If you abbreviate his name, it will come out as "SIR C" which sounds like "CERSEI", and we all know Cersei is evil.
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But still the flavor of the game is GoT, and it has got to have some impact on the alignment of each character. The Lannisters seem to be the hostile ones, at least in this episode, it's just fair to think that they would be scum. Saying that they aren't necessarily evil makes it look like you are planting an excuse to claim as town when a rolecop investigates you and finds out that you're a Lannister(assuming there's a role cop).-
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Can you at least enlighten us why you think Wisdom is town? Cause this post makes you look like a scum who's trying to associate himself with a town.In post 58, GuiltyLion wrote:also I'm gonna say Wisdom town-
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Yeah, because I questioned someone who is townreading you.In post 63, Wisdom wrote:i dont like kraeg so far-
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Yeah I agree. I also watch GoT, and everyone seems to be on the same level. Unlike in other series or movies, it's not really clear who's the baddie in the show. Everyone has their own interest. But for the purpose of the game, we have to make assumptions or conjectures as to which characters would likely be given a scum alignment because there should be clearly a baddie in a mafia game.In post 66, KuroiXHF wrote:
No. I talked about it because I didn't see Kraeg's vote as a real one. He seemed to be obviously joking, but I pointed out something pointed out by GRRM (George R. R. Martin) in an interview, where he said no one is 100% good or 100% evil.In post 55, shaddowez wrote:Widsom- Good info.
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I'm saying "this makes it look like you're scum" because I'm trying to be objective. Saying "this makes me think you're scum" is subjective, and usually based on gut feeling and it's very easy for anyone to say what makes them think as scum.In post 85, Expedience wrote:VOTE: Kraeg
- saying "this makes it look like you're scum" as opposed to "this makes me think you're scum" x2
- the arguments he uses I completely disagree with and find reachy
- vague shade net
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- possible that he knows lannisters are scum flavor
You probably find it awkward because we're talking about the characters of the scum here, and it would be awkward for scum to read about people talking about them. I have my own reasoning why I think the lannisters are scum flavor, I didn't mentioned it out of the blue. Even if I knew beforehand that Lannisters are scum flavor, it's actually good for the town for me to be saying it, at least the town has an info they can use once people starts knowing each other's character. And why the hell would you even think that someone who thinks that lannisters are scum flavor is a scum? That doesn't make any sense. Seems like you just threw different negative comments just to paint me badly but not to justify why I am scum. Your reasoning for voting me is scummy.
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For someone who said he's gonna try his best to play this game, you're playing this very badly. It's more than a day since you last posted, and the first time you came in here, you just left one post and walked out of the game. Didn't even try to engage in any convo. I'm not gonna be surprised if you flip as scum.In post 28, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm gonna try my best to play this game.
It's my only one.
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I'm not really sure if I always get scumread. Sometimes people just scumread a certain player because that player opposed someone who is townreading them, or they simply just disagree with his ideas, and not really because they think that person is scum.In post 90, Wisdom wrote:Kraeg do you usually get scumread as town?-
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I'm not saying that you are scumreading me for those reasons that's why I said it in third person. You are free to defend your reads.In post 98, Wisdom wrote:
this response feels manipulatingIn post 92, Kraeg wrote:
I'm not really sure if I always get scumread. Sometimes people just scumread a certain player because that player opposed someone who is townreading them, or they simply just disagree with his ideas, and not really because they think that person is scum.In post 90, Wisdom wrote:Kraeg do you usually get scumread as town?
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I have no one in particular in mind who I think is a scum in my wagon. I'm just saying that I won't be surprised if at least one of the people in my wagon flips scum considering that it appears that I'm becoming a lynchbait here, and how convenient it is to point fingers at me due to the lack of people discussing and pointing fingers.-
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That's actually the problem, there's not many people posting so there's almost nothing to engage with. But I hope that you remember that I was trying to create discussion when I talked about the flavor. And I'm not complaining about the lack of discussion, I was just rationalizing why it would be convenient for people to scumread me. If you look at the previous posts, it's as if I'm the only one trying to stir the game until people started scumreading me. And that's very convenient for the scum, let someone do the talking, then jump on that person and scumread him.In post 119, shaddowez wrote:Kraeg- You're at L-2 on page 5. Why are you saying you're lynch bait? I realize there's not many people posting, but why aren't you directly trying to engage with anyone instead of just complaining about the lack of discussion?
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No, this is already the third time you came in here promising to us that you'll post soon, and yet didn't. I'm already starting to think that this your way of "trying your best to play the game" - by promising to post soon which results into you not being able to give anything substantial in the game. There really isn't that many posts to read. You could have at least given us your general thoughts about the game or about some people here instead of just making a promise to post. I would be more inclined to think that his kind of play is a scum play.
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I'll never ask. At least that will save you time.In post 156, Wisdom wrote:dont tell me i have to explain why-
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Actually, I want to thank whoever asked me why I didn't consider claiming when I was at L-1. This just strengthens my belief that there's a scum on my wagon.
Here's why: If you remember earlier in the game, my joke vote ignited a discussion about the flavor, to which I engaged with. I have insisted that the flavor has something to do with the alignment. I have also stated my belief that the Lannisters would probably be the ones be given the scum alignment, and that insisting that they aren't or that the flavor does not have any relation to the alignment would seem like planting an excuse to refute a flavor cop investigation, assuming that there's a flavor cop.
Now, I think that the scum took this as me hinting that I am a flavor cop. So they may have painted me as a scum to try and get me to roleclaim, or maybe to lynch a town PR, if it ever comes to the point. I really think that there's a scum on my wagon because they would be motivated to lynch me this early or at least to make me roleclaim.-
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Probably because of your post. The magic phrase is "I could hammer you".
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Thanks. You'll be having a long break.In post 173, Wisdom wrote:if you end up being town coming up with this contrived bullshit im taking a break until the playerbase changes up-
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Even if he doesn't have time for the game, it wouldn't really be difficult to read 2-7 pages of posts, with majority of the posts containing only one or two sentences. It's not like a lot has been happening since the game started. He could have at least left us a brief post about his thoughts instead of just a prod-dodge.-
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The guy who's very eager to see me get lynched suddenly unvotes.
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You're taking this out of context. I'm only talking about this particular case in this particular game.In post 181, Wisdom wrote:bullshit
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That's for cakez. I'm referring to his "If Kraeg is town, mollie is scum, vice-versa" thing.In post 239, pirate mollie wrote:
what does this even meanIn post 234, Kraeg wrote:Well, goodluck scumreading mollie after I flip town.-
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This is just a quick post. I don't have a lot of time right now.
@mollie. I dont think cakez is saying that conmanmick played in my game. He's saying it's another game, not necessarily the one I modded. Although I don't quite understand how he got confused with me and conmanmick. How do you get confused about someone who modded a game you played and someone whom you have played with.-
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I'm hesitant to give BBT a pass. From the very start of the game he has promised that he will play this the best way he can, but what we got were a series of promises to engage in the game at a later date which were never fulfilled. I don't think I can townread or at least null read someone who has repeatedly promised to do something and yet repeatedly failed to do so.-
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shadow, You saying that I'm not giving much thought or reasoning with my vote when in fact, I did, is scummy. I am not pushing a BBT merely on his lack of content but also with lies he has repeatedly brought into this game. Last D1, he kept on promising to post content on his next post and even promised to replaced out if he wont, and yet we didn't see this happen. His push on Kuroi is not also convincing enough, and there isn't really that much reasoning provided to say that Kuroi is scum based on what happened between them last night.
I'm not saying that a neighbourizer is an auto-town role. Yes it can be a scum role but right now I just dont see any reason why Kuroi could be scum based on his posts. I do not want to scumread him merely because he's a neighbourizer because the role can either be town or scum. We also need to look into his posts and what happened between them during the night.-
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You don't think you'll get a lynch on BBT? He was at L-1 before you unvoted. Shaddow has expressed his intent to lynch BBT. He's close to getting lynched.In post 556, KuroiXHF wrote:I don't think I'll get a lynch on BBT, but I do think Shaddow is scum. He has also been quiet.
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Given the circumstances of shaddowez lynch, I do not think that his scum partner bus'd him. It's unlikely. It's not like the case against shaddow was so compelling that it would merit him being bus'd by his scum partner. Plus BBT and I were being scumread, it would have been very easy to deflect the votes on shaddow by pointing finger at either of us.
It's just down to PoE. mollie and GL was not on the wagon last day. One of them is the last scum. I'm going to bet that it's GL. It's consistent with the theory that shaddow's scum partner wouldn't have bus'd him. GL thought that there wouldn't be a quickhammer unless BBT will self-lynch and last day when everyone seem to be against shaddow, he townread shaddow.
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Can you please not talk to me like I don't even understand a thing?
Yeah I know you declared your intent to hammer shaddz but it never happened and my reasoning is based on the theory that the scum would have bus'd his scum partner last day. An intent does not suffice so by PoE, I'll still consider you.
And yeah, I know you also called the flavor discussion useless but you were on the shaddz wagon which is why I cannot use that against you.
Seriously this game isnt about finding the best player in this site to criticize people how they're playing. This game is all about survival, and we're not really gonna go anywhere if you'll just criticize how bad or shallow everyone is.
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