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Post #55 (isolation #1) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:07 am
Postby BlackStar »
I thought he was saying that you shouldn't rely solely on math to predict how people will act in the game. Which is kind of ironic because he's the one who brought up math in the first place
In post 55, BlackStar wrote:I thought he was saying that you shouldn't rely solely on math to predict how people will act in the game. Which is kind of ironic because he's the one who brought up math in the first place
Its mostly hypocritical.
I am just trying to get support for my idea.
I don't believe my data shows how players actually play. I think people just eat up data easily.
~Mas Y
Okay. Why are you guys even arguing about this? Instead of talking about theories and probabilities, just play the game lol
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Post #73 (isolation #3) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:26 am
Postby BlackStar »
In post 68, Gamma Emerald wrote:Here it is:
1: What is your preferred faction?
2: What would you say you bring to the game that others don't?
3: Tell me a bit about your username, signature, and/or avatar.
My answers:
1: I would have to say town because the game feels more relaxed.
2: I bring a sense of humor I would say is nigh unrivaled.
3: My username is an old idea of a Pokemon Emerald remake. My signature is a quote from a webcomic, and I find the quote works really well here.
And about those wagons, I have seen votes meant to bait reactions on EpicMafia plenty of times. It's not only about successful wagons.
1. Mafia because I'm almost always town
2. Lulzy gifs and a little bit of chaos
3. Blackstar is the title of a novel I was working on. I always choose avatars that look creepy lol. Right now I have a Ryuk gif as my avatar
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Post #85 (isolation #4) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:59 am
Postby BlackStar »
In post 74, Alchemist21 wrote:We're not No Lynching Days 1 and 2. The reason scum lynches on D1 are uncommon are because of the higher ratio of Town:scum. Even if we're wrong the lynches thin out the suspect pool and give us info to work with.
Plus I joined this game to play mafia, not to not play it.
McMenno's probably trolling anyway and fire is letting him.
VOTE: Comparing Realities
I think rb gives off the serious try-hard posts of a semi-experienced Town player, so they're my first Town read.
P.S. Why are so many people switching over to Death Note avatars these days? Did everyone just binge the series at the same back-to-school time or something?
I started out with a death note avatar and then circled back around to it lol
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Post #88 (isolation #5) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:11 am
Postby BlackStar »
I don't think Mas y Menos are scum. Their no lynch idea was a flawed theory and it brought a huge amount of attention to them right off the bat. Bringing attention to yourself is suboptimal scum play so I don't see why they'd want to bring themselves into the limelight
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Post #93 (isolation #6) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:23 am
Postby BlackStar »
In post 81, Gamma Emerald wrote:I guess I'll add those.
4: What is your experience with Mafia?
5: Who here have you played with before?
My answers
4: One near complete off site forum game, one ongoing game here, many EM games, and many IRL games.
5: No one.
4. I've been playing for 10 months
5. I've played with BTD, Firebringer, xyzzy and comparing realities
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Post #198 (isolation #15) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:22 am
Postby BlackStar »
In post 196, rb wrote:Why is being wagon-happy in the early game scummy though? I don't agree with that.
He votes someone, doesn't really apply any pressure and then moves onto the next person as soon as suspicious on comes their way. I don't like the tone of his posts because they feel forced to me.
First of all, On that post, You said we should just skip D1 and D2 because we auto win when we lynched a Mafia D3. So how do we lynch scum if we don't have any evidences and info?
NL-ing on D1 and D2 is never a good choice. There's still a chance that if we lynched a mafia D1 or D2, We can use some things that he town read the most, Which have a possibility it's his scum buddy.
For me, you are the most scummy here and I don't get your point.
VOTE: Mas y Menos
You initially vote him because you don't understand him. Yeah, he made a bad point but having a bad idea doesn't make you scum. The normal thing to do is to ask someone to explain them self when you don't understand them. You didn't ask for more justification and just jumped straight into a vote.
In post 30, Mas y Menos wrote:Like the chance of scum lynch on day 1 is objectively low.
A player on my homesite once did an analysis of lynches day 1, it hit scum in 5% of the total games.
And games where the town no lynched on day 1 they had an 20% higher chance of winning then if they did lynch day 1.
You're saying this cauz' you will kill someone but xyzzy and after that, you'll kill her next night. Still I would love to vote for you.
This post is dumb. It's just baseless accusations and acting as if they're fact. And then you somehow forget that you're voting for him and say you'd love to vote for him. Wtf? Even if you did forget that you're were voting him, you could've just voted again. Why would you say that someone is scum and you want to vote them and then not do it?
{deleted: ongoing games discussion — callforjudgement}
Plus, your arguments are plain non sense. Why? It doesn't involve scum hunting; You're arguing about CR's wall post which is meh; Can you explain more clearly why are you voting for xyzzy?
If you don't like this game, consider replacing out.
VOTE: rb
That looks like you're alluding to an ongoing game. Please stay well away from any mention of ongoing games; just because you don't say their name, that doesn't necessarily mean it's impossible for people to work out what you mean (and if you
want
people to work out what you mean, you're pretty much talking about the game directly). — callforjudgement
Key's next post is him replying to a random post from five million years ago. I don't know why you'd randomly ask this now instead of going after the guy you supposedly scum read so strongly.
I like this better than Mas. Xyzzy doesn't do much other than throw shade and despite thinking I'm a strong lynch candidate, keeps their vote aligned with mine. Key, Alchemist: thoughts?
UNVOTE:
Hmm.. Lemmee do an Iso read.
Your scum read votes for someone so you unvote and listen to them? That makes absolutely no sense. You could've looked through xyzzy's ISO without unvoting first. This just looks to me like you knew the whole time that rb was town, his wagon didn't gain enough traction and you were getting ready to hop off his wagon and join him on the xyzzy wagon
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Post #225 (isolation #22) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:22 am
Postby BlackStar »
In post 189, keyenpeydee wrote:rb, well i did an iso read and gotta say I'm actually surprised that her vote still stays on mas y menos despite saying you're a strong lynch candidate which is kinda alarming for me.
VOTE: xyzzy
Care to explain why rb is a strong lynch candidate? Make it detailed.
And I'm sorry for voting you, rb because I just don't like what you're doing rn. Explain it would get me replaced but Imma trust you now. And also, I did a xyzzy iso so I don't quite sheep you.
You move of a vote that's allegedly based off of a strong meta reason to vote someone based off of 1 thing you don't like. And it's not even actually scummy. You make it seem like people can't have multiple scum reads. What's wrong with wanting someone lynched and thinking someone else is scummy enough to deserve a lynch as well?
You said that and then didn't reply at all when you actually got an answer. You don't even need to vote someone to get them to answer a question. Those last 2 posts (I guess they're technically 1 post) felt overly dramatic and like you were trying way to hard to justify your vote. What's even more ridiculous is that you started acting serious about this and then immediately moved back to the mas wagon in your next post. So you voted one scum read and then voted his scum read. Then you moved off that wagon and voted for that scum read's scum read. You're all over the place...
In post 214, rb wrote:Key: are you okay with Mas lynch?
I'm okay with lynching Mas. I gotta say i kinda agree with what Comparing Realities say. Since the early game, I really suspect him though and my gut feeling says he's scum. I can't read him. Well, my read is like he's too scummy to be town.
And I believe when CR made a wall post that basically 50% of it is all about Mas, Mas voted CR which struck me. And since xyzzy doesn't want to answer my question, She can be lynched D3 and we'll win. But rn, Mas is a good lynch for D1.
I know, I'm putting Mas at L-1 but we need things moving. VOTE: Mas Y Menos
You've scum read mas this whole time yet barely said anything about him? Seems legit... And then you go on to imply that if someone makes a post about you and you vote them back it can only be OMGUS and that mad must be scum because of this. Oh, xyzzy didn't answer the question? Then it makes even less sense for you to not pressure her for an answer. And I don't know how you can come to the conclusion that not answering a question = scum. I notice that you said "If we lynch xyzzy day 3 we'll win". That leads me to believe you're saying we'll mislynch on the first 2 days. If you believe that strongly that X is scum why wouldn't you leave your vote on her and keep pushing for her lynch?
In post 189, keyenpeydee wrote:Care to explain why rb is a strong lynch candidate? Make it detailed.
sorry for missing this question earlier
I don't feel as strongly about rb now, because I think the explanation given for the whole skimming wall posts thing was reasonable (and I'll be the first to admit that I completely missed post 108). rb hasn't done anything that really screams "town" to me but also doesn't seem so much like scum now.
this isn't related to the actual game, but rb, you don't have anything listed under the "pronoun" section of your account profile--what do you prefer?
In post 189, keyenpeydee wrote:Care to explain why rb is a strong lynch candidate? Make it detailed.
sorry for missing this question earlier
I don't feel as strongly about rb now, because I think the explanation given for the whole skimming wall posts thing was reasonable (and I'll be the first to admit that I completely missed post 108). rb hasn't done anything that really screams "town" to me but also doesn't seem so much like scum now.
this isn't related to the actual game, but rb, you don't have anything listed under the "pronoun" section of your account profile--what do you prefer?
You finally got your answer, Key. Thoughts?
She still feels scummy.
She said rb is a strong lynch candidate and later says, "I don't feel as strongly about rb now.. etc etc" which is kinda alarming.
I've been going back and forth with Mas y Menos because they don't like they're serious which on my read is too scummy to be scum.
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Post #346 (isolation #40) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:33 am
Postby BlackStar »
Looking back at this posts again...
In post 336, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually, I have an idea where to go. VOTE: xyzzy
Multiple people have connected you to key. What do you have to say about that?
It looks like you only moved your vote because you saw this post and thought that maybe this wagon would gain some traction since the key wagon has stalled.
In post 326, xyzzy wrote:I've read over keyenpeydee's ISO a couple times and this feels more like a townie who is at times playing poorly then scum to me
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Post #348 (isolation #42) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:35 am
Postby BlackStar »
It's weird that you had your vote on X for ages now and didn't try to push it at all until a couple of people started talking about him again. I mean, you were at L-1. Why didn't you fight hard to get him lynched? I just think the timing of that post was grimy as hell
In post 348, BlackStar wrote:It's weird that you had your vote on X for ages now and didn't try to push it at all until a couple of people started talking about him again. I mean, you were at L-1. Why didn't you fight hard to get him lynched? I just think the timing of that post was grimy as hell
I don't want to push it because I want everybody to know it.
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Post #388 (isolation #47) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:46 am
Postby BlackStar »
I scumread xyzzy because he placed a vote down early on and hasn't moved it, pushed hard for the lynch of that vote or done any scum hunting at all really. He's basically just here floating around.
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Post #410 (isolation #51) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:56 pm
Postby BlackStar »
@Alchemist
There was nothing dodgy about it. In fact, you even said that my reasoning was understandable. Its kind of interesting that you voted me because I just came to the conclusion that the most likely scum team is you and Gamma.
In post 283, Gamma Emerald wrote:Reads:
Town: CR, rb
Null: BTD6, BlackStar, Mas
Scum: key, xyzzy, Alchemist
Key isn't at the bottom of his list, Achemist is. So if Alchemist is his strongest scum read, why didn't he vote for him? In fact he never even explained that read at all.
In post 332, Gamma Emerald wrote:I still think key is scum, but I think my vote is best applied elsewhere. UNVOTE:
And then we have this god awful post. "I scum read someone who is at L-1, but I'm going to hop off their wagon." It still makes absolutely no sense to me and I don't know why we let him get away with this.
In post 336, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually, I have an idea where to go. VOTE: xyzzy
Multiple people have connected you to key. What do you have to say about that?
He's still not voting for his top scum read, Alchemist. And Xyzzy was was close to the bottom of his list before. That means that theoretically, he should've had some reasons for having xyzzy near the bottom of his list. If he was already scum reading xyzzy before then why does he act like he's only voting him because other people have connected him to Key? Better yet, why doesn't he just go back to voting for Key?
So yeah, the only reason I can see for Gamma having alchemist at the bottom of his reads list and never voting for or talking about him is that they're scum buddies together
There was nothing dodgy about it. In fact, you even said that my reasoning was understandable. Its kind of interesting that you voted me because I just came to the conclusion that the most likely scum team is you and Gamma.
VOTE: Gamma
Yes, but then 390 made my skin crawl when it happened, and then the two posts after that were lackluster or void of explanation, and all that together is what seems so dodgy.
I don't see how that could make your skin crawl lol