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Post Post #24 (isolation #0) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:54 am

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In post 18, BBmolla wrote:Honestly I'm pretty terrible. Going through love/emotional withdrawals due to breakup. Basically told her to break up with me as a friend to friend because I was neglecting her. I have a crippling video game addiction that I keep saying I'll quit every day and never do, instead wasting all my time playing games instead of creating work. I'm wholly unfulfilled with my life at the moment, but realistically I have a home and support so it could be a lot worse.

jester is a legit good vote btw
Ill be your support baby
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Post Post #25 (isolation #1) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:57 am

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All jokes aside that's pretty depressing man you'll get through it though
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Post Post #27 (isolation #2) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:39 am

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Yeah
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Post Post #29 (isolation #3) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:43 am

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Is this a fucking weed joke
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Post Post #31 (isolation #4) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:49 am

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Good joke I guess
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Post Post #38 (isolation #5) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:22 pm

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In post 35, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 24, Vifam wrote:
In post 18, BBmolla wrote:Honestly I'm pretty terrible. Going through love/emotional withdrawals due to breakup. Basically told her to break up with me as a friend to friend because I was neglecting her. I have a crippling video game addiction that I keep saying I'll quit every day and never do, instead wasting all my time playing games instead of creating work. I'm wholly unfulfilled with my life at the moment, but realistically I have a home and support so it could be a lot worse.

jester is a legit good vote btw
Ill be your support baby
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Jesus Christ dude
Chill I showed sympathy In the next post I'm not that much of a dick
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Post Post #42 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:21 pm

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In post 40, Fire Assassin wrote:Okay now, lets do serious wagon:
VOTE: BBMolla

Lets kick us out of RVS.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #7) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:30 pm

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In post 43, Fire Assassin wrote:Do you not know what serious is?
Like do I actually have to vote for who I think is scum now cuz I still don't know and I dont wanna be pressured
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Post Post #47 (isolation #8) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:38 pm

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Unless you know then tell me Im down 4 anything
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Post Post #82 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:01 am

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In post 81, TierShift wrote:@flub: because fire is playing the good townie who will help us out of RVS and he wants everyone to know he is doing so.
I could roll with this

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Post Post #83 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:02 am

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Damm I meant

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Post Post #85 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:42 am

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In post 84, BBmolla wrote:
In post 69, Fire Assassin wrote:So what's your thoughts?
I'm still good with a jester lynch
Why
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Post Post #86 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:48 am

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He gave us that palm tree joke we have to put that into consideration
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Post Post #101 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:37 pm

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No idea what the Maria argument is about we should prob do something about tryhardscum Fireassasin tho
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Post Post #102 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:38 pm

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BBMolla might actually be scum here too
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Post Post #103 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:41 pm

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In post 92, SmoothBlue wrote:
In post 70, The_Jester wrote:
In post 66, MariaR wrote:It better not be with only 3 pages and nothing vote worthy yet
I'll power lynch any of you.
I think there's plenty of noteworthy stuff already.
Why would you want to power lynch people who try to create wagons? Is your mindset being a sheep with no intention to try to solve the game yourself?
Is mine. Yes. My playstyle is I take other people opinions and rip them apart. Then I sheep the most logical. I will pick apart statement and form maybe 1 or 2 conclusions myself this game.

Is that bad?
Im more of a go with the flow kinda player, direct confrontation is annoying Id rather people just not lynch who I dont think is scum
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Post Post #106 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:58 pm

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Anythings possible
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Post Post #107 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:02 pm

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So far tho the only people I think are genuinely scumhunting and looking sort of town are Tier and Jester tho, everyone else I dont really care for
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Post Post #109 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:08 pm

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/kanyeshrug
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Post Post #111 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:22 pm

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I thought #107 was kind of me giving my townreads
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Post Post #113 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:39 pm

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She's angry over some argument I dont understand, I don't really care for her tho, mitebscum I guess.
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Post Post #115 (isolation #21) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:13 pm

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What do you wanna talk about
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Post Post #118 (isolation #22) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:19 pm

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Me personally Im a gangster so id just let everyone live and set it all ablaze at once
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Post Post #140 (isolation #23) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:10 pm

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In post 120, The_Jester wrote:You could say that about everyone. What makes you suspicious of him? Lack of content expected from a seasoned player or refusing to justify his vote or something else?
It's not a strong read tbh, mostly because he's leading the shittiest wagon imo so far
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Post Post #157 (isolation #24) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:20 am

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In post 156, ReubenWasFine wrote:i'm upset at vifam because it was a shit play. if he thinks you're town, the correct thing to do is to let bbmolla prod you until he's satisfied.
I don't think it's bad play to deter one wagon that you townread early when you think you've found scum early in another wagon.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:36 am

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In post 152, MariaR wrote:The fact NO ONE i s defending fire and there are no counter wagons coming up this just SCREAMS ml the more I look at it
Not really, screams is kind of an exaggeration.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:01 pm

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In post 160, ReubenWasFine wrote:and yet here i am with intent on fire assassin and a townread on jester and when i look at your posts 83-86 it looks scummy.
All I did in those posts was ask BB a question about a read and make a joke
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Post Post #163 (isolation #27) » Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:02 pm

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In post 161, The_Jester wrote:Dunno, I don't have problems with Vifam apart from his trying-to-be-ballsy-yet-retracting-moments-later-to-avoid-heat entrance. Could be insecure scum but I may be reading too much into it.
Townleaning on Reuben atm.
Im not being ballsy lmfao what about my play is ballsy.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:08 pm

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What Flubber said ^^^
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Post Post #177 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:24 pm

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Fire isn't playing with a gimmick I don't see how being an alt changes anything


Reuben's earlier stuff about me is shitty he's also scum and a good lynch
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Post Post #189 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:03 am

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In post 181, The_Jester wrote:
In post 177, Vifam wrote:

Reuben's earlier stuff about me is shitty he's also scum and a good lynch
Ok so that's it? The scumteam's Fire and Reuben, the first two people who stood out? Seems a bit too easy, doesn't it?
Yeah GG

Im still not fond of FA's play and I dont know why the wagon on him is slowing down, he hasn't really been town and his vote on Tier was pretty bad. Plus he went from Maria being his topscumread like a page ago and now all of a sudden he's townreading her on this page. Because of ego or something

Reuben's post about me cockblocking doesn't make sense cuz I never stopped BB from doing anything, I just asked a question. Then he goes on to say that a joke post I made was out of self-consciousness or something, he's completely over exaggerated those posts and it's scummy.



The best lynches at the moment imo are Fire, Reuben, and BB
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Post Post #191 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:13 am

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His play so far feels off, he's still sitting on your wagon while caping for Fire but not really making an effort on either end. That could just be laziness on his part tho I guess.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:18 am

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Join the FA wagon then please
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Post Post #195 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:53 am

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Also never call me insecure again I am confident and beautiful
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Post Post #201 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:10 am

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In post 198, BBmolla wrote:Vifam I'm literally fighting the fire lynch what game are you reading
Im not feeling it
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Post Post #209 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:41 am

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In post 205, BBmolla wrote:Gut town on vifam btw

Me, Vifam, Maria now just lynch everyone else and we win gg
Why not fire then
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Post Post #217 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:55 pm

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In post 210, BBmolla wrote:
In post 209, Vifam wrote:
In post 205, BBmolla wrote:Gut town on vifam btw

Me, Vifam, Maria now just lynch everyone else and we win gg
Why not fire then
first wagon is scum maybe 10% of the time.
idk that might be true for larger games but there's like 12 of us
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Post Post #222 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:11 pm

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In post 214, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 189, Vifam wrote:Im still not fond of FA's play and I dont know why the wagon on him is slowing down, he hasn't really been town and his vote on Tier was pretty bad. Plus he went from Maria being his topscumread like a page ago and now all of a sudden he's townreading her on this page. Because of ego or something

Reuben's post about me cockblocking doesn't make sense cuz I never stopped BB from doing anything, I just asked a question. Then he goes on to say that a joke post I made was out of self-consciousness or something, he's completely over exaggerated those posts and it's scummy.



The best lynches at the moment imo are Fire, Reuben, and BB
So your not fond of a playstyle?
My reads are very versatile right now because this is still sub 10 pages and day 1. So I am wondering why you think its bad for my reads to suddenly change. And my reasoning with Maria was to wait for something that is an actual tell from her before I pushed it more.
Maria was your top scumread, I dont understand why you needed more from her when she already high on your radar
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Post Post #228 (isolation #38) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:16 pm

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"long awaited"
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Post Post #234 (isolation #39) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:50 pm

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In post 231, ReubenWasFine wrote:
as for vifam, having your partner 'expose' you as PR can't really hurt. if fire flips scum, we may have simply went along with "wow i guess vifam is a PR'.
I don't understand this
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Post Post #235 (isolation #40) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:52 pm

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Why would Fire flipping scum make anyone think I'm a PR?
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Post Post #238 (isolation #41) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:54 pm

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But why would that make anyone automatically assume I'm a PR
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Post Post #242 (isolation #42) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:01 pm

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In post 239, ReubenWasFine wrote:as in my earlier point about that exchange it seemed like fire slipped PR read of you because he referenced it from a post he already townread you from.
How does this answer my question
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Post Post #245 (isolation #43) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:12 pm

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ReubenWasFine wrote:if you can't comprehend why i thought it was scummy after i've sounded it out (#156) :roll: then there's a disconnect with reality in that post (#177/#189).
I understand it I just think it's dumb
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Post Post #247 (isolation #44) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:19 pm

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I still don't really get what you're saying walk me through this like I'm a toddler
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Post Post #249 (isolation #45) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:32 pm

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I mean I guess

It could easily just be a signal to his partner if he felt he might get lynched today tho.

Plus scum aren't going to claim PR in this setup if one of them is gone before N1. That's pretty much putting them in a shitty situation since it narrows down the lynches for town
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Post Post #257 (isolation #46) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:47 am

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I can't believe people are calling my non serious joke posts awkward I'm kinda pissed
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Post Post #258 (isolation #47) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:51 am

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I'm not even an awkward guy I'm very social and charismatic and everyone loves me
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Post Post #260 (isolation #48) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:15 am

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You're just 2 serious 4 me

Why is they're a Flubber counterwagon now
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Post Post #261 (isolation #49) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:26 am

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It's iike no one seems to think Fire is actually town but no one wants to offer him up for a lynch and I don't get it
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Post Post #263 (isolation #50) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:04 am

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VOTE: Reubenwasfine
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Post Post #266 (isolation #51) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:35 am

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Nah BB Just doesn't wanna lynch him today cuz 1st wagon is scum 10% of the time
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Post Post #267 (isolation #52) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:36 am

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Source: wikipedia
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Post Post #269 (isolation #53) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:37 am

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In post 205, BBmolla wrote:Gut town on vifam btw

Me, Vifam, Maria now just lynch everyone else and we win gg
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Post Post #272 (isolation #54) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:49 am

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Anyway If not Fire I'd prefer to get Reuben


So far Reuben's points have mostly been about aligning people together and that's pretty much useless content without a flip. And when he does go into individual scumminess he's only brought up things that have more to do with general playstyle, atleast in regards to me. Saying how I posted "late" and shit like that.
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Post Post #274 (isolation #55) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:13 am

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That and the fact that your play started out forced, and still sort of feels forced

The Maria thing still doesn't make sense to me because if you had her as your top scumread at first you would have felt you had enough info, saying that you were pushing on her so she could towntell would only make sense if you had her as null in the first place
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Post Post #276 (isolation #56) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:28 am

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Agree with what
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Post Post #278 (isolation #57) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:19 am

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I see what you mean but it didn't really seem like he was fishing for reactions there
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Post Post #283 (isolation #58) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:42 pm

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You guys are acting like she promised some great speech where she carefully examines everyone's play and catches all the scum in one post
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Post Post #285 (isolation #59) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:53 pm

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The vote itself is shitty because I think Jester is town and he's not getting lynched today either way

But you stuck to your word I cant be mad at that
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Post Post #288 (isolation #60) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:09 pm

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In post 286, ReubenWasFine wrote:if you have concerns about my posts break them down and say how the interactions are shit rather than say bringing them up are.

pre-flip associations are a valid way of analyzing a game. why? because if i wasn't trying to push the game along, i would have voted fire in post #145. at the time that was an awful idea and of course i'm going to prod people like vifam esp. after the "omg i PR read you!!!" post.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #61) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:12 pm

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I haven't paid much attention to the stuff you said not involving me but your logic is complete bs, you're attempting to scumhunt by picking apart things that are more or less completely inconsequential
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Post Post #290 (isolation #62) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:32 pm

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In post 287, MariaR wrote:Who said the vote on Jester was because I scumread him?
Wow I sure feel like an idiot for assuming :S
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Post Post #292 (isolation #63) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:00 am

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I could believe the interaction stuff is just overzealous newbtown trying to look into every detail but the BBMolla stuff he brought up is this lol ridiculous and I don't see town actually pushing something like that.

+ Despite all his postings Ruben hasn't really seemed to wanna go any direction with regards to an actual lynch, he's said a good ammountf but has pushed virtually nothing. While also still sitting on an RVS vote on Flubber
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Post Post #293 (isolation #64) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:19 am

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And the fact that Tier said that it was a nice catch earlier is pretty shitty but I can let that slide for now

The Flubber case is super weak tho and I'd prefer we deal with scummier players


Like Reuben or Firee
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Post Post #295 (isolation #65) » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:23 am

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I don't necessarily townread him I just don't feel like he's done anything outwardly scummy or pinged my radar
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Post Post #310 (isolation #66) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:03 am

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In post 302, TierShift wrote:
In post 295, Vifam wrote:I don't necessarily townread him I just don't feel like he's done anything outwardly scummy or pinged my radar
He's been attacking maria without trying to find out her alignment or voting her

He votes fa and just sits on it without any kind of read progression.

He's just not trying to figure out who's town and who's scum.
Where has he attacked Maria
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Post Post #320 (isolation #67) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:29 am

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TierShift wrote:Oops I misread vifam

I just wanted more out of flub but this wagon is sure picking up steam.

Anyone up for wagoning maria?
No
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Post Post #321 (isolation #68) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:29 am

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Follow my lead
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Post Post #331 (isolation #69) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:25 pm

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Flubber is a shitty wagon

I liked Tier's earlier play he's gotten worse but I don't wanna lynch him so can we go back to getting Fire or lynch Reuben
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Post Post #332 (isolation #70) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:29 pm

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In post 327, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 288, Vifam wrote:
In post 286, ReubenWasFine wrote:if you have concerns about my posts break them down and say how the interactions are shit rather than say bringing them up are.

pre-flip associations are a valid way of analyzing a game. why? because if i wasn't trying to push the game along, i would have voted fire in post #145. at the time that was an awful idea and of course i'm going to prod people like vifam esp. after the "omg i PR read you!!!" post.
Because it's all empty theories with no real meat to them, a scum flip from Fire doesn't do anything to convince town I'm a PR because single scum would never claim PR in that situation in the first place. Your only other points about me is some stuff about me cockblocking and that still doesn't make sense.
But yeah ruben's bad play doesn't look scummy to me
It's not just bad play he's not pushing a lynch in any real direction, he's posting but isn't even really doing anything aside from being passive aggressive and walltalking.
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Post Post #333 (isolation #71) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:31 pm

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Like even if you have the excuse of him being newbtown or something it doesn't excuse him not moving his vote since RVS and doing pretty much nothing
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Post Post #339 (isolation #72) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:06 pm

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In post 337, MariaR wrote:UNVOTE:
I really should start scumhunting
I'll do it for you
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Post Post #342 (isolation #73) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:12 pm

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In post 340, MariaR wrote:
In post 339, Vifam wrote:
In post 337, MariaR wrote:UNVOTE:
I really should start scumhunting
I'll do it for you
YAY
Vote Reuben w/ me today and we'll take care of the rest later
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Post Post #357 (isolation #74) » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:25 pm

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Yeah it's making me not want to participate but I don't think it's really the game Im just sad
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Post Post #358 (isolation #75) » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:25 pm

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I still wanna get Reuben
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Post Post #365 (isolation #76) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:28 am

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VOTE: Fire
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Post Post #367 (isolation #77) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:41 am

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Were hitting the deadline and Fire is the only lynch that can get pushed through at this point and everyone said he's scummy atleast once so let's just
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Post Post #369 (isolation #78) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:19 am

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Post Post #372 (isolation #79) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:27 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #373 (isolation #80) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:28 am

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You forgot a person in your list
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Post Post #374 (isolation #81) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:30 am

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Tier looks town the only person on your scumlist id vote atm is BB
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Post Post #388 (isolation #82) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:24 pm

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There are two ff in this setup
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Post Post #390 (isolation #83) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:27 pm

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I meant to put a question marks there ironically


VOTE: Fire
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Post Post #403 (isolation #84) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:49 pm

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I'd lynch BBMolla or Shift

I don't think Reuben would pull the last minute bus in his situation with me screaming for his lynch if he was scum so I'm willing to leave him alone

Flubber's reaction to his wagon D1 makes me believe he's town

Jester hasn't done anything scummy and has looked pretty town throughout, although I don't like how he lambasted FA for his claim before voting but that's the only weird thing he's done

Tier's early D1 seemed town and he was the first to push a wagon on FA, he fell off a little towards the end of the day but based off that Id prefer BB

VOTE: BBMolla
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Post Post #414 (isolation #85) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:52 am

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In post 410, TierShift wrote:
In post 403, Vifam wrote:I don't think Reuben would pull the last minute bus in his situation with me screaming for his lynch if he was scum so I'm willing to leave him alone
You realise that fire was already lynched when reuben voted, right?
Im talking about the vote before fire claimed PR
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Post Post #416 (isolation #86) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:15 am

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My username is Vifam
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Post Post #417 (isolation #87) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:23 am

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I know I should comment on your vote on me but come on man why'd you add the a
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Post Post #421 (isolation #88) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:04 am

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In post 418, HowardRoark wrote:Comments are more than welcome, and not just on my vote.
I unvoted because no one else was claiming PR at the moment aside from Fire, I don't see how that's scummy. We were hitting the deadline and if he was town I would have prefered getting to another lynch as soon as possible and not press him about the claim.


I don't really have a case on BB, he hasn't really been town this game and just about everyone else aside from your slot has done something that felt like it was coming from a townie. He hasn't been active and his most recent vote on you is kind of shitty seeing as you hadn't even posted at the time.

As of now the scum in my mind is between Howard/BB/Tier and Im feeling it's more likely to be BB
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Post Post #422 (isolation #89) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:05 am

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BB's non-activity isn't really a tell in itself tho he just hasn't really towntold at all
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Post Post #425 (isolation #90) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:07 am

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Yeah I'll get right on that boss
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Post Post #426 (isolation #91) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:08 am

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Jester flounderd a bit on his read on Fire iirc he had sort of a strong scumread on him at start but it changed throughout
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Post Post #439 (isolation #92) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:24 pm

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In post 429, HowardRoark wrote:Yes, he claimed, but your unvote didn't come until after the prompting. Then you never made any effort toward anyone else. Once the wagon picked up, you simply set him to L-1 and sat back. Scum constantly does "something that felt like it was coming from a townie" so that doesn't cut it with me. As for TierShift you had a town read 107 and I'm not qickly finding anything that changed that. Your picks are a practically non-existent slot yesterday, low input slot about which you waffle, and someone that you had a town read on. ?!?!?
I explained all of this earlier in my last post


I have stronger townreads on just about everyone else in the game aside from the people you've mentioned. I don't think I've ever waffled on BB or my read on him, I've always had him leaning scum.
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Post Post #440 (isolation #93) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:34 pm

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I don't see how me unvoting after he told me to unvote is scummy, once he gave his reads I was discussing who he thought was scum and I was taking it from there
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Post Post #441 (isolation #94) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:37 pm

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In post 434, TierShift wrote:
In post 418, HowardRoark wrote:@The_Jester: Is it not your style to vote between your two top suspects?

@Vifam: Why BBmolla? I don't recall you really ever making a case; your most recent post certainly doesn't.
VOTE: Vifam (My apologies to all for the occasional and accidental misspellings.)
Comments are more than welcome, and not just on my vote.

@BBmolla: I'm here and will be active. Can we get something a bit more substantial from you?

@Flubberbugget: You've had two or three interactions, but no argument against BBmolla. Help us to understand.

@TierShift: What was the purpose of pointing out the SmoothBlue post and your "not be too quick" comment?

@MariaR: D1 generated enough pages for your vote and we have Fire Assassin's flip. Please share your thoughts.

@ReubenWasFine: Looking forward to your D2 input.
Reading this post makes me think roark is most likely the remaining scum. Calling out to everyone like this is a scum move which I can probably back up.

VOTE: roark

Flub get your head out of your arse btw
That's lame

I don't have much of a read of Roark just yet, he could be scum but I honestly think it's more likely to be BB at this point.
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Post Post #443 (isolation #95) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:51 pm

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That's not even fair you're asking me to make a case I don't wanna do that cut me some slack I'll explain why I think everyone else is more town but Im not gonna do that
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Post Post #448 (isolation #96) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:18 am

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In post 445, HowardRoark wrote:Using your method, what have you done that would put you as a town read?
What method?
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Post Post #452 (isolation #97) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:48 pm

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I don't think Jester is scum here Im really feeling it's BB
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Post Post #461 (isolation #98) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:12 pm

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I'll try and be more detailed later
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Post Post #468 (isolation #99) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:25 pm

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^ not that detailed tho
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Post Post #484 (isolation #100) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:47 pm

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In post 478, ReubenWasFine wrote:did you just claim scum?
Trees can still talk after getting lynched
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Post Post #485 (isolation #101) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:51 pm

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I don't understand the Jester wagon sorry, I haven't reread the game but I don't think him being indecisive about Fire makes him scum
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Post Post #492 (isolation #102) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:38 am

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In post 488, ReubenWasFine wrote:which was my point of the thought experiment. if he was hammered and stumped, who is he going for? he isn't pushing any one and i want him to start now.

instead he dropped a sarcastic comment. looked like a scum slip.
That's a reach
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Post Post #493 (isolation #103) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:43 am

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Im pretty sure it's BB, he was adamant about Fire being town but didn't really make any effort to defend him. He also scumreads Jester for a bit, but after awhile ends up rolling onto Shift for no discernible reason. Now he's on Howard, it just feels like he's putting in low effort as scum at this point, I don't think it's town being lazy like others have said
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Post Post #495 (isolation #104) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:46 am

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Sometimes it really is that easy
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Post Post #503 (isolation #105) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:59 pm

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I don't think forgetting about being stumped is a slip
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Post Post #508 (isolation #106) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:54 pm

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I don't feel comfortable not lynching BB after the way he acted during the FA wagon
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Post Post #509 (isolation #107) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:54 pm

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I don't feel comfortable not lynching BB after the way he acted during the FA wagon
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Post Post #510 (isolation #108) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:56 pm

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If BBMolla is scum like I think I don't gotta reread shit
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Post Post #522 (isolation #109) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:10 am

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I think Reuben's town I don't necessarily agree with what he's saying though
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Post Post #537 (isolation #110) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:26 pm

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Jester is still town to me Im not sold on the case
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Post Post #538 (isolation #111) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:32 pm

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Post Post #539 (isolation #112) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:39 pm

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Nah honestly nvm

BB is the best lynch for today

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Post Post #554 (isolation #113) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:13 pm

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Honestly we can afford the mislynch Im sick of this

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Post Post #555 (isolation #114) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:16 pm

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Wait that wasn't a hammer? Weak
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Post Post #575 (isolation #115) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:05 pm

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Wow I really thought I ended this day
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Post Post #576 (isolation #116) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:05 pm

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At this point Id lynch anyone to get on w/ this
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Post Post #577 (isolation #117) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:07 pm

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We can afford a mislynch im really not worried about shit
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Post Post #583 (isolation #118) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:05 am

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Are you serious
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Post Post #584 (isolation #119) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:06 am

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Weak ass game tbh
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Post Post #594 (isolation #120) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:26 pm

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:(
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Post Post #595 (isolation #121) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:28 pm

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That was @ Flubbernugget


but yeah im checking idk what to do personally
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Post Post #596 (isolation #122) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:34 pm

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checking in*


idk about Howard I don't really get anything scummy from his posts, he seems like an energetic townie that likes to drive discussion from my end he looks town to me


Im not reallly sure BB is scum either at this point tho
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Post Post #600 (isolation #123) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:20 am

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Bussing in this game means the last remaining scum has to play for the long haul it's not really the smart thing to do
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Post Post #601 (isolation #124) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:21 am

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But honestly FA was the scummiest looking player at that point and no one else was going to be lynched, so it's not like you had much of an option in that situation
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Post Post #602 (isolation #125) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:23 am

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I'll look over the FA wagon, but of the people I remember being on it off top I don't see Reuben being scum with Fire, I don't really see it with Flub either
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Post Post #615 (isolation #126) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:50 am

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Reuben and Flub are town

I'm not sure about anyone else
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Post Post #616 (isolation #127) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:51 am

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Maria is cool
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Post Post #620 (isolation #128) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:14 pm

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In post 618, HowardRoark wrote:Nothing has really changed for me regarding Vifam. I gave some thoughts and want to pressure BBmolla for now.
Do you think BB is scum
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Post Post #636 (isolation #129) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:09 pm

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Yeah
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Post Post #637 (isolation #130) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:10 pm

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How manta days do we have to spare
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Post Post #638 (isolation #131) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:14 pm

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VOTE: TierShift
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Post Post #675 (isolation #132) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:24 am

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if this game hits 8 days I'll choke myself
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Post Post #676 (isolation #133) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:44 am

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Still not really sure Howard will flip scum
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Post Post #677 (isolation #134) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:46 am

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I like Tier's replacement tho

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Post Post #678 (isolation #135) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:12 am

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Honestly Id feeel sooooooooooo much more comfortable if we did this


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Post Post #685 (isolation #136) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:45 pm

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VOTE: Howard
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Post Post #701 (isolation #137) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:06 am

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Yeah idk what to tell you guys
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Post Post #702 (isolation #138) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:12 am

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I'm not really certain about anything anymore
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Post Post #703 (isolation #139) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:13 am

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I'm not scum though so it's someone else
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Post Post #704 (isolation #140) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:13 am

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Idk who but it's someone else
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Post Post #725 (isolation #141) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:02 am

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In post 705, ReubenWasFine wrote:
In post 704, Vifam wrote:Idk who but it's someone else
Yesterday you said you felt much better with a bb lynch over howard. If we covered our eyes and pretended the howard lynch didn't happen, wouldn't you be voting bb?

@cloud

With day 1 pr we should assume scum asked the mod if maria could self protect. If we haven't lynched an ignited townie and maria hasn't protected anyone we do not have any more mislynches.
Yeah but now we're potentially at lylo and I'm lost
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Post Post #726 (isolation #142) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:04 am

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But if I had to pick a lynch right now it'd be BB

I'm sure it's not Reuben

That's all I got
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Post Post #727 (isolation #143) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:22 am

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There are parts of me that say BB is a ML but that could just be me second guessing myself because it's the obvious choice

His death before mine tho
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Post Post #728 (isolation #144) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:26 am

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Tier's replacement feels town, Tier's posting could come off as weird sometimes but Cloud makes up for it. Also the point about FA trying to make a counter wagon on Tier is solid too, I didn't notice that before
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Post Post #729 (isolation #145) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:28 am

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BB > Cloud > Flub > Reuben
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Post Post #730 (isolation #146) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:29 am

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Oh wait switch Flub and Cloud around and that's how I feel rn
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Post Post #735 (isolation #147) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:18 am

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I mean I was willing to let Tier get lychee before this guy came
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Post Post #737 (isolation #148) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:19 am

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At this point it's the only thing I feel the most confident in now that we're at this point in the game
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Post Post #740 (isolation #149) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:15 am

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Most of it was laziness
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Post Post #741 (isolation #150) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:16 am

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And being unsure if BB was 100% scum after Jester flipped
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Post Post #753 (isolation #151) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:18 am

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In post 742, The_Jester wrote:How did my flip affect BB's alignment?
After you lynch I skimmed through the game and started battling with the idea of Tier being scum
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Post Post #754 (isolation #152) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:22 am

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I thought it was dumb at first so I put scum bussing out the gate was out the question, I started to consider it more as time went on though because of how BB was playing with lil effort and just the fact that it felt too easy
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Post Post #756 (isolation #153) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:43 am

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Yeah didn't think so
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Post Post #757 (isolation #154) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:44 am

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From my pov if we lynch me we lose if scum targeted right do we can't lynch me so
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Post Post #758 (isolation #155) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:46 am

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VOTE: BBMolla
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Post Post #772 (isolation #156) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:16 am

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This is kind of stupid
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Post Post #774 (isolation #157) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:08 am

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stupid isn't the right word more like directionless
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Post Post #775 (isolation #158) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:09 am

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That's our fault tho
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Post Post #796 (isolation #159) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:06 am

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Post Post #797 (isolation #160) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:06 am

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Maybe I am scum
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Post Post #798 (isolation #161) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:06 am

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Cuz idk
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Post Post #799 (isolation #162) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:09 am

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BB might really be town

I don't think it's Flub tho
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Post Post #802 (isolation #163) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:23 am

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The thing is no one on FA's wagon D1 looks like a viable scumbuddy for FA
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Post Post #803 (isolation #164) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:25 am

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BB wasn't on it but he doesn't feel like surefire scum cuz of his play
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Post Post #821 (isolation #165) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:40 pm

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I'm not interested in lynching Cloud
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Post Post #822 (isolation #166) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:42 pm

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Yeah we have to do this VOTE: BBMolla
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Post Post #823 (isolation #167) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:44 pm

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It's either BB or Flub and Flub reads town so
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Post Post #824 (isolation #168) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:44 pm

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+ he doesn't make sense as a scum partner to FA
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Post Post #856 (isolation #169) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:45 am

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It's not me I don't think it's him
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Post Post #857 (isolation #170) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:55 am

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I forgot prods were a thing
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Post Post #860 (isolation #171) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:01 am

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I don't think it's Flub

I really think it's just bb
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Post Post #910 (isolation #172) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:57 am

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You're prob not gonna win
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Post Post #912 (isolation #173) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:00 am

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We don't have that kind of time

It's me or BB and if we lynch me we're prob losing
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Post Post #914 (isolation #174) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:11 am

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I don't wanna lynch Flub @___@
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Post Post #915 (isolation #175) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:14 am

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I see why ppl have their doubts about BB but there's stronger reason to believe everyone else is town
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Post Post #919 (isolation #176) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:20 am

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In post 916, CloudKicker wrote:@vifam just check bb/fire voting patterns, its screaming non-team and teapot is town, i am town, bb should be town, that leaves you and flub, i initially tred flub for the fire push and whatnot but he also voted really badly in the consecutives days and so on idk
Flub's push on FA didn't feel like bussing to me
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Post Post #924 (isolation #177) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:51 am

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In post 920, CloudKicker wrote:@sonia that dude is defending someones i am trying to add to the lynch pool, its 3hrs to deadline and hes getting voted by clear. How does that even make sens as last mafia getting lynched
cuz I skimmed through the game and came to the conclusion the person least likely to be town here all things considered is BB
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Post Post #936 (isolation #178) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:58 pm

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10 bucks says he assumed he lost the game already
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Post Post #944 (isolation #179) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:00 pm

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I think we'll lose if we lynch flub
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Post Post #946 (isolation #180) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:01 pm

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I don't wanna NL tho I'd rather this end one way or another
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Post Post #953 (isolation #181) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:04 pm

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In post 948, MariaR wrote:I bet 1 of u are scum
Pedit: I doused people pls
Cloud is town it's BB seriously
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Post Post #959 (isolation #182) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:07 pm

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Post Post #968 (isolation #183) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:00 pm

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I did it for you Fire :')
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Post Post #973 (isolation #184) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:12 pm

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Yeah BB not being here in the last moments won the game for me and FA pretty clutch tbh
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Post Post #974 (isolation #185) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:13 pm

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In post 969, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 968, Vifam wrote:I did it for you Fire :')
Best teammate ever, I had real doubts about it for awhile, but you managed to pull it off.
Well played friend.

I knew buddying you hard day 1 would make people skeptical of us being a team :)
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Post Post #975 (isolation #186) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:20 pm

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In post 971, CloudKicker wrote:but gg vifam
You too man you're a cool guy
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Post Post #982 (isolation #187) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:26 pm

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This setup is harder for scum imo you're pretty much fucked if your partner dies D1
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Post Post #987 (isolation #188) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:51 pm

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Just be more outgoing probably
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Post Post #988 (isolation #189) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:52 pm

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That's what my mom says
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Post Post #992 (isolation #190) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:04 am

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In post 990, TierShift wrote:
In post 979, mhsmith0 wrote:I think scum are 3-1 in this setup now. IMO it's still balanced, but it definitely doesn't have any of the easy clears/guilties that some other formats give you.
In post 982, Vifam wrote:This setup is harder for scum imo you're pretty much fucked if your partner dies D1
I don't understand why people consider this setup balanced. It's a 9p setup with only a doc who, if he saves his target, doesn't even know his target is town. There is absolutely no reason not to bus in this setup because if you do it well it clears you from any ties with your partner and not having associatives to investigate induces town apathy.

I don't get how you can say this setup is hard for scum if your partner dies day 1, vifam. If you get towncred from his lynch, you're pretty much set. Compare it to any setup with an investigative, in which you're completely boned. Take the newbie setup for instance, you absolutely need to hit a certain PR night 1 or possibly night 2 to not instalose.

I feel this setup needs a tracker.
If town is on their shit it's way harder for scum I think a tracker makes it too townsided
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