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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:01 pm

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Yeah, but tell me who you want and I'll propose it :)

I'm run down at work right now (Batman launch, give it a google and see how much shit has gone wrong).

I'm supporting a Mainez removal. Seems to have too much information, non-committally dropping scumreads, all that kind of stuff.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:49 am

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In post 248, Green Crayons wrote:
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as VC, can I propose a motion that is subject to my powers of bringing to the floor?

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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:18 am

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In post 172, Oman wrote:I don't like how harshly you reacted to Bulge's statements aimed at you, TTH. Calling it self serving drivel or the like (phone posting while visiting my folks) isn't valid.
It's an overreaction at least
. I think you're clouded by this "you are scum a day everything you say is lying manipulation" filter that you've set before your eyes. Bulge's comments to you could have been made by a townie, in innocence, though (from your perspective as a "confirmed town") mistaken.

How/Why?
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:54 am

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motion to remove The Bulge


i'll explain tomorrow, busy now.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:37 am

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In post 252, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 172, Oman wrote:I don't like how harshly you reacted to Bulge's statements aimed at you, TTH. Calling it self serving drivel or the like (phone posting while visiting my folks) isn't valid.
It's an overreaction at least
. I think you're clouded by this "you are scum a day everything you say is lying manipulation" filter that you've set before your eyes. Bulge's comments to you could have been made by a townie, in innocence, though (from your perspective as a "confirmed town") mistaken.

How/Why?

This is a pretty fair question, and I'm sorry that it took me this long to get to it.

I dislike it because it doesn't give me a tell, and it doesn't encourage a healthy game state. What happened is TTH had a comment made towards her, and she attacked back. The line "baseless, self-serving, speculative drivel" is inaccurate for the most part, and obvious on the rest. Of course it's baseless, it was mid-day-one. Of course it's speculative. This is mafia.

The reason I say it's an overreaction and not "omg scumtell" is because, yeah, I've seen town do this. There isn't a tell in here, it's just TTH being shitty that someone doesn't see the game the same way that she did. We saw an extension of that in how she reacted to me not nominating who she wants.


In a game about combative attitudes and defending ideas she threw a tantrum at the first sign of a defense and then took her ball and went home.

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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:00 am

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So, for clarification, you think Bulge's comments which incited TTH's response were baseless and speculative, but not alignment-indicative baseless and speculative?
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:19 am

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Yeah. More "there's fuck all information on the table" baseless and speculative. But TTH's reaction was more "QUESTIONING ME!?! MEEEEE!?!"
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:25 am

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Well, I do see a tenor of TTH mis-reacting to your criticism of her play, but I disagree with respect to TTH's reaction to Bulge.

I also disagree that Bulge's accusation was not valuable for alignment. I found Bulge's push on TTH to be confusing and not really logically coherent. Handwaving that as simply a "mid-day-one" case is an absurdly easy out that excuses suspicious play.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:46 am

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In post 162, The Bulge wrote:That's just the same as a FoS vs. an actual vote. FoS, gauge interest, then when you realize there isn't much, you pull an explanation out of your ass. I'm not saying it was a bad explanation in itself, I just don't think it was genuine. Not sure if that's necessarily scum-mindset but igmeou.



I dunno, this doesn't stand out to me as being anything really. Anything further into the game that's given you bad bulge vibes?
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:58 am

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I want to know why he wants to get rid of Dooku and Mainez.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:59 am

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In post 162, The Bulge wrote:I don't get why I'm getting shit for this when Flames has just as many posts as I do but with even less content. Just saying. [/deflection]

Putting a lampshade of the fact that he's deflecting doesn't make it any less suspicious. It just makes him self aware.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:36 am

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while a number have not posted in over 48 hours...

Bulge hasn't posted in close to 5 days...
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:39 am

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Done with planes, so I'll be around on my phone when I'm at the hotel.

nominate flames for ejection
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:50 am

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yea flames is a good choice too:
In post 149, Flames682 wrote:I will post later with some actual content.

In post 239, Flames682 wrote:Wow I have procrastinated a shit ton on this site lately. I will absolutely post tomorrow.


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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:50 am

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In post 261, Mainez wrote:while a number have not posted in over 48 hours...

Bulge hasn't posted in close to 5 days...

And you haven't told us yet why you want to remove Bulge...
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:06 am

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^This is what I was referring to:
In post 253, Mainez wrote:
motion to remove The Bulge


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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:08 am

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lol i can't remember why i wanted to remove Bulge, looks like it wasn't that strong of a reason but i remember reading his ISO and not liking it.

okay bad reasoning.

i think i'm more supportive of removing flames now.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:10 am

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In post 221, The Bulge wrote:I was with Oman and Count Dooku.

Mainez, you realize a "nay" is essentially a vote for No Lynch?

oh yes it was this.

i didn't like how he pointed out no lynch. to be honest, i didn't even realise that a nay is a no lynch until he pointed it out.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:20 am

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Flames is a lazy lynch. As in, oh wow this is a half-dead game trying to be resuscitated; I am shocked,
shocked
to learn that someone hasn't posted absolutely anything.

I won't be bringing a Flames vote to the floor.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:26 am

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Mainez is also a bad lynch for the reasons voiced in this thread. To point:

In post 243, Axxle wrote:
In post 240, Mainez wrote:Axxle and Bulge, pls kindly explain why you guys wanna remove me

Because you scum slipped with the no kill knowledge.

This suspicion will likely be disproven tonight, as I find it unlikely that this is a game lacking NKs.

We can revisit if there are no NKs for several consecutive nights, but using this as a justification for a D2 lynch is weaksauce.


In post 250, Oman wrote:I'm supporting a Mainez removal. Seems to have too much information,
non-committally dropping scumreads
, all that kind of stuff.

Meh. This is pretty fluff. Care to actually put some substance to this?


I most likely won't be bringing a Mainez vote to the floor.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:27 am

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@Mod:
what's the situation with a Flames prod/replacement?
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:32 am

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I personally think Dooku isn't a bad candidate, but I'm not sure if he is the best. I am favoring Bulge. I am open to anything that has been more persuasive than the nothing that I've seen so far.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:53 am

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i agree that flames is a lazy lynch.

bulge is probably the best choice.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:13 am

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In post 268, Green Crayons wrote:Flames is a lazy lynch. As in, oh wow this is a half-dead game trying to be resuscitated; I am shocked,
shocked
to learn that someone hasn't posted absolutely anything.

I won't be bringing a Flames vote to the floor.

I didn't actually want to lynch him, I just wanted to light a fire under his butt. Too late now I guess.

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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:15 am

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If have to reread dooku tbh.
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