Micro 666 - The Last Tryout [Game over - night 5]

[Pine]

shos next time can you do things the old fashioned way in role pms lol
for now i'm just going to assume i'm scum with Pine until told otherwise

VOTE: Parama
Lies and balderdash

[Pine]

Go go go go go

[Pine]

Kill yourself

[Pine]

And talk in our PT, god!

[Pine]

I'm trying to kill myself can't you see
You still have to send in a night kill after I'm lynched though
And shos never gave me permission to see our PT

Me neither! That rat bastard

[Pine]

VOTE: Parama

FLASHWAGON FOR GREAT JUSTICE

[Pine]

Did Tenshii just scum claim in 25?

No. I don't know where the whole "last to claim is scum" thing came from, but it's nonsense.

[Pine]

VOTE: Shadowwez

For being hypocritical in 8.

Parama is probably town.

Bolded is ridiculous. There's absolutely not enough evidence to have this kind of confidence. Not sure if this is buddying or overconfident scum.

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

Out of RVS.

[Pine]

Yeah, BNL is scum. *highfive Parama*

I see Vedith Town.

Everything else is too early to tell, including Parama being on point. In singleball, that would look Town, but scumhunting could just as easily be scum-on-scum.

I'm a little flattered to be your only null read, Parama.

[Pine]

Now the thing is that clearly my vote in 56 was RVS. And after I quoted what I voted over in #93 it becomes obvious. If you'd said "Oops I didn't realise it was a joke reasoning" it'll be a town response, but instead you said "lol at scum defending themselves". I don't buy that you see 56 as serious.

You voted me over 56 as you saw a wagon growing on me, but you refuse to admit that your reasoning was wrong as you wanted to keep your vote on me.

I'm now more sure of my scumread on you.

The vote isn't what we regarded as serious. The strong TR at daystart for no reason smacks of informed minority.

Also, it's a little panicky-scum to accuse someone of jumping on a hot bandwagon when he was the second vote on you.

@Shadow: I really despise long posts full of nonsense questions, most of which are more tedious than helpful. I

don't know

why BNL would be buddying Parama, I merely noticed that he was

doing it

. It's my job to make observations, then draw conclusions from them. Not shake my magic 8-ball and divine the deeper reasons why people do the things they do.

[Pine]

you bring up a really bloody good point though.

shadow.

you didn't make a single assertion in that entire post. you just asked a bunch of questions without putting any effort into interpreting things or coming to conclusions.

i gain absolutely nothing by reading through that post. i have no idea what your reads are. i have no clue who you suspect. i have no clue what you find scummy or towny.

it's kind of like, you're not scumhunting, but trying to give off the illusion that you are by asking a lot of questions

because town don't have to fake anything and scum do

This guy gets it.

[Pine]

Skulls for the skull throne

Moar BNL votes

[Pine]

Pine, are you intentional playing against your meta from last game?

I don't have a meta. Any meta assumptions are yours.

[Pine]

Pine, are you intentional playing against your meta from last game?

I don't have a meta. Any meta assumptions are yours.

Ok, I'm assuming you're playing very differently this game from last game on purpose.

VOTE: pine

How am I playing differently? I don't think I am.

Also, I was scum last time. If you detect a difference, that should be significant.

[Pine]

VOTE: Infinity

I ISO'd him overnight. Scumfucker's posts look contrived as fuck.

[Pine]

^I buy it.

PEdit: Both posts.

[Pine]

Parama and vedith are town by PoE

This is pretty blatant buddying and an appeal to the players most likely to hound you relentlessly.

What the fuck PoE could you possibly be doing in multiball with one flip? Did you mean to post this in your PT? The only PoE I could see you doing is if you're trying to narrow down who BNL's partner was, and you have at least one more result (you shot a BP last night).

[Pine]

Agreement =! sheeping

[Pine]

I didn't "buy them," I agreed with them. You'll notice I voted you before Parama, not the other way around.

Quit trying to rob me of my agency.

[Pine]

You're conflating two things. First, yes, I believe Parama is Town. His logic makes sense - he's not orange, he led the wagon on BNL in a setup that sharply discourages bussing. He's probably not red because if I were orange, he'd be my number one target. He's not confirmed by any stretch, but that was a reasonable deductive process, and I agree.

As for his reads list, I generally agree with most of them, and as a strong TR who led the first scumlynch and is with me on the second, I am inclined to listen to him.

I find it fascinating to watch you try and contort general agreement into toadying obedience.

[Pine]

Yeah, I see Gamma scum.

I see Vedith Town, too.

Parama + Pine + Vedith ftw. With BP, let's lynch the rest for victory.

[Pine]

Clearly, my vote is on you.

[Pine]

I think you're red team, or I wouldn't be voting for you. Letting both members of one team live is part of how Town lost the last game.

[Pine]

And also not recognizing an extremely obvious Towntell from Grey Ice/Gamma, but that's beside the point. Scum generally does not ragequit. If someone gets so pissed with the gamestate that they ragequit, it's pretty clear they're in the uninformed minority, rare exceptions notwithstanding.

[Pine]

Pine I think you're getting this game mixed up with the last one. Greyice was never in this game.

What do you think about the plan for 2/1/1? Do you think 50% is our best shot?

I'm not. I'm referring to it in the past tense.

As for 2/1/1, it isn't exactly ideal. However, scum's best chance is to shoot for each other, not for Town. I think it more likely that whoever they shot last night is safe for now. 2/1/1 only happens if scum are derpy or we get extremely unlucky and they shoot each other's N1 choices.

[Pine]

you also learned: never claim scum until the mod flips

Yeah, this right here.

Brilliant gambit, Parama. That was truly inspired in execution.

i mean, that's where it started

your reactions sealed the deal

Yeah, seriously. We talked about this in the dead thread. You keep insisting that what you did wasn't scummy, but Parama and I both nailed you for it. At that point, it's not a lucky guess.

You got caught fair and square. Live and learn.

[Pine]

You all played really well IMO
But damnnn you guys lynched quicklyyy

Also pagetop?

epic fail

[Pine]