Micro 520: Anger Point I AM PISSED

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VOTE: Gameplay506
So someone sent me a message last night saying they would Night Kill me if I voted them
'you have been warned'.

Screw you scum, come at me bros.

Are you sure it was sent by scum instead of a town player who actually kills the ones voting them? Who sent you the message?

VOTE: gameplay

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It's either scum being told they have a buddy/traitor but not knowing who their buddy is and trying to find out.

Or it is a scum ploy.

Did any other player receive a such message?

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If this is a scum ploy I feel perfectly comfortable losing to it

MOD, do scum have daytalk?

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Ok I am sure tier is scum
VOTE: Tier
One scum found
So fire sorry I am not scum :d
Also I recieved somethinggg - a fruit guys

No u

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Uh nvm this could also be a town thing

Gameplay how do you distinguish 'creating a wagon' from 'lazily sheeping' during rvs?

Note the mod not confirming the IC claim.

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Hi pimhel wassup why are you voting me?

Firebringer why so afraid of L-1? You've been playing enough to know that L-1s aren't as scary as you're depicting them to be.

VOTE: Firebringer

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It's a joke by gameplay. The mod would immediately announce such a thing if requested.

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What are you insinuating..that I cannot vote for people defending me? Stop being ridiculous.

Now tell me, why you are so afraid of L-1?

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L-1 is not a lynch. If you don't want to vote me, don't let your vote go to waste, vote someone else.

I really feel someone with ~2000 posts (if I remember correctly) should know better.

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Yeah, why the heck do you want a claim on page 3?

Why do you think I'm scum in the first place?

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Firebringer, why do you want role claims from people you think aren't scum?

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@mod: pimhel is voting Firebringer

Done

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Bah firebringer you're horrible

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Yep, calling scum within orcknight/PB

VOTE: pb

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I still think it's weird as fuck that fire sucks this hard with the amount of posts he has..

But eh

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because he's one of the players who started voting after firebringer's own viewpoints on claiming and L-1. To me, Fire went from scummy to a weak target town there, so just where scum want to vote.

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Let's do the prolapsed brain wagon. It's what's hip and trendy right now.

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because his defence of his stupid theory reads town to me

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Deadline is not in 1 hour but I'd really like to see this wagon ekicit a claim within ~12 hours

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I don't particularly feel orcknight is scum, gameplay defo not.

VOTE: vedith

None of his posts gear towards scumhunting.

Explain your latest vote.

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sure guys, how about you explain your fucking opinions

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Vonflare probably scum them since it was me who delivered the fruit to gameplay
Yes, I'm claiming. Fruit vendor to be exact.

Please understand that with all shown town power (tracker, jk, booster), scum cannot have weak PRs so that this makes me town. Even if you don't, this is not something I want to argue about rn.

I'm pretty sure that BOTH scum have targeting abilities so that the anger point system works. I also think that not all townies have targeting abilities and that there is a very very big chance vonflare is scum.

Please make this happen, we need 3 votes in 11 hours.
VOTE: vonflare
scu.

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All he does is making excuses, so that's another reason to see him lynched.

If anyone does not understand my setup spec, PLEASE ask.

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Hi

I was sent the same type of message fire received during N1, telling me to vote fire if I'm scum. It's pretty ridiculous because I feel I'm pretty obviously town.

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telling me to vote fire

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Game did you or did you not send the message to fire?
Did you or did you not send the message to me?

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Still something doesn't add up. If it is coming from scum, then it has to be a no-killing scum, correct? 'Cus the message is about fire and fire died so. Traitor sending messages?

No, scum could have tried sending the message to fire and when fire appeared not to be scum they killed him.

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We are massclaiming today. We are so massclaiming.

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I mean you got a message to vote fire but he died

Yeah maybe this person is just messing around

And I could still vote him if I want anyway.

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I don't understand anyone thinking I'm scum unless they got that gameplay is ALSO a fruit vendor, which only gameplay and guille seemed to get..

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giving the apple's of death yeah.
btw who did you give a fruit to tier

no one. You shouldn't target people either. You're now confirmed fruit vendor, no reason to give fruit anymore.

And you shouldn't give fruit, because, IF you are scum, you WILL want to give fruit so other people get higher anger point. Assuming you're town (or even scum), you don't want to give fruit to anyone anymore, because it's just not necessary for town and useful for scum.

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Vedith why did you send the messages? What is your role called?

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only me, gameplay (more or less), vedith (more or less) and firebringer claimed, right?

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I'm ready to end this day (with a PB lynch of course) just after vedith fullclaims this half-assed claim.

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Ah yes, PB, I knew there had been another claim, just couldn't remember which one.

Vedith, why add the part about you sending scum a message to kill me if I vote you? I had no idea who you were. What were you hoping to accomplish with that?

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Also, why did you claim having sent the message?

@gameplay&vedith: please don't use your ability this night as explained in 265

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why are you discarding guille as scum?

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Welp, that makes it easy.

Already expected scum to be in radja/guille so

VOTE: radja

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So, let me get this right, 3 options:
1. Radja is scum
2. Guille is scum who is a roleblocker/strongman
3. Someone else is scum, necessitating him to be both a doctor/strongman (because the kill happened) AND a ninja (because he hasn't been seen by guille).

Scenario 3 is only true if scum have a 1-shot shared strongman or a 1-shot undetectable unstoppable kill. I deem scenarios 1 and 2 more likely.

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I have a real problem with both a tracker and a watcher being around on such a small town.

Agreed, BTW. Why are you not voting guille, then?

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Maybe strongman but I agree

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Sala, excellent modding, as always.
Problem with a setup like this is that once one scum dies it's basically impossible for the other to win the game. A jailkeeper, a tracker AND a watcher? No amount of town useless/negative utility roles will help against that, after they claim. After a scum death, it's game over. I would have made the watcher a VT.

I don't like the anger point mechanic, because:
1. Probability-based roles suck.
2. It's too dangerous for scum to target the PRs in the hope their abilities won't work anymore. There's still a chance of at least 50% they will succeed.

What were you trying to accomplish by the AP mechanic, sala?

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I think prolapsed brain's fakeclaim was pretty good, actually.

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I was also thinking 50%/25% but I thought that was too much.

this would have been better though!

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It was the 1 thing I thought made you town