Micro 728: Perfect Blue Mafia (GAME OVER)

[CloudKicker]

Yo nerds

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You guys confirmed the role pretty quickly

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I'm going to win

You mind giving me a hint ahour your alignement

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I'm going to win

You mind giving me a hint ahour your alignement

I'm an alignment that starts with T and rhymes with gown!

How's that for a hint?

Tgown? Sounds like a threat VOTE: aristo

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Leon really, i had that top page

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I'm an alignment that starts with T and rhymes with gown!

Aristo is Totally a Scum Clown, got it.

VOTE: Cloudkicker because honestly you should have been able to come up with a better answer than "tgown"

and i thought i was being funny

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@creat i also have two ish trs and a sr

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Cloud why did you only mention your reads once creature mentioned his reads?

You mean, why did i ask creature after #40 and not #30? Its because at the time he poster #40 creature was active and posting and i just wanted to engage with him

So far only got two townreads, possibly a scumread if someone doesn't get townread by the time I return.

schadd and Tarkus look the scummiest so far.

Others beside massive and Dark Horse are all lean town.

Cloud why did you only mention your reads once creature mentioned his reads?

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posted* also format errors

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And you guys start posting when im drinking with friends

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Tone wise i hated almost every prism's post and it has nothing to do with the miller claim

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at first glance i dont scumread any of you in that exchange

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Can we stop naked voting

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I cant read though processes with a wagon formed from naked votes

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VOTE: prism you sound extremely manipulative

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I already said i hated your tone, i dont like the timing of your votes and your though process behind them, not trying to pocket anyone

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aristo

boy

tonereads are one thing but what on earth is that

and im assuming youre implying that my post is a reaction to this, its just one of the post i dont like

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So Aristophanes, now that Nacho isn't here for me to use as a crutch-how the fuck should I read you?

Tone is off af on this one, pings my tone radar, also its kinda similar to your next post i dont like which is

I get the feeling Dunnstral's going to be a hard read this time around. Last time he basically gave it to me on a platter by mistake and I feel like I can't expect that to happen again.

I generally think hiding reads is silly but earlygame, near RVS I can see the intent.

This post sounds like the stuff i say when im scum and trying to set the tone of the game when im playing with someone i played earlier or recently, i talk about the last game and how my reads should be different because my alignement is different and what not.This is how i feel when i read the post, scum also tends to say half-truth or half-statement because its easier to not contradict yourself. Thats why it kinda sound manipulative.

"I generally think hiding reads is silly but earlygame, near RVS I can see the intent." <- this sentence looks useless and manipulative to me, as if you wanted to voice an opinion that is just not needed or even pertinent there aka appearing to say something looks more important than the quality of what you say, it looks shallow

That DarkHorse/massive interaction was just dumb. Dark Horse was in the right here as far as I could tell, and his vote on massive was fine.

I take it you'd rather target one of the LESS active people in this game for an early wagon?
VOTE: Dark Horse

Like, massive said this like it was a bad thing. Spurring activity is powerful is typically the intent behind town naked votes (And is the reason I joined the schadd wagon) This is some grade-A bad posting despite me not finding it scummy, just annoying. Dark Hose's #80 is overly forceful for my taste and doesn't read great, rest of it is just him correctly calling out massive for ego/overreaction.

Schadd's reaction isn't great in my opinion so I'll keep my vote for now. I guess nothing he's said has really been wrong (Maybe considering my playstyle is town?) but not really sure where else I'd throw my vote right now.

I get why people say there's an obvious difference between Aristotown and scum now. This is already so much better than what I've seen of his scumgames.

Actually I will vote Dark Horse here after all.

VOTE: Dark Horse

I really didn't want to at first because I didn't want to validate any of what I think are poor posts from massive but that's really dumb.

Your are saying that their interactions was just dumb, but why? Then you are saying that dark horse is right and his fos is correct even tho you dont personnaly scumread massive for it. So youre saying that dark horse thought process if fine and valid for voting massive even if you dont, yourself, fos massive which can be fair

i might stretch it a little but i feel like you are being apologetic about your play and passively trying to justify what you do and doesnt do, which is what self-conscious scum does
->"not really sure where else I'd throw my vote right now."
->"Actually I will vote Dark Horse here after all"

This sentence again sounds manipulative to me and again, is about meta and past game
->"I get why people say there's an obvious difference between Aristotown and scum now. This is already so much better than what I've seen of his scumgames." could also be lowkey pockety

aristo

boy

tonereads are one thing but what on earth is that

Again i dont like the tone and the word used, you just discredit w/o actually asking aristo why he said that. You also implied that you thought he was town in your last post yet you are quick to 180 on a single post that could be very very well be coming from town, i dont personally scumread aristo's post about the towny stuff, i hate that post

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Of all the people on the table, you are the first to ping me, you also even lowkey discredited my vote before i explained myself, which is again manipulative

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In post 133, CloudKicker wrote:
wallish

you sound super different from the game i played with you (open 675) but it's in a good way. how have u evolved and transformed as a player in these severals of months

This is my only active game and im super busy irl, so when i log in im not as inclined to troll and i dont know anyone on the table so eh

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lol thats actually funny, it means that i was aware that your tone could come off as scummy and something i could use to push you

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UNVOTE:

the answers were satifying, also hi dun

[CloudKicker]

im still salty about our town lost you know

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im still salty about our town lost you know

Which game

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i townread massive, his posts looks genuine

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Thoughts on Tarkus?

He doesnt have much content but i think his tone is pretty towny

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i just reread his iso and i think he just needs to post more

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So far my reads are something like this


Prism
Dark Horse, Massive
Aristo?, shadd? need to reread this line but i initially trd them
Dunnstral
Tarkus
creature


something something

Creature is a user i can normally hard townread in 1 good post, but nothing so far

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Why do you scumread schadd? also you are asking a question but youre making your own conclusion before i even answer

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Also in my list, shadd is much more in my null line than my townread line, having said that i havent seen anything from him that makes me scumread them and i liked some of the lines so yea, town lean

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Yet you outed some terrible and unexplained reads, why is shadd mafia again creature

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Maybe unexplained because there might not have much to explain, but not terrible.

terrible because inaccurate and unwarranted imo for dun, he hasnt been scummier than most of the table and as far as i can tell, you scumread me because im associated with shadd

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Yet you outed some terrible and unexplained reads, why is shadd mafia again creature

well why is he town

I explained my shadd weak read in two posts earlier, read them

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Thoughts on Tarkus?

He doesnt have much content but i think his tone is pretty towny

i just reread his iso and i think he just needs to post more

Wait what

can you explain your reads

I said his tone is kinda towny but he needs to post more so i can have a better read, i cant really explain anything but the tone read if you really really want

[CloudKicker]

So far my reads are something like this


Prism
Dark Horse, Massive
Aristo?, shadd? need to reread this line but i initially trd them
Dunnstral
Tarkus
creature


something something

Creature is a user i can normally hard townread in 1 good post, but nothing so far

Maybe unexplained because there might not have much to explain, but not terrible.

terrible because inaccurate and unwarranted imo for dun, he hasnt been scummier than most of the table and as far as i can tell, you scumread me because im associated with shadd

Looks like you do think I'm scummier than most of the table, though?

Theres a difference in being scummy and less towny than the rest of the table, i dont think youre scummy but i do think that the people above look townier, the interrogations mark i added to aristo and shadd was because it was a weak read i just remembered but wasnt recent

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I don't even know what your reads are tbh.

I outed a read list, why do you scumread shadd creature

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schadd is mafia because this isn't how town!him plays. He has only five posts this game and his posts don't seem to reach anything.

Sorry i missed that

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Cloudkicker, what are you seeing in Schadd that puts him higher above others on the table?

Tone on his 4 posts, gut read and nothing substantial, also no teason to rush a lynch 5 days into d1 when no everyone has posted enough, shadd himself

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i like his content so far but i would like for him to post more, so overall semi

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CloudKicker

What do you think about Dark Horse?

i think hes town, i think his read progression when he was conversing with massive looked alright, i like his tone and overall his posts doesnt look like coming from scum

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May i ask you why you ask my opinion personnaly if you scumread me? Is it because youre trying to sort me or that you changed your read

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not a bad answer but its hard to believe i am being poed down when im only behind you in post count

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same, this isnt getting anywhere and shadd in particular needs to post

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Schadd needs to post so we can have better result if we either decides to lynch him or outside

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VOTE: shadd this is a t flip imo but he has only posted a like twice in the last 4 days so i cant be bothered to wait after him

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L-1

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cool shadd posted, will read later

UNVOTE:

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I dont want shadd, im pretty confidend he will flip t if lynched

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DH most likely. Probably not you because of the whole tgown thing. Ari I'm townleaning on tone and meta but that's kinda weak. CK, although he isn't on the wagon right now, is another possibility I'll look at.

So you are sus of me because im associated with shadd, what happens id youre wrong and shadd is town?

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How come your shadd read is credible enough for you to look like the foundation of your other reads, my slot inclued

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A quick look at your iso and you havent really commented shadd at all, if anything you even admitted after voting that your vote was meant to make shadd post more and wasnt an "actual" scumread, you also posted more about massive than shadd.

Can you try to explain me your shadd scumread because your read progression doesnt work for me with only your iso

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I oppose, but i also dont want creature so

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Also imo the way shadd and creature has been voted doesnt look like a town wagon on scum, i was busy recently and this roster isnt super active so there isnt much that can be done

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Dunn, what's the basis of your strong Creature townread?

Not falling for that. This was never about Creature. I'm voting schadd today and that's that. You guys can hop on to the lynch and stop wasting everybodies time, organize a lynch completely without me, or nolynch.

Theres still 2 whole days + 6hours left, we only need 5 votes to lynch someone

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Ive been lowkey scumreading tarkus for his recent posting and our dicussion so, seeing creature might vote there over shadd and we still have 2 days i dont feel bad

VOTE: tarkus

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My initial read on tarkus was that his day start posting was pretty good, i townread individually some of his posts and was the reason why it kept my early townread afloat but i also disliked some of his posts when i asked about about his shadd post/push and so on, i also preffer this over shadd/creat for now

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Sure, let's see

VOTE: Tarkus

cool, thank you for being consistant with your other post

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Creature instantly voting againts the guy leading his cw is pretty good and towny

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If creature was mafia, he still has 3 votes on him w/o takus and shadds vote who look like the only other possible lynches today. Swtiching his vote from someone heavily scumread (shadd) versus the guy leading his cw when tarkus could just 180d on his ass for survivalism

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UIm here but really busy irl and to answee tarkus i just didnt like your answers, some of your linea sounds straight up fake/disingenuous, i also didnt like the others options so i wanted to try to get reads on another slot and the rxn from town

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Typo is because im on phone and lazy

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Ill vote whatever to not force a no lynch

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Im drjnk, but tarkus is my recent read and im not sure, but we should hammer this since its 2 hours to go

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I wouldve moved my vote to the highest wagon rn, i prob might not log back

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Im pretty sure im getting night killed tonight because no one dared push me seriously or try to shade me, if it happens im just want to be clear about my reads and say that i townread dun and creature

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Vote Count 1.09

Tarkus (3):

CloudKicker, Creature, Aristophanes

Creature (2):

massive, Dark Horse

schadd_ (1):

Tarkus

Dark Horse (1):

Prism

Dunnstral (1):

schadd_

Aristophanes (1):

Dunnstral

Not Voting:

Mod Notes:

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2017-07-22 00:18:39)

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Im pretty sure only d'un changed her vote since then i am on the higesr wagon so i cant do anything more, anyone who hasnt showed up to cote should be in scrutinity tomorow

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Scum pron hard townread publicily to make that kill

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Prpb

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Prob* jeez

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I really think dh is town

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Dun dh should both be town

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Dun dh should both be town

Why

Why what, why i townread both of you or why you both "should" be town? I think both your play and especially your voting pattern at the end of d1not to be akind of mafia

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I'm a 1-shot cop

Is that a hard claim? And im assuming if you checked red shadd you wouldve votes them already

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Is that a hard claim?

Yes

Cool, is it on shadd?

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Aristophanes

CloudKicker

Dunnstral

Dark Horse

Creature
Prism

schadd_

Why the hardtownread on both aria and prism?

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If shadd is actually hard guilsted, we should use the day and decides on another lynch tomorow with the 1-shot cop and use the time today to analyse d1 correctly with a clear

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Guilted*

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im assuming you arent outing your check because you want to gather reads before outing it, but if that was actually your intent you shouldve just not outed until later in the day

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Aristophanes seemed pretty worried about not ending D1 with a nolynch (thus why he kept saying he would hammer and stuff), while I would expect scum!Ari to just lurk until day ends.

Do you think Prism guessed Dunnstral was cop

?

how and why would he ?

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Hm on dh, i really did tr some of his content but yea the move is to sheep dun

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So if anyone has an actual case to why would lynching dun better for town than to guilty test this hard guilty, then move forward. If not, then im assuming that the desicated lynch for d3 is dh and from now on we try to find 2nd mafia if dh flip red and 2nd if d'un gets conf tomorow with a green flip

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Im okay with shadd tomorow atm anyway so

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Yea, i meant that im okay with the town stance for tomorow, but j wont auto lynch

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putting him d-1 was a bad idea

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I'll be honest, I put the L-1 hoping he would self hammer as scum because the day felt over. Gives good insight on those that already posted pre-hammer too!

it was pretty obvious he wouldve

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{Dunn, Ari, Prism, me} townblock

still wondering why you hard townread ari that much and lowkey shade me there

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i didnt mean to say shade but imply that im not worthy of being townread because by then i would be the only one outside your townblock beside shadd

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Also the only reason why i have been lowkey scumread in this game is because i was associated early on to shadd, which make no sens to further scumread me on with this red flip so

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Vote Count 1.10

Tarkus (5): CloudKicker, Creature, Aristophanes, schadd_, Prism

Creature (2):

massive, Dark Horse

schadd_ (2):

Tarkus, Dunnstral

Not Voting:

Day 1 is over.

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This voting log is also pretty good and telling, both massive and tarkus (the only 2 counterwagons leaders to tarkus the town) both fliped town, leaving dun on shad (who is also confirmed town as of the red flip), leaving darkhorse who never showed up at the end of d1 and let his vote onto shadd's prior counterwagon, this further shows that shadd is associated with dh.

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Yea but i never scumread out, i just dont think your play is hard tr worthy. I am really underperforming this game but i had an easier time reading you like a book in our last game

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scumread you* i really type like shit

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We weren't lynching this guy anytime soon without you

this

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its one hell of a check for a 1-shot cop

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If I had to make a list right now off the top of my head. Ordered town to scum within tiers.

Town club: CK, Aristo, honorary member Dunn
Would rather not lynch right now pile: Tarkus, I guess Massive
No idea but probably wouldn't cry: Creature
Sure I can see myself lynching them: Dark Horse, Schadd

if shadd is actually mafia, that list is really good

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I guess only I would think about wagoning Dark Horse and eventually everybody would sway me away from him.

and massive but he got nkd

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so like i didn't stop not liking dunn but dh vote makes more sense

This is the only thing shadd said about the whole ordeal of d2

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I hardclaim pr and mafia knows but i wont say what my role is. I received a pm i assumed was flavor from leon n1 but acttually it was the loud mechanic, i was on prism n1 so Dh watching him pretty much wouldved cleared him and is one of the reason why i think he got n2d

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That being said, as of yet i do not have useful information outside that prism was the watched target n1 so its pointless to ask me

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Im in favor of massclaim for 2 reasons:

- Im pretty sure i should be the last pr
- I think that the last mafia has an ability, if theres another pr claim it could help us guess what it is. The rules of this game said that mafia can make the kill + night action if they were alone, im not sure if it hints to both of them having a night action and having to decides which one to use along with the kill when they are both alive, maybe not but the town looked stacked so
- It will keep any confusion from arising if theres a claim later on at lylo

To be clear:

I am a visiting pr

target n1 : Prism -> i have been watched by dh and received a pm about it, but i ignored it because i assumed it wasnt a mechanic but flavor

target n2 : not outing it yet


your turn

[CloudKicker]

Well i made that post before i saw that you posted, you can claim first if you want or wait for shadd

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My two hard townreads died and my 3rd is claimed cop. Im not sure how you guys want to proceed from now on but a longer day could be beneficial

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@Dun you can literraly pick anyone and i will sheep you because you won your ml with your good check n2, but at least wait until we get reads for tomorrow in the event that we mislynch today

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Shadd if you have nothing to add ill just lynch you right away

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Whut, is that why you have been hard townread all game

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Also no one caring about this game ill just replace out and so something else

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VOTE: shadd

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L-1

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Hood job to prism to annihilate my early fos on them quite effectively and sorry tarkus i actually fliped the lynch from acum onto town