Micro 655: Forest Fire - Endgame

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Honestly I'm pretty terrible. Going through love/emotional withdrawals due to breakup. Basically told her to break up with me as a friend to friend because I was neglecting her. I have a crippling video game addiction that I keep saying I'll quit every day and never do, instead wasting all my time playing games instead of creating work. I'm wholly unfulfilled with my life at the moment, but realistically I have a home and support so it could be a lot worse.

jester is a legit good vote btw

Ill be your support baby
VOTE: BBMolla

Jesus Christ dude

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Let me know when you guys are done having your fun

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VOTE: the jester

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Hi tier <3

Why do you think fire is scummy?

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Is molla a srs vote?

No it's not

It better not be with only 3 pages and nothing vote worthy yet
I'll power lynch any of you.

I think there's plenty of noteworthy stuff already.
Why would you want to power lynch people who try to create wagons? Is your mindset being a sheep with no intention to try to solve the game yourself?

Does anyone see the issue I'm seeing with this?

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I'd honestly rather lynch town 12 pages in then scum 3 pages in

Would you want us to lynch town 12 pages in than scum on a current page this game?

hm....I'd say no.
More interactions thank you

I feel like I'm misinterpreting this post but I can see any other meaning than a blatant contradiction

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@flub: because fire is playing the good townie who will help us out of RVS and he wants everyone to know he is doing so.

Me wanted us to get out of RVS is a non tell.
It's not a secret I hate RVS.

Better question here is, do you actually believe what your saying or you trying to look busy?

Tier's read looks a lot better than the one you loaded in your question

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@flub: because fire is playing the good townie who will help us out of RVS and he wants everyone to know he is doing so.

Me wanted us to get out of RVS is a non tell.
It's not a secret I hate RVS.

Better question here is, do you actually believe what your saying or you trying to look busy?

Tier's read looks a lot better than the one you loaded in your question

Is that a genuine read?

Genuine is an all encompassing term that has to be backed up with specific points. Pointing to individual things and asking if they're genuine is meaningless

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Is molla a srs vote?

No it's not

It better not be with only 3 pages and nothing vote worthy yet
I'll power lynch any of you.

I think there's plenty of noteworthy stuff already.
Why would you want to power lynch people who try to create wagons? Is your mindset being a sheep with no intention to try to solve the game yourself?

Does anyone see the issue I'm seeing with this?

Hey jester, why don't you have a serious vote if there's plenty of noteworthy stuff in the game?

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My bad

VOTE: fire assassin

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Still waiting for this to get 12 pages before I start scum hunting.

If we all did this the game would go nowhere. What makes you special?

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I'm starting to think my issue with Maria also is more playstyle based rather than caused by her actual scumminess so I'm gonna take a step back and decide on her when I see more content.

VOTE: Flubber

Feel like his scumhunting's only superficial and isn't really analysing the game. Usually happens when somebody already knows other people's alignments. Also I strongly dislike his jump on the Fire wagon (wanted Molla to help me judge it but he refused to comply, bummer).

Edit: ninja'd

I think Fire's pretty likely to be scum this game, his town meta is different, at least as experienced by me. But we gotta keep in mind this is an alt account. I don't wanna jump on his wagon just yet.

I'm not sure what an alt account has to do with anything

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I am back. So far biggest scum read right now is Maria for a few posts but I am hesitant to say that is strong due to my concerns over her style being very situational as I have seen from here.

Tier pointing at trying to move things out of RVS and call it scummy is straight lie. It has however moved us out of RVS.
That being said my vote on BBMolla is wasted:

VOTE: Tiershift

I dont understand why you aren't voting for your biggest scum read here

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@Tier @Flubber you don't need a gimmick to change the little things in your playstyle

I don't really want to shit post on here.
Not the purpose of this account.

I intend to take this into consideration, you do as you want

So he has even less to hide behind when he exhibits scum tells

I would like you to elaborate on how you are factoring this in

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Fire isn't playing with a gimmick I don't see how being an alt changes anything


Reuben's earlier stuff about me is shitty he's also scum and a good lynch

I don't play gimmicks, it's a very different play style.
I don't agree with people using my other account as basis to read me.

Fire if I was scum I'd be running circles around you and you know it.

Okay this is what I was looking for.
Maria is town. The level of ego is a town tell.

This is the exact kind of "shallow" scum hunting your other account is

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famous for

I put "shallow" in quotes because I don't like its implications of poor play, but I can't think of another word for it right now.

This kind of controversial play is expected from your main so I'm not sure why you would employ it here.

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Can you all please notice that jester doesn't mean a damn thing they're saying

Ehhhhhhhh there was like one or two posts that made me feel this way but I'm not convinced

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212 and 213 are gross

And then going "but yeah think about the wifom" is even worse

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I've been sick for the last few days so prodge and I might get back to this

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fucking ew

pot kettle zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Fire why are you whiteknighting me so hard?
As to Reuben, his last post seems very similar to what I did in my very first mafia game where I played as scum and kept on making these elaborate teories made out of thin air. Like dunno maybe his intent is right but this is a pretty bad way to express it.
@Reuben could you link me your scum games?

Why do you expect Reuben to play like you as scum?

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I don't think fire assassin is scum here at all. Yet there are two people staying on the wagon no matter what without evolving reads, namely vifam and flub.

I think I want to lynch flub. He doesn't even talk about FA in his latter posts anymore, just letting his vote stay where there is the biggest chance of a lynch. He doesn't really seem to feel FA is scum.
VOTE: flub

Join this wagon, for glory!

With the exception of 221 and 220, my last posts before being sick were all on fire. So this is objectively wrong.

And on top of it you just got the counterwagon chugging along

Ya know, the one whose lack of existence was being called a town tell for fire anyway

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if you have concerns about my posts break them down and say how the interactions are shit rather than say bringing them up are.

pre-flip associations are a valid way of analyzing a game. why? because if i wasn't trying to push the game along, i would have voted fire in post #145. at the time that was an awful idea and of course i'm going to prod people like vifam esp. after the "omg i PR read you!!!" post.

Because it's all empty theories with no real meat to them, a scum flip from Fire doesn't do anything to convince town I'm a PR because single scum would never claim PR in that situation in the first place. Your only other points about me is some stuff about me cockblocking and that still doesn't make sense.

But yeah ruben's bad play doesn't look scummy to me

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Oops I misread vifam

I just wanted more out of flub but this wagon is sure picking up steam.

Anyone up for wagoning maria?

Yeah running up my wagon then wanting to disband it seems really weird, but I know I'm town so I can't really see scum motivation for it

What are you doing

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Yeah I would like to know what about my wagon changed your reads and how

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And yes fire is still scum

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Ruben im liking vifams case on you more now

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I might have to prodge until the weekend

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VOTE: BBmolla

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VOTE: jester

I'm concerned about tier making a really solid case on jester and then voting for someone else for less than stellar reasons, but there's nobody left to bus so I can't really call it scum motivated.

My molla vote is just me being really busy irl and only half paying attention to the game.

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Tier, what do you think of 428?

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I really don't know who is scum atm

sheep your own read dammit

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I don't understand the Jester wagon sorry, I haven't reread the game but I don't think him being indecisive about Fire makes him scum

The idea is that fire was playing a bad scum game and jester didn't know how to play into that without getting him lynched

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if we were to pause the game right now and do a show of hands to pick out who has the worst position right now, i'm sure BB would win out. that's why low effort scum!BB is guaranteed loss BB. he's stopped halfway on everything when the only way out was to go all in.

This could be scum choking

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3. It doesn't look like there was communication between them outside the game thread. Even if you take a look at the very beginning at that stuff of Molla sharing his life story: if he was scum, he prolly would've just shared this with Fire in a pt. And it looked like Fire was trying to pocket him by looking compassionate.

I was re reading 399 to better follow Reubens most recent post and noticed that this relies on the assumption that scum had daychat or d0 chat

Daychat I know is not standard, but d0 chat tends to be mod to mod

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That's because I don't work retail anymore

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I don't like his vote on me while throwing shade on Molla after admitting his previous vote on him was bullshit.

You can make a bullshit vote on scum tho

Broken clocks etc etc

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Jester, why are you dismissing Ruben as ego driven?

His theories might be insane, but not ego driven.

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Him acting like I'm conf scum is

Do you think his mindset's town or scum like?

Town

I spoke in absolutes all the time and it was never from arrogance

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Molla I'm not seeing what you are seeing

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I'm starting to think tier is intentionally wasting time

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Yeah but rocket science isn't worthless

"bad" is

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Sometimes you can just open up a game and know you've lost

This feels like one of those games

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This setup is shit because it promotes bussing and getting away with it easily

Fuck not having solid interactions

I'll go over the entire game soon

I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion

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Are you replacing my slot? I don't see a prod or replacement post from you in thread. I should have declared vla for the holiday weekend

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I'M CLEAR YOU ASS

what

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i want to iso roark i will have to do it later

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Catching up now

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I'm still not convinced bb is town

Are we at the point of risking quick hammers yet?

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VOTE: BBmolla

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It looks like scum coasting to me

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Yep I forgot this game existed

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We are now at the point where this game is a coin toss.

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At best

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Howard I voted for jester?

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Flubs last posts were somewhat bad, about the coin toss and seemingly forced post about him forgetting the game

Between my prod dodge and the post before it how many reads changed or even improved?

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do you believe we don't have any mislynches remaining?

I have no clue nor do I think that's relevant to what I said

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Then It must have been apathy