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Post #70 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:54 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 67, Kaboose wrote:Who said anything about you being specifically mafia? According to Game's claims you're supposed to be WWs... Please get your scum claims in order.
You didn't answer my question. Playing semantics is scummy.
As long as this or Game go today and the other tomorrow then I'm cool with it.
#ThoseDiscardsTho
So me and the guy I would have hammered are both mafia?
No, that doesn't mean zilch. When a mafia member looks like on the chopping board, you vote to distance, even hammer to the extent of not looking too obvious.
That seems like an unnecessary Hail Mary for D1. Thus early in D1 at that.
In post 85, Kaboose wrote:So I'm scum because I think you and game are partners, and because scum can't bus?
Yes for first part, no for second. Why would scum hammer a partner this early?
There is not a time limit for scum to hammer a partner. I have seen a few games where someone has bussed his own partner, and he gets town credit from the off, and pretty much go the whole game without suspicion simply because of that 'phrase'. It gets thrown around much, especially if the partner being hammered only has a week scum PR where it's deemed worth throwing away.
In post 85, Kaboose wrote:So I'm scum because I think you and game are partners, and because scum can't bus?
Yes for first part, no for second. Why would scum hammer a partner this early?
There is not a time limit for scum to hammer a partner. I have seen a few games where someone has bussed his own partner, and he gets town credit from the off, and pretty much go the whole game without suspicion simply because of that 'phrase'. It gets thrown around much, especially if the partner being hammered only has a week scum PR where it's deemed worth throwing away.
Why would that be done in this game?
It can be done in any game, if there is a team of 2, in aid to distance from your buddy that is on the chopping board. You aren't going to sit and watch your buddy go down and defend him because when he is lynched later, and flips scum, they'll look at you defending him from being lynched before.
You bus in aid to distance so nobody looks at you in the same light if your defending him.
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Post #100 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:07 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 97, Kaboose wrote:No I meant you would look more town as a scum person doing it earlier like you "tried" I still think you're making a big deal about "hammering" when you put them on L-1..
It's my defense. What do you mean big deal?
Also you are avoiding my original question. What reason do you have to lynch me and gameplay? Please try to be a little less hypothetical.
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Post #103 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:18 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
@ Kop
If I was on a scum team, and I was at L-1 and my partner wanted to hammer me, I would think he was dumb. There is no GOOD reason to do it. It's not worth the risk.
If I was on a scum team, and I was at L-1 and my partner wanted to hammer me, I would think he was dumb. There is no GOOD reason to do it. It's not worth the risk.
At least on D1. You significantly lower your chances of winning.
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Post #116 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:47 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 112, Kop wrote:At most people only claim when at L-1, to which was going to happen here, there is a distinct possibility that you jumped off to prevent a claim, to which could have been a possibility we could have seen through this lie, later on in the game when things don't add up.
It could relate to this situation, but not 100%.
He wasn't at L-1 when I changed votes. I even wanted him to claim before I thought I would be hammering.
I understand the situation fully. What I need to know is how its applicable in this game. It would have been such a bad strategy.
So kaboose saying me and game are partners follows bad logic, and in most cases that equals scum.
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Post #123 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:09 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 122, Wisdom wrote:It's not a town tell. Ugh, this is tiring. Can you play some games and get some experience before you start talking in absolutes?
Lol. Then why bring it up?
I say bad logic is a scum tell.
You say bad logic doesnt equal scum in any way.
You say town use badlogic more than scum.
You say badlogic isnt a town tell.
I can't even keep up with where you're at.
you are just posting argumentative fluff, that contradicts itself.
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Post #129 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:19 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 125, Wisdom wrote:Bad logic is bad logic. It's not indicative of town or scum. You are trying to argue it indicates scum when it doesn't, because town also follow bad logic all the time.
Clearer?
I'll repeat it for you, but with more detail. Since I'm new I'll try not to overstep my abilities.
Scum will use badlogic to get a mislynch. If town uses bad logic it's usually found out in hindsight.
Kaboose's bad logic is right here, for me to see now.
Questioning someone's bad logic is probably the most utilized tool to catch scum. The wiki RECOMMENDS it. Youre way off here.
Again I think you are just trying to argue every point I make, not because it's why you think, but just to argue.
For you to not see where I'm coming from has to be blatant.
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Post #167 (isolation #47) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:30 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 165, Kaboose wrote:What do you want Game? It's page 7! What should I have to argue about?
Foxxxx is scum for the doc discard.
Game is scum for the JKer discard.
Wisdom is town because he's been agreeing with me.
Mala is town because I want her to be.
Kop is town because I have a feeling(I'll be scumread for calling him that but I really don't care)
Aronis is scum because Star Wars is terrible.
The other two are scum for not posting.
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Post #168 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:31 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 164, gameplay506 wrote:He seems OK actually. Just slightly more different than last game. Maybe it was because I am usually accustomed to seeing him OmGUs hardcore or whatever. I may may not read him again if he starts ringing some bells.
In post 169, Kaboose wrote:
Says everyone should want mafia, says he wanted mafia, says he tried to get WW. Then discards to me what is a helpful town role. How many scum claims do you need?
I don't get it, why couldn't he be telling the truth about it? Gets a ww card and four town cards, wants to be ww, so selects ww and town as alignment and gets town.
Hey look here for why I'm not Scum for throwing away doc.
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Post #180 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:02 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 139, Kaboose wrote:You know who I think is starting to look scummier? Gameplay, I just played a game with him and he was uber town balls to the walls.
Last game this, last game that. Like stop with this last game crap. I never play the same one game to another because I refuse to let myself be read that easily. That's when this game gets stupid. All these oldfucks on here who "Oh this is 'blahscum/blahtown" because this is the 0412837582740238 game I've played with them is stupid.
Let's also add the game you keep referring to was the most insane, different, hard game ever. I developed a drinking problem over it. Like there were no flips or NKs, which this game will have. So of course I'm going to play different.
In post 164, gameplay506 wrote:He seems OK actually. Just slightly more different than last game. Maybe it was because I am usually accustomed to seeing him OmGUs hardcore or whatever. I may may not read him again if he starts ringing some bells.
So, just so we're clear here, you do know you can't base everything off of last game in this game right? Like meta doesn't exist, and what I did last game or any game before this has nothing to do with this game right?
Again, Kaboose saying meta is unreliable. Only when he isn't using it it seems.