Micro 418: MS sitcom UPick - [Game Over]

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I don't particularly see a need for scummer claims.

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Vote: FuDuzn

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I would have voted earlier if it was random.

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That may or may not have played a part in my read.

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So yes it what you are saying......Why so wishy washy about it?

I can understand why you think I had scummy motives with it.

How is it wishy washy? I believe I was quite clear in saying perhaps. And why do you think you understand why I think you had scummy motives with it?

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Umm, answering with perhaps is the definition of wishy washy.

And asking for extra info from people is generally considered scummy, so in a vacuum I can see how someone looking in from the outside could see what I asked as scummy. My intentions were pure though.

It is not wishy-washy. If that was solely my reason for voting you I would have voted for you before when I did.

You seem quite self-conscious about your actions. Consider that another reason why I'm voting you.

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How is it wishy washy? I believe I was quite clear in saying perhaps. And why do you think you understand why I think you had scummy motives with it?

please give a clear reason for youn vote

No. Bugger off.

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Thank you Longbottom, 10pts.

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This is quite interesting, I've never seen Ninja as a modifier before, only as a role.

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I can see Fakegod utilizing it as such, I just have not personally seen it before.

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@chamber2: You said FuDuzn seems conscious about his actions. Do you think that's inherently scummy and why?

Scum have the burden of looking town.

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That was an incredibly scummy shot.

Konowa, why did you feel the need to shoot pg4 without engaging nor attempting to discern the alignment of your target?

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BC who do you think is scum?

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I'm not crazy about the konowa shot, but I don't think that's how scum would approach it.

The page 4 shot only makes sense if he was doing it for dayvig towncred, but there's little reason not to milk it for maximum towncred by waiting later in the day and just shooting whichever town player is being mostly scumread.

The even more likely scum use would be to wait until lylo and use it before then only for survivalism. The list of bracketed power-types doesn't include "[Day 1]" which would be the only reason I can see that he wouldn't save it.

But in a power heavy game such as this wouldn't scum dayvig act early? Not alot of connections are made and the wifom is strong. Plus he knows he is hitting a pr. The town motivation seems minimal.

Konowa is virtually cleared upon a FuDuzn scumflip.

Vote: FuDuzn

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Pre edit: Chamber, I do not know how you would ascertain that even if I was scum.

VOTE: chamber

Easy - Konowa is easy to push and your last statement regarding Konowa was made to cast doubt upon the motives of his shot, painting it as scummy as possible without outright leading his lynch. If there ever was a wagon to develop on Konowa, no doubt in my mind that you would jump on it at the earliest convenience. Consider this the "third vote scumtell".

Your vote on me is laughable.

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I want droog set on fire after we get our FuDuzn scumflip.

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It would make me somewhat suspicious that the scumteam is bulletproof or something like that.

FG likes superficially powerful roles that are actually negative utility in the context of the setup.


There are several aspects of the claim that are fishy. One is that FG had implied he would strongly consider an informed-like fake-claim in the future. Otherwise, Fudu's handling of it is decidedly strange, especially given that DV had softed his flavor from his first post (though I didn't realize DV was an aussie; it's reasonable that neither did fudu).

That said, it's clear that fudu had his claim in mind from the beginning, however suboptimal his handling of it was.

I'm kind of thinking droog.

What makes you think it has to be a fake-claim? I would not put it past FG to include it as a scum role, especially given the probability of this game being a troll FG setup.

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Sheeping kagami a bit in regards to chamber. He jumped on me quickly and never looked back, never even gave it any sort of thought. And thank he just stepped back and allowed the wagon to grow.

For anything who has played with him, is he the type to do something like this on day one?

This is complete bullshit; you have been objectively scummy throughout the duration of this game, and you clearly aren't sheeping Kagami's reasons given the placement of your vote.

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Who prob town for second miller claim.

Konowa town for vig and surrounding behavior

Fudu and chamber seems incredibly unlikely for unnecessary hard-bus. Fudu and bert is unlikely because of 200 and the context surrounding it. Fudu and BPC is unlikely because Fudu claiming informed that his partner is town is a survivalism move that is unlikely to be combined with a BPC bus vote.

Droog, however, has interactions with fudu that feel mildly scum-scum.

That's all under the assumption that fudu is scum, which is something that I'm not super confident of. I actually find chamber somewhat suspect here; I think his focus is oddly narrow, and he isn't showing an interest in advancing the gamestate. Droog is also my highest likelihood chamber partner.

I'm town.

Given that, do you feel a fudu and droog scumteam is likely?

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Completely not what I have been doing. Your play has been scummy throughout, and I do not see how that claim makes you town. In essence, the claim is not alignment indicative, and your play takes precedence.

If you're going to make another "not considering possibility of me town", you're right, I don't see how you can be town. Furthermore, if I were to consider every scumread to be possibly town then I mind as well not play mafia and sit around twiddling my thumbs, because then there would be no point scumhunting and I'd be better off rolling dice.

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Nope.

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Well that was unfortunate. I'll look at the game later but first thoughts are two town vigs, and an unconfirmed day-vig. What fine wine.

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Request deadline extension for holidays.

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Apologies for my lack of activity; this holiday's been busy.

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I am Mykonian, Macho One-shot Amnesiac Cop.

I do not have the time to properly read through and post thoughts but based upon a preliminary skim I am inclined to lean towards Konowa being scum, especially after his claim and his reaction (or lack thereof) towards droog's.

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Actually I have a feeling we have no protective roles, so a no-lynch would be less than beneficial.

In case I do not get the chance to log on again-

Vote: Konowa

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are you game-throwing?
why do you want to kill the only other suspect
players have besides you?

I find it highly amusing that you would have thrown the game if your kill change onto Bert went through. And now you learn why Who was the optimal nightkill. I was right on both accounts in terms of the possibilities of Bert being bulletproof, and BPC being night-protected.

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But can we talk about how this should have been a town win???????

Nope.

Please have more respect for the scum team thank you very much. This lack of mod respect is disconcerting.

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In retrospect, given the possibility of a BP mafia, I should have claimed.

But I didn't think of that.

Thinking about it, I can understand why you chose to play your role as you did. It would have been fine in any game other than this role madness game of Fakegod's.