Micro 753: Votefuckery (Game Over)

[beeboy]

You've suicide bombed me after I replaced out of a game out of rage.
You tend to ignore all AtE that ever comes out of my slot unless you think I've literally crossed a line, the fact that it is me in particular makes it odd to me.

[beeboy]

The push, I am not sure?
Taking personal issue with that post I'd 100% do regardless of my alignment.

[beeboy]

If you said "beeboy wouldn't push me that hard as scum" we wouldn't be having this conversation though.

[beeboy]

I guess I can deal with it later.
Sakura just knows I am capable of taking things personally as scum and a natural reaction is what it would be as I'd literally just get mad at her.

[beeboy]

I was leaving it be because I was leaning town on you (trust me I don't leave scum reads be) and I wanted to talk about my reservation I had.
But this is getting kinda personal now.

[beeboy]

I really don't like being town read in situations where I don't think it makes sense, cause I fear buddying a lot.
Sorry I shouldn't let peeves of mine get to me about town reads.

[beeboy]

I feel like my presence in this game is making it a lot worse then what it needs to be.

[beeboy]

If you are seriously considering a person like me would resort to that just to get you lynched, then i guess we won't be friends for much longer.

This isn't a scum tactic.

[beeboy]

If you at any point felt the need to say something like this:

if Sakura is scum I am just never going to play mafia with her again.

If this is for real.
Then you should already know that scum me would be incapable of doing something like that.
And it hurts me that you even thought of that possibility.

I was just really mad at that moment in time, I don't really actually care tbh.
I guess we should prolly wait for post game to talk about this further.

[beeboy]

also, i'd like to confirm that there's nothing vote-related invovled with my role. how do you guys suggest i do this?

Like for yourself or for us?

[beeboy]

I actually am really confused on why people are questioning the universal backup claim, like thats a super awful fake claim to make before a flip has happened.

Why do you think your role can only be put in the hands of town?

[beeboy]

I have a feeling this game is going to be a town loss.

[beeboy]

Sleep is good 10/10 would recommend.

[beeboy]

I thought North's struggling to read the game thing was town and I really don't think anything done by Sheep was AI.
But now she's not doing anything so idk.

[beeboy]

I keep trying to get into this game but I just can't which kinda sucks .-.

[beeboy]

I kinda think we should just end the day tbh.
I feel like no one is trying to interact with anyone and everyone is waiting for people to interact with them.
Which is just making the game stall with no real benefit.


Like I get it, I want people to talk as well, but with no one trying to engage one another stalling is going to do fuck all.

[beeboy]

I really do enjoy making use of deadlines but if no one wants to engage anyone in a meaningful way or start a new wagon.
I just think that waiting around doing nothing hurts the game more then it helps.

[beeboy]

part of the reason that i haven't said anything is that i don't know what to say. nobody seems to care at all about what i'm saying. does nobody want to comment on my logic on the fake hammer? my reads? barely anyone has actually responded to what i've said - they've just maintained that they still scumread my slot.

Who do you want to see lynched?
Is there anything in particular you that would help you sort Sakura, Ali and I?

[beeboy]

ffs I can't English atm. >.>

[beeboy]

ASP wouldnt be a bad lynch

[beeboy]

His most recent post kinda sucked a lot.
It sidnt feel lile he was actually trying to do anything in it.

[beeboy]

It feels like he is coasting on the fact that people are either distracted or not doing much atm.

[beeboy]

His reads had 0 depth to them and he had almost no confidence in any of them, kinda just felt like a low confidence sheep of the general conensus

[beeboy]

Making a readlist isnt really hard to do at all

[beeboy]

Like does anyone have a reason to think ASP is town?

[beeboy]

ASP is just always scum.

[beeboy]

right, and what i'm arguing is that it's entirely obvious that he didn't care about this game or didn't have the time necessary to play it, so what exactly makes his behavior come from scum rather than it being non-alignment indicative? for that matter, what makes his behavior come from scum and not bored townie with a role that doesn't come into play until the next day? for reasons more than just me knowing my own alignment i'm fairly confident that this is sheep's meta.

I am talking about ASP.

[beeboy]

I like how we have claims out of over half the slots in this game.
Pretty 10/10 MS gameplay.

[beeboy]

prodge.

[beeboy]

Does anyone have anything about ASPs play that makes him a bad lynch?

[beeboy]

Ah so we aren't lynching ASP because no one cares about this game.
Got it.

[beeboy]

I mean you don't really have much of a reason to scum read North outside "has posted nothing town" and that is about it.

[beeboy]

beeboy is a good lynch imo, saves me the hassle of being lynched tomorrow.

[beeboy]

lmfao

[beeboy]

1-2 scum, 3 votes to lynch me.

Seems pretty simple.

[beeboy]

I still think North is town and have for awhile lol.

[beeboy]

Ok.

[beeboy]

Survivalism isn't inherently a scum trait :/

[beeboy]

Fatalism isn't inherently town either I've also only ever town read 3 people using that line of reasoning.

[beeboy]

If you've never seen anyone play mafia survivalistically as town, you have played in a very different pool of games then I have.
I've seen on numerous occasions people lynch town reads simply because they themselves didn't want to be lynched (I've done this as well)

[beeboy]

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She has a newbie on her account.

[beeboy]

Well ima go back to playing DDLC, bye bye!

[beeboy]

"oh we should just lynch me today"

Yes snagged it.

[beeboy]

(I am sorry pls lynch ASP.)

[beeboy]

Unless Ali has some super genius lynch plan e isn't sharing.

[beeboy]

Sakura, North, ASP, Beeboy Alisae

Given the frozen votes and you being voteless these are our lynch options today
we could lynch me if people think you are town I guess?
I still think North is town so lynching me is conditional on North not being lynched.

[beeboy]

if the consensus is the 5 of us our town I can just take the blow, I have the worst role so it makes most sense for me to go.

[beeboy]

our = are*
still pref ASP Lynch but I think people are town reading the slot.

[beeboy]

I don't mind being flash wagoned today if the other option is North.
Straight up I'd rather be lynched the go North -> Me sometime later in the game.

[beeboy]

Sakura vote me in your next post or I am playing anti town for the rest of the game.

[beeboy]

(or vote ASP that's a good lynch)

[beeboy]

Everyone but you and soblev I believe is scum reading me.

[beeboy]

Tomorrow is 3 votes to lynch me I don't want to lynch town today and lynch me tomorrow that's just bad.

[beeboy]

Myself + 3 other players.

[beeboy]

I auto hammer everyone including myself.

[beeboy]

We figured my role counters yours no?

So we freeze the votes on you again tomorrow?
What does that accomplish?

[beeboy]

What is your plan to make me not get auto hammered by myself tomorrow after any of the 100 players scum reading me votes me?

[beeboy]

And if you get NK'd over PP then what?
I want death vote me.

[beeboy]

Me or ASP are the only not shit options we have atm.


pedit: APS/Maru is where I am at tbh.

[beeboy]

Cuz ur being town read

[beeboy]

It enables me to die since your the only player defending me.
Pls 2 reasons right there.

[beeboy]

Yeh this game is ASP/Maru or NM/Maru or ASP/Ali maybe.

[beeboy]

I want death or ASP give me one.

[beeboy]

I have this awful habit of town reading people who are being lynched.
Fuck.

[beeboy]

Deadline: 0 days, 18 hours, 12 minutes

[beeboy]

VOTE: No lynch

I want an even number of players.

[beeboy]

tbh that no lynch actively makes not care more about this game

[beeboy]

Yes because I don't want an odd number of players.

[beeboy]

and could care less if we go from having 1 remaining mislynch to having 1 remaining mislynch.


um i typod twice

[beeboy]

what do we lose by no lynching

[beeboy]

not rly we lose if 2 mislynches occur regardless of whether or not we no lynch here.

pedit: I care little about the townies in this game. lylos with even numbers of players kind suck

[beeboy]

town almost never sync up in mylos and i want another townie to die now before scum can make a more informed kill later tbh.

[beeboy]

{ASP, Not_Sci}

I'd lynch either of these today but i don't really have a vote so my opinion doesn't matter lol.

[beeboy]

If ASP is town we need every single town vote to lynch correctly today btw lol.
pedit: yes

[beeboy]

Tbh I keep confusing shit in practically all my ongoings i should probably stop getting 3 hours of sleep.

[beeboy]

We don't lose another lynch if we no lynch though? we lose another townie but the # of lynches we have remain the same.

Like I said I'd do ASP or NM today.
Feel free to talk to me about other reads.

pedit: I lost track of the contents of the game after a 4 day night phase sorry.

[beeboy]

tbh I have 0 expectation we will no lynch today.

ASP or NM or another read lets talk about that.

[beeboy]

ASP or NM or another read lets talk about that.

[beeboy]

PP's death points more towards ASP as PP was hard tunneling the shit out of ASP.
Maybe he just died by proxy of him being town read by anyone that isn't Alisae as well, being dead and having right reads aren't necessarily the same thing.

I don't think its outside the realm of possibility scum (either north or someone else) didn't play around the universal backup.
Sakura's NU can be played around and mine is shit for the town in literally anyone's hands and I am clearly apathetic about this game so obviously scum wouldn't kill me.
Don't think PP points towards North, not like she gains anything by obtaining PP's role.

[beeboy]

ugh this game gets really hard when ASP and NM don't have anything to work with.

[beeboy]

Who are you ok lynching Sakura?

[beeboy]

I thought he was voteless today, i am sorry my bad

[beeboy]

Sakura do you intend to be passive aggressive for the remainder of this game?
If so I can just replace out.

[beeboy]

Like if you don't want to play mafia with me, whatever we don't need to play together.

@sakura

[beeboy]

I asked GiF voting roles dont work in mylo.