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Secret Agent Jin
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Post #6 (isolation #0) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:38 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
Radja, dont know if you can but could you possibly scale the vote counts down a tiny bit. They appear on my screen as being cut off on the right side. Thank you in advance.
So Creeps, we meet again. What do you have to say for yourself, you homosapien! I will show everyone why you are scum, get ready. Everyone picture that you have a great adult life. You have a wonderful job, a beautiful wife, and two 3 year old twins. You and your wife work so you need a baby sitter so you put out an ad. Someone calls you about the job and you agree to meet. When the time comes to meet your potential babysitter, Creeps shows up. Would you trust your children with Creeps? The answer is no because he is scum!
Radja, dont know if you can but could you possibly scale the vote counts down a tiny bit. They appear on my screen as being cut off on the right side. Thank you in advance.
So Creeps, we meet again. What do you have to say for yourself, you homosapien! I will show everyone why you are scum, get ready. Everyone picture that you have a great adult life. You have a wonderful job, a beautiful wife, and two 3 year old twins. You and your wife work so you need a baby sitter so you put out an ad. Someone calls you about the job and you agree to meet. When the time comes to meet your potential babysitter, Creeps shows up. Would you trust your children with Creeps? The answer is no because he is scum!
VOTE: Creeps
Is it because there's only one line of 9 people not voting? Because this will not be the case at the next VC.
No, there are three lines for no votes, the first ends at ArcAngel and the second ends at Joshz. His name is cut off and a bit of the flavor text about the car is cut off. I was just letting you know in advance.
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Post #21 (isolation #4) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:13 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
Why did you join this game? Its the walking dead which i love and i like radja's modding
Who here would you trust with your vote if they were town? I dont think i understand what you mean by trusting someone with your vote. Like, who do i trust that i would follow their vote? ArcAngel or you because i like both your playstyles.
What roles do you not like? I dont like PGO (talk about chaos) and Hider (easy to die if they choose the wrong person)
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Post #23 (isolation #5) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:16 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
In post 20, knightmare wrote:I guess I'll do RQS so others have something to read whenever they join the thread.
1) I was looking for a small game to join and I like the theme.
2) I don't know anyone here so can't really say.
3) Any roles that return negative results.
For your number 3, do you mean like insane cop which makes town people read as scum and visa versa or rookie cop which makes every read town? I hate rookie cops and paranoid cops, they are useless roles.
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Post #72 (isolation #7) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:17 am
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
1. Do you prefer playing town or scum?
2. What is your favorite role to play?
1) Either alignment is fine with me because all roles are fun to play excluding Hider and VT.
2) I like to play the role cop
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I don't like these posts that are trying to start a wagon on Gamma, there is not even enough posts to get any half-solid reads on anyone. We are 3 pages in and people havent even had a chance to have AI posts.
In post 72, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
I don't like these posts that are trying to start a wagon on Gamma, there is not even enough posts to get any half-solid reads on anyone. We are 3 pages in and people havent even had a chance to have AI posts.
This is sketchy as hell
When would you consider there to be enough pages for a "solid read"?
In my beliefs, you can start to make solid reads after everyone settles in and starts to analyze one another. We are still in RVS IMO, there are people still goofing around and the Gamma votes are not based off of any real reads, mainly the BBT posts. Creeps is all over the place and Joshz's posts dont make sense. We are too early in the game to be jumping on wagons.
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Post #77 (isolation #9) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:02 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
In post 74, knightmare wrote:
Also fwiw @Jin - I agree with Cakez here. What page of the thread we're on is irrelevant. You can generate content by offering up your own thoughts or pushing others for their's. Continuing RQS is what doesn't yield AI type posts.
The RQS thing was because it was asked before so i just threw my answers in. As far as the page number, i believe it is irrelevant too but we havent even had everyone post yet and there are people still randomly posting. On that note, i might as well throw in a question.
@Everyone: What is everyones thoughts on BBT and others going after a wagon on Gamma? What is your thoughts on Gamma's posts so far?
In post 72, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
I don't like these posts that are trying to start a wagon on Gamma, there is not even enough posts to get any half-solid reads on anyone. We are 3 pages in and people havent even had a chance to have AI posts.
This is sketchy as hell
When would you consider there to be enough pages for a "solid read"?
In my beliefs, you can start to make solid reads after everyone settles in and starts to analyze one another. We are still in RVS IMO, there are people still goofing around and the Gamma votes are not based off of any real reads, mainly the BBT posts. Creeps is all over the place and Joshz's posts dont make sense. We are too early in the game to be jumping on wagons.
And how do you know the Gamma votes aren't from real reads???
Just because posts are "all over the place/don't make sense" doesn't mean they can't be analyzed
BBT looks to be basing his Gamma vote off gut feelings but hasn't have reasoning because there isnt any. Do me a favor, find me a reason to vote Gamma. I posted my thoughts on the Gamma wagon before it started because i rather a wagon not start on someone that hasnt done anything scummy. I dont know how my attempt to stop a Gamma wagon or anything i posted is scummy but apparently Gamma thinks i am scummy. He has played with me before and in those games i have been called a naturally scummy player. I guess it is my playstyle but every game i join people find me scummy. Anyways i am not saying the random posts cant be analyzed, i am saying that some people use RVS for joking around and nonsense posts, you can analyze those posts but in my opinion they wont tell you much about people's alignments and actual motivation towards the game.
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Post #107 (isolation #13) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:14 am
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
@BBT Is that vote OMGUS? I didnt even suspect you, i just said that i didnt like you trying to start a wagon on Gamma. If i am scum to you then does that make Gamma my scum buddy in your eyes? I am trying to figure out a better reasoning for two people jumping on my lynch quick. Creeps didnt like my posts but didnt give reasoning why and BBT didnt give any reason.
In post 107, Secret Agent Jin wrote:@BBT Is that vote OMGUS? I didnt even suspect you, i just said that i didnt like you trying to start a wagon on Gamma. If i am scum to you then does that make Gamma my scum buddy in your eyes? I am trying to figure out a better reasoning for two people jumping on my lynch quick. Creeps didnt like my posts but didnt give reasoning why and BBT didnt give any reason.
In post 107, Secret Agent Jin wrote:@BBT Is that vote OMGUS? I didnt even suspect you, i just said that i didnt like you trying to start a wagon on Gamma. If i am scum to you then does that make Gamma my scum buddy in your eyes? I am trying to figure out a better reasoning for two people jumping on my lynch quick. Creeps didnt like my posts but didnt give reasoning why and BBT didnt give any reason.
My vote had a
very
different purpose.
Continue
Why did you put a vote on me then?
Reasons
What!? Your reasoning is reasons? That is a really weird response. Alright, anyways, moving on from this. I would like a response from BBT when he is on and what do other people think of Creeps?
I dont think he knew he hammered but he did, by my count it is 5 votes on creeps and that is a lynch. I think BBT thought he had more leeway, dont hold it against BBT.
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Post #133 (isolation #17) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:41 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
I wasnt stopping progression on the game, i was saying that there wasnt a reason for a Gamma lynch. I also said that RVS should not be taken solidly, people need to look at RVS with the possibility that there might be some posts that people dont really mean. Its called Random Vote Stage, not True Feelings Stage.
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Post #219 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:50 am
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
@BBT I understand that you want to "test" Josh but if the only reason to vote him is to test him but there isnt a FOS/scummy reason then lets just leave him alone for now.
Well, i didnt expect a confession from scum D2 but ill take it, Good going Mollie.
Was this a joke post or is he really a BPV Townie? If he is lying and flips scum Mollie is obvtown but is it possible that he is BPV Townie and scum shot him and because Mollie RBed him it looked like he was scum? My vote is staying on him right now but.i still want an answer to this.
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Post #261 (isolation #20) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:41 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
Im sorry for the absence, i have the flu and i have been sleeping like 18 hours a day. I am going to take some medicine and when i wake up tomorrow (12:40am here now) ill come out of hiding and read through and see if i can find any connection to Knightmare in anyones ISO.
Why is Gamma scummy enough to vote? You seem to just throw votes around with no explaination.
are.
you.
fucking.
kidding.
me.
I was hoping to get some actual explainations from BBT as he just throws out votes without much reason behind it. You don't need to be so dramatic over trying to get a player to be more active.
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Post #306 (isolation #24) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:17 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
If Mollie (a conf PR) thinks BBT is town then that is enough for right now to set BBT aside. The Hated Townie role could be a ploy to keep votes off Joshz but i am willing to believe that right now. Gamma does seem scummy to me but the day just started and i agree with mollie that we should take some time to gather information. I will have to ISO Cakez as i admittedly dont have a read on him one way or the other.
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Post #311 (isolation #25) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:30 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
In post 310, Joshz wrote:if we narrow it down to gamma and jin id rather lynch jin first, i dont like leaving bbt but ill give into pressure and lynch jin
Its understandable but i have two questions that i want to ask.
1) If it is narrowed to Gamma and I then why are you hesitant to leave the BBT vote?
2) Why do you write off Cakez? He is the only player i dont really a solid read on and i am curious why he isnt included in any reads. Is it due to Mollie, did i miss a townread from her?
In post 342, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I agree that his flail kind of looks like town but in the event he has read correctly he really needs to be lynched ASAP.
I haven't paid much attention to Jin tbh, Gamma is my preferred second choice.
jin is hiding in the corners too much. so i am kinda leaning jin then mebbe gamma if the game is still on.
@ josh
so far the only person who has their head up their ass with a chip on their shoulder is you so far. its okay to be aggressive, that isn't what you are doing. you are being manipulative.
Actually, i have been posting, i even gave my reads a few posts back. I was absent for a littke bit because i am having medical issues with my dog but i am still here. Hiding in corners is a unique choice of words, i assure you i am here.
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Post #375 (isolation #32) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:03 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
Knightmare voted Josh, Gamma, Mollie, and Myself at the last day phase. If anything it puts us all on the same level referring to our connection to Knightmare. The only person he didnt vote for was Cakez but you cleared him, Mollie.
In post 370, Joshz wrote:but you are giving up the opportunity to lynch both to lynch me instead
Yep.
You shld probably go think about that.
ISO on knight rules out Josh and gamma and bbt
So how does the ISO on knight rule out Josh and Gamma but not myself?
This post is scummy as hell
Basically "why can't we mislynch one of those two????"
That post is more along the lines of Knightmare mentioned all of us the same. I am not hiding, i dont know why she excluded my name as we all, according to Knightmare, were either equally scummy or equally townread. The only name he didnt mention that is alive is you Cakez but Mollie is sure you are clear and i am willing to believe her. We need to find the hidden scum amongst us.
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Post #385 (isolation #35) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:26 am
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
I think Mollie should keep her RB secret based on what Gamma said. Its possible that the scum has an rb/jk ability but seeing as Knightmare was 1-shot, what is the possibility of his partner being one-shot?
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Post #388 (isolation #36) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:21 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
I just reread Gamma' s post and i understand what Josh and Cakez mean now. Why would a mafia roleblocker matter in reference to if Mollie keeps her choice secret? The mafia would still RB her no matter her decision.
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Post #409 (isolation #41) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:28 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
I have played like 2 or 3 games with Josh and everytime he is lynched, no matter his alignment, he gets upset like no matter what role he plays he should be alive in the end game. News to you Joshz, sometimes you get lynched D1 sometimes you last until the end game, thats mafia.
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Post #427 (isolation #43) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:13 am
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
You have a point, if he was alive now then it would still take 2 votes to lynch him which could keep him safe. I just lookes and we are down to four players. Anyways, we need to be sure about this lynch as it is mylo. Gamma claimed VT and proposes a mass claim, does that sound good BBT and Cakez? I am Carol Peletier, Town Hider.
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Post #432 (isolation #44) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:21 am
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
Claim actions? Like where i hid? I hid behind Cakez every night. Mollie was confident he was town and i know he is town because i didnt die but i couldnt come out and say i know he is town because people would question why i knew.
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Post #436 (isolation #46) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:55 am
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
In post 433, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay that makes sense, but it would have been better to visit more people. Unless you're trying to avoid PoEing yourself by claiming more actions.
We had an extra death, yours would have been too much of a loss.
I am confused by the words in bold, what do you mean by that?
You didn't think it was risky hiding behind the most town read person?
I was pretty confident that the scum would choose Mollie over Cakez on N2 and when she was still alive D3 i got worried that my N3 choice would surely get me killed if i didnt choose wisely. Going into N3 i didnt want to hide behind Mollie in case she died because she did claim RB, which was a good idea in the end. I wasnt sure of Gamma's role (whether he was scum of not) so i wasnt going to hide behind him. You were my other option but i remember a post from you that seemed to me like a soft claim (i will find the post and quote it) and i wasnt sure if the scum picked up on it so i didnt want to chance hiding behind you.
This post was the one, it seemed like a doctor assuring Mollie he was using his night role on her and she would live. It might have just been you assuring Mollie that you would back her up.
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Post #450 (isolation #49) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:47 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
In post 445, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I just realised that I'm the daughter of Jin's character. I'm not sure if Carol would be a hider? Like, I could see it but I don't know if I'm comfortable with it.
My history says "Trying to hide from a group of walkers passing by" it might just be episode exclusive. I havent looked back at past games of Walking Dead but it seems to me that T-Dog would only be hated townie in this game.
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Post #456 (isolation #50) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:15 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
If we no lynch and there is a kill tonight then tomorrow will be 3 way lylo and we have another day but if, for some reason, Gamma is not scum and we lynch him then we lose since we go into the night with three people and the night kill will bring us to 1:1 and scum wins.
We either have to be SUPER sure of Scum!Gamma or we need to no lynch
So what do we do? You are in the clear so its down to Gamma, BBT, and myself that arent confirmed town. Thats a 33.3% chance of hitting scum. Im pretty convinced on BBT and it cant be me fmpov. That leaves Gamma but no one has really been scummy this game so i dont know if i want to take the chance on Gamma. Basically if we lynch and miss then scum wins. What do you propose we do in this situation?
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Post #471 (isolation #54) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:28 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
In post 470, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually it's convenient: by hiding behind the same guy, he clears less people.
If i was scum wouldnt i claim VT in this situation so that i clear no one and Cakez wouldnt be conftown? If i had done what i stated before and hid behind BBT one night and lived then BBT would be conftown too.
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Post #476 (isolation #56) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:04 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
Right but Dale and Lori are in the episode but not im the game due to the number playing. Also, if i understand right (because i havent played walking dead mafia before) just because a character is or isnt in the flavor doesnt mean they are or are not in the game. If we go by your logic then why is carol in the initial post picture?
Basically i am saying that the flavor has no dictation over who is in the game, we are essentially playing parts and the characters that were not given out (Dale and Lori for instance) are just NPCs.
Also, explain how there was still a kill last night if i am scum. Mollie announced she was blocking me last night. If i was blocked yet there was still a kill one can out two and two together to see i am not scum.
Like JK? If she was jailkept she couldnt die. Maybe you mean bus driver? That is possible i guess. You come at me like i am scum, like i have to explain myself (which i understand i do because i am a possibility for people) yet you dont explain yourself, everything you say could go for you too. Saying that scum MUST have a way for a PR not to target them is basically dismissing my point that Mollie blocked me. If scum has a way to avoid being blocked then why was knightmare blocked and killed? I think as scum you are using the block avoidance as an excuse to keep me as a suspect.
I say that it was public knowledge that i was being blocked N3 and you just wave it off and continue saying i killed Mollie. I could say the same for you though, she said she was blocking me but actually blocked you but as scum with PR avoidance you simply avoided her RB and killed her, its ridiculous. How about the other possibility that i WAS blocked and you killed Mollie?
I doubt that has any reflection on the flavor of the roles passed out. Do you really think that Radja would hard confirm a character/role by putting it in the flavor? If so that would kind of be game throwing. The only people that can be characters are town, the scum are zombies in this game (see knightmare flip). If Radja put the characters/roles he passed out in the flavor then that would hard confirm you are town and he wouldn't do that.
TL;DR Just because a character is in the flavor doesnt mean a player is playing that character, it could just be a fakeclaim/NPC
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Post #484 (isolation #59) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:24 pm
Postby Secret Agent Jin »
I reread that and i didnt explain what i meant good enough. I meant that not all characters passed out are in the flavor (Daryl, T-Dog) and not all characters on the flavor are necessarily in the game as roles. If Rick was in the flavor and the game then someome could do what Gamma is doing now and just point at the flavor to confirm their role is who they say they are. I got Carol but my character isnt mentioned in the flavor so is it not an actual role by Gamma's standards? This is a ridiculous arguement made to grasp at straws. I will happily engage you on conversations/arguements if they are based on actual game mechanics or something someone said. As of right now Cakez and BBT have to make up their mind and come to a decision.
I know i am not conftown but i hope the fact that i hide behind Cakez and that is the reason i am alive (he wasnt attacked/is not dead therefore i am alive) and the fact that Mollie publicly mentioned that she was RBing me last night yet a kill still happened is taken into account. What arguements has Gamma really brought up? That i only confirmed Cakez as to not confirm too many people? This was my first run as Hider and i will take it into consideration that it probably isnt best to hide behind one person all game, Cakez seemed like the best person to hide with as Mollie was alive and a confirmed PR so i was sure scum was going after her.
