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[Creature]

Hello

VOTE: RaisusTheFlammie

First

[Creature]

Heh

[Creature]

Force me

[Creature]

What are you feeling?

[Creature]

Which alignment do you prefer to play?

Town

[Creature]

I heard 'L-1 me'

pedit:

[Creature]

@Sméagol - Which RVS vote you find unnatural?

[Creature]

And what about NM, jmo, and I?

You got nothing from it?

[Creature]

Happy Easter!

[Creature]

Not_Mafia

I don't understand why you were aiming to put someone at L-1 at the very start. I know it's RVS, but was there any intention behind this?

[Creature]

Sméagol

Prove you're reading.

[Creature]

Wait, was that the hammer?

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Not_Mafia

This is the problem of putting someone at L-1 at the very start of the game.

[Creature]

Sméagol, are you scum?

[Creature]

It's already twilight.

pisskop, post what you have to post.

[Creature]

Sméagol, I want your own opinions.

[Creature]

You're currently not helping much.

[Creature]

On anything you've read.

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Mod

Can you prod jmo?

[Creature]

Town reading a person who hasn't posted anything outside the RVS (and RQS).

[Creature]

I just noticed this:

Spoiler:

I was kind of okay were we were.

We were Wotcing RC and I was waiting for other players to step in and do things.

Can we chill down and keep all issues aside? Why do people love to do things like this. People might do mistakes or w.e so just let it be. Its not good mafia if its too perfect. Noone was born perfect

Personally, I didn't like this reaction. ZZZX defends RC and says that everyone makes mistakes, which is not a good reason. White-knighting RC.

pisskop vs rad has at least 1 scum

You heard it here first.

FOS: RC for somewhat trying to provoke Pisskop at page 1. Shit's nasty.

Later he changes his opinion on RC, the reason also isn't that good.

[Creature]

Pretty sure Kain knew he was hammering pisskop.

[Creature]

NM still didn't answer my question properly.

[Creature]

VOTE: ZZZX

[Creature]

I just noticed this:

Spoiler:

I was kind of okay were we were.

We were Wotcing RC and I was waiting for other players to step in and do things.

Can we chill down and keep all issues aside? Why do people love to do things like this. People might do mistakes or w.e so just let it be. Its not good mafia if its too perfect. Noone was born perfect

Personally, I didn't like this reaction. ZZZX defends RC and says that everyone makes mistakes, which is not a good reason. White-knighting RC.

pisskop vs rad has at least 1 scum

You heard it here first.

FOS: RC for somewhat trying to provoke Pisskop at page 1. Shit's nasty.

Later he changes his opinion on RC, the reason also isn't that good.

Opinions?

[Creature]

Sméagol, why are you voting KainTepes?

[Creature]

Well, here I am.

[Creature]

VOTE: KainTepes

this became a policy lynch tbh.

Pretty sure this is not how you respond to an accusation, even if it's from Kain.

[Creature]

Is Raisus newbtown or is he just throwing out all sorts in the hope some of it will stick?

You should have an idea.

tbh he's doing better than most of you.

[Creature]

[..]

Okay, this makes for some interesting reading. Someone either can't count (something, that I think for a player who has played quite a few times would be able to add up) or something's amiss with KT...
VOTE: KainTepes

Haha, bastard..
VOTE: KainTepes

Sméagol, what even is this vote? Are you actually suspecting KainTepes over a reason besides his fake-hammer?

[Creature]

UNVOTE: ZZZX

Well, I am supposed to take the vote.

[Creature]

VOTE: RC

Well, he really has to answer, so far he has been avoidant. I'll take a look around the thread, but this is my vote for now.

[Creature]

I AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's when this gets confusing.

I haven't read the last few pages. I expect to be caught up by the end of the day.

By the end of the IRL day or the in-game day?

[Creature]

@Creature, do you have a follow-up or what?

I don't know what do you mean.

[Creature]

@Creature, do you have a follow-up or what?

I don't know what do you mean.

Do you have any problems with my current vote?

No, but I don't think he'll answer you.

I want to know what do you mean with follow-up.

[Creature]

I didn't notice (the question you asked to Kain) at first. Though, I am not up to argue the questions you asked to him.

[Creature]

UNVOTE: RC

Let me think a bit.

[Creature]

RC

Don't expect all of your votes to vanish just because of your bluffing. You had the chance to speak when nobody's was putting pressure on you, why didn't you do that?

Why are you scumreading PK besides his meta?

[Creature]

VOTE: jmo16mla

Okay, I am tired of waiting. You've been just saying you're catching up soon but you still did nothing.

[Creature]

RadiantCowbells

That's bluffing. You keep saying that if we lynch you it means we're terrible, yet you refuse to do anything other than attack PK.

[Creature]

Promise I'll get yo this tonight. Lol

JMO, I really am not liking this noncommittal stance after you "promised" you would.

Is is scummy? Or just me being lazy and not getting to a computer?

Not really scum-indicative, but this is still a strategy to avoid making any alignment indicative post, therefore scum-indicative as I believe town would at least comment on something they saw so far, I don't think you've been trying to catch up.

[Creature]

Okay, let's make jmo talk while Radiant get his time to scum hunt without pressure.

[Creature]

Pretty sure my intention was making jmo speak, not lynch.

[Creature]

Titus

How did you reach this scum pool? Why are you town reading everybody else?

[Creature]

KainTepes

Aren't you going to say anything?

[Creature]

Who's still town reading NM? I'd like to talk about that.

[Creature]

Because I want to know why are you excluding people who've been doing almost nothing.

[Creature]

jmo, the one who's still trying to catch up (or just pretending to) and Not_Mafia.

[Creature]

For now I want to push these underradar travellers (Sméagol, Not_Mafia, jmo16mla).

[Creature]

Okay, I'll take another look, but I was town reading him until now.

[Creature]

First 'official' game on here, so please take care, mmkay?

@Smeagol. TBH, I dislike random votes. I prefer to see how people act and react and vote accordingly, of course, there's always a little of the old WIFOM to take into account, but meh.

VOTE: Vote: ZZZX - haven't heard from you yet

His opinion, but not sure why the need to talk about the WIFOM.

[Creature]

@pisskop: I haven't build up enough yet to make a definitive scumread or townread of any of you, so for now it's null, with probably a bit of scumlean with you, PK

Fence-sitting at reads. His "with probably a bit of scumlean with you" seemed like an "I am keeping an eye on you"

[Creature]

The fencesitting doesn't look alignment indicative for me, the scumlean on PK seemed normal for town.

[Creature]

Personally, I'm not sure, there's just something about your responses that just don't sit right with me.

Fence-sitting, but again shows he's keeping an eye on pisskop/Titus.

RaisusTheFlammie

Maybe you could mention what don't sit right with you?

I personally don't like RVS simply because 9 out of 10 times we lynch a townie... (since we really don't have enough to go on other than hunches)

Seemed like an opinion to me.

[Creature]

@pisskop, because, as far as I'm concerned, not responding is anti-town

Damn right I am UNVOTE: ,
VOTE: pisskop

Nah, you just made it clear exactly what your motives are and I don't like it.

Right.


Your whole interaction with me is an example of noncomittence and dodgery.

Give me one example of non-commitance, just one. Seems to me like you're intentionally trying to deflect pressure away from

YOU

instead.

Tunneling on pisskop, but I am still not sure why besides PK not responding to him. RTF, could you say more about this?

[Creature]

RaisusTheFlammie

About post #264:
Do you still believe in a KT/(PK/Titus) scum team?
If yes, what more posts you can see they're buddying?
If no, then what's your new bet?

[Creature]

Woops, my bad, I mean't KT/ZZZX.

[Creature]

How much efficiency do you think there'll have by wagoning Raisus without even pointing what he should answer/defend to?

[Creature]

Okay, this RC-PK argument is going nowhere, fast.

Just Isolating jmo16mla and I see a startling lack of substance in his posts right from the moment we started. I feel as though he is deliberately stalling/lurking and want to call him out on it. Here. Now.
VOTE: jmo16mla

I have no idea what you want to do but I am starting to scum read you hard.

You call it scum reading? I call it scum hunting. jmo has had a distinct lack of content this entire game and, while Pisskop and Radiant both seem suspicious (with my preference for scum leaning towards PK than RC right now) in my eyes, I'd prefer if we Lynch All Lurkers.

Again, my intention wasn't lynching jmo, it was to make him speak. Still, he didn't speak anything. Even though jmo should be lynched if he keeps not doing anything, we're not earning anything from it.
I need something better than "Pisskop and Radiant both seem suspicious".

[Creature]

and you're literally doing everything to get me to vote pisskop, which in turn makes you look scummy in return. Either accept that I'm basing this on jmo's reluctance to post or not, tbh i'm fed up of the lot of you. I've half a mind to replace out

Okay, you've been scum reading pisskop since the beginning, why are you reluctant to vote him now?

[Creature]

Titus

That's it for now. I am going give him time to answer these, if his defense doesn't convince me, then I'll follow your vote.

[Creature]

Raisus, replacing out will make it more complicated for us.

[Creature]

Raisus, replacing out will make it more complicated for us.

I am afraid your replacer will just say "well, i don't know what he was doing"

[Creature]

RadiantCowbells

Do this post convince you?

God Dammit. Hit enter too soon. Meant to answer you properly. Sorry about that. (@Mod, please merge this post with that other one if you can?)

1. I think what got me was the attitude of his actions, they felt stilted and as if he was trying to rile me up (Which in effect he did do)
2. that was an opinion, I'm not professing any kind of legitimate claim for that at all.

3. It was probably a case of I got carried away with the argument we were having and forgot to take a step back and look objectively at it.

4. I don't think I've ever professed a KT/ZZZX scumteam, My hunch is on Pisskop/Titus and jmo or KainTepes (this latter one depends entirely on jmo's willingness to co-operate with us and actually post.

p-edit:
5. I figured that much but at the moment, there doesn't seem to be any favourable swing for any party and rather than have the wagon die, I wanted to try and get a counterwagon up on jmo to get him to contribute, it's nothing less than what he deserves for being AFK for so long

[Creature]

I am not seeing him as scum either. I find it weird he attacked jmo though.

[Creature]

tbh I liked Raisus, I was pushing him so I could get more from what he was talking. I didn't want him to replace because I still want to know more about his intentions.

[Creature]

Titus

Excluding me, did your read change on Raisus?

[Creature]

@Creature, huh?

Do you still see Raisus as scum?

[Creature]

I don't see any need to hide this anymore, so I am claiming BP.

[Creature]

I'm done catching up.

Support the Creature wagon, vote him.

Don't and explain why you don't and I'll tell you why you're wrong.

I still don't understand how your reads went on me. Were you just considering the initial pages?

[Creature]

VOTE: creature

I read your iso, Its got a lot of posts, but you arent really saying much. I want everyone else to take a look also.

Did you bother reading my last posts? Or are you following this because Titus and RC are insisting you to vote?

[Creature]

RadiantCowbells

Your reads look a bit off. Do you actually believe Titus and I are the scum team? Why do you town read Not_Mafia in every page?

[Creature]

VOTE: creature

I still think RTF slot is scum here. I think Creature was positioning rather than scumhunting though too.

Considering RC likes Creature, I can go here.

Looks like you wanted to get RTF lynched but seeing how RC wouldn't vote him, you decided to instead wagon me because RC would follow you. Also, the one positioning must be you, you're probably going to put the blame on RC for my mislynch or attack another player from your scum pool and get away with it.

[Creature]

527 is such a horrible post as well.

Think we've caught scum here.

Please, not your empty statements again.

[Creature]

Depends, are you scum reading me in the first 7 pages?

[Creature]

This is starting to look like more pessimism than scum read.

[Creature]

Yes.

[Creature]

What is towny to you? Anyone voting me is town? That's a dumb logic.

[Creature]

What is towny for you?

[Creature]

You're being pretty pessimist.

[Creature]

Don't and explain why you don't and I'll tell you why you're wrong.

You're really trying to manipulating town to not oppose this lynch with this statement.

[Creature]

Okay, let's try again then.

Don't hammer yet.

[Creature]

Okay, tbh I highly believe RC is mafia right now.

If you have to lynch me to prove it, then let's do this.

But I want to discuss more before I am lynched.

[Creature]

Just going to jump into this really lazily.

RC, what's creature done that you think he is scum?

VOTE: creature

I read your iso, Its got a lot of posts, but you arent really saying much. I want everyone else to take a look also.

How did your change your opinions out of my ISO? You're just going to base your reads off it?

[Creature]

Nah, at this point I want to solve this me vs RC (vs Titus).

[Creature]

I am not even scum.

[Creature]

You're starting to sound ridiculous.

[Creature]

Yes.

[Creature]

Calm down, I am not flaking out.

[Creature]

Shouldn't Creature be getting a prod?
I have them as null at the moment and I don't think they have posted once since I replaced in.

Out from all my posts, you read me as null?

[Creature]

If you want to discuss about something, we can discuss about my BP claim and a lynch target.

[Creature]

Would not mind lynching jmo16mla, but I believe we can get a better associative Lynch.

[Creature]

Congratulations, Titus

[Creature]

Fire Assassin

Shouldn't Creature be getting a prod?
I have them as null at the moment and I don't think they have posted once since I replaced in.

Out from all my posts, you read me as null?