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Post #165 (isolation #8) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:08 am
Postby ConManMick »
Once more, not familiar enough with wickedest to make assumptions on what said emotive qualities of play (or lack thereof) indicate.
I'm also reluctant to assume general cases over something like this. Certainly there are players who behave as you have outlined, and don't get me wrong, I'm keeping this in mind, but of itself it doesn't seem indicative to me here.
People =/= maths
General cases have more exceptions.
PEDIT: I think I understand what you mean now. Regardless, not seeing anything from wickedest that's pinging me.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
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Post #167 (isolation #9) » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:19 am
Postby ConManMick »
I like your recent play.
With regards to tere, it occurs to me that neither myself nor Kaboose ever answered this:
In post 44, Tere wrote:Kaboose and ConManMick, why have you chosen to make everyone else hated?
At the time I did it because RVS shenanigans. I began unvoting players based on whether or not I thought they could be scum, and left the other votes (a total of four, I believe) because I figured those players could go either way.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
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Post #212 (isolation #10) » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:15 am
Postby ConManMick »
In post 198, Wickedestjr wrote:Can one or two people please read my exchange with TheLhix and tell me that I'm not being a jerk?
Because I'm really really really not trying to be a jerk, so TheLhix's frustrated response is making me feel like garbage right now. Perhaps I'm unaware of how my posts come across, and I would like to know if that is the case, but I'm making an effort to be civil.
TheLhix
, I'm sorry if my posts offended you, I can promise you that that was not the intention. I was just frustrated because it didn't feel like you were giving me a fair shot. I think there has been a misunderstanding from both of us.
It's difficult to convey tone in text format. I suspect the EM question was more of a genuine inquiry than a throwaway insult. However it's easy to see how it can be interpreted as such.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
It seems off. To put this bluntly, I'm seeing it as a sort of a "Look at me being protown, not ending the day!" type post.
I also never mentioned anything about white knighting but TTH pointed it out as a reason I might be voting, which I thought was also interesting.
Also FWIW, I still don't like the "two black sheep" logic for my being town.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
In post 264, ConManMick wrote:We lynched a townie and there's a pair of scumbags prowling around the scene
your case and your vote stinks
do you have any other reads?
*more specifically: read on rob's slot
K. I'm standing by it anyway.
Lhix' logic did not appeal to me. I did not understand his decision that I was town. I thought maybe he was cosying up but it was argueably too soon to tell. Null to scum.
In post 239, ConManMick wrote:I also never mentioned anything about white knighting but TTH pointed it out as a reason I might be voting, which I thought was also interesting.
Interesting in what way?
ConManMick wrote:Also FWIW, I still don't like the "two black sheep" logic for my being town.
What is your reason for saying this? Also, what is your read on Lhix?
Also, ConMan, why did you wait so long to call her out for her post 53?
I am L-2 actually.
With regards to interesting: I never used the phrase white knighting, nor pointed out any such behaviour. Defense against a non-existent accusation.
As to the second point, that's pretty much answered above. If that's insufficient, say so. If I've missed anything, say so.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
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Post #303 (isolation #17) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:54 pm
Postby ConManMick »
FWIW I once hammered Khan whilst he was behaving somewhat similarly because I was mildly intoxicated and thought it was funny. He was, in fact, town. Gut instinct says town here, too.
Anti:
I'd just like to know. If you don't want to answer, that's fine. I was just curious.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
@Con - can you explain your naked vote on ProHawk? What is your current read on TTH, who you wordlessly unvoted?
So his interaction with me when I first came in with my apologies for being late etc. struck me initially as townish - gently questioning what, in hindsight, looks like nervousness from a late entry scum player. But then he stops posting for ages, and when he came back I felt a lot of it was noise, so I put a vote there. With regards to TTH vote drop, it was the post where she voted me to L-1. She felt like my reasons for scum reading her were poor or whatever earlier, and the tone of that post reminds me of something I'd do in the situation - it's sort of a vindictive "fuck you, you were wrong now eat rope!" post (my interpretation) which shattered my read. Also don't think scum would do that because, if I was lynched, they'd frame themselves. Not sure if I've explained that well but it makes sense in my head.
In post 388, Rob14 wrote:
And what the heck is going on in this? What was your goal/motivation in posting that?
but we have prohawk here who knows conman's going to flip scum
Does he now? And when I don't, will ProHawk be exonerated? How will your reads change from there?
I think I may have misunderstood what Anti was saying. To confirm: I thought he was implying that I am scum with ProHawk and this was a spur of the moment "go and shite" post. In retrospect I'm not entirely sure now, I think he means that ProHAwk is behaving AS THOUGH he knows for sure I'm scum? Bah. idk. /discuss.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
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Post #425 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:00 pm
Postby ConManMick »
In post 421, Rob14 wrote:{Con, ProHawk, Wicked} are all viable options to consider
Wagon considered viable by you, and evidently the three voting me at the very least. Thus safer for scum to sit on me rather than to attempt a flash wagon on someone else.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
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Post #428 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:04 pm
Postby ConManMick »
Why TTH or Zito? What about them seems scummy to you? There's a few small things from Zito that feel townish to me so I'm reluctant to go that way. I'd go ProHawl before TTH, too.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
What do you mean with this? It was hardly picking up steam at a rate of knots. Also,
In post 461, RadiantCowbells wrote:I would strongly advise you to do otherwise, assuming that you're town.
The implication being that if he doesn't, he's admitting that he's scum? Like what? I don't know if there's a technical term for what this is, like a loaded statement or something similar but I'm going to say it's plain ridiculous.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
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Post #531 (isolation #30) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:35 pm
Postby ConManMick »
I don't understand that NK at all. I've an exam in just over an hour, I'll be able to give some decent posts after that. I understand the nature of my actions at the end of D1 don't sit well with some of ye, so I guess I'll try to explain those.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
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Post #552 (isolation #31) » Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:22 am
Postby ConManMick »
In post 531, ConManMick wrote:I don't understand that NK at all. I've an exam in just over an hour, I'll be able to give some decent posts after that. I understand the nature of my actions at the end of D1 don't sit well with some of ye, so I guess I'll try to explain those.
That vote before I went to bed was genuine. I had an exam, and still have exams so this'll be brief.
RC was jumping all over the shop at the end of the day, which I didn't like. Also, the nature of the self-vote was very "I don't want to be here anyway". I was willing to see a lynch for this alone, as leaving the slot in the game is a liability. I'm still willing to lynch here, so I'll
claim hammer.
I understand some people are still looking for info so I'm gonna hold off until they get it.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
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Post #632 (isolation #32) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:44 pm
Postby ConManMick »
I'm not understanding the issue with zito not engaging me, nor why I seem to be repeatedly given a free pass on stuff. Why haven't I been asked as to why I haven't talked to zito myself?
Don't really like the recent stuff but I mean if that's how he wants to play, sure.
I didn't see/ notice any tunnelling from anti. However if you're suggesting that my lynch will give info, go right ahead. I suspect there may be town either side of my wagon and my flip should give info you all require.
RC, if you do lynch me, what will my being town say of anti? Would you still lynch him?
Personally I'm thinking Anti and wicked are prolly town, doubts about Rob because of slot's pervious occupant. Though, to be fair, I've liked most of Rob's play.
"As everyone knows there is a special guardian angel for drunkards and lovers"
