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In post 38, FakeGod wrote:DGB and I worked out a new version of scumputer. It's quite experimental.
Optimal play for town is to scumhunt as normal and hope that their cop don't randomly claim page 1.
It's okay I'll counter claim on page three so the real cop gets tired of this bullshit and actually claims
That should put an end to this nonsense-
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[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p7085603]post 44[/url], BlueBloodedToffee"]Flubber, what did you dislike about post 20?[/quote]
It looks like he's new to being scum and doesn't know how to distance from someone
The first thing I thought of when I read it was my first scum game (chosen)-
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This isn't how pressure works.
Also if you do flip scum I think you've cleared yuriko-
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In post 170, Xayzeck wrote:In post 123, Flubbernugget wrote:Also if you do flip scum I think you've cleared yuriko
How does that work?
Bulb looked like scum not knowing how to sell a counterwagon-
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That's it?-
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In post 197, GrayFoxxxx wrote:In post 181, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 170, Xayzeck wrote:In post 123, Flubbernugget wrote:Also if you do flip scum I think you've cleared yuriko
How does that work?
Bulb looked like scum not knowing how to sell a counterwagon
So bulb is scum for not properly selling a counter wagon?
Sorry didn't realize that we are going with the "guilty until proven innocent" approach.
Youre calling him scum from the basis he is already scum...
Vacuous truth is a thing-
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In post 236, FakeGod wrote:People who haven't given their thoughts on the no lynch plan should give them.
My biggest reservation is having stronger player's picked off-
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In post 258, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Oh?
It's because you're vote parking on Bulba and I don't understand your reason for doing so.
His straw grasps don't come off as genuine
He's also selective with his inquisitions-
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UNVOTE:
Okay I went to provide the wallpost on bulba and noticed the majority of it was still in rvs. I understand the town case on him after re-reading his ISO, especially points brought up by FakeGod and Espe like in post 267
VOTE: grayfox
The majority of his case on me comes from a misrep I've explained as such that was ignored. And he needs to come out of the woodwork.
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I should be able to try to re-sort this now that I'm at a computer. Here comes the reads list:
Bulb: Town. Explained.
GreyFoxx: Scum. Explained.
Yuriko: Null/Scum. I see the same frustration in Yuriko that people seem to be seeing in Bulb. But at the same time, there's posts like 238. Why would someone not be satisfied with someone's answers but be too lost in the game to follow up with that? And there's the no lynch vote. I want to scum read it but instead of asking "why was no lynch optimal over a different vote?" FakeGod immediately accused Yuriko of hiding behind his no lynch proposal.
This is partially my fault for being tunnely and half-attentive to the game, but I think the town should have initially been less aggressive with this slot and tried more to put it into a "foot in mouth" situation. If Yuriko is scum this shouldn't be difficult to do.
FakeGod: Town. The only thing that pings scum is his posting at yuriko I already mentioned, but I can see that coming from town. Actually, 230 just shows he approached the situation differently than I would have.
Espeonage: Town. There's not a lot of substance in his posting up till around post 100ish. 106 I disagree with, but I can see as town thinking Yuriko tried to modify with the intent of misrep.
Xayzeck: Null. Originally agreed with him on his bubla vote, but I'm not sure why it was worth pulling Runner from L-1 if he posts later he still doesn't like the Runner slot. Other than that, nothing screams town or scum here.
Runner: Null. He brings up a good point that FakeGod proposed a no lynch, which I really can't imagine a scumputer effectively handling. I am indecisive as to whether or not his lack of activity comes from scum or just how he was lashed out at.
BBT: Null/Scum. BBT has recently had a very opaque and inorganic/mechanical playstyle. Unfortunately, that kind of meta is easy to play to as scum. His accusations that FakeGod isn't scumhunting are bad.-
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In post 202, Flubbernugget wrote:Okay so then if my hypothesis is false we drop the conclusion
Accusing me of knowing someone's alignment 100% is bullshit and you know it
This is my explanation as to why your initial case on me is wrong and it was ignored-
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In post 295, GrayFoxxxx wrote:In post 292, Flubbernugget wrote:Show me where I'm doing it to begin with
I had originally thought Bulb was more aggressively questioning rvs votes than anything else but that really wasn't the case. He was just hanging onto rvs longer than optimal
What changed your mind, besides him voting you?
You should actually read that post you were able to go into the future and read-
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In post 290, YurikoJasmine wrote:In post 288, Espeonage wrote:I would be so happy if Yuri and Flub cross voted and people started expressing if they are happy to compromise.
I am currently against lynching anyone other than yuri, but I think thatthis could be a good situation for pressure.
I do not believe he scumread me so this is not gonna happen
And I never really get either wagons (honest and flubber)
So you think I'm town?
If you see a wagon growing on town why would you not say anything about it?-
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In post 301, GrayFoxxxx wrote:People called you scum for your reads. You change them for no apparent reason (other than bulb voting you).
You really think bulb of all players scares me or something-
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In post 385, Xayzeck wrote:In post 327, Flubbernugget wrote:What more do you want
I want elaboratin, not very surfacey reads
Ohhh so you want quote walls
Hahaha no-
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In post 420, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 418, Flubbernugget wrote:Esp's tunnel bothers me
Reason being?
The tunnel was blatantly stalling progression of the game-
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In post 376, Espeonage wrote:In post 375, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
I mean, just because you seem convinced that Yuri is scum that doesn't mean that's what she'll flip.
I would happily stake many things on yuri being scum rn.
Also look at how willing you are to think I think fakegod is town. I don't have a fakegod read, because it is just asking for trouble to try and read someone off purposeful non involvement. I can probably fabricate reads for you if you want me to lie to so much. Would you like me to make you a reads list and put in what I want you to think I am reading everyone as. Because I can probably do that. But what I'm trying to tell you is that my reads on other people at this point aren't worth sharing because I'm not going to settle for a lynch on anyone else. I would actually rather scum has no idea what my reads are outside what I have to give to be a part of the game, considering the context.
So tl;dr. Would you like me to lie to you, or would you rather lynch yuri? Those are your choices.
Are you saying fg is being purposely non-involved?
I have no idea how you see that-
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In post 431, Espeonage wrote:non-involved is maybe inaccurate, he wants to be left for a while for data gathering purposes and I am willing to wait until such a time that it will actually be fruitful to engage with him properly.
None of that data gathering directly involves him.
He can gather it while playing the game. Hell he could run his tests from the dead thread if he needs no involvement-
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In post 449, Espeonage wrote:In post 448, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Yeah, I don't see why that makes her scum. Like, help me out here.
She cuts your post down to the part that she wants to respond to. I do that all the time...
I explain it in my post. Because the rest of my post has contextual information that is then omitted.
Also in that vain I'm not fond of cases that rely on one slip up that scum would make-
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In post 529, Runner wrote:In post 513, Flubbernugget wrote:I don't understand why you're concerned with gray hammering minus a claim when yriko was a vt anyway
That comes off as a boilerplate comment very likely to come from scum
We didn't know she was a VT at the time. When someone accused you of knowing someone's alignment a priori yesterday you rightly said it was 100% bullshit. How was I, or anyone, supposed to know she was a VT before the flip? Has there never been a town PR who's acted scummy before?
What does boilerplate mean?
I don't think you scumslipped insider knowledge of alignment
But if we gave yuriko a chance to claim and she claimed vt, she would have been lynched just the same. So wishing they had claimed first is wasted energy, and I can't see a town motivation for expressing that wish in thread
"Boilerplate" was poor word choice. I wanted to use the word "filler" but with a stronger connotation that the intent of the statement was to try and look town (as opposed to actually being town)-
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In post 620, Runner wrote:No cc from me either.
Was going to post about some stuff but I'm guessing whatever FG has to say will be more important (it better be cuz you'll be RB'd for the rest of the game).
Whatever fg says may be important but how does that make what you have to say meaningless or something?
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