Micro 525 - Shenanigans - Lyncher Victory (?!)

[Parama]

VOTE: Bins

she knows why

[Parama]

wifom, duh
he's probably -not- pgo but nobody is going to cc him, so he could be

[Parama]

wifom, duh
he's probably -not- pgo but nobody is going to cc him, so he could be

[Parama]

it's not L-1 but it could be

[Parama]

bins get in here and put yourself at l-1

[Parama]

well i'm the jester so ofc he isn't

[Parama]

why are you asking me to rolefish, soren
why are you rolefishing, soren

and i'm definitely lyncher too, i'm actually all three non-town roles in one convenient package, this is a bastard mod game
hey bins wanna get lynched?

[Parama]

this is basically a troll setup anyways

[Parama]

how badly do you want a quick day 1

[Parama]

that's not actually very strongly

[Parama]

100%

[Parama]

there once was a man
who lived in japan, although
this is a haiku

[Parama]

hey bins

i did say hi literally the post you quoted, rude ignoring me :<
p-edit: i was sorely tempted to do the same exact thing tbh but there'd be no passion behind it

[Parama]

i wish i was your lyncher

why are you paranoid about me being your lyncher?

[Parama]

I have no idea what's going on this game xD

its okay!

I am a lyncher on parama but i think soren might actually be scum!

you can't be lyncher on me

i do get the impression that, at the very least, soren isn't town, though

[Parama]

why do you think i'm your lyncher? because i'm voting you?

[Parama]

i guess that makes you foxx's lyncher

[Parama]

alright

wanna lynch Soren with me?

[Parama]

i wasn't asking you

[Parama]

sure, let's go with that

and grayfoxxx apparently doesn't understand the english language, or somehow thinks it's physically possible for him to clearly respond to me while not responding to me, that's not funny dude it just makes you look dumb lol

[Parama]

VOTE: GrayFoxxxxx

i'm not in the mood to put up with someone who will take every opportunity possible to be confrontational with people for no real reason

[Parama]

you are trying so desperately hard to look like the jester that I can't imagine you possibly being the jester

[Parama]

you are not voting gray, do you want to?

[Parama]

trying too hard is not a scumtell

[Parama]

implying that sometimes, it isn't, so it's a nulltell
you just destroyed your own argument, join me on grayfoxxx thanks

[Parama]

uhh, yes you did


literally just did

[Parama]

umm. but you literally did. like. denying something that you did yourself is stupid.

and sure i'm jester okay, now help me lynch gray

[Parama]

see, here, look:
you: "this is a scumtell"
me: "no it's not"
you: "well it is sometimes"
me: "so sometimes it's not a scumtell. and sometimes it's not a scumtell. so it's not actually a scumtell. it's a nulltell."
you: "wtf parama is jester"

^the exchange that basically just happened

[Parama]

alright, let's step back for a minute and go with this:
if soren's trying too hard is scum in this game, why? you can't just say "X is a scumtell" and expect that to be enough. it's situational. why, in this game, does it make soren scum?

[Parama]

trying too hard is not a scumtell

omg you're literally arguing semantics

just because you didn't use the exact words doesn't mean you didn't say essentially the same thing

[Parama]

err, that quote wasn't mean to be there but w/e

[Parama]

...i literally don't understand how that's a generalization

[Parama]

oh, gray is at L-1, great

[Parama]

hey Dray get over here and hammer Gray

p-edit: okay, explain the difference in meaning between "a heinous mafia crime" and "a scumtell" then

[Parama]

i'm voting you because you're being so confrontational on an attempt to look like jester, but it's so blatant that I can't image you possibly being jester, and the only role in the game that has motivation to fake jester is the mafia

what you are calling generalizations are literally not generalizations

[Parama]

neither of you are making the slightest bit of sense anymore, so

[Parama]

i am being 100% earnest
you: "because i use a slightly different term, i'm totes not calling it a scumtell lol!"
gray: "everything ever is a generalization!"

^explain to me what part of either of these caricatures isn't realistic, becuase i think they're pretty spot-on

[Parama]

i wonder if pirate is lyncher and is calling me jester as an excuse to not have to vote for me so he can vote his target instead
it would make sense as to why he's pushing a soren lynch so hard based on a scumtell that's not a scumtell that could be a scumtell

[Parama]

when i'm making a caricature, yes, i'm going to exaggerate

[Parama]

i can see you are missing the point of my posts entirely, though, so i'm going to move on from responding

[Parama]

i don't know what to explain when trying to read your posts makes my brain hurt

[Parama]

yeah, don't try to pin this on me, sorry, that don't fly

[Parama]

i can see you are missing the point of my posts entirely, though, so i'm going to move on from responding

[Parama]

would love to see more posts from bins and especially dray

[Parama]

hi

[Parama]

both of them are not posting because of life, prob

[Parama]

everyone's watching, dray

[Parama]

"didn't explain townread" is never a bad thing, you prob shouldn't explain townreads.
i don't really have a read on mollie other than "might be lyncher on you"

bins probably does need to post more content tho, so she's town

[Parama]

the real PGO should NOT counterclaim mollie. i am not considering mollie's claim to be in earnest, the wya it was made, so 1. i won't hold it against him and 2. counterclaiming is stupid

[Parama]

and if mollie is really PGO, then there's WIFOM in it anyways so IT DOES NOT MATTER the end

[Parama]

yes, so you're not jester, so you're scum

problem
solved

i dunno why mollie thinks i'm playing bad because i'm not?

[Parama]

like call me jester all you want idc but i'm not playing bad lol

[Parama]

i never once called you jester.
i called you scum tryharding to look like jester.

and mollie is 100% totally not conftown in any way so i'm going to ignore him.

[Parama]

yeah, that kind of crap is exactly why you need to be lynched.

YOU QUOTED MY POST
PRETTY SURE YOU WERE RESPONDING TO ME

[Parama]

waiting, mostly impatiently tbh but waiting

[Parama]

Posts 148 through 150 are obv directed towards someone else. Where did I quote you, with relevance to what we are currently discussing?

157

YOUR POST

WHERE YOU QUOTED AND RESPONDED TO ME

THE SAME POST I JUST RESPONDED TO

??????

[Parama]

i'm getting pissed that people are trying to push my GENUINE CONCERNS aside because "lol parama so jester his play so bad" when IT'S NOT?
Grey literally makes no sense to me, not a single of his posts are coherent or follow any train of logic.

[Parama]

well yes, if you ignore posts 152, 153, and 155, sure, you can paint it that way
but you are willfully ignoring the existence of those posts to paint me in a bad light, even though you know your entire point is garbage, and I can't fathom why when it's that obvious you're doing so

[Parama]

and 152 was in DIRECT RESPONSE to 150.
and 155 was in DIRECT RESPONSE to 152
and THEN you have 156 in direct response to 155.
you can't possibly be this dense.

[Parama]

so as you said in 157

this is pretty embarrassing for you, I guess

[Parama]

i'm literally arguing with a brick wall here.

brick walls do not understand english.

[Parama]

like seriously, someone, anyone who isn't gray, come in and please convince me i'm the sane one here because i feel like i'm going crazy, is gray the least bit coherent to ANYONE else?

[Parama]

congratulations, you have used some confusing string of moon logic to come to the conclusion that i am either town or not town

everyone give this guy a round of applause

(i haven't misread a goddamn thing, but you go girl keep thinking that)

[Parama]

[Parama]

umm, you are the one failing to read here, then blaming me for your stupidity, but okay
i mostly want this guy policied on hammer because the most he's done all game is argue why he didn't do something he actually did very much do, without benefitting town in any way whatsoever
there is 0% chance he is jester, too, so there's no reason not to hammer

[Parama]

like, aside from a few posts aimed at soren and a RVS vote on Bins, gray has interacted with -nobody- else but me all game, and none of his interactions with me have been productive in the slightest. do we need this? i don't think we need this. i imagine he could be lyncher on me, really, but that's a good lynch too tbh

[Parama]

well, for one, your vote is still resting on Bins, from your very first post.
Why? Do you think Bins is scum?

And spoilers: There are 4 other people in the game aside from me and you. to be fair Dray has barely posted and Bins hasn't posted much either but that still leaves Soren and mollie to talk about

[Parama]

what is there for me to explain? you're willfully not playing the game, gray, i looked over a few of your finished games and you don't play this dumb in them

and bins if i'm jester then it's okay for you to hammer gray, but i feel like he's my lyncher with how focused he is on me and me alone
so sure, i'll be jester for now, hey guys i'm officially jester, let's lynch gray

[Parama]

what is there to explain that you're not willfully ignoring

[Parama]

y'know, no, i'm not continuing this charade any further, is there anyone else out there i can talk with that actually isn't crazy

[Parama]

soren. if gray was jester, the game would be over right now.

[Parama]

umm i had a big argument with mollie earlier in the thread, i've been pushing bins and dray to post more, and i've exchanged blows with Soren too, who am I -not- interacting with? the mod?

Daykill: InflatablePie

there, happy now?

[Parama]

why did you switch your vote off bins the moment i called you out for having an unjustified vote. why were you voting bins until just now?

[Parama]

yeah, that's not an answer, because: spoilers; I asked that AFTER ISOing you, and, no, you did not justify it, ever

[Parama]

man mollie's claim is just, such a cruddy argument in favor of him being town though

[Parama]

also bins you have seen me play in mafiamafiamafia you know i tunnel 100% all the time every time

i'm confident gray isn't jester and I don't like his play so excuse me for going full-on no brakes mode trying to get him dead

[Parama]

i'm trying to wifom intentionally because if you -are- PGO and the mafia thinks you're PGO then you're functionally useless

[Parama]

i meant as a pgo

[Parama]

i'd push a wagon on dray to get him to post more if not for the fact that gray needs to die

[Parama]

thoughts:
1. replace Dray

[Parama]

2. please

[Parama]

mollie, you acknowledge that gray is reaching an incredulous amount, yet you instead want to lynch... a lurker?

[Parama]

reminder than gray has been at L-1 and didn't self-hammer, making him confirmed non-jester

[Parama]

or, consider this:
i am trying to get an active player into an inactive slot so the slot can produce more content and players of the game will be better able to read that slot

[Parama]

so you're literally trolling
alright

[Parama]

why do you blame me.
blame the fact that
1. two players are barely posting
2. no flips yet

[Parama]

is it a modkillable offense to say that i looked at dray's post history and he made the same "busy" post in like 3 threads indicating that it's a site-wide thing and not just this game
and he -is- modding a game too
i feel like that's akin to "V/LA" but i have no clue what's modkillable or not but i have no way to destroy mollie's godawful argument without pointing this out, but this is a stupid trash argument that needs to die right here

[Parama]

mollie's push on this actually really irks me because it's garbage and he did not bother to check for himself whether or not dray was legit busy (which is easy to do) or he did check and didn't care and went for it anyways, either one is bad

[Parama]

it's not really talking about ongoing games as much as it is dray's status on the site
and that's nice, but you're not going to get people to join you that way, and if people aren't going to join you then your push has failed and your vote is wasted

[Parama]

you abandoned your push on soren without any hesitation, that's cute

[Parama]

that's nice, gray, but we both know you're voting dray out of spite for me

[Parama]

you literally quoted my post when you voted

you're so transparent that I can barely even see you

[Parama]

see the problem is there's literally no way to point out an argument's flaw without doing that, even if it's a garbage argument, and i didn't discuss the content of the games itself in the slightest, but w/e mafiascum has a ton of dumb uptight rules

[Parama]

you literally quoted my post when you voted

you're so transparent that I can barely even see you

OH SHIT I QUOTED A PLAYER, IN A GAME OF WORDS.

I MUST BE STUCK UP THEIR ASS, AND EVERYTHING I DO IS BECAUSE OF THEM.

not everything, but the specific post you made where you quoted me, is almost definitely about me, because that's how association works

[Parama]

you can call me jester as many times as you want to discredit my valid arguments, go ahead, i'll be the jester, it's fun

[Parama]

there you go i'm the official jester now

[Parama]

then you need better reading comprehension skills

[Parama]

from the very start you have been confrontational with me every last opportunity you got and it legitimately pisses me off, mostly, then you try to blame it on me for some confusing reason even though you know full well and it's very clear that you know full well that you're just being confrontational

better?

[Parama]

no see that's the irony
you -were- talking to be but you wanted to take the opportunity to be confrontational so you continue to deny it
and you're literally doing it again right now to my face

i will be fully honest in saying that part of why i want to lynch gray is policy

[Parama]

difference between attacking a player's posts and attacking them for the hell of it
and literally nobody else has bothered commenting on the garbage you're spewing because it's a huge waste of time that you refuse to let go for some reason

[Parama]

(the reason is that you're being confrontational)

[Parama]

and you just admitted to being confrontational, so thanks

[Parama]

soren, mollie, can we lynch gray

[Parama]

yay memes

[Parama]

it's okay you're the other player whose vote I didn't want anyways

[Parama]

no, it means i have three players (bins, soren, dray replacement) that i'd all prefer to have on the wagon because i like them all more

[Parama]

i thought i was jester

i liked being jester but i can update my icon for u

[Parama]

(gray is probably lyncher on me, for what it's worth)

[Parama]

fear me, i am the ever dreaded jester lyncher fennec

[Parama]

i'm trying to have fun with this game because thus far gray has made an utterly unfun hostile atmosphere and someone needs to combat that

[Parama]

i'm not editing a mafia hat into my icon btw

[Parama]

hitler wasn't mafia

[Parama]

i still don't agree with your argument for lynching him, mostly because it's dumb

[Parama]

true, but that doesn't make your argument valid

[Parama]

well you have to remember that i'm confirmed jester-lyncher-mafia and it makes life a lot easier

[Parama]

lynch grayslot, not drayslot.

[Parama]

lyncher can actually be on mafia, for what it's worth, and I assume in that case both town and lyncher win because both wincons are fulfilled

[Parama]

The Lyncher's randomized target can be anyone. Yes, even the Yakuza or the Jester. They remain a target even if they are recruited by the Yakuza.

sometimes reading the roles is beneficial to playing the game

[Parama]

tho actually apparently the game doesn't end unless the lyncher is also lynched which I think is ???really cruddy???
so like we can't lynch mafia d1 if the lyncher is on them??? that's bad.
i don't feel like the lyncher is on gray tho because i'm like the only one actively pushing him
and we know he's not jester
the worst part is that if lyncher is on mafia d1 then the mafia can yak out and then we have to figure out who's the new mafia omg this setup is a trainwreck why didn't you just follow epicmafia rules pie

[Parama]

mollie is really stubborn and wrong, just ignore her, we have four voters to get on the gray slot even without her

[Parama]

reminder that your reason is total trash

[Parama]

it's because he was busy

[Parama]

i do not want to lynch Bins because i feel like she is the only other sane person here

[Parama]

soren was kinda sane until he started suggesting lynching bins.

[Parama]

^seriously why is this still alive

[Parama]

i am your lyncher, and i am the jester, and i am the mafia, we already know this

[Parama]

alright. i'll be your lyncher.

everyone, please lynch gray, he's the mafia.

[Parama]

well you can't touch text stored as data on a server, so yes, that's true

[Parama]

brb going to shadow moses to take a picture of gray's role PM and submit it as evidence to the players by mail

[Parama]

Gray seems a hindrance at best and scummy at worst. So, yes.

[Parama]

reminder: from a town point of view, 3 of 5 players are scum of some kind

[Parama]

>i need to adjust my focus
>my focus is one of your two players in the town/scum group

why do I need to adjust my focus???

[Parama]

the argument "you shouldn't focus on one player" is especially null in a game this small where there's literally one mafia

[Parama]

it's kind of funny because, all things considered, the lyncher is the most dangerous scum in the game, since they can be lyncher on the mafia and they count as a hostile third
the funny thing is, i can see gray being either lyncher or mafia, but basically nothing else

[Parama]

jester is outright out of the question and he doesn't strike me as town, either, the way he's playing
so. my vote is about as good as it's ever going to get.

[Parama]

i'm lynching you because you insist on being stubbornly confrontational for no reason

and no, you cannot blame it on my attacks on you, because you were already confrontational before then

furthermore, you are the safest lynch as you are the only confirmed non-jester

and you have done next to no scumhunting all game, and none of it good, that's for sure

i see not one hint of town motivation from your slot, no genuine effort, nothing to suggest you're on my side

[Parama]

oh and mollie:

i still don't need you to lynch gray, so thanks

[Parama]

yo soren, vedith, we need you guys <3

[Parama]

if you focus on the most recent page of the game, sure, i haven't given evidence

reminder to players to not be goldfish: all fifteen pages matter, not just the last one

[Parama]

bins gets it.

[Parama]

vedith, you should, maybe, just possibly, read the mod's rules and setup post

[Parama]

ok. yes, the lyncher can be on any alignment.

[Parama]

would a town edit a jester hat onto their avatar? i dont see it
parama is getting anti town leans from me

L O L

[Parama]

i am claimed jester mafia lyncher on gray already, fwiw

[Parama]

the bins wagon is garbage

[Parama]

vedith please vote someone, also, we're too close to deadline for you to not be voting

[Parama]

V/LA isn't an excuse lol

[Parama]

bins did you win as lyncher

[Parama]

alright, i also did not

[Parama]

i blame gray for being so terrible, seriously, i legit thought you were scum dude

bins did you win as lyncher

no

you lied to me :'c

p-edit: mollie i wasn't even playing to my wincon, like, at all because i was going for the slow win

[Parama]

i blame gray. seriously, work on your play dude. you were confrontational with me from the getgo and it pissed me off.

[Parama]

i blame gray, btw, but this was a dumb silly game anyways so w/e

[Parama]

bins did you win as lyncher

no

i'm sorry that you were here for like, three days before the game ended xD

[Parama]

oh yeah hi again quote glitch btw

[Parama]

gray, i literally was playing as town the entire game. i already said that. of course i didn't get lynched.
(to be fair, sometimes when i play town i get lynched for stupid crap anyways lol)

[Parama]

i think one thing you should make sure to do next time is not let the lyncher target be the yak, 'cause looool it's super unfair to the town if it is, that's why lyncher taget is never mafia on epicmafia

[Parama]

oh yeah! i was trying to hint that i was pgo pretty much all game but i guess i was too subtle