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Garbage. As lane said, I can't be a townread after 3 posts, which were:In post 121, Xkfyu wrote:Reads list:
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Lilith
Snarky
lane
Kuroi
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Soren (but not with Javajoe)
Those are in no particular order, and mostly based on gut, right now. So, come on, let's do this.
1) a random vote post,
2) an arbitrary, unrelated statement,
3) a non-committal easy to call position on an argument (TvT)
The fact that I'm in "townread" and not "null" suggests to me you bs'd that list pretty hard. So VOTE: xkfyu-
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This.In post 453, lane0168 wrote:
The more vt's that claim, the better chance scum have of hitting pr's. Is what clumsy is getting atIn post 445, Javajoe24 wrote:Because of balancing issues. And replenishing for VT? I am only asking for one other to confirm my theory.
And I can't tell if javajoe is rolefishing or just didn't think of that.-
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This is garbage. I've already explained why. And the fact that you tried to suggest that was a reasonable read to have me in town (see 123, 143) then being wishy-washy in 155. Hah.In post 121, Xkfyu wrote:Reads list:
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Lilith
Snarky
lane
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Clumsy
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Soren (but not with Javajoe)
Those are in no particular order, and mostly based on gut, right now. So, come on, let's do this.
Great wifom. I could offer a few reasons, such as that I tend to be easily mislynched, and calling me town from the get-go could be townpoints.In post 173, Xkfyu wrote:Snarky, if I'm scum and you're town, why would I even bother stating a town read on you when I could easily just say that you're a null read since you haven't posted anything significant yet?
Nice turn here.In post 214, Xkfyu wrote:
I did do a little reading, and now I kinda want to scum read Snarky, as well, but I don't want Kuroi to get mad at me for sheeping.In post 213, lane0168 wrote:Doubt it... Considering the state of this game, snarky's posts and what I read elsewhere, I call bull shit. He doesn't have a valid reason for the scumread. I encourage others to do a little checking themselves
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See my previous readlist post - scumlean, not a ton of confidence.In post 565, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
So three plus days before deadline you think you have a better chance of rallying 4 other votes to Xk than other currently more viable wagons?In post 564, SnarkySnowman wrote:I think xk is more compelling than clumsy at the moment, MoI.
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@xk, the vote on TTH is also completely bogus and weak.
@Lane, I explained my two scumreads, that's all I feel like explaining for now in depth. TTH and MoI I'm pretty confident are town, especially with MoI's entrance to the game, those posts are obvtown.
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They were killing with as much information as they had prior to game start - trying to read into it gets into a lot of wifom that is not productive. It's basically two different games happening, where you have the same character name and likely a different (or maybe the same) role. They had no info to base the kill on, and there doesn't seem to be much cross-world stuff. That's why I dismiss it.In post 789, lilith2013 wrote:
I disagree. Clumsy here is trying to look for an explanation for Xk to be the nightkill. Since we've only been in Earth One until now, the Earth Two scum team has to decide their kill based on Earth One play. It might be relevant to discuss Earth One play in this situation. I don't like that you're so quick to dismiss it.In post 787, SnarkySnowman wrote:So I'm not sure exactly what to make of discussion on World 1 while on World 2 - feels like trying to be productive in a way that isn't relevant to whom we're actually lynching. So my vote isn't exactly random.
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LOLIn post 855, KuroiXHF wrote:Oh, and VOTE: Snarky Snowman
He's sketchy as fuck, even more useless than Earth One and only exists to defend himself - he's even doing that half-assed. He's not catching scum. He has no reason even being in this game.-
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Your case on me is laughable at best, Kuroi. That's why LOL. I'm not sure if anyone else sees why this is so funny?
Your whole readlist is garbage. This is what xk did in Earth 1 that made me scumread him so hard. And the fact that you have me as #1 scumread? ahahahahahahahahaha In addition to all the other reads, which are pretty much garbage to me. Lilith as null? Yea right. MoI strong town? LOL. Clumsy and Javajoe? Especially after your reason for Joe? LOL
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"Gut town" "TvT" "null" which one is the odd one out? I see your line of thinking but the conclusion is pretty forced.In post 854, KuroiXHF wrote: To reiterate, this only covers Earth Two - starting at 699
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745 Second time I've read this post. I liked it the first time I've read it. I still don't dislike it. It sounds fair to ask and while it may be throwing shade, I can see town asking that.
780 Coming by this again, Ireallydon't like this. Then she voted me again the day after. If she really thought MoI was scum, she should have stayed by that. Then she voted me. Then she said this was a joke. ...This collection of posts just brought her into scum territory.
- Slight gut town feeling, although it's hard to feel this way when everything she says and does makes me want to vote her.
- 830 Good question coming from Lilith. Good enough to put her back to null.
- Most of Page 34 with MoI appear to be TvT.
Not a lot of content for a very strong read.
blah blah bullshit reason for town + "I agreed" Also I love the quoteClumsy:
- General rule. Clumsy is speaking with all of us in a very fluid and natural motion. Gut feeling he's town.
- 769 This is the first post I didn't like and I just noticed it now. The vibe I'm getting from, "I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I'll get back to you" doesn't feel genuine.
- He delivers a wall on 771. It looks like a lost, but appears to be some fluff. My gut still says town, but no longer strong town. More like lean town.
- Agree with 793. Lane's logic is flawed.
- 834 If you're going to make such a statement and declare someone town, backing your case with, "gut" is weak support.
Considering you did exactly this in the previous quote.If you're going to make such a statement and declare someone town, backing your case with, "gut" is weak support.
WeakJavajoe24:
- General gut feeling of town.
812 - I hope this is a prod dodge, because this post just seems kind of useless, shouting, "HEY SCUM! I'M A POWER ROLE!"
.......TellTaleHeart
717 And here we have riddles for posts. I don't town read it like I did before, especially since he didn't post much after this. Actually, why isn't he prodded?
736 Naked vote. No reason. No background. No indication. Nothing.
785 Usually, a v/la means you'd offer less content, not stagnate the amount.
1) how was my laziness this RVS different from my Earth 1 laziness at RVS? You didn't comment on it then, I didn't think.SnarkySnowman:
713 - I was actually pinged by Snowman's laziness at an RVS. It's not everyday that these posts ping me, but they do.
762 - Shortly is actually quite a long time, eh? At least if he calls my penis short, it may not be so bad.
787 - Useless. This reeks of coasting.
820 - Thanks for telling us how this game works. We know. Want to... uhhh... y'know... be useful?
2) shortly is when I get to it.
3) Eh.
4) I explained to lilith why I dismissed the speculation on why the kill happened. Literally all we get from the kill is the fact that xk is not scum in Earth 2.
I disagree with almost all of your reads. And no, you haven't really proved why you townread Clumsy.Read List:
Strong Town: MoI
Lean Town: JavaJoe, Clumsy
Null: Lilith
Lean Scum: Lane, TTH
Strong Scum: Snowman
Back to Clumsy - I know I've not mentioned Earth One in this post, but I'm sure I've posted well enough on Earth One's Day One why I scum read you. Do you think I've sufficiently proved why I town read you now?-
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and again, LOLIn post 860, KuroiXHF wrote:And there's a OMGYS vote.
There are no specific mentions to my readlist.
Snowman, you have a chance to redeem yourself. What are your reads? Mark specific posts. Spend some time and actually think about it.-
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Hmm. Again, I see your thought process on Ranger being scum, but I'm starting to think maybe not so much on Earth 1 and more on Earth 2? I'm going to have to see her Earth 1 focus before I really make up my mind on that one though.In post 975, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Not completely accurate. I think Ranger is scum on one Earth at least. Not sorted as of yet which (or both).In post 974, Clumsy wrote:Also, let me make sure I have this right. Ranger thinks you're scum on Earth-One, and you think she's scum on Earth-Two, right? Ranger, what makes you think Magna is town on Earth-Two exactly?-
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You've pretty much got me sold there.In post 981, Ranger wrote:
Yes. I went over the logic here extensively.lilith wrote:I mean, Ranger, you've literally just decided that I must be scum and no matter what the NK was supposed to be, I'm scum, based on, what exactly?
If Xkfyu was flat-out nightkilled in this earth, it was likely for his play in last earth. His play in last-earth would suggest you as a major candidate for being scum in this earth, afraid he would catch you.
If Xkfyu successfully protected someone, he likely saved someone who scum of Earth-2 wanted gone. Assuming that one player who's scum on earth-1 draws town in earth-2, but that the other scum is scum on both earths, then there would be fallout from this in-thread. The scum-turned-town player cannot play against their wincon and say they're scum in earth-1, but having that knowledge, they would be incredibly suspicious of their earth-1 scumbuddy in earth-2 and think they were still scum.
This is a match for the interactions between MagnaofIllusion and you.
723, 745, 746, 748, 753, 774, 807, 832, 835, 836, 837, 838, 839, 841, 842, that whole stream of posts towards each other read as this type of interaction. Youknowthe alignments of each other in Earth-1. I think one, but not both, of you kept that alignment in Earth-2.
Your play in here is more or less identical to your play on Earth-1, whereas MagnaofIllusion is playing more to his "a-HA! Gotcha!" town game.
Furthermore, supporting that you're scum in Earth-1 is the already-established fact you were a neighbor with Javajoe, playing in the most scummy way a neighbor could possibly be treating their neighbor. It also matches your interactions with MagnaofIllusion in Earth-1. You engage in questioning of one another, yet you never actually vote each other. You basically didn't interact with Soren, your interaction with MagnaofIllusion did happen but nothing productive, and while MagnaofIllusion distanced by calling you bad, you get gems like his 482 where you are among precious few townreads. 497 is another classical scum-scum interaction. It's everywhere.
You two are scum together in that Earth.
You are probably not scum together in this Earth.
I think this is MagnaofIllusion's town game.
I also think you are still scum in this Earth.
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Pretty sure Spiderman is Marvel...In post 700, KuroiXHF wrote:Because Spiderman does what he wants.
Following Ranger's case that lilith is scum, and my own notion that Kuroi is scum (earth 2 talk only this post),
Seems to fit, given the interaction (which starts post ~748 or so, between lilith and kuroi) - there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of reason for Kuroi to make that vote imo.In post 752, KuroiXHF wrote:This as as minor as they are and I'm sure it can change considering how early it is on essentially, a different day one...
VOTE: MoI
And 757 confuses me a little bit, too.
Also, Kuroi's 764:
________________________________________In post 764, KuroiXHF wrote:It is early and possibly premature, but my first guess of Earth Two scum is Lilith and MoI.
Side NoteIn post 810, lilith2013 wrote:My "case" for scum!magna was actually his post about you striking me as so at odds with his D1 posting.@Lilith:What makes you think MoI is scum in Earth 2 but town in Earth 1, compared to the opposite?
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813 to 816 is another interaction, though I think this one is probably more my confbias, not really an important interaction. Not sure.
836 is a great one (that Ranger pointed out) that I think illustrates the difference between Earth 1 and Earth 2 MoI. And also some similarities between lilith's E1 and E2.
^Feels like classic buddying towards lilith's points, along with softbussing.In post 843, KuroiXHF wrote:Here are my thoughts.
- I think the speed-lynch on MoI is ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as he thinks. Lilith brought up a good point. I felt it was enough for a vote, but not enough for a lynch. That's why I backed out.
- I find Clumsy to be obvious scum on Earth One and Telltale to be obvious town on Earth One. Switch those, and that's Earth Two. (Except I wouldn't call Telltale obvious scum. He's definitely lean scum, though.)
- Lane I'm waffling on. He's probably town on Earth One, but definitely not Earth Two.
- Lilith I kind of want to vote, but it's giving me worries that I'm scum reading everyone.
- MoI should have been voted for not producing his usual insight, but not for existing. Not on essentially Day One of Earth Two.
See the top part of my post 862, I agree with myself and feel a little stronger about it, the readlist Kuroi does in 854 feels pretty forced, especially on his read for lilith, which is all over the place. That whole readlist is pretty garbage, tbh.
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Congrats on tying the knot, have a good honeymoon!In post 1008, KuroiXHF wrote:Sorry guys. I swore I posted my notice of v/la. I had my wedding. I am here. I'll hopefully post by tonight. If not then, definitely tomorrow.-
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Implying you do now?In post 1050, KuroiXHF wrote:
That means that I didn't think there were more than one gladiators this Earth. I guess there are, but I don't think there are more than one town-based ones.And again: "I don't think there's one this Earth? Do you?" What does this mean? Because it's looking like you know something we don't.-
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It makes sense from the perspective of trying to confuse people :/In post 1081, lilith2013 wrote:The Kuroi kill makes no sense whatsoever from any perspective.
I really didn't expect kuroi to turn up town though. Actually wtf at the 2 town gladiators.
SO aside from the obvious "kuroi was town" bit, why do people actually think I'm scum?