more, so I do want to hear his final conclusions after their little tiff last night. Same for mollie on reck.

i thought it odd you mentioned this twice without having a clear answer
what do you think of reck's case on me now?

[droog]

droog i think that your post on anti was convenient.

Yep
I was online and anti got himself noticed so I looked through his Iso

Or do you not have an answer for my question

[droog]

Oh shit that flip

[droog]

Disregard everything while I look through anti's iso again

[droog]

It just are my post

Amit voted for ika mollie and bob in that order

That's twice on the ika/bob pair
Anti's interactions with Mollie were either a really bad attempt at bussing
Or a desperate vote

I'm inclined toward the latter and mollie is strong town read now

If one of his votes was a bus it'd be on the bob-ika pair

[droog]

Yeah, Anti, want to paint us a picture, there?

droog's breakdown above is pretty damn impressive.

yeah

read my posts

if you have to, compare them to other people you think are town (kagami's thoughts on you are basically a carbon copy of mine, mollie pursued the same angles on etl's read on reck as I did)

why was this fucker town
if i had been ika i would have left too

it's not

lynch reck if kagami's answers to my questions are sufficient

make sure they get answered

does anyone know what these questions even were?

[droog]

thoughts:

scum can only win by lynching the non-scum pair
they won't suicide and won't want to get stuck suspecting their partner

anti voted twice on bob/ika
increasing the chance that his mollie vote was a bus

still like mollie so im more inclined to think
just because reck never talked to kagami
that it's more likely kagami than reck

[droog]

you+droog always not voting makes me feel very ick about your team. I don't feel like scum would dive in when there are townies lurking/not contributing/sitting on the sidelines.

yeah but we're not a team.
i have almost 0 say on what kagami does

not sure i like this implication

speaking of lurking, mollie where did you go?
have not heard much from you since before the anti lynch

give me a sounding board
is reck normallly this inscrutable

[droog]

and I wasn't lurking.

anybody who thinks that I was scum with anti is fucking retarded. or scum.

2 posts in 2 days is totally lurking
and i dont

[droog]

Thing about ika-scum is that there aren't a lot of viable pairings for him.

I don't see all the ladies so quickly picking up partners if one of them was scummates with him, and

I don't see him being scum with anti here for obvious reasons

, leaving only ika-AA9 and ika-reck.

now that we know that anti was scum this post really stands out.

the kagami anti meta is pretty bad
going to look through the reck anti meta to compare

[droog]

there's not much more here than for kagami

why are you scumreading etl, reck?

what is this game you're playing now mollie. i have never seen it before.
...

i've seen you fly off the handle at people who are scumreading you as town before
and i've seen you scumread people after actually engaging them or at least giving some kind of (valid) reason

now what's all this nonsense going on right now?
i haven't reached out? that's not even close to being true.

reck, what are your impressions from what's going on in the pt?

Like one post she'll be like "OMG this is like a hydra yayyyy" implying we're both town, then when I'm like "but I don't know that you're 100% town" she's like "oh yeah me neither same to you"

ok

THAT is more characteristic of townmollie

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bob

yeah, i think that outside ETL, reck/mollie pair has the best chance of alltown
not lynching that

you know i wonder if anti switching to reading mollie as town
was a way of buddying reck without buddying him

[droog]

ftr anti spoke to me 3 times
i suspect he talked to the people he knew and this analysis is a waste meh

im too tired for this but mollie is anti the kind ofp layer who would ignore or yell at teammates

[droog]

yeah I'm just gonna risk it and say it's probably not mollie and I think it's Kagami (or droog,

doesn't matter

)

dont like this

[droog]

i dont like that you're only concerned with the other team
that is the only way scum can win in this setup

[droog]

i dont like that you're only concerned with the other team
that is the only way scum can win in this setup

Well, I'm town, and the easiest way for me to win in this setup is to get a read on my dance partner and if she's town, I know how to win

Then please flesh out your Mollie read.
"Mollie is town" is different from
What your saying
That it must be tie other group that had scum

ftr anti spoke to me 3 times
i suspect he talked to the people he knew and this analysis is a waste meh

im too tired for this but mollie is anti the kind ofp layer who would ignore or yell at teammates

drrog where did you go?

anyways to answer your question: not that I recall but I think I have only seen him as scum 1 other time in a forum game.

Heh you just said that to me cause I did it to you
I'm assuming then you don't think anti can be used to help us choose the last one?

[droog]

kagami's been in the qt a bit.
i could summarize but i dont see the need

kagami is going through last-second paranoia that it is you after all mollie
which i read as a )very) week towntell

she didnt like reck's post on etl which i guess i will dig up for kagami
since he's got something irl thats distracting her

i have no idea why everyone says you make no sense
youve explained yourself more than kagami and reck at least
again -- why i think you're town.

[droog]

ika is v town.

Kagami, ika are my strongest town reads.
Droog, ETL are my strongest scum reads.

@Mollie why do you read me/anti as scum?

why are you scumreading etl, reck?

It's a lot of gut that I could probably put into vagueish words if you think it'll really help, but I don't think it will.

Mollie is notorious for NOT making sense, or flip flopping, or writing hard to parse posts. This just feels like bullshit. Kagami, me, and ETL have all pretty consistently posted real things that aren't hard to dig into or read, but somehow Mollie walks away with the award of "Most Sense-Making Poster in this Game"? Bullshit

So why didn't you complain about ETL townreading you after one post?

because I didn't read ETL's posts

Also I have ETL as scum and that sort of plays into it

@kagami: is this what you were referring to? please show up to explain
@reck: these posts are really contradictory
(etl is a scumread, but only based on gut, and you didn't even read his posts?)
please explaim

[droog]

no she didnt it looked more like scumhunter's paranoia to me
it was less 'psssssst droog its totally mollie'
more 'welp its probably reck but if its mollie gg'

[droog]

does voting even matter or are we doing this by suicide

[droog]

well shit we need to reach a decision
im not expecting votes to be worth much but this is where i'm leaning

VOTE: reck

[droog]

UNVOTE:

maybe not
im having a scumhunters meltdown its too late for this shit

[droog]

shit i just remembered we have 20 minutes
mollie please be online we need to figure out if its reck or kagami

((if it's you good game))

[droog]

There must be plurality voting, it would be silly if town just loses.

It's reck.

killing reck is solely up to mollie
without her there is no reck majority
wither her there is no leaving reck at the dance

now please explain why its reck and why i shouldnt leave you

[droog]

if I leave the dance with reck and reck is town I will freaking have to listen to etl and ika for a decade about how I lynched their top town read. if reck is scum I get to lord it over them forever.

yeah but if you make me leave with kagami and reck is scum i'll never forgive mysel

I think he townread me and scumread you in the hopes of convincing me to leave the party. I implied that I would do so shortly before rephrasing the PT, and

he immediately jumped on the "noob card" thing

, which was a clear stretch.

please explain this again reck
you havnet addressed it since i busted your case

I assumed so.

I told you, I wanted to sort out droog. I really was considering suicide prior to reck's noob card thing.

I simply wasn't around after I had decided he was prob-town.

why did you decide i was prob-town?

____

you guys posted a bunch while i was reading what id missed gimme a few min

[droog]

so I'm willing to risk the game on that. In which case who the fuck cares which one of the two it is from my POV

you can pretend its mollie youre talking to
but im the one who brought that concern up in the first pla

[droog]

pretty sure it was in our qt lemme look

[droog]

please explain this again reck
you havnet addressed it since i busted your case

You were pretending to be a noob and you weren't, the end?

bullshit
: )

pretty sure it was in our qt lemme look

then that's all we need to know.

i cant find it actually but i remember something of the sort
i definitely remember kagami threatening suicide more than mollie does

final question prompted by something from our qt

you and kagami both had etl as high suspects
which includes the anti slot

please explain why etl was scum again

[droog]

I kind of think ika is town here, btw, but I hate this reaction to being asked for reasoning.

I do too that is why I am using that post for wotc

what do you think about droog?

I'm suspicious.

And scumread on droog is fading fast.

this is what i found with a ctrl-f of my name

[droog]

droog if you're actually going somewhere with the noob card case, please get on with it.

because i want to establish if i think you're a liar or very confused
nowhere did i pretend to be a noob and its ridiculous to think i was

(((also

if i was trying to present myself as a not noob, itd be very noobish
to tell kagami i wasnt a noob
)))

[droog]

scum!you would be sticky with a droog scumread

i kind of got the impression this is what reck was doing

[droog]

droog if you're actually going somewhere with the noob card case, please get on with it.

because i want to establish if i think you're a liar or very confused
nowhere did i pretend to be a noob and its ridiculous to think i was

Fair, you never said you were a noob.

But coming in and entering the game with the comments you did are implying that you're a noob.

this is trying to have your cake and eat it too
doesnt matter if you think my posts implied i was a noob
matters if you think i was trying to look noob for [x] reasons
give me a suitable answer to this question or you're a liar trying to con us both

do you think i was trying to look like a noob to help scumplay

[droog]

and dont tell me no without explaining yourself
this was a whole big case and a decent part of your entire game

you dropping a big scumread without ever explaining
would be as bad as kagami hardly any reads

[droog]

Can you just suicide already

why do you keep rushing me

[droog]

reck that was the most bullshit answer ive ever heard

if it was bullshit 200 pages ago why isnt it bullshit now
what changed your mind

dont give me some bullshit stall tactic about how i didnt ask it before either
i asked pretty clearly last page for you to elaborate and you didnt

[droog]

The explanation:

"Oh this relatively new account looks suspiciously like an alt and is playing dumb in their first few posts, I smell some bullshit"

why the fuck did you changey our mind

[droog]

what changed your mind

tbqh nothing really other than "i refuse to believe that someone is so fucking stupid, so unbelievably retarded, that they would pretend to be a noob in the game thread but openly claim not to be on in their partner thread"

that's it. That's literally it. I cannot face a world in which someone's masterplan is unraveled by monologuing to the good guys. This isn't fucking Scooby Doo.

so why didnt you answer that the first time i asked it

[droog]

ika is v town.

Kagami, ika are my strongest town reads.
Droog, ETL are my strongest scum reads.

@Mollie why do you read me/anti as scum?

why are you scumreading etl, reck?

It's a lot of gut that I could probably put into vagueish words if you think it'll really help, but I don't think it will.

Mollie is notorious for NOT making sense, or flip flopping, or writing hard to parse posts. This just feels like bullshit. Kagami, me, and ETL have all pretty consistently posted real things that aren't hard to dig into or read, but somehow Mollie walks away with the award of "Most Sense-Making Poster in this Game"? Bullshit

i was sure id asked you that question before and i just found this

i dont care anymore you're scum

VOTE: reck

sorry if im wrong but this is too fucking much

So why didn't you complain about ETL townreading you after one post?

because I didn't read ETL's posts

Also I have ETL as scum and that sort of plays into it

@kagami: is this what you were referring to? please show up to explain
@reck: these posts are really contradictory
(etl is a scumread, but only based on gut, and you didn't even read his posts?)
please explaim

[droog]

droog if you're actually going somewhere with the noob card case, please get on with it.

because i want to establish if i think you're a liar or very confused
nowhere did i pretend to be a noob and its ridiculous to think i was

Fair, you never said you were a noob.

But coming in and entering the game with the comments you did are implying that you're a noob.

this is trying to have your cake and eat it too
doesnt matter if you think my posts implied i was a noob
matters if you think i was trying to look noob for [x] reasons
give me a suitable answer to this question or you're a liar trying to con us both

do you think i was trying to look like a noob to help scumplay

reck that was the most bullshit answer ive ever heard

if it was bullshit 200 pages ago why isnt it bullshit now
what changed your mind

dont give me some bullshit stall tactic about how i didnt ask it before either
i asked pretty clearly last page for you to elaborate and you didnt

The explanation:

"Oh this relatively new account looks suspiciously like an alt and is playing dumb in their first few posts, I smell some bullshit"

why the fuck did you changey our mind

i aksed three fucking times and you only explained the third
tell me that isnt stalling

[droog]

fuck quotes tags
thanks for nothing reck

VOTE: reck

[droog]

why did i not see it before
your position is based on changing from me to kagami
this is why mollie thinks youre town

and you never explained it until i dragged it out of you just now
and your reason was scooby doo

and you never have a good answer to my next question because it wasnt the same as my last question!

[droog]

Spoiler: PbP rephrasing of our PT

droog says he has no idea what's going on

he asks if he should townread me

I give my impression of the pre-dance, which mostly consists of what I perceive to be viable scum-pairings

I tell him I want his opinions on other people

He points out that nobody likes ika and wonders if we should suggest AA9 suicide

I say we should get info from AA9, shame she's MIA

I ask him if he's an alt and if he knows the playerlist, answers: yes, no

He doesn't like the timing of AA9's post

I ask about his impressions of ETL-Anti

He sort of non-answers and asks me what I think of them

I say they more or less had to pick each other, and that it's interesting that they lack suspicion of each other

I mention that lady-lady scumpair seems kind of unlikely because they'd likely vig someone stronger than gaiden

He asks me to reiterate how player relationships affected the pairings

He asks whether gent-gent is a strong possibility. I say maybe and that it somewhat would implicate antihero

I say gent-lady is more likely, but that they'd still be in probably different pairs.

droog goes back to AA9 post timing (I hadn't reponded to that observation), points out that AA9 said she'd pair with anyone then does so in 2 minutes. Suggests that it was intended as a public show

He asks why gent-gent implicates anti-hero, I say that it makes it especially critical that they find partners, and anti made the strongest "gonna get me a womanz" play

He wonders why anti asked only those two (I had kind of already said why)

He asks ika's ETL-anti contradiction post meant

I say that anti-ETL was a preplanned thing

I say that contrary to my in-thread post, ETL-ika is vaguely possible if ETL thought it was too suspicious not to accept

I point out that 33 implied that mollie-reck is also a non-scum-motivated pairing

He says that it sounds like I'm saying ika-AA9 is the only pairing that isn't explained by prior player interactions; asks if there's reason to believe one could be a cover

I say that only if scum got lucky would a scum-scum pairing outside of ika-aa9 happen

he agrees

He expresses uncertainty with what more to say and that everyone else seems to know each other

I suggest we work on the assumption that scum are not paired, and suggest the kind of behavior I'd expect unpaired scum to exhibit

I say I want to hear more from reck

I ask what he thinks about ETL

He says that ETL-Anti seem to be especially synced and thinks one is in that pair if they're separate

Says he likes ETL more from him [sic] attacking ika

I say I have scumvibes from ETL and am leery of her townreading our pair, reck seems to have come to a similar conclusion

He finds reck's lack of explanation maddening

I say that I assume reck is mostly working within his PT; I find it interesting that they get scumreads on different players in the same pair

I say that the problem with ETL attackign ika is that ika is prob town

And scumread on droog is fading fast.

It's actually kind of funny, because I really was thinking about leaving, but when you went off on him "pulling the noob card" it felt like so much of a stretch that I had re-evaluate.

fuuuuuuuck maybe it is kagami
that summary looks more and more foreign the more i look at it

mollie please help me out here or im going to need therapy

[droog]

YOU NEVER ASKED A QUESTION

I ANSWERED WHAT YOU ASKED

fuck yourself.

so i have to ask if i want to know
why your reads are what your reads are?

that is inane bullshit

[droog]

what joke?????

[droog]

YOU NEVER ASKED A QUESTION

I ANSWERED WHAT YOU ASKED

fuck yourself.

so i have to ask if i want to know
why your reads are what your reads are?

that is inane bullshit

yeah, when I don't feel that strongly, I'm not going to spend my effort trying to convince someone else to believe my reads

more bullshit

p-edit kagami why do you have to be so scummy
i only just decided it was reck stop one-upping him

[droog]

"i dont like this"
"..."
"i dont like this"
"..."
"can you explain that"
"here is my answer"
"but what about this"
"you never asked about this"

[droog]

yeah no that's not even remotely what happened

but it's cute that you can create a little world in your head where you have been just HOUUUUNDING me about these questions and I've skillfully dodged them all game

you're a liar
good game though
since you convinced mollie there's no way to lynch your lying scum ass

[droog]

^

[droog]

HAHAHA

wow if droog is scum then yes he was t hat dumb omg

nah

[droog]

i genuinely thought you made the most sense of anyone

[droog]

Good game
I was screwed when etl nailed anti

[droog]

I like the dance mechanic
Wish there was more selection
Maybe any two players can agree to change partners?

[droog]

Thanks!

Also, no hard feelings reck
It was just business

[droog]

In hindsight things would have worked better
If I'd kept reck suspicious

Couldn't let kagami get upset though