Micro 451: Lucky's GIF UPick! GAME OVER!!!

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VOTE: putin on a cracker

I JUST DIED IN YOUR ARMS TONIGHT

I SHOULD'VE WALKED AWAY

I SHOULD'VE WALKED AWAY

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30 posts...?

you're adorable

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no

i would say something cute,
but fuck it

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A game with Anti and ETL and this is still on page 2...?

Mrph

I don't think a mass GIF claim is likely to be helpful.

I have a light town read on The Bulge.

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I have a light town read on The Bulge.

Why is that?

Post 18
Scum often take the time to familiarize themselves with the playerlist pre-game and are therefore slightly less likely to make the mistake of thinking serrapladin was in the game and not a head of a hydra. I can also sympathize with the vote for the odd man out.

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VOTE: TierShift

my 64 feels out of sync? Please tell me more!

You're trying to play the role of "mediator" in an argument that doesn't need one. It's a form of active lurking.

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If you don't do either of these options then you are scum for the same reasons as why Anen is scum. I suggest voting Heartless slot.

Unless you're intention is to force us to claim, what exactly are you going on about? o_O

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*your
That should be your. -.-

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Alright-y then.

Assuming the usual 2:7 micro split, working hypothesis right now is: TierShift and prawneater.

I have scum reads on these two. prawn's posting so far is very try-hard; he's forcing himself to hit those good notes. A few examples of this are: Post 22 (pretty much everything "meh?" down), Post 72, and Post 75. Post 71 is also kind of scummy for its own reasons.

I actually have surprisingly confident town reads on literally everyone else in the game besides these two (well, for reads formed pretty quickly in the first four pages that is). Out of all of them, I'm the

least

confident on Anen but everyone else has done things that I intuitively think is more likely to come from town than scum.

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not_mafia/tiershift

^^^^mine^^^^^

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VOTE: TierShift

my 64 feels out of sync? Please tell me more!

You're trying to play the role of "mediator" in an argument that doesn't need one. It's a form of active lurking.

No, I actually want to know why putin feels my 64 was out of sync. Perhaps I should have dropped the quasi-sarcastic tone.

quote is kind of irrelevant don't know why tth included it

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Tth, I'm calling bullshit on your townread on kaboose.

from what i've seen kaboose is pretty conservative as scum. suggesting the mass gif claim would be a pretty ballsy move, so i actually think that's one of the better ones.

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I'm not looking forward to another game of tth scunreading me, btw.

lol

trivializing tth's read as something she just "always does"

/poooooooooooooo

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...so it begins...

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Right, so what are your reads on Espeonage and Not_Mafia?

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Get along with each other or the heads are getting along too much? Because those are both pretty stupid arguments.

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Espeonage is hip and taking his own path which I associate with town
Notmaf is probably scum

Why is NM probably scum?

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It's not normal for four people that individually have strong voices and clash a lot to all scumread the same town player without even looking at each other for a single bit. In most games when there are two very 'out there' people, there is at least some friction or suspicion. The complete lack of that makes me uneasy.

right... i forgot to consider that tth might be scum!

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you trumped up the numbers to "OMG

FOUR

PEOPLE" tiersift

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you're the boss

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UNVOTE:
I'm doing a hard reset on this game.

Haha, you are so very funny!

Are you stupid or are you just playing?

I'm going to start this post off by saying that I will have absolutely no tolerance for this. Keep being a dick, especially to Anti, and I'll gladly vote you on principle while listing the things you can fuck yourself with.

Your argument regarding the hydras somewhat makes sense, but it's significantly weakened by the small sample size. Five pages is a little bit of a short time to develop a set of diverging reads, which is usually the source of friction in vocal players.

Theory discussion, especially boring theory discussion has no place within a mafia game. It makes pages long and when I reread, gives me more shit to process. Theory talk never produces something useful alignment-wise, so I disagree that it was moving the game forward.

They weren't really hurting anybody and you inserted yourself into the conversation very unnecessarily in a way that didn't redirect their energy into something productive. I tend to think that kind of thread shitting is scummy and a form of active lurking because it doesn't offer much to the conversation while making the commenter appear "active." Also, rereading that particular conversation, I didn't really care for Not_Mafia's responses to Espeonage.

prawn needs to stop just asking questions and actually do something.
TierShift seems like lynchbait to me. Not sure how I feel about him.
My only solid scum-read right now is prawn. Not sure about who his partner might be. If I see more from N_M, I might be able to meta-read him but that's all I've got for now.

I'd really like to know how TierShift is designated as "lynchbait" but prawneater fails to attain the same label.

New vote!~
VOTE: Not_Mafia

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the not_mafia read is mine i was just too lazy to post in this game at the time hold on a sec

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I'm going to agree with Anen. The "hard reset" seems premature and forced. It's fucking weird.

is it really that surprising? tth acted like she had all these strong reads and i told her that tiershift's response, while pretty derptacular, was kind of town and she should clear off the reads b/c it seemed like a lot of them (esp. the nm one) were built on too many biases and assumptions.

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I don't think prawn's posts are tryhard..

they are, but they're newb tryhard. not scum tryhard. difference.

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no, i said being dismissive of the read based on meta was scummy.

hey, etl, you wanted to talk to me, here i am

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Dude is unreadable and never actually engages the game to a point where he becomes readable.

how in date is this meta b/c i thought he was plenty engaged in quickness. Post 83 and Post 129 looked pretty "look busy" b/c anen's lolrandom routine is probably some form of softclaiming and not likely to get an answer, and 113 is an odd post to pick out and snipe on because there's not any particular reason why it stands out.

what's your problem w/ espeonage here?

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etl i'm going to be here for a little bit but if i come here and see you giving tth lip about how "eh, i wanted to talk to anti not you NO IMPERSONATING" i'm not going to be happy.

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well that was irritatingly uninformative

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etl...

i wait for you

i wait for the warm embrace from the woman i love

...

but all i'm

left
with

is

cold... air...

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*rubs eyes*
I don't think the

level

of Not_Mafia's engagement is scummy, it's the quote stripe-y way he's going about it and the really stale Aneninen vote that's turning me off. I don't know what the direction of the reads are or even what most of the reads are since all I'm getting are little fragments in response to what other people post.

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i guess i should stop playing with my own butthole now and read the last page

[Heartless]

I don't like prawn and I don't like heartless.
p-edit: i want to talk P on a C. Just making conversation to see what you're like this game.

get your fist out of your ass

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Hey Prawn, why do you want TierShift lynched?

Because of his "guys don't fight" post. It's an easy way to make yourself look like you're helping town without actually doing anything. It's also counterproductive for town because we had so few posts to pick over.

I feel like he just stole TTH's posts and put his name on it with this. I'm trying to figure out if it's scummy or if he just legit agrees with the reasoning and as assumed it as his own argument.

Alright that's probably about it for me as I have to go to class now. Serra and I are planning to chat after I finish work tomorrow so you can expect something more cohesive at that point.

In the meantime, lynch Kaboose and shoot NM.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

not mafia goes beyond just plain ol' VI into scummy when it's however short to deadline it is now (i think it's a couple days) and he doesn't seem to give any semblance of a shit about where his vote is going or what the fuck he's doing. he's just fucking around at this point.

and

i mean....

him voting anen in the first place felt a little off kilter to me to begin with. anen did something against "the rules" of rvs.
"though shalt not unvote an RVS wagon when it gets to L-1 lest everyone thinks you're cautious scum and catheterizes you with a garden hose."

it's a bleh vote for a reason that's accepted as "scummy" but isn't really if you think about it for longer than 2 seconds.


anen and nm have been around long enough to know that the rigid "rules" aren't really a one-size-fits-all kind of thing. that would've been forgivable, though. i don't expect first few pages to be perfect and i know it's a limited amount to work from but now we're on page 10 and the anen vote is still festering for no apparent reasons and tth has even called him on it and she was met with silence.

what's a specific example of what you're talking about etl?

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How in the world would that gain me towncred?

you're being obtuse. if you really want to cut the noise, you suck at it.

you should vote for not mafia.

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oh hey look who showed up

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I'm still reading and forming reads. The problem is that I have three scumreads... the most scummy-looking one is scummy in itself. There's someone who doesn't look that scummy but, his/her/their interactions would make very much sense as scum and in that case I do have an idea about the partner too...

Spoiler: anen... are you pondering what i'm pondering?

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2015 join date isn't enough of a newb for ya'?

o.O

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ok... sorry this is difficult to navigate.
who would you vote for at this point?

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Heartless I played a game with you as town before and you made more cases out of less in that game.. Now I do think you joined that game on D2, but you definitely seem less rabid than you did that game to catch scum. What's wrong this game?

lolWAT
we joined that game on

PAGE 34

and tth's cases were definitely not from less. they were from A LOT MORE (like... you know... a whole day and a couple flips)

i'm having to make shit from scratch. of course the dynamic is going to be different.

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prawn is suboptimal lynch

i'm kind of wondering why this nm wagon is so hard

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also, if you want cases, why dontcha look at Post 229?

it's not like nm is totally not here, which is what ppl are treating it as, he has 21 posts and that's a pretty decent number

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i've pegged scum early before. so has tth. do we get a prize for that too?

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1 day 3 hours 10 minutes

we got 3 more votes to go. c'mon ppl.

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etl or serra, i see you at the bottom

vote nm

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anti/TTH: Do you guys think tier is town?

i'm not sure about tth but i kind of do now. not really anything solid.

[Heartless]

20 hours and everyone's still twisting their own nipples

reposting this:

Hey Prawn, why do you want TierShift lynched?

Because of his "guys don't fight" post. It's an easy way to make yourself look like you're helping town without actually doing anything. It's also counterproductive for town because we had so few posts to pick over.

I feel like he just stole TTH's posts and put his name on it with this. I'm trying to figure out if it's scummy or if he just legit agrees with the reasoning and as assumed it as his own argument.

Alright that's probably about it for me as I have to go to class now. Serra and I are planning to chat after I finish work tomorrow so you can expect something more cohesive at that point.

In the meantime, lynch Kaboose and shoot NM.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

not mafia goes beyond just plain ol' VI into scummy when it's however short to deadline it is now (i think it's a couple days) and he doesn't seem to give any semblance of a shit about where his vote is going or what the fuck he's doing. he's just fucking around at this point.

and

i mean....

him voting anen in the first place felt a little off kilter to me to begin with. anen did something against "the rules" of rvs.
"though shalt not unvote an RVS wagon when it gets to L-1 lest everyone thinks you're cautious scum and catheterizes you with a garden hose."

it's a bleh vote for a reason that's accepted as "scummy" but isn't really if you think about it for longer than 2 seconds.


anen and nm have been around long enough to know that the rigid "rules" aren't really a one-size-fits-all kind of thing. that would've been forgivable, though. i don't expect first few pages to be perfect and i know it's a limited amount to work from but now we're on page 10 and the anen vote is still festering for no apparent reasons and tth has even called him on it and she was met with silence.

what's a specific example of what you're talking about etl?

everyone, stop trying to milk yourselves and vote notmafia

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oh hey, guess who's not posting even though he said he would?

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seriously, if we do not lynch nm today, ya'll will need a fucking pair of pliers to retrieve the corncob from my ass

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oh hey, guess who's not posting even though he said he would?

...and don't tell me he hasn't been around. yes he has.

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of course don't give us ANY FUCKING TIME TO DO ANYTHING

lucky...

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/sigh

i really don't believe the claim but i can't lynch it
UNVOTE:

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not mafia, you get your ass back in here and tell me why you dicked around this long and didn't claim this THIS AFTERNOON WHEN I KNOW GOOD AND FUCKING WELL YOU WERE ON

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you thought you were going to lurk out a wagon 24 hrs to deadline?

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FUCKING A THAT DOESN'T EVEN

SOUND

RIGHT

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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

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HOLD ON EVERYBODY
I WAS GOING TO GO TO SLEEP
NOW IT'S 3 AM AND I HAVE TO SEE WHAT BACKUP WAGON IT'S GONNA' BE

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nm, i'm hoping for your sake that you're scum and trying to force a no lynch b/c if you're town you are a dick

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VOTE: putin

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esp go on back to putin

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you agree?

y/n?

answer this first

[Heartless]

you are catching me at my most tired and incoherent state

if you had any decency you would apologize for this

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not sure if this'll make any sense but here goes:

>etl's been pretty hands-sitty this game. she doesn't seem too bothered by the fact we disagree about her top scum read (kaboose) and she didn't vote w/ us on not mafia when she said she's townreading us and not mafia is not a town read and she complimented us.
>the tiershift push is belabored and kind of stale and kind of BLEH??? and it's never re-evaluated, something i would expect etl to do
>jumping on tth when anen did and then backing off for no apparent reason
>the townread on us is overdone and there's not as much skepticism as i expected and as there usually is when etl is town in games w/ me

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I'm not sure where I want to go between putin/kaboose, prolly kaboose.

VOTE: kaboose
Need to read...

why?

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I can trust your meta read but sell me on prawn town

i really don't have any interest in doing this right now

[Heartless]

/sigh

even if she is scum, i really don't want to lynch etl this way. there was a reason tth and i were holding onto that read (we've had it for a while)

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UNVOTE:

[Heartless]

BECAUSE

it's last minute and i don't feel like i'm giving etl a fair chance to defend herself and ...it's etl

fuck

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How does this fit with your earlier scumread on prawn for the scum tryharding?

that was tth and this is me. that should've be pretty fucking obvious

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who reviewed this?

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/out 446

still /in for 442

Lucky's thing looks look due to the GIF factor...what is an example of types of roles (are they normal mafia roles or a bit bastard?)

I will be sticking to established role types and modifiers, nothing strange or invented. However, it doesn't necessarily mean "normal" as "normal" games have tight restrictions. I can't really give an example because I don't know what the players will gif me (pun intended!)

i don't fucking believe you, nm

i just don't

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We lose nothing by letting NM make the night.

wrong

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VOTE: notmafia

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I suspect he's telling the truth.

uh, as someone who's designed a few upicks/role madness games, i suspect he's full of shit

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no one says that in the sign up thread and then goes LOLZ LETZ PUT IN AN IC THAT HAS ASS BACKWARDS AS FUCK MECHANICS

i've never heard of an ic revealing as a night action. never. the only balancing utility i can think of is maybe allowing the action to be blockable?

even that's kind of a stretch

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didn't claim the gif either. ain't that nice?

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There's no good reason to lynch him today either way.

Hey Bulge, wanna get lynched?

i fucking have one and yes this is a softclaim

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Hey anti, have anything to say about ETL's response to you?

no, not right now

[Heartless]

fucking lol

don't start w/ me on this shit

[Heartless]

in our role pm there was a rationale that tied the gif w/ the role

what's yours?

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dont you run away from me now.

i'm looking b/c bulge's last post if fucking horrendous

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washed up child actor??????

that ties up w/ ic.????

[Heartless]

yeah i guess whatever

UNVOTE:

[Heartless]

FUCKING STOP NINJAING

[Heartless]

it's pretty awesome i don't know what the vote is

[Heartless]

Espeonage -
TierShift (2)- Putin on a Cracker, The Bulge
The Bulge - kaboose, tier, notmafia
prawneater (2)- Kaboose
Not_Mafia (1)- prawneater
Putin on a Cracker (2)- Aneninen
Kaboose (1)-
Aneninen -
Heartless -

Not Voting: Heartless, esp

[Heartless]

thank you for the information, professor

it's not like i wasn't ninja'd like a motherfucker

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:/

I've crumbed my role if anyone wants to check my ISO. Claiming makes my roles absolutely useless. Right now I'm just hoping scum is too stupid to see the crumb.

uhhhh
uhhhhhh

self watcher?

bulletproof?

I DON'T SEE SHIT

you're really going to fucking make me play 20 questions?

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well i'll give you that, bulge

if it's a scum tactic it worked like a fucking charm

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VOTE: not mafia

[Heartless]

Do you understand the use of a weak modifier?

yeah you claim that you're weak inthread and tell us who you're going to target.

then it's confounded by...

a whole bunch of stuff, protectives being one of them

[Heartless]

that only works if we have a doc, tier. he's not a hider

no, he tells us who he targets. If bulge lives, target is town. If bulge dies together with someone else, target is scum.

so scum kill bulge
not that hard of an equation

revote nm

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there is no fucking way someone who has been here as long as nm has think this is an acceptable way to claim as town

i refuse to believe that

[Heartless]

he would've revealed

24 HOURS AGO

, HE WOULDN'T HAVE TRIED TO LURK OUT THE WAGON WITH A MOD WHO'S ACTIVITY IS THREADY AND WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE

no

way

[Heartless]

Can we lynch prawn?

no

fuck this

[Heartless]

and i don't believe for a fucking second that he got a upick role pm and doesn't know how the mechanics of his role works

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AND the mechanic magically changed when the mod didn't reveal him to delay the reveal TO THE NEXT DAY

come on now

[Heartless]

did you not read your role pm?

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Look anti, even if you're right, we'll know for sure tomorrow.

I agree with targeting us.

it.
is.
important.
for
TODAY.

jeez....

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Yeah, I think bulge claims his target, other PR's avoid them, vig holds his shot.

yeah i'm SURE scum don't have anything to counter or subvert it

...

fucking a

[Heartless]

did you not read your role pm?

Not fully it transpires, I saw innocent child and didn't bother to read my role pm properly, I derped, simple as

how did you think the reveal mechanic worked? how did you know to reveal in the thread and not know it was a night action?

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also, what's your title? the thing that's bolded right under the gif?

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@Heartless I glanced for mention of being revealed automatically at the start of the game, didn't see it, assumed.

.......?????????????jfdkl;jfd;sajdf;jsaklfea

and then when you figured out you WEREN'T revealed at game start then what?

you didn't go back and READ YOUR ROLE PM?

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etl, this story is so fucking hard to believe

do you think so too? if not why not?

[Heartless]

it's like that game w/ ffery where she claimed to have jailkept someone AND targeted someone else while being fisted by a ninja

[Heartless]

No, I just thought "okay I'm the other varaint"

WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL THERE WERE 10 FUCKING HOURS TO DEADLINE

[Heartless]

so, we're just assuming that nm is incapable of simple cognitive tasks?

[Heartless]

even if you bought the part about him not knowing it was a night action

why would he wait until there WAS NO TIME TO DO ANYTHING

[Heartless]

yes. but still bad lynch.

oh my god and you want to fuss when i think you're scum?

[Heartless]

I didn't want to have to reveal myself, I was hoping the lynch wagon would dissipate since it just seemed to be about lurking which other users were guilty of, but then I was about to be lynched so I had to reveal myself, I'm not pretending to have played this anything but disastrously but it is what it is

if heartless is on your lynch wagon

YOU AIN'T LURKIN' IT OUT

[Heartless]

disastrously

THAT'S A WORD FOR IT

IF YOU'RE TOWN, THIS IS A CLINIC IN

HOW NOT TO CLAIM

[Heartless]

my vote's not moving from you

[Heartless]

if nm is what he says he is i will take all the fucking heat that comes with it

but i don't think he is

vote him

[Heartless]

I feel like you're voting me out of indignation more than actually scumreading me right now, which might be deserved but it's not getting us any closer to winning

no, i am voting you because i do not believe you

[Heartless]

i wish tth was here

this fucking sucks

[Heartless]

soooooooooooooooo what's it gonna be tomorrow?

"i don't know what happened. guess i got roleblocked. :trollface:"

we are going to be IN EXACTLY THE SAME POSITION WE ARE NOW

[Heartless]

jeez thanks there's just 22 minutes left and it's at 2 (tier and me)

[Heartless]

5

[Heartless]

Whom are we voting?

not mafia

[Heartless]

18 minutes

guess i'll go braid my armpit hair or something

[Heartless]

I've only got a few minutes. What's going on in here; Anti didn't catch me up.

[Heartless]

It's not taking me long to figure out why Anti doesn't believe the claim. It that was timed in a way that's

far

better for fakeclaiming scum to create chaos than a town IC and it doesn't help that it's an unusual mechanic.

Also, fuck you too ETL.
<3

[Heartless]

Well that was fun whilst it lasted

I don't believe that was the hammer. o.O

[Heartless]

10-0 WAY TO KEEP THE STREAK ALIVE, KABOOSE

HIGH FIVE

[Heartless]

Wins loses for that hydra I imagine. Would hate to be there when it ends.

eh, i know it has to end someday and i've completely accepted that.

[Heartless]

It's a bit of a judgement call, tbf. In uPicks and role madness games, there are likely many targeting town roles, so killing a town PR is more likely than killing scum, in which case I think claiming D1 is best. In other games, playing to draw the scum kill by being very town or suggesting you're a PR might work better, but is always riskier.

i disagree.
unless it's an open game where you know there's no town prs to target you, i say pgos should always claim day 1. there's no way to reliably draw JUST the nightkill because even if you do a good job in making yourself a juicy kill, you also get targeted by protectives and maybe some misc. investigatives (watchers, mostly).