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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:28 am

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In post 348, GuiltyLion wrote:Oath who do you think is scum


Does it matter now

Anyways scummiest dwlee

Occam's razor states jmo is town
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:42 pm

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There are 4 active players.
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Majority has been reached.


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There are 3 active players.

Spoiler: Current player list
[1]
Dwlee99

[2]
jmo16mla

[3] lane0168 -
citizen
- Ate a poisoned sandwich. [1]

[4]
GuiltyLion

[5] Mirhawk -
terrorist
- Lynched.

[6] Lowell -
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- Shot once. [1]

[7] SarasaKat -
citizen
- Drowned in a sea of gummybears. [1]

[8] N e s s -
citizen
- Shot once. [1]

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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:59 pm

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By the way; if all 3 of you prefer a shorter nightphase, let me know. Get your actions in, or if you don't want to take action, I'd appreciate a "no action" PM.

Edit:
I have all the PMs I need. If it weren't for the fact I was about to go to bed, I could end it now, but I'm tired, and I want to do all the proper formatting ;). Write-up ready tomorrow at midnight CET, but probably earlier.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:51 am

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"I don't care which one, they've got to die."

"I'll let him take care of the rest."

"Shit.. Who do I shoot? I think he's the scumnag.."

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[1] Dwlee99 -
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[2] jmo16mla -
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[3] lane0168 -
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- Ate a poisoned sandwich. [1]

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[5] Mirhawk -
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- Lynched.

[6] Lowell -
citizen
- Shot once. [1]

[7] SarasaKat -
citizen
- Drowned in a sea of gummybears. [1]

[8] N e s s -
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- Shot once. [1]

[9] oath2order -
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- Lynched.


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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:00 am

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First of all, some questions:

- Most importantly, did you guys have
fun?

- I'm not that worried by the balance, though I think it would have helped the terrorists if I didn't disclose the actual ratio (just like when I originally ran it off-site), regardless of which ratio I'd have chosen. Some more paranoia would have helped. Any thoughts of your own on balance?
- With the first game, I considered listing the victims of anyone killed in the write-up. Would you have liked this info?

Anyway, like mentioned, I ran this game first on another site, where we are much more casual than here (which is why you probably won't actually see me playing here anytime soon). I wanted to try modding something more hardcore there, back then I thought this was the kind of thing that would go over well here too, with practically no info. Now I know better, but I still was curious if there would be interest anyway, and if you'd match my expectations. With a day 1 scumnag lynch, I'd say you definitely did. But I thought Dwlee surviving night 1 was pretty miraculous, haha.

Anyway, the original game had a 9-4 ratio. 3 terrorists were killed on day 1, with 2 of them shooting each other. The last terrorist managed to secure a victory anyway by acting the pacifist.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:03 am

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Actions


Night 1

N e s s
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Dwlee99
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N e s s
// no flavour

Lowell
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SarasaKat
// drowning in gummybears

oath2order
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jmo16mla
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Lowell
// no flavour


Night 2

Dwlee99
kills
jmo16mla
// blown up with fireworks

GuiltyLion
kills
Dwlee99
// no flavour

jmo16mla
performs no action.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:11 am

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Nice job jmo! Happy I didn't shoot you for sure.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:13 am

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I thought I was dead for sure lane! Lol

I was shocked when I saw that I was alive.

I'm much better at this game after flips. Day one has never been my strong suit.

I've got to give it to guilty lion seeing that no lynching wasn't the optimal situation. I wouldn't have seen that without him.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:15 am

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I was playing like a serial killer not knowing my partners. Idk how reads were really possible but I guess you guys caught me lol
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:21 am

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Oath was really town towards the end and I wanted you lynched instead but no one hopped on. So I had to go back to oath.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:03 am

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oh man Dwlee your and almost _almost_ had me change my mind. I think you played very well D1/D2 (I had you as a solid townread D1), you just got unlucky that jmo towned it up to a sufficient degree that I couldn't convince myself he was scum. Well done by jmo.

Also I think Lowell played very well in D1, calling out mirhawk as assertively as he did. Made it easy to sheep him :]

Smeagol, I had a ton of fun. Thank you for modding!

I think 6-3 would probably be slightly more balanced, or at least it would be better undisclosed to create that paranoia. Flipping a terrorist D1 and knowing it was 7-2 made me feel like we were very likely to win, especially once I realized we could effectively do LYLO twice by lynching and then shooting at night as well.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:05 am

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Achievements


Dwlee99
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Riddles in the dark
/
String 'm up
/
Prod dodge
/
Here to stay
/
Headshot
/
Double kill

jmo16mla
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Riddles in the dark
/
Nifty fifty
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Hammer time
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Prod dodge
/
Here to stay
/
Victorious

lane0168
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Riddles in the dark
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Hammer time
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String 'm up
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Prod dodge
/
Here to stay
/
Late to the party
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Victorious

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Riddles in the dark
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String 'm up
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Prod dodge
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Here to stay
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Victorious
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Match winning kill
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Headshot
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Avenger

Mirhawk
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Riddles in the dark
/
Prod dodge
/
Here to stay

Lowell
-
Riddles in the dark
/
String 'm up
/
Prod dodge
/
Here to stay
/
Victorious

SarasaKat
-
Riddles in the dark
/
Here to stay
/
Victorious

N e s s
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Riddles in the dark
/
Nifty fifty
/
String 'm up
/
Prod dodge
/
Here to stay
/
Victorious
/
First blood

oath2order
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Riddles in the dark
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Nifty fifty
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Prod dodge
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Here to stay
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Victorious


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Riddles in the dark
- Thanks for partaking in a game by me, Sméagol!
// post (can't replace out)

Nifty Fifty
- Make 50 posts.
// public

Hammer time
- Hammer a lynch.
// public

Living on the edge
- Got to L-1, yet got to live another day.
// public

String 'm up
- Succesfully lynch someone not from your faction.
// post

Prod dodge
- Never been prodded.
// post

Here to stay
- Never replaced out.
// post

Late to the party
- Thanks for replacing in!
// public

Victorious
- Winner of Micro 588!
// post

I am error
- Pointed out a mistake the mod made! How dare you.
// public


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First blood
- Get the first kill in HRHR
// private (must be nightkill)

Match winning kill
- Get the last, game ending kill in HRHR
// post (must be nightkill)

Headshot
- Succesfully kill someone of an opposing faction
// post (must be nightkill)

Double kill
- Succesfully kill two players of an opposing faction
// post (must be nightkill)

Avenger
- Succesfully kill someone of the opposing faction, who has killed someone of your faction
// post (must be nightkill)


I believe these are correct. These were a last-minute addition, though I've thought about including these for a long time. Haven't made icons for most of them unfortunately, maybe I will later.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:08 am

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also oath there was a reason I asked you who you thought was scum, I valued your input, that actually made me slightly more swayed to shoot Dwlee

also Smeagol the achievements are a nice touch. I'll wear my 'match winning kill' badge proudly :cool:
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:08 am

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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:09 am

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I was hoping you would change your mind about me lol
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:19 am

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In post 360, GuiltyLion wrote:
Smeagol, I had a ton of fun. Thank you for modding!

I think 6-3 would probably be slightly more balanced, or at least it would be better undisclosed to create that paranoia. Flipping a terrorist D1 and knowing it was 7-2 made me feel like we were very likely to win, especially once I realized we could effectively do LYLO twice by lynching and then shooting at night as well.

Thanks!

Yeah, in hindsight, I shouldn't have asked, and I should've decided myself, but it doesn't matter too much. I'll keep it in mind for next time, if there's going to be a next time. I won't run a second (or third actually) iteration of this game any time soon. Maybe I'll do it as a mini theme game one day, so I can use 12 or 13 players, and then I can leave the exact ratio up in the air.
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:12 am

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Achievements are always fun!
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:55 pm

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In post 354, Sméagol wrote:First of all, some questions:

- Most importantly, did you guys have
fun?

- I'm not that worried by the balance, though I think it would have helped the terrorists if I didn't disclose the actual ratio (just like when I originally ran it off-site), regardless of which ratio I'd have chosen. Some more paranoia would have helped. Any thoughts of your own on balance?
- With the first game, I considered listing the victims of anyone killed in the write-up. Would you have liked this info?

Anyway, like mentioned, I ran this game first on another site, where we are much more casual than here (which is why you probably won't actually see me playing here anytime soon). I wanted to try modding something more hardcore there, back then I thought this was the kind of thing that would go over well here too, with practically no info. Now I know better, but I still was curious if there would be interest anyway, and if you'd match my expectations. With a day 1 scumnag lynch, I'd say you definitely did. But I thought Dwlee surviving night 1 was pretty miraculous, haha.

Anyway, the original game had a 9-4 ratio. 3 terrorists were killed on day 1, with 2 of them shooting each other. The last terrorist managed to secure a victory anyway by acting the pacifist.


I had fun for my first game here.

Especially since I had to be serious instead of shit-post.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:13 pm

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Oath was incredibly scummy, just going to say real fast.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:39 pm

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In post 368, N e s s wrote:Oath was incredibly scummy, just going to say real fast.


Yet you didn't push for my lynch.

Or shoot me.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:25 pm

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He's got a point.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:30 pm

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I thought Oath was doing well enough day 2, but what do I know.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:58 pm

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In post 369, oath2order wrote:
In post 368, N e s s wrote:Oath was incredibly scummy, just going to say real fast.


Yet you didn't push for my lynch.

Or shoot me.

I was considering shooting you tbh

your d1 was weird
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:04 pm

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In post 371, Sméagol wrote:I thought Oath was doing well enough day 2, but what do I know.

He was. As I said earlier, I thought oath was town toward the end of the day. But I wasn't about to try to turn the wagon all the way around when we had already won the game.. Maybe I should have done that.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:58 pm

Post by Lowell »

GG all. Brilliant move by guilty and jmo there on day 2.

But in other news, wtf jmo in killing me! I found the terrorist and townslipped.... I figured I wouldn't survive the night, but to be killed by town? Ouch!
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