Micro 574 — Space Invaders Mafia 4 — Game Over

[Apricity]

Hi Apricity!

Please don't still be upset over Plot's game, I'm sorry for lynching you

I'm town!

Hey RC Don't worry about it lol, I wasn't playing well because of irl stuff. I hope you're town too--we'll see!

[Apricity]

VOTE: beeboy

Hi! I don't know you. Post please

pedit: Lol RC.

[Apricity]

You can probably debunk that I'm not entirely doped up anymore, but I took some pain medicine, so maybe again

No RVS, 3dice?

[Apricity]

You could debunk that I'm searching the scum.

VOTE: Apricity

Do I win?

Mkay. I'm conftown though

[Apricity]

VOTE: Dewy

I called it as you or Titus on D3 btw in 1670

Ha, I read it too. That N1 cop kill though XD

[Apricity]

We're on page 2 and no BBT lynch, jus super saiyan

Yeah, can we not? I'm fed up of getting lynched.

I almost was in n1660 when you pushed for my lynch over that stupid thing >:( Still my fault for the loss though so w/e.

[Apricity]

Well, I'm not lying.

What's with all the angel emojis? =O

[Apricity]

We're on page 2 and no BBT lynch, jus super saiyan

Why is that a problem again?

[Apricity]

VOTE: Not Mafia

I like this vote. I like that our confo town is active. I like that he doesn't freak out by being voted. Looks like it's gonna be a good game.

Why? And I'm a she.

[Apricity]

Okay I'll move my vote for shoddy officials

VOTE: Bulbazoor

Why'd you pick Bulba?

[Apricity]

@beeboy

No RVS?

I am going to RVS at 6pm EST I was not given my full 24h of pre-game.

Did I just catch scum?

Why is what he said scummy?

[Apricity]

@Not Mafia: Opinion on 3dice? You seemed to not like the way he voted me, but when you shifted your vote it went to Bulba instead of him.

pedit: If that's a reference, idgi >.<

[Apricity]

Would you like to play a game with a lurker as dayvig or someone super impulsive as day vig?

And sorry, about that.

Neither? Both sound bad. But I'd probably take super impulsive over lurker. Super impulsive doesn't preclude good instincts, and more flips=more info.
It's okay; ppl probably read me as a guy because of my avatar.

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Also 3dice answer my question please. Why do you like your vote on Not Mafia?

[Apricity]

Wait just realized that my question was kinda ambiguous. Sorry 3dice. But I'd still like it answered lol.

[Apricity]

We should switch avatars then.

Lol I thought you were a girl at first too. But I like my avatar

[Apricity]

VOTE: NM

Don't like his posting at all so far.

Elaborate?

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It isn't 6 but I would like to point out I disagree with that

What part of pushing someone without actually thinking about the scum intents is towny?

It's not towny per se, but nor is it scummy. This is not scum!Dewy, if her completed scumgame is anything to go by.

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Apricity, how do you best read people?

I don't really know? Tone maybe. Interactions kinda. Haven't really thought about it; I just do it

[Apricity]

Idk how I should interpret what Bulba asked about roles.

pedit: Dewy just saying that isn't helping. How do you feel about people other than beeboy rn?

pedit2: Why are we lynching Not Mafia?

pedit3: RC stop ninja'ing me.

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Apricity, how do you best read people?

I don't really know? Tone maybe. Interactions kinda. Haven't really thought about it; I just do it

No, like, I want to be able to avoid getting lynched/davigged this game without getting frustrated and trying to get myself lynched in the process like last time.
How do I play this to best enable you to read me?
Do you want me to run things by you, ignore you and focus on other people, etc?

Other people mostly. I think that'd be more helpful since everyone knows I'm town already. Although explaining reads a bit when you say "X is town" or "Y is scum" would be good too--didn't you have a tendency to post one-liners?

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@Dewy, riddle me this: Who do you think is the most scummy right now and why? What about most towny (besides me)?

[Apricity]

Guys, regardless of who it's on, when do we want my shot to happen? Idk if it should be early, but we definitely shouldn't wait till deadline is close imo.

[Apricity]

@Marquis: Could we get a vote count please?

[Apricity]

Not like this

Anything to say about the wagon on you?

[Apricity]

My next biggest scumread atm would be Beeboy.

Is this still true? If so, why?

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What are people scum reading him anyway I don't really understand?
Is it just because he giving off a too serious vibe.

I've been trying to get an answer to this. RC and BBT think his posting is really off and/or scummy. I just looked through his ISO and maybe these?

15: First post in game, wants 3dice to talk but votes BBT. But it's RVS so idk.
22 and 27: Reaction to 3dice's joke RVS vote on me. This would be where RC questioned him about being too serious. Only thing I can think of is that it's an attempt to look towny by opposing a clearly bad vote. RC please clarify if there's something else you saw about this.
30: Randomly brings up BBT. Feels awkward I guess; didn't get a satisfactory answer to why this was a problem (only 53).
43: Drops BBT vote because "shoddy officials"? No clue. Moves it to Bulba.

I just don't really understand most of what Not Mafia's been doing. Unsure if that makes him scum though.

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It's not so much serious that it just feels fake and towncred grabby.
So yeah, kinda what you're thinking!
It's not even the things that he's doing it's how he does them and how they make me feel. I feel like he's scum here.

Okay. I'll have to think on it more though. And it'd help if he posted more =.=

[Apricity]

Page 2 is still RVS in my opinion, it isn't town or scum play it is RVS. I wouldn't say it feels forced because there isn't really any inconsistencies among his posts that would suggest that.
I am neutral on Not Mafia right now I don't like this wagon at all it is focusing on all the wrong ideas.


P.S. We have 0 wall posts you can read the 8 pages pretty quickly

"All the wrong ideas"? Are there correct ones re. Not Mafia that you saw?

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Who pushed Bulba again?

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How am I the only one getting major scum vibes from Dewy's posts.

So you see Bulba as lynchbait, but not Dewy? What's the difference in their posting?

[Apricity]

@beeboy: Explain the 3dice read? Is it his defense of Dewy? Also the BBT read.

[Apricity]

UNVOTE:

Hmmm. Idk what to think about BBT, Soren, and Not Mafia. Still thinking about beeboy/Dewy/3dice.

[Apricity]

@Soren, got any reads?

[Apricity]

Is everyone at school/work? Sigh. I'm all lonely

[Apricity]

I need reads from Soren.
I need an explanation about Not Mafia from BBT.
I need more posts/opinions in general from Dewy.
RC, how do you feel about 3dice and Dewy? Also idk exactly why but I'm sorta leaning town on beeboy.
I feel like I'll be shooting between BBT, Not Mafia, and Soren today if nothing else comes up. Idk for sure though.

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Apric have you established your reads?

Working on it. Kinda difficult if people aren't talking though. Do you still think it's 3dice/Dewy?

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VOTE: Soren

Come talk~

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3dice, do you think beeboy is scum? Thoughts on other people?

[Apricity]

I'm at school but I can still post!

What's on your mind?

Talk to me about 3dice/Dewy/beeboy. Is it weird that I kinda want to lean town on all of them?

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I agree re. 3dice's genuineness overall, but the one thing that bugs me is that part where I thought he was reaching slightly for a reason to townread Dewy. Forget the exact post number; lemme look.
About beeboy, I can understand his reservations about Dewy, but somehow I don't see a 3dice/Dewy team.
RC, can you try to articulate about beeboy a little?

[Apricity]

@Dewy: Can you give me your reads on everyone?

[Apricity]

Howcome NM hasn't been lynched yet?

You know, explaining why he should be lynched beyond just saying he's scummy and a terrific lynch might help.

[Apricity]

Pew pew

Pew pew pew

Stop it >:( Want to explain why "shoddy officials" is a reason to vote Bulba? I don't understand anything you've done this game.

[Apricity]

Beeboy's positions real forced and I really feel like he's trying to rush push a lynch for some reason or other.
He might be just overly aggressive town but he feels like scum to me.
I don't like any of his reads postings either, they seem really generic and vague :S

I'll look at this when I read ISOs later.

[Apricity]

I will when I have some time.

But man. Just look at his early posting. So scummy.

I don't understand him at all. But idk if that makes him scummy.

[Apricity]

@Not Maifa: If you aren't going to do anything useful, I'm very tempted to shoot you.

[Apricity]

I don't want to shoot NM on a case that's barely been articulated though.
BBT, you said you'd post reasons later?

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I'm not townreading bBT anymore though.

What made you townread him in the first place? I never have, and it's a big part of why I'm hesitant to shoot NM even though his lack of contribution is awful.

[Apricity]

I'm also pretty fixated on a NM / Beeboy scumteam at the moment.

I don't see beeboy as scum tbh, though I'm curious about what you see associating those two specifically.

[Apricity]

I'm sorta townreading his opener to the game especially.
I've gotten him lynched a *lot* as scum, including in the predecessor to this setup, and I feel like his line about replacing about if he flipped scum could have been genuine.
Usually BBT's kind of a bit, cheekier? as scum.

I'll need more than that from BBT to townread him :/
But he did say he got tired of being scum, yeah? Minimal explanation/effort instead of replacing out is possible maybe. Idk.

[Apricity]

What is "content"?

Not what you're doing, that's for sure.

[Apricity]

I'm also pretty fixated on a NM / Beeboy scumteam at the moment.

I don't see beeboy as scum tbh, though I'm curious about what you see associating those two specifically.

I feel like Beeboy could be hard pushing other wagons to try to keep NM alive.
If I'm wrong about either this whole situation falls short though.

Nnn...not sure about that. What do you make of his read development on 3dice?

[Apricity]

Can you link me to what you're specifically referring to?

His scumread on 3dice initially then recently revising that. The progression in general.
204, 219, 241, 246, 261, 292, 299

[Apricity]

I actually get bad feels from 3dice

For some reason I didn't like that long string either. The things he said were true, and I'd already made note of them, but just the way he did it feels weird kinda. Tying NM and BBT together a bit. Which could be true; I don't like either of those slots atm, but still. Probably not enough to override my current townread though.

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I don't really see much a read progression on 3dice?
It feels like they're still a scumread most of the way through.

Yeah mostly a scumread. But he recently said he doesn't scumread 3dice anymore. Was wondering if you had any thoughts about that.

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These two things are indeed linked.

Wha?

[Apricity]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

I feel like I missed something. Where is this coming from?

[Apricity]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Dis gun b gud

If you have the capacity to post, at least try to be useful about it =.=

[Apricity]

Why are people scum reading me?

Why don't you tell me. Also do you have thoughts on others besides NM?

[Apricity]

Yeah, I've generally never been a huge fan of his reads in general.
Part of the reason that I don't like the slot actually.
I find it particularly odd considering I feel like 3dice started the day off really towny and gradually became scummier.

Hold up. Weren't you townreading 3dice not too long ago? But you actually didn't like his reads from the start? Explain?

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Oh I didn't read P.edits 3dice vs Radiant makes this sketchy af since I was just scum reading 3dice like 2 hours ago.

What are you implying here?

[Apricity]

I need to reread what just happened in the last few pages. Keep posting stuff please.

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RC is giving me this weird vibe, but I don't necessarily think he's scum. I'd say slightly leaning town.

I wonder why RC

Why did you quote this?

(If I'm very behind on the current discussion sorry but I'm getting there)

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Like his pushes to me just feel like 'hey I'm hard pushing look at me'.
I don't really buy the justifications for it and it sort of does feel like he's just grabbing names out of a hat and hard pushing them and being like
LOOK HOW TOWN I AM FOR PUSHING MY SCUMREADS!! and it just rubs off badly for me.

Are you talking about 3dice or beeboy?

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I've generally never been a fan of BEEBOY's reads in general.
Part of the reason that I don't like the slot actually.
I find it particularly odd that BEEBOY WENT FROM SCUMREADING TO TOWNREADING him considering that I feel like 3dice started the day off really towny and gradually became scummier.

Gradually became scummier? Is it just that string of quotes about BBT and Not Mafia?

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VOTE: BBT

I am so lost. Why did you vote RC? Why did you switch to BBT?

[Apricity]

VOTE: RC

Plot twist

An L-1 vote would be an even bigger one

Nah I think RC is town

First useful thing that's come out of your mouth this game. What do you think of 3dice and beeboy and BBT?

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How did this even happen? RC is legit my strongest townread besides Apricity.

Well, I was testing the waters to see if RC would OMGUS, which he sorta did, but mainly attacked his already established scum read of beeboy.

BBT jumps on the easy wagon. Let's shoot him or NM

Does RC omgus as scum or town or both?

[Apricity]

False

Proof?

[Apricity]

@apricity what are your thoughts on RC?

I was almost certain he was town before this mess happened. Now idk how to feel. Trying to get a handle on it now; will update this after that happens.

[Apricity]

Link please.

[Apricity]

@Everyone, do me a little favor: List your top vig target and your top lynch target for today. Go.

[Apricity]

Find me your self voting town meta. It is a scum thing to do.

He posted this:
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=64802

[Apricity]

Vig: BBT
Lynch: NM

Unless BBT flips scum, then I would have to think about my scumread on NM

Wait. Would you lynch NM if BBT flips town, or if BBT flips scum? Your phrasing was weird.

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Can you find me the post I can't see where he self voted.

ISO, ctrl f Vote: RC?

[Apricity]

I want someone to find me the exact post where radiant self voted as town

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p7551878

[Apricity]

STOP THE NOISE OR YOU ARE SCUM CLAIMING.

I WANT OUR IC DAYVIG TO MORE INVOLVED WITH THE CONVERSATION, SO EVERYONE SHUT UP SO HE CAN GET CAUGHT UP WITHOUT ALL THIS NOISE

Ya, I'm trying. Calm down everyone.

Beeboy, you never exactly answered who your top vig target and top lynch target are for today? I assume RC is one but who else?

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Apricity, the game is over if you shoot between myself and Beeboy.

Just do it.

Dammit I thought you both were town. I've half a mind to shoot/lynch both of you if I wasn't also worried about this being a TvT and scum (potentially BBT, 3dice, Soren, NM) just coasting this one.

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3dice. Why did you vote RC? Why did you switch to BBT?

[Apricity]

RC and beeboy if you could both be quiet for a minute that'd be great.

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Yes, why did you reaction test like that? Does RC omgus as town or scum?

[Apricity]

I refuse.

This isn't getting forgotten while we're both alive.

I'm not forgetting it; I just need to think without you two at each other's throats.

[Apricity]

Can I vig BBT or NM
I feel like this is actually TvT

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If we're not shooting one of us I will shitpost the fuck out of this thread until you're forced to shoot because scumhunting will be impossible.

If you're town this is terrible, though I get the frustration. So please don't do that.

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It is impossible me and RadiantCowbells is TvT so we would be accomplishing a lot.

Why is this impossible? I've townread each of you individually prior to this.

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Link broken.

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I am not shooting at some arbitrary time. I will shoot today (EST), but I won't rush this. Stop pressuring me please

[Apricity]

I have a town read on BBT though lol he posts are so consistently weird i think it is just his playstyle. + the NM wagon and RC wagon where very legit.

Why is it legit? Why does consistently weird = town?

[Apricity]

@Beeboy: Since when did BBT become town? You had him as slight scum earlier.

[Apricity]

Oh good. I really really didn't want to shoot either of you. And kudos on the mutual apologies. That's more like it

Now let's figure this out, shall we? I largely agree with Bulba's pool. Beeboy thinks BBT is town though so I have to think on that. And 3dice a bit more as well.

Soren, when you're caught up some reads would be nice. Didn't get any out of you last time.

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I have never actually seen NM produce content. Is that a thing that happens?

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Yeah Bulba is definitely town. I think Dewy is too but to a lesser extent.

pedit: I'm really not sure. I still think it's better to play safe and have 2 protects on me per night--forcing scum to kill others would necessarily narrow down the pool, and two town-controlled kills per Day I think gives us a lot of opportunity to catch scum. Anyone else have thoughts regarding how we should take care of night actions?

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Oh shoot; I was thinking two protects would be enough but yeah I'd need 3 and that's too many. Ugh. Let's not talk about this now lol.

Soren and NM haven't said anything useful at all.

[Apricity]

Oh yeah, can ppl answer this (we're not discussing night actions right now but I'd still like to know): If you were scum in this setup, which kill option would you choose?

[Apricity]

You don't have to explain it; I was just asking which you'd pick. Are you concerned about how this would affect future games you play using this setup? (I guess this isn't a good question then :3)

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Oi 3dice, I have a question about your 317. You said you like blank votes, and call BBT's blank vote on NM not terrible. Why do you like blank votes, and why is BBT's not terrible? You also said BBT's insistence on a NM lynch weird because he hasn't done anything that scummy. If this is the case though, why did you not dislike BBT's vote?

[Apricity]

Okay. Forget I asked that question then

[Apricity]

Oi 3dice, I have a question about your 317. You said you like blank votes, and call BBT's blank vote on NM not terrible. Why do you like blank votes, and why is BBT's not terrible? You also said BBT's insistence on a NM lynch weird because he hasn't done anything that scummy. If this is the case though, why did you not dislike BBT's vote?

Addition to the above. If you find the push on NM odd, why did you yourself vote NM and say you liked that vote?

[Apricity]

NM said he'd be back soon ish? GMT isn't that far from EST and it's 10pm here already.

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Apricity, where are you at on Beeboy and myself?

Town on both.

[Apricity]

Lol there's still a sentence inside that I don't think I said:

"632-641:I'm glad you guys were able to make-up and were able to apologize to each other. Based on this argument, I think beeboy may be town."

[Apricity]

Shall we wait for the replacement or shift to NM for now?

[Apricity]

I don't think we should shoot until replacement.

[Apricity]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Not Mafia

Can you content now? You're back, right?

[Apricity]

Hi Errant! Tell us when you're caught up

[Apricity]

Briefly read over since my last post, but too tired to do stuff now. See y'all tomorrow morning~

[Apricity]

I'm not reading everything. I'll tell you that now.

It's far too much and I can imagine a lot of it is fluff/shitty back and forths.

No thanks.

Have you read enough to develop opinions on people besides Not Mafia?

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I think this is about the time of the month we shoot BBT.

Why are you so eager for this in particular? What about NM?

[Apricity]

He started doing

scummy things

and I came to the conclusion that it was probably because he is scum.

Where specifically?

@BBT, I'd like to know this as well.

[Apricity]

@Errant: For your catchup 11-15. RC's 323 was because I was asking him what he thought about Beeboy's read progression on 3dice. I think you're misreading it a bit. Also, why did you quote 341 from 3dice and Dewy when you're talking about beeboy accusing RC of setting up a beeboy lynch? And right above that, what is "not even close to town"?

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If NM doesn't post something soon, I'd be ok with just lasering him so we're rid of him sooner rather than later.

[Apricity]

@Errant: How do you feel about BBT? You had him at around the middle I think--has that changed at all?

[Apricity]

Oi 3dice, I have a question about your 317. You said you like blank votes, and call BBT's blank vote on NM not terrible. Why do you like blank votes, and why is BBT's not terrible? You also said BBT's insistence on a NM lynch weird because he hasn't done anything that scummy. If this is the case though, why did you not dislike BBT's vote?

Addition to the above. If you find the push on NM odd, why did you yourself vote NM and say you liked that vote?

3dice. I'd still like an answer to this.

[Apricity]

NM, if you don't post content within the next 20 minutes I'm going to shoot.

[Apricity]

Whoah whoah whoah whoah, why am I being suspected?

[Apricity]

Errant Parabola has less posts than me

Content is not defined by post number. You've got 2 minutes or something like that.

[Apricity]

Heard it here folks fire the cannons somewhere else.

You don't want NM shot anymore?

[Apricity]

BBT+Bulb

Why?

[Apricity]

BBT knows that RC behaves this way as town, it borders on Lynch All Liars

Bulba is just taking random potshots that go with the popular consensus, he hasn't actually done anything

Both are trying to look like they're doing things whilst actually giving little to no contribution, BBT has picked a random deathtunnel which he knows is bullshit

at least I'm not trying to give the allusion of 'contribution'

So are you townreading all except those two?

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What bothers me is how completely unopposed this let's-shoot-NM sentiment is. I suppose if he's scum his partner would likely have bussed by now, but still -.-

[Apricity]

Laser on NM coming in the next post unless anyone's got objections

[Apricity]

Let's dance furby.

VOTE: BBT

What is this?

[Apricity]

Laser: NM

[Apricity]

Excellent. Top lynch targets please, in light of NM's flip.

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Apricity, burden of proficiency me.

Kill the 3 that I called for. if the game isn't over kill me.

I guarantee we win.

Burden of proficiency you? What?

[Apricity]

3dice hasn't posted since page 32 and idk if I should be worried about that :/

[Apricity]

Sorry; school just started up again after our mini snow break so I'll look at this again after I finish my homework

[Apricity]

Apricity and Dewy what are your reads? Who do you want to lynch today?

I know some of you disagree, but I still think both RC and beeboy are probably town. I do need to review everything that's happened again. There's obviously the early interaction between BBT and NM that I find odd both for the degree to which BBT pushed NM and NM's unexplained weak push on BBT on page 2-3. Outside of that, I want to look at 3dice again. His posts have mostly struck me as town but there were several that did not--my question to him that iirc he never answered is also a thing.

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Apricity and Dewy what are your reads? Who do you want to lynch today?

I know some of you disagree, but I still think both RC and beeboy are probably town. I do need to review everything that's happened again. There's obviously the early interaction between BBT and NM that I find odd both for the degree to which BBT pushed NM and NM's unexplained weak push on BBT on page 2-3. Outside of that, I want to look at 3dice again. His posts have mostly struck me as town but there were several that did not--my question to him that iirc he never answered is also a thing.

game has stalled

if you're not going to drag content out of us please just hammer BBT.

I'm sorry; I've been busy with hw >.< Lemme catch up first.

[Apricity]

So, in short, RC wants BBT dead. BBT wants RC dead. EP wants beeboy dead. 3dice wants BBT dead. Bulba wants 3dice dead. Dewy wants BBT dead.

I'd like a summarized case from you guys--doesn't have to be long. But I do want to use this as a way to crystallize things a bit after everything that's happened so far.

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Oi 3dice, I have a question about your 317. You said you like blank votes, and call BBT's blank vote on NM not terrible. Why do you like blank votes, and why is BBT's not terrible? You also said BBT's insistence on a NM lynch weird because he hasn't done anything that scummy. If this is the case though, why did you not dislike BBT's vote?

Addition to the above. If you find the push on NM odd, why did you yourself vote NM and say you liked that vote?

3dice. I'd still like an answer to this.

[Apricity]

I really don't like that BBT got another load of firsthand experience with my scum play and hasn't brought anything from it to bear in this game.

It's particularly damning because I was assuming he was scum in this game and deliberately played to be similar to my play in this game; and he eventually reneged his scumread on me there and crossvoted a townie.

Explain?

[Apricity]

Will be looking through this again tomorrow morning. It's almost 1:30 am here.

[Apricity]

I'd lynch either BBT or 3dice today. Don't feel comfortable with anyone else.

[Apricity]

Talk to me apricity.

BBT and I are pretty much on opposite spectrums right now. What is holding you back from BBT and what specific problems do you have with me?

Ugh, I just don't know. The NM/BBT interaction early on was very odd, then there's the weird RC vote, and he hasn't really looked town to me this entire game. You I'm less sure about; I've thought you were pretty town sometimes and a bit scummy other times--I'd have to find the posts again. I think my preferred lynch is probably BBT though.

VOTE: BBT

[Apricity]

Guys, we need a lynch.

[Apricity]

I just have no words for what is happening right now...

I mean I sort of stopped caring when I realized we have a 99% chance of winning off the 3dice lynch.

You're *that* sure he's scum?

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Apricity, why am I scum?

I don't see why you had nearly 100% certainty NM was mafia on like the first 2 pages. I don't see why NM RVS voted you right out of the gate and proceeded to say "why's there no BBT lynch" on page 2. I don't see why you jumped on the RC wagon when it popped out of nowhere. Who do you think is scum?

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I feel like my scum reads are super obvious and I'm flabbergasted you're asking for them.

I'n good at catching scum. What can I say. NM was probably alluding to the fact I have been getting lynched a lot lately and was trying to use that as some sort of basis to make an RVS push on me.

To people who don't know me, I come off as awfully scummy.

Besides RC.

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@Apricity what is making you think 3dice is town at this point?

Not much actually. I'd thought some of his early stuff felt pretty townish, but as I was going back and reading it doesn't look super town anymore. His reasons to townread Dewy are giving me a wk vibe upon re-read. The vote on RC, even as a reaction test, was odd. I can probs switch to him; I just want to read over again.

p-edit: Ah yes; forgot about that BBT. My bad =.= I've been neglecting this game somewhat because hw.

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Oh, and-

BBT/3Dice/Beeboy

Whichever TWO of you are alive tonight are both bodyguard Apricity.

As is ErrantParabola.

So we're having Errant protect me too?

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Her, 3dice, her. I'm a girl.

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@Mod: Does a protection still go through if the person doing the protecting dies?

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You are literally setting up lynches on over half the town right now. Actually why the hell am I not voting you right now?

Because you guys agreed not to lol

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My issue with setting up a protection queue at all is that it pretty much tells scum who does and does not have a doc left.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: 3dice

We're running out of time, and after re-reading I now think this is the better lynch.

I believe this is

L-1

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I'd like us to lynch within the next few hours if possible...I won't be able to post in time tomorrow because I'll be at school.

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Dude. RC. Wth was that?

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I mean, not immediately =.= But yeah, BBT goes next.

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Sorry 3dice

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Well. I think both RC and beeboy are town too. Sorry to disappoint you both lol but I don't think I'll be shooting either of you.

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Will look at this tomorrow; I need my sleep -.-

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Apricity where.

Here. Reading now. Mostly caught up on sleep but have a pile of hw waiting for me.

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I'm done responding to Beeboy directly.

Apricity, if you need a full case I'll be able to provide you one.

I'd like this. But I see further down the page Beeboy has this plan so I'll look at that first and see if it's still necessary.

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Beeboy, did you bet the game on BBT and EP being town? Because if you didn't protect me last night I think that's what you did. Still not completely sold on what happened clearing BBT and EP as town though.

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I'm fine with that plan. Only issue is that it all comes crashing down if scum have the normal factional kill option here.

p-edit: How does that make RC scum? I'm not sure whether or not he used his shield.

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So it's Beeboy and either EP or BBT today?

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Wasn't the point to pick someone who's used their shield?

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Or did like no one actually doc me last night (that would be hilarious if true and scum had the 2x and didn't kill)

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EP claims to have docced you at the very least.

Where? I didn't see that.

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Ugh. We need to straighten this out. The plan was something like this right beeboy?

Today: Laser and lynch Beeboy + BBT or EP
Tonight: Use remaining shields
Tomorrow: Laser and lynch someone else + RC?

The point was for RC to pick 2 ppl he thinks is town, iirc.

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I'm writing an essay for English is where I'm at. Won't likely get on until tomorrow.

@Bulba: Remember early game when you were confused about the whole protecting the laser cannon thing? And then you said it wasn't a townslip? What else would it be if not a townslip?
@Beeboy and RC: So are we throwing the whole BoP RC thing out the window?
@BBT: What happened to pushing RC?
@EP: If Dewy isn't scum, who do you think it would be?

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We need a shot.

BBT shot + RC lynch today? And whoever else tomorrow?

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Why are we talking about Bulb? That was so out of the blue.

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Ahhhhhhhh idk anymore :/

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Also I don't specifically recall Bulba being the reason 3dice was lynched? That was kinda my fault. And even then, it's not exactly something to sound proud about since it was a mislynch :/

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Laser: BBT

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Well pooh. Sorry BBT

Need to think about this more. EP and Bulba still kinda worry me.

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Sigh. So it's Beeboy today, RC tomorrow?

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Will do some ISO readings over the weekend. May not have time till Saturday evening or Sunday though because our orchestra is playing in another city tomorrow and I have the SAT on Saturday.

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I thought he was scum.

Since when?

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I thought he was town.

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RC, get in here. I can see you.

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I've actually pretty damn pissed Beeboy got lynched. That was totally not what I wanted.

p-edit: What, cause you were wrong? Everyone's wrong sometimes. Don't sulk and help me figure this out.

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Like, I was wrong about 3dice and BBT this game. And pignash and SirCakez in that other newbie game--I drove SirCakez' lynch the entire day and it was wrong =.=

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How do you feel about Bulba and EP?

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I'm not sure. townreading both.

Where do you stand so far?

The abruptness of Bulba's hammer on beeboy is really not sitting well with me, especially since he never stated intent and the only reason he had to scumread beeboy was because beeboy called him out for not having done meaningful things this game. Bulba also said something about being the reason 3dice was lynched, which I don't really think is true, and even if it is it's not exactly something to be proud of/waving around like "here I did things (it was a ML but shhh)."

I'd think both EP and Dewy are probs town. The Dewy read is a bit more gut than the EP read.

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We have two weeks, so no rush.

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I'm just going to drop these here to remind myself to look at them again:
43, 645, 171, 168, 1404

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RC, did you get banned?

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I can't decide whether I need to pick one scum to get lynched with me or one town to live with me.

Apricity decides that, not me.

How I play out this game will depend on that.

Dewy's off the table. I'm pretty sure she's town. Bulba's quickhammer concerns me far more, and EP's oddly disappeared. I actually almost want to just shoot either Bulba or EP now...

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The reason is he was calling me scum for the "slip". We already got through that.

Who, beeboy? BBT?

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And yes reads would be nice.

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Will look more tonight. I have a concert that will take up most of the evening.

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So RC, EP, and Bulba all think Dewy is scummy? That...kinda concerns me.

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That was a terrible explanation :/ EP can't do anything about what Soren did, and Soren said he couldn't keep up with the game, which was why he replaced out in the first place. You'll have to have a better explanation than inactivity.

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Which reminds me again of how annoyed I am that Bulba hammered. That was also terrible.

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*cough*

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EP, where are you at with scumreads/townreads?

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Sigh. I need a re-read too.

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Does NM bus as scum? I need to know this.

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Same thing for Bulba.

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Look at this: 619, 620. Not sure that consecutive vote would come from a scumbuddy. It's odd.

And also, RC could've hammered here but didn't: 622

891 seems to imply that NM doesn't bus...but I'm not sure.

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Ranger, you forget the 2-shot NK. If scum had only the normal factional kill there would be dead bunkers by now, but there have not been dead town, which means scum must have the 2x kill--in which case only your single protection is not enough if scum use both shots on me tonight.

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I hate this. I think I have reasons to townread and scumread everyone alive atm. It's frustrating and I should shoot within the hour because we're running out of time and I have somewhere to be this evening and I don't get back till late. AHHH

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So for Bulba/Ranger--Bulba's hammer on Beeboy I still think was bad, and the only reason he articulated for that was because Beeboy at one point suspected him iirc...and his weird thing at the beginning where he was asking whether town is supposed to protect the cannon and then said something about how that wasn't a townslip. And how he was like "I haven't gotten a chance to try out my new scum meta because I'm town this game." And that identical vote right after NM I found earlier. And when he complained about RC voting NM ("you just said you didn't care about votes") though I forget where that was. Ranger's case at first glance seems almost too perfect. One thing that bothers me about it is the tone...I thought he sounded more like he was talking *at* town in a speech-like manner in order to persuade rather than having the main purpose of trying to figure things out.

I personally found RC extremely town for most of the game but I haven't seen scum RC so idk.

I can't see EP defending RC this hard as scum against Ranger's case. The Soren slot didn't do much and never really gave reads so idk what to think on that front and there's nothing I can do about it really.

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^ Specifically post 1615. "Yes, I know it's long. It'll be tedious to read. Isoing RC is never easy. But trust me..."

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Sorry I'm not being terribly articulate. It's late and I want to sleep but this is bothering me and we don't have time.

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I'm pretty sure Dewy is town. But if you can't look elsewhere while she's alive then I'll shoot her.