Micro 661 | Scumteam UnPick - Pressure Done

[Creature]

Micro 661: Scumteam UnPick

Players
Ms Columbo¹ Gamma Emerald	Vanilla Town	Survived
BlackVoid Tenshii²	Vanilla Town	Survived
Something_Smart² ArcAngel9¹	Mafia Goon	Lynched D4
Jaack¹	Vanilla Town	Killed N3
Dunhallym	Vanilla Town	Lynched D3
-Grey- ZZZX³	Vanilla Town	Killed N2
ProHawk²	Mafia Goon	Lynched D2
ssbm_Kyouko Secret Agent Jin	Vanilla Town	Lynched D1

Important links

Rules

Game Setup

Day 1

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Flip

Day 2

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Night 2

Day 3

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Night 3

Day 4

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Endgame

[Creature]

Rules

What you must know

• All general sitewide rules apply, you can read them here.
  
• No flaming, harassing or anything like that.
  
• Do not quote mod communications. Paraphrasing is allowed.
  
• Don't discuss this game elsewhere than where I say unless I declare this is over.
  
• Don't use encrypted or small/invisible texts.
  
• Don't pretend to break the rules either.
  
• Yellow
  is my color, refrain from using this.

Voting and Deadlines

Day

• Days will last 2 real life weeks (14 days), unless I decide to change.
  
• During the day, you may vote someone to lynch.

Spoiler:

VOTE: PlayerName

Code: Select all

[vote]PlayerName[/vote]

or

vote: PlayerName

Code: Select all

[b]vote: PlayerName[/b]

• You may also vote to end the day without a lynch (nolynch).
  
• The majority occurs when more than half the players votes someone (or nolynch).
  
• Once the player is lynched, he can still post in twilight. However, not after I flip them.
  
• If the deadline ends before a majority occurs, a nolynch will happen.

Night

• Nights will last 2 real life days (48 hours), unless I decide to change.
  
• If you have any active ability, you may PM me who you'll target or post in the Scum PT (if you're one).
  
• If you don't PM one within deadline, the default will be target no one.

Activity and Prods

• If you haven't posted in the thread after 48 hours, you'll receive a prod.
  
• If you still haven't posted after 24 hours, I'll search for your replacement.
  
• If you're prodded three times, I'll force-replace you.
  
• If you can't/is limited to post, you may announce V/LA. They must be made public.
  
• The more active you are, the most fun you'll have.

[Creature]

Game Setup

There are 6

Vanilla Townies

and 2

Mafia Goons

.
Mafia will have daytalk.
The first night will be skipped. As soon D1 lynch is decided, I'll flip the lynchee and D2 will immediatelly start.
Besides the first night, scum must kill every night.

During pregame, all players must submit two scumteam picks they want to

not

roll.
You can't include yourself.
You can't include the same player in two picks.

Correct:

Spoiler:

Player A picks:
- Player B + Player C
- Player D + Player E

Wrong:

Spoiler:

Player A picks:
- Player B + Player C
- Player A + Player B

Sample town role PM:

Spoiler:

Welcome, X. You are

Vanilla Town

.

You can vote during the day.

You win when both scum are dead.

Sample scum role PM:

Spoiler:

Welcome, X. You are

Mafia Goon

.

Your partner is Y, you can communicate with him/her anytime here.
Barring Night 1, every night you must submit a kill.

You win when mafia controls 50% of the vote or nothing can stop that from occuring.

[Creature]

Remember to send your picks.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-11-19 17:15:00)

[Creature]

Role PMs have been sent.
Awaiting 8 confirmations.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-11-21 17:00:00)

Also added sample role PMs at Game Setup section.

[Creature]

Day 1 has started

Votecount 1.0

Votecount 1.0

[0] Jaack
[0] ArcAngel9
[0] Gamma Emerald
[0] Secret Agent Jin
[0] Tenshii
[0] ProHawk
[0] Dunhallym
[0] ZZZX

[0] Nolynch

Not voting: Everybody

8 players are alive and 5 votes is needed to reach majority.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-12-03 16:00:00)

[ArcAngel9]

Oh mod that yellow hurts my eye.

VOTE: Creature

[Jaack]

VOTE: ZZZX

Multiple, unnecessary z's? My archnemesis!

I've been trying to come up with a reason why we shouldn't claim our unpicks from the start, but I can't. The best thing scum can do is try and copy someone else's picks. Even if they lie about their picks, the pair they give is still confirmed not to be the scumteam since they can't include themselves.

[Secret Agent Jin]

I still dont understand how this voting system works, do we vote for who we dont want to get lynched? In that case

VOTE: Jin

[ArcAngel9]

I still dont understand how this voting system works, do we vote for who we dont want to get lynched? In that case

VOTE: Jin

What? You vote the players you want to lynch. Night 1 doesn't exist. After the day1 ends, the day2 will auto start.

Didn't you choose Scumteam Unpick. You got into the game without understanding rules? Are you serious ?

[Tenshii]

VOTE: Creature

VOTE: ZZZX

I am town 1-shot double voter. Fortunately, I already found the scumteam. Also I think we should scumhunt first, then reveal unpicks later on.

[Tenshii]

Oh and the yellow is fine imo, Creature's tone is just scummy af.

[Secret Agent Jin]

I still dont understand how this voting system works, do we vote for who we dont want to get lynched? In that case

VOTE: Jin

What? You vote the players you want to lynch. Night 1 doesn't exist. After the day1 ends, the day2 will auto start.

Didn't you choose Scumteam Unpick. You got into the game without understanding rules? Are you serious ?

That was a joke RVS vote so that i could get this game on my post list.

[ZZZX]

VOTE: jaack OMGUS

Also I am tied in votes with the mod. FeelsZZZXMam

[Gamma Emerald]

ego
Why shouldn't we claim picks immediately?

[Secret Agent Jin]

There is one thing i am confused about. What exactly would posting our picks confirm? What would they tell us that would advance the game?

[Gamma Emerald]

There is one thing i am confused about. What exactly would posting our picks confirm? What would they tell us that would advance the game?

We can determine who can't be scum with someone.
At most we can eliminate 16 pairs (2*8 with no overlap)

[Secret Agent Jin]

I am for posting the picks then but wouldn't scum just lie about their posts to hide their teammate?

[Gamma Emerald]

When someone flips scum we can go through the WIFOM of guessing if they were lying.
For now it's best to MC picks IMO

[ZZZX]

yea I think scum cant lie about that since basically EVERY team they write is guaranteed to not contain both scum

[ZZZX]

but to avoid repeatition lets use a popcorn system and only reveal the FIRST part of the first pair. the goal is that if u see someone in you pair already there select some pair that doesnt include him if possible. but only write one person of the pair

I will explain it more indepth but i think thats the best option as scum will face problems fixing it

[Jaack]

Yeah scum can't lie in any beneficial way (to scum) as they can't claim their scum team. They can try and copy someone else's pair or they can try and pair their scumpartner with someone, but all the information they give to town is going to be factual.

As for how to claim it, I don't think we really NEED to make it too complicated, since if someone at the end of the line claims two picks that have already been claimed, it will reflect quite poorly on them. I'm fine with your method, ZZZX, if that's what we want to do, but I don't think it's totally necessary.

[Dunhallym]

There is one thing i am confused about. What exactly would posting our picks confirm? What would they tell us that would advance the game?

Have you really not given it any thoughts when you signed up for the game?

I've tried to think about when we should reveal, how, etc... In the end, I agree with Tenchii and think we should scumhunt first. For the start of the game, the pairs will only be informative if they allow to rule out someone, which I think is unlikely (I'm not that good with probabilities so I've not done the math here). However we should not wait for day end, so I think that giving the picks around the middle of day 1 would be the best option, as it still leaves time to discuss afterwards.
I also think it's highly unlikely that we will get 16 different picks. As such, ZZZX's system seems quite clever at first look but I fail to see how it will be better once we go in to give our pairs. Althoug I may miss something.
However I think that the order for reveals is important, Which is why scumhunting first can be interesting as the most suspected players can then speak first.

[Dunhallym]

VOTE: Prohawk
I summon thee.

[Gamma Emerald]

Dunhal raises a good point