Micro 479 — Lucid Dreamers — Game Over

[Serenity East November]

Spoiler:

Votecount 4.01

• (0) Ankamius
  —
  
  (0) Cthulhu Dreaming
  —
  
  (0) Guyett
  —
  
  (1) lufan131
  — Guyett
  
  (0) The Bulge
  —
  
  
  (4) Not Voting
  — Ankamius, Cthulhu Dreaming, lufan131, The Bulge
  
  With
  5 alive
  , it takes
  3 votes
  to lynch.
  
  Deadline is in
  (expired on 2015-07-06 15:45:00) (Mon Jul 6 @ 15:45:00 EST)
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  The Bulge
  is V/LA until
  Sat Jun 27 @ 16 EST
  .

[Ankamius]

um

[lufan131]

Yet another prod...

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

VOTE: lufan113

If I'm wrong, so be it.

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

Err...

VOTE: lufan131

[Ankamius]

VOTE: lufan131

[Serenity East November]

Spoiler:

Votecount 4.02

• (0) Ankamius
  —
  
  (0) Cthulhu Dreaming
  —
  
  (0) Guyett
  —
  
  (3) lufan131
  — Guyett, Cthulhu Dreaming, Ankamius
  
  (0) The Bulge
  —
  
  
  (2) Not Voting
  — lufan131, The Bulge
  
  With
  5 alive
  , it takes
  3 votes
  to lynch.
  
  Deadline is in
  (expired on 2015-07-06 15:45:00) (Mon Jul 6 @ 15:45:00 EST)
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  The Bulge
  is V/LA until
  Sat Jun 27 @ 16 EST
  .

[Serenity East November]

(Moonrise) Night 4 Begins

[Moonrise]

Night 4

begins now and ends in

(expired on 2015-06-27 13:30:00)

(Sat Jun 27 @ 13:30:00 EST)

.

Please note the timeline detailed in the second post; your 2 dreams

must be submitted

before this deadline.

[Serenity East November]

[Moonrise] Night 4 ends in just over 15 minutes. I will not be around then but I will be working on dreams tonight when I return.

[Serenity East November]

(Moonset) Night 4 Begins

[Moonset]

Night 4

began just over a day ago, and will end when it ends.

I am determining dream effects now; expect a PM sometime in the next 12 hours (tonight, EST).

[Serenity East November]

Still trying to finish this up today; trying to resolve some potential issues first. Thanks for your incredible patience throughout this whole ordeal.

[Serenity East November]

Almost done resolving the previously mentioned issue. Dream effects will likely not be sent out tonight, though.

[Serenity East November]

Night 4 Ends

Nothing is preventing the

Nightmares

from achieving their win condition!...

lufan131

was lynched

Night 4

. They were a

Dreamer

.

Cthulhu Dreaming

was endgamed

Night 4

. They were a

Dreamer

.

The Bulge

was endgamed

Night 4

. They were a

Dreamer

.

...

Ankamius

and

Guyett

,

Nightmares

, survived and won!

i only just realized now i've been using different colors from the role pms this whole time wow

[Serenity East November]

Mod PT (with all dreams+translations): http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=61884
Nightmare PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=61882
Dead PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=61883
Canadia PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=61960

First off, I need to say I'm so so sorry for how I ran this. It was a lot of improvisation and delaying, and it

kind of

definitely sucked the life out of this game.

What happened last night was that lufan was set to die by a delaying dream, and before translating the dreams myself I called upon caledfwitch and vettrock, who had volunteered to help with this specific kind of situation prior to the game starting, to translate Night 4's dreams without knowing submitter/alignments. The purpose of Night 4's dreaming phase was to see if any unbiased dream translations (or combinations of translations) could cause a situation where town could still win, and the reason it's ending now is because there was none possible.

I hate how this probably sounds, but this setup is really really hard to make both creative, non-straightforward, and unbiased at the same time. I don't think I plan to run this again in a non-marathon setting with "proper" dreams, but if I do, I think I would just do every Night what I had done for Night 4 - relay the dreams onto translators who had no idea who submitted what or what alignment each player was, but make it an official part of the process so as to minimize delays.

Anyway yeah. Most of this is on me for my translation delays causing a bunch of apathy and unnecessarily prolonging things. I'm really sorry about that, especially because I know some of you were really looking forward to this. I think though that this game can only really be played efficiently in a straightforward, dreams-are-literally-what-they-do manner, which a marathon setting helps to bring out.

[more comments later but lol this game, grats to ank and guyett]

[Guyett]

I'm not proud of this win tbh

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

Why oh why did I talk myself out of lynching you, Guyett.

[Guyett]

Because i'm great

[Guyett]

@marquis what would my first dream last night have achieved?

[Marquis]

all in the mod pt unless i forgot

[Ankamius]

I'm not proud of this win tbh

Same. The game was basically won because of apathy more than anything either of us did. I also kind of started only half-existing halfway through the game, so that didn't really help either.

[quadz08]