Micro 494: Hardcore Mafia (Game Over)

[ZZZX]

META does not exist. It can not exist. If it did exist games would cease.

It had no purpose but to state that practically everyone in this game is playing with each other in another game.

yay for days

I agree with salmance

sal are you town btw?
Frogger?
Bins?

I'd go for finding sal's allingment first. shouldnt be too much work. I believe I can somewhat read sal decently by now

anyway I will vote the new comer. Really interesting comments here

vote: Kaboose

[ZZZX]

Also frogger why do you seem a little bit more serious than usual so early on.?

[ZZZX]

but this is the first game you push early game this hard. I just found it interesting, Not alignment indicative.

How serious are you taking this exact game btw?

[ZZZX]

VOTE: bins
rvs

Yo Gray, we prob played with each others once or twice before. Anyway I have a thing against rvs votes witht eh word "RVS" purely, they do not generate any discussion. Thoughts?

[ZZZX]

Frogger?

Town!

I lik dis


You can be town for now (lolwat)

[ZZZX]

but this is the first game you push early game this hard. I just found it interesting, Not alignment indicative.

How serious are you taking this exact game btw?

I can give you some completed town and scum reading where I push this hard this early.

Serious level? I want to win serious.

Game name?

HARDCORE MAFIA

But yea, interesting. I like this altitude of yours so far. This game should be fun.

[ZZZX]

I like Frogger for getting us out of RVS

-clap-

But Frogger, based simply on that post, and none of my answers, you thought I was scum. That's a stretch.

but tbh I find you pretty fake, So my vote sint really RVS at this stage

@grey Thoughts on Frogger v Kabooose?

[ZZZX]

Yeah, I just thought it was odd. Like "did you call each other this morning and tell each other what you were gonna wear?" kind of joking thing? yes? no?

Z, I said we were out of RVS, so I would imagine any vote on me is a real vote.

The fact you said we are out of rvs doesnt matter to any of the 4-5 people who didnt even vote yet. that much is true you know.
also @gray do you find Kaboose's post legit? I found them a little forced, esp the first two posts

[ZZZX]

Interesting

Gray can be town for now too

[ZZZX]

sal are you town btw?
Frogger?
Bins?

FU for leaving me out.
Also Kaboose can be nullscum. Omg how can I be so good at this

wiat gameplay you are in this game?

Aweasom! I cant remeber the last time we played. we used to be together in every single game we played. What happened m8?

Btw are you town?

[ZZZX]

pedit: Wont even mind as long as I am there, will help me know what you are easier

[ZZZX]

Aweasom! I cant remeber the last time we played. we used to be together in every single game we played. What happened m8?

Btw are you town?

Well I unoficially retired but got bored one day and returned through an alt. But eh, decided that gameplay has a rich history so I revived him too.
Do I look scum to you? DO I?

Retiring is bad but I know

I used to be retired when uni started, assuming it will be the same but I will make sure not have more than one game at a time when I have uni which should be do-able


and daymn

gameplay is town too

cool now I can make a townblok (tm)

[ZZZX]

I want everyone to be active enough for us to get a lynch in an avrg of 2 days

faster games give more chances to catch scum to slips and emotional breakdowns-mistakes

[ZZZX]

Frogger and Gameplay are obvtown currently.

I'm not scum.

So that removes three possible lynches for today just like that.

Peeking at the player list, brb

If I'm obvtown why are you voting me?

Sometimes I wish for an ika to make a lynch actually happen
But right now I am 63% sure kaboose is scum

[ZZZX]

town

scum

Fro99er

Bins

gameplay506

GrayFoxxxx
Marquis

Kaboose
ZZZX

Mainez
Salamence20

So which of the none underlined players are scum guyz?

May you explain how the hell this readlist is supposed to get read btw?
p-edit:lol

[ZZZX]

But right now I am 63% sure kaboose is scum

Why?

Hes fake as fk, and I feel hes scum by my infamous gut

[ZZZX]

town

scum

Fro99er

Bins

gameplay506

GrayFoxxxx
Marquis

Kaboose
ZZZX

Mainez
Salamence20

So which of the none underlined players are scum guyz?

Sorry I'm at work and rushing a bit.

Thanks,

For now I wana hear from Marquis and Bins and Mainez, 2 of them are people most of us can read pretty well which is nice

[ZZZX]

Its null.

Let's end the rules discussion already

[ZZZX]

Because this discussion won't catch scum and is pointless

[ZZZX]

Because this discussion won't catch scum and is pointless

Is there a certain topic of conversation that does catch scum?

Who knows. Maybe. But there are topics that don't

And we move away from those

Unless your goal in game is to waste effort of players that is the only answer

[ZZZX]

@Mod: Let's see if I can make ZZZX appear out of thin air

Poof!

[ZZZX]

Prod Recieved. lemme read up

[ZZZX]

VOTE: zzzx

I do think he is trying too hard to form reads.

Serious vote time.

P.S. Hi gameplay

I am barely trying to play this seriously like Team Mafia, For *reasons*

[ZZZX]

zzzx is leaning town but what's the point of asking people specifically if they're town? just for fun or?

Reactions help

[ZZZX]

VOTE: zzzx

I do think he is trying too hard to form reads.

As opposed to who?

As opposed to what? Dont like my vote?

Zzzx is just establishing reads off the thinest of leads in an effort to look town

So Sally is forming reads scummy now? Isnt that what you are doing right now anyway in your post?

I am sad Sal. Are you actually scum?

[ZZZX]

Also Happy Scumday ZZX!

Thanks!

[ZZZX]

just got back home and re-read the thread. zzzx said kaboose is fake but to be honest, zzzx seems more fake than kaboose.
got some questions coming up...

If you think so

[ZZZX]

Aweasom! I cant remeber the last time we played. we used to be together in every single game we played. What happened m8?

Btw are you town?

Well I unoficially retired but got bored one day and returned through an alt. But eh, decided that gameplay has a rich history so I revived him too.
Do I look scum to you? DO I?

Retiring is bad but I know

I used to be retired when uni started, assuming it will be the same but I will make sure not have more than one game at a time when I have uni which should be do-able


and daymn

gameplay is town too

cool now I can make a townblok (tm)

why do you want to make a townblock, aren't townblocks bad for town?

your townblock is establishing pretty early in the game too.

Why are town blocks bad for town?

Town blocks literally helped us win the last nightless we played, yes it wasnt perfect and needed reforming but the point is to be flex-able and you can do perfect, because scum cant NK nobody

[ZZZX]

Gray hasn't done anything to strike me as town. Why does he need to clarify a vote is rvs? And he has a strange attitude towards votes. Just scum, trust me.

I don't see why ZZ is scum sorry.

Hi sala !

Gameplay's Reasons Gray is scum.

1.Hasnt done anything town (how specific of you)
2.Casts an RVS vote
3.Strange attitude towards votes (what does this even mean)
4.Just trust that he is scum.

Your case is air tight gameplay506, I don't really know what to say. One more thing though.

I want everyone to be active enough for us to get a lynch in an avrg of 2 days

Reads: I think we are all town! Despite...
Sala( scummy), Gray (

scum

) rest need to be figured out

is the part on sala serious? can you explain why sala is scummy?
he only had 2 posts prior to this post of yours and one was an RVS vote and the other commenting on the 4 day deadline.

Sala is scummy cus gut. But he is scummy so don't ask me omg

Really? Your case against me was so good, why resort to "cus gut feeling trust me, dont ask any questions" for sala? I know why.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: gameplay506

Anyone that has to continually say trust me, shouldn't be trusted. Gameplays scum hunting is contrived.

To be fair at this stage its not like any better reasons exist, A few of those are good for an early on vote, Add that to the fact that it is gameplay so.. yea. I suppose your vote is an OMGUS?

[ZZZX]

just got back home and re-read the thread. zzzx said kaboose is fake but to be honest, zzzx seems more fake than kaboose.
got some questions coming up...

Do explain

he looks like he's trying very hard to contribute, by asking questions like, "are you town" or posting stuff like post 20 with comments like "interesting but not alignment indicative", wants to solve the game (post 53) but goes on to unnecessary and redundant posts like post 48. post 65 is a bad post too.

pedit: why so many posts, haven't read them.

I see what you are saying about zzz.

FoS

zzz

Let me deconstruct dis

I ask people like sal/gameplay/bins/marq if they are town because I can work out reactions for it and it is fun. It is non allingment indicative, you can even see gameplay's reaction to his name being missing which proves its something that many people including me do.

"Interesting but not allignment indicative = useful later not useful now", I will play with my gut as the leading weapon and I am not changing that. saying I scum read someone because of gut isnt a scumtell now is it?
I am not tryharding enough to not fluff at all. fluffing is what makes mafia what it is. overfluffing is bad but having fun is why I do mafia, so,... yea?

[ZZZX]

on second thought, i'm not comfortable voting now. there's still 3 days for me to read and analyse.

UNVOTE:

Why are you so reductant(is that even how its written) on giving a vote right now. doesn't feel too right imo

[ZZZX]

Zzzx is fabricating reads.

Show me where I "fabricate" reads

[ZZZX]

How did Mar towntell with those 2 posts, Sala?

By obviously seeing what I saw with zzzx

Do Explain.

[ZZZX]

Zzzx is faking this shit.

I believe you are faking this read about me being fake. Unless you have another meaning for fake as my posts are direct and to the point.

[ZZZX]

So you are voting me based on a gut read?

Do YOU have any solid arguments, even any arguments at all, againt me?

Pedit: My case on you is based on things from the first few pages. Thus my reasons are bad simply because there wasn't enough of anything.
To get this straight - you are voting me for a gut read and a case ( which I openly admitted that I used as a pressuring tool) based on pre page 3 things? Mmm
You sure you are not just OMGUS'ing?

Lol. I'm not going to keep repeating myself. Gameplay seems to be accusing me of what I said he is doing.

Gameplay CONTINUES to give reads like "trust me" "my gut" "you're scum deal with it" while not actually providing any susbstance. That's why I am voting him. The difference here is I have reasons you can actually see. Gameplay is just begging us to trust him.

Hes town. This is how he plays.

You should be on zzzx

Eh false alarm, sal should be town for this post. but his read on me sucks anyway

[ZZZX]

btw am i right to say this: scum can defend their partner because it's flipless?

i would like to hear people's opinion on how to approach this game given that it's flipless, i'm pretty lost about this part of the game.

Push solo players and ignore all interactions because we have no clue who is who.

[ZZZX]

VOTE: ZZZX

is not town.

I'm serious!

What is everyone's opinion of Marquis from these two posts?

Do not like the lurking

I would have expert marquis to had used 12 types of trolling and posted 90 posts by now, disappointed and mb scum

[ZZZX]

That's a late vote, when I'm pretty sure this game was out of RVS. We've had plenty of things to talk about, and he attacked ZZZX when I believe it was I who was under the gun at that time. Then the "I'm serious" doesn't that add a bit of WIFOM that no one seemed to care about at the time?

I like ZZZX as town for a reason. I won't share it unless I'm alive D2.

I don't know if that's enough to lynch someone really...

(I'm going to get so scum read for this but I don't even care because it's the truth)

Everyone is posting great except for Marquis and Bins, but Bins 1 post states they just got back from the States and will post tomorrow. So that's enough for me to focus on Marquis here.

Why not take this lurker out, keeps all the talkative people around, which to me makes it easier to catch scum.

Now that's not the entire reason I'm suggesting this because Marquis, to me, looks very scum with those two posts.

Its VTs vs. goons.

Youre not a PR so I have no idea why you want to hold shit until 4 days from now

There is no NK btw

[ZZZX]

ZZZX this all just feels like scum!you trying to be potentially townread after a flip.
like this isn't your towngame or anything even close to it

There are no flips!

^This

also my summoner, What do you command?

[ZZZX]

VOTE: ZZZX

is not town.

I'm serious!

What is everyone's opinion of Marquis from these two posts?

Hes town as fuck

[ZZZX]

page 9: I dont liek interactions of Mainez/Sal interactions. Kinda going back and forth about salmance honest. one stubborn fella

also bins is town

[ZZZX]

I give up.

Youre trying to force a policy lynch when ZZZX plans to lurk the rest of the game by fabricating reads early.

I WILL NOT FUCKING STAND IT. GAMEPLAY IS TOWN. QUIT PINNING HIM AS DUMBSCUM.

soo now its lurking just because I had a healthy ammount of sleep and didnt log here the moment I woke up

riiight, fake bullshit here

Vote:Salmance

You should know me better sal, I fucking hate fake bullshit like this and the fact that it comes from scum 90% is amusing

[ZZZX]

ZZZX this all just feels like scum!you trying to be potentially townread after a flip.
like this isn't your towngame or anything even close to it

There are no flips!

that's my point.
it feels like he's scum trying to overwhelm us with his ~contributions~ and ~commitment~ to give the impression he was lynched as town since we'll never know for sure

like this play is completely unlike any town zzzx i've seen before and i'm not seeing the little tics of town!zx honesty that i always look out for

Well I try not to lurk at any nightless e.g. Team Mafia. Re-read that game etc and tell me if it is differant. Any I dont get your case at all. and we should not assume anyone is anything after we lynch them, it only serves wifom and egos

[ZZZX]

also

scum can tunnel away and it won't even matter

(coach) Sal (coach)

[ZZZX]

I give up.

Youre trying to force a policy lynch when ZZZX plans to lurk the rest of the game by fabricating reads early.

I WILL NOT FUCKING STAND IT. GAMEPLAY IS TOWN. QUIT PINNING HIM AS DUMBSCUM.

Your confidence is impressive in any case

^

[ZZZX]

i was prooooded

zzzx is seriously scum!zx like it was not a joke

more to come when i'm not busy

no

[ZZZX]

wait its 12? i thought its 24 lol

[ZZZX]

Z's Wall of doom V1.0ver 9Th0sand
:
Town
ZZZX
Fro99er
gameplay506
Bins
Marquis
GrayFoxxxx
Kaboose
Mainez
Salamence20
Scum to be burned

[ZZZX]

Ima go and check other games

[ZZZX]

wait its 12? i thought its 24 lol

What?

the prods

[ZZZX]

Aweasom! I cant remeber the last time we played. we used to be together in every single game we played. What happened m8?

Btw are you town?

Well I unoficially retired but got bored one day and returned through an alt. But eh, decided that gameplay has a rich history so I revived him too.
Do I look scum to you? DO I?

Retiring is bad but I know

I used to be retired when uni started, assuming it will be the same but I will make sure not have more than one game at a time when I have uni which should be do-able


and daymn

gameplay is town too

cool now I can make a townblok (tm)

why do you want to make a townblock, aren't townblocks bad for town?

your townblock is establishing pretty early in the game too.

Why are town blocks bad for town?

Town blocks literally helped us win the last nightless we played, yes it wasnt perfect and needed reforming but the point is to be flex-able and you can do perfect, because scum cant NK nobody

deliberately forming town blocks looks like something scum will do, especially given the fact that this game is flipless.

It something I love to make personally , and i have done in nearly every completed nightless game i palyed to date. It helps me make plans

[ZZZX]

zzzx doesn't have me as town?

that's damning

Marquis y u feel so robotic, Not as energetic as the dudududu soul i remeber

[ZZZX]

Oh...yeah. Well, Woody screwed us. We couldn't recover even though we did a good job recovering

trying.

Anyway.

Could be scum:
1 of Fox or Kaboose (can't be a team, leaning Kaboose)
Mainez
1 of ZZZX or Marquis (can't be a team, leaning Marquis)
Sala

I'm not sure on the above completely, but I believe Bins and Gameplay are town.

I'm going to do some meta diving.

actually i really like this list

I'm sure scum do really like when a town person town reads them.

isnt that kinda... global in reality?

[ZZZX]

I give up.

Let me know when ZZZX dies

So ZZZX is scum for being fake? And lurking?

lmao

also liking kaboose more

Vote:Mainez

is also a valid choice for being the 2nd biggest scum read I have.

[ZZZX]

Just woke up and I will read this later. Kinda a prodge

[ZZZX]

ZZZX LYNCH

Salmanxe your tunneling is something town you didn't do in forever.and you tunneling me feels like removing people who can read you. Fact you got many defenders is another thing about the flipless. Which is also a reason there is huge resistance to mainez and sal wagons except a few peeps

[ZZZX]

Z's Wall of doom V1.0ver 9Th0sand
:
Town
ZZZX
Fro99er
gameplay506
GrayFoxxxx
Bins
Marquis
Kaboose
Mainez
Salamence20
Scum to be burned

Rose gray a few levels. He is so town

[ZZZX]

ZZZX LYNCH

Salmanxe your tunneling is something town you didn't do in forever.and you tunneling me feels like removing people who can read you. Fact you got many defenders is another thing about the flipless. Which is also a reason there is huge resistance to mainez and sal wagons except a few peeps

In this case, there would be better people to tunnel then you.

Coughmainezisabitchcough

Pretty sure I am the best player at reading g your alignment in this game... By far.

[ZZZX]

ZZZX LYNCH

Salmanxe your tunneling is something town you didn't do in forever.and you tunneling me feels like removing people who can read you. Fact you got many defenders is another thing about the flipless. Which is also a reason there is huge resistance to mainez and sal wagons except a few peeps

In this case, there would be better people to tunnel then you.

Coughmainezisabitchcough

Pretty sure I am the best player at reading g your alignment in this game... By far.

You read me in a marathon.

Woo

Sal are you throwing our 10+ games history all together now?

And reading players in a marathon is at least two times harder than normal games anyway

[ZZZX]

I copped Sala in our marathon so I didn't have to read

Lol

[ZZZX]

Sal are you throwing our 10+ games history all together now?

Sala...respond!

ZZZX has played with me as scum once.

As a fucking traitor who had to out as mafia to prevent town from vigging me.

He has no expierence with Salscum.

I played with scum you at least 3 games. And got you lynched in all of them.

[ZZZX]

Try me, froggie

ZZZX, hold me back!

Fro99er, He is just pissing you off, Don't let his words piss you off.

I believe Sal is our lynch idealy today. But I will go with mainez too.

I will go for sal first tho as I said before
VOTE: Salmance

[ZZZX]

Sal are you throwing our 10+ games history all together now?

Sala...respond!

ZZZX has played with me as scum once.

As a fucking traitor who had to out as mafia to prevent town from vigging me.

He has no expierence with Salscum.

I played with scum you at least 3 games. And got you lynched in all of them.

Link them, cause youre full of shit

I will link them later, after going thro 100s of old games hopefully because you know how hard it is to find a game if you have no name but I will see what I can find later, brah

[ZZZX]

Link them

I would like this too.
ZZZX just sheeped me a third time...(Kaboose, Mainez, Sala)

UNVOTE:

you sheeped me on Kaboose you know. also Sala was my original idea and i only moved because it seems noone wanted it. once it went back I went back. I never "sheeped" you..

[ZZZX]

Fine you didn't sheep me on kab which was my mistake in misremebring (which was at RVs at that time)

And mainez. Maybe. Sure. Why not?

But salmanxe was the lynch I always desired. Its bs.

Also salmande I'll do that later. Meanwhile feel free to vote me if you think that it will hit scum frogger. I don't care that much tbh

[ZZZX]

ZZ also knows I'm not scum.

Town read me as most towny until JUUUUST now that I called him out.

Suddenly I'm scum?

Did I ever call you scum? You are wrong town. I never said you are scum.

But stop saying I said things I didn't ssy (this sounded way better in my head)

[ZZZX]

Also since you are scum reading me for sheeping you when I had more genuine reasons than you for two out of the three wsgons is funny. And i xant even refute it because there is nothing there that even says i am scum or antthing. Oh well?

[ZZZX]

If it hits scum, frogged

Fuck english

[ZZZX]

Better?

[ZZZX]

Like it wsdnt even possible to mistake that in any way seriously

Unless I am a vot3 dodger and that was the intent of my post somehow ).)

[ZZZX]

is flailing now scum-tell worthy? Because it never was, never is,never will.

If you dont think I am town then lynch me already, Because I proved how you are misunderstanding my posts @frogger and didnt even attack me using good logic about it. Just lynch me and do your think. I am being flatline ignored. @Sal you think I am stalling right? Fuck off. I am not spending 5 hours to prove you wrong at this moment.

Thats basically it.

If you think I ams cum?

Shut the hell up and lynhc me.

Thats all.

[ZZZX]

Out of house at the moment so vla

[ZZZX]

ZZZX (4) - Salamence20, Marquis, Fro99er, Mainez

2 out of 4 are people I heavily scum read, our of the remaining 2 one has no reason, and one is marquis who does whatever he fucking wants anyway

~reading on

[ZZZX]

Take chances! Make Mistakes! Get Messy!

VOTE: ZZZX

so you hammered town. sigh grats

ill try to read before GIF notices to give my reads. gee thanks guys

[ZZZX]

Nothing to add here, i swear guys if you dont lynch sal and he wins game as scum I am fucking flipping out and will haunt the fuck out of all of you

Dont think about lynching frogger gameplay

avoid bins/marquis/kaboos

and fucking kill mainez/sal

[ZZZX]

Also fuck you guys I didnt even get to play... meh

[ZZZX]

@gameplay just promise me to live with frogger

@Frogger promise me never to lynch gameplay

you two are the town's block. dont ever get lynched

[ZZZX]

At least I would be at ease we didnt throw the game to scum if we do this

[ZZZX]

Bins Kaboose is doing stupid shiat, but I don't think he is scum.
What about Marquis?

STUBID SHIT DOES NOT GIVE FREE PASS

GAMEPLAY PLEASE

[ZZZX]

Zzzx is fucking scum, everyone shut the fuck up with your wifom bombs.

We lynch Bins/Kaboose tomorow and gg

lynch bins and kaboose if you want but get salmance in the fucking way

if you dont i will go insane

[ZZZX]

just dont think about touching frogger and gameplay

odnt fucking dare

[ZZZX]

gege bins, Sry I ended up dying so early there

[ZZZX]

gege bins, Sry I ended up dying so early there

its ok <3333

<3

also thanks gif for one of hte funnest games I have seen in a while. followed it hard even after i died