NY 178 Neighborhood -- Anen, Boonskiies, Shiro, Iz, gm

[Aegor]

Welcome to your corner of the Masquerade! You may post here during night.

[Boonskiies]

Hey, all.

[goodmorning]

So, anyone want to claim Scum so we can get that out of the way?

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Anenien

Let's say that actually counted, how would you react?

[Aneninen]

Hi all; hi again, Goodmorning, Boonskiies!

Soooooooooo, Boonskiies,

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!

And don't tell me that you're surprised now.

[Boonskiies]

So...this is like some kind of slumber party, ayyy? We get to stay up all night and gossip.

So...who is y'all's secret crush?

[Aneninen]

My Goddess ^_^ And yours?
(And it's 2pm here. Afterwork rest is coming.)

[Cho]

I'm a Mafia 2-Shot Even-Night Bulletproof Vigilante.

[Boonskiies]

Uh...

[Cho]

Close your mouth; you'll catch flies.

[Boonskiies]

Hey, guys. I'm a protective role. Just to let you know.

[goodmorning]

So I actually forgot who my neighbours were.

And I forgot Shiro replaced Cho.
Getting townvibes off both is therefore probably a good thing.

[Shiro]

How did u get townvibes I mean cho had 0 posrs xD

But in anycase since we are the biggest neighburhood there is a good chance there is scum here right ?

[Aneninen]

We can't be sure about that, Shiro. We know nothing about the setup, I mean, the Neighbourhoods can be randomized both before and after the other roles.

Boonskiies could be town, I think.
As for Shiro, I know nothing. Cho was strange and I don't know what to think.
Goodmorning – well, I'd be surprised but I can't rule that out.
So, if we do have a scum here, the best bet is Izariael. If you're reading this, you really should explain your case against Scripten.

As for me, I'm town, even if some of you don't believe it.
The game is forking whether we have a multiball or not (depends on the amount of kills). If it's a multiball, scum-vs-scum fights are possible too. I wouldn't be surprised if both Axel and TSO would be scums in different teams. If not, we should focus on those who were just jumping on wagons without real arguments and or tunnelling players regardless of their posts. In the latter case, Garmr is very suspicious. Maybe Muffin too.
I don't think Thor is scum. His overdone tunnelling would be toooo suspicious if he were scum. However, if it's a multiball, he may be.

By the way, do you want to know why I stopped producing real posts? It's true on the other hand, that I can't pay attention to 20 players. But, I noticed that whatever I do it produces a lot of noise. TSO and Garmr plays the Regardless of Card against me over and over and Axel's relentless tunnelling on TSO is not better either. There were some naked and unexplained votes too. Check it out: whenever I was away, there were much more contentful posts.
This phenomenon is not unique to my state. The whole PeregrineV-hystery was similar and the more I waited the less sure I was about my scumread on him. Scripten is a similar case too, maybe Goodmorning as well.

[Boonskiies]

I can't focus at all on large games. I already have bad day 1 reads in minis. If I survive, I'll be much better use to town.

[goodmorning]

How did u get townvibes I mean cho had 0 posrs xD

But in anycase since we are the biggest neighburhood there is a good chance there is scum here right ?

Cho was playing like Cho plays as Town. Also, of the posts Cho did post, some posts scream Town pretty loudly.
That said, I really didn't like the Neighbourhood outings, but I pretty unconditionally hate outing shit like that D1.

It is likely but not certain. Indeed, some mods deliberately create large all-Town neighbourhoods because the paranoia is funny to watch, or because they have an established mod meta of Scum in neighbourhoods and want to break it.

Boonskiies could be town, I think.
As for Shiro, I know nothing. Cho was strange and I don't know what to think.
Goodmorning – well, I'd be surprised but I can't rule that out.
So, if we do have a scum here, the best bet is Izariael. If you're reading this, you really should explain your case against Scripten.

If you're not sure about anyone really, why does that make Izariael most likely Scum?

The game is forking whether we have a multiball or not (depends on the amount of kills). If it's a multiball, scum-vs-scum fights are possible too. I wouldn't be surprised if both Axel and TSO would be scums in different teams. If not, we should focus on those who were just jumping on wagons without real arguments and or tunnelling players regardless of their posts. In the latter case, Garmr is very suspicious. Maybe Muffin too.

TSO isn't Scum, and Garmr really really isn't Scum. Muffin seems less likely to be Scum than he did earlier in the game.

I don't think Thor is scum. His overdone tunnelling would be toooo suspicious if he were scum. However, if it's a multiball, he may be.

If you have time, read NY169.

Thor posted 90% of the posts for the hydra "Casso the King of Seals."
A lot of his posting there is similar, he takes hard stances, he plays however he feels like playing. Thor is

very very

good at playing Scum.
Despite me doing literally the same thing then as I'm doing now (but as a Mason) and despite being scumread by Cabd, who was fucking conftown even, they weren't lynched til D9. I was right then, and I'm pretty confident I'm right now.

By the way, do you want to know why I stopped producing real posts? It's true on the other hand, that I can't pay attention to 20 players. But, I noticed that whatever I do it produces a lot of noise. TSO and Garmr plays the Regardless of Card against me over and over and Axel's relentless tunnelling on TSO is not better either. There were some naked and unexplained votes too. Check it out: whenever I was away, there were much more contentful posts.
This phenomenon is not unique to my state. The whole PeregrineV-hystery was similar and the more I waited the less sure I was about my scumread on him. Scripten is a similar case too, maybe Goodmorning as well.

I think if you post more concisely and make clear what you're responding to, your posts will go down a bit better.
Anyway, Pere was clearly Town and I don't know why everyone thought his wagon was oh-so-great.

[Shiro]

I didn't think it was oh great but between pere and anen I prefered Pere. Pere was right the stale mood thor and he created would have had bad infulence on day 2.

I dunno it might be newbie me getting totally fooled by thor but I cannot see him as scum as of right now :/

At some point I was pretty sold on Muffin being maf but yea he warmed up after mid day. Dunno if that means he got more serious or is initial lazy town.

GM Why are u so sure about TSO ? His posting hasn't been all that impressive. Meta ?

[goodmorning]

It is true to say that that bad atmosphere was being created between them. But who created it?

Like I said, Thor's quite good at Scum and you're quite new to Larges. I have no hard feelings about anyone disagreeing with me on Thor.

I wouldn't know, I've never played with Muffin.

Meta.

[Shiro]

Hmm true thor was the one that created that mood. You think it was intentional ?

[goodmorning]

With Thor, who knows? It's within the realm of possibility.

[Aneninen]

@Goodmorning. Izariael is a possibility because I think his Scripten case was pretty much nothing. (If he explains I may change my mind.) TSO might be meh-I-don't-know but Garmr is very-FoS. Why do you think they're town? As for Thor, I'll keep in mind what you said. Especially since I think Thor was over-doing this whole PeregrineV-case.

@Goodmorning+Shiro – I think it was mostly Thor and TSO who created the current atmosphere of the game.

Where is Izariael anyway?

[Shiro]

Dunno. It kind of gives me bad vibes that he hasnt talked at all

[Izariael]

Izariael. If you're reading this, you really should explain your case against Scripten.

I still don't understand how this case got so contorted. Several people (Muffin, Thor and Scripten to name a few) seemed to think my scumread was because of *HOW* he was wording his reads. It really had nothing to do with that.

I was scumreading Scripten because he threw out the most bare bone reads possible and thought it was good enough. There was no transparency. Like, okay, so Cho feels like scum. What am I suposed to do with that feeling?.

If he had taken the time to explain why he felt that Cho was scum or what it was that shebhad done to make him feel icky, I probably wouldn't have voted for him. Fact of the matter is that he didn't and now we're here, where people are misconstruing my scumread as some sort of semantics argument about the definitons of his words or whatever bullshit there was about it.

[Izariael]

Also, despite attempting to clarify that my case on Scripten wasn't because of his word choice (between 368 and 656), both he and Thor continued to assert that it was based on pedantics and was fishing for favor by using fancy "buzzwords"... When I brought this whole issue up, it was really the first time anyone had really mentioned Scripten. His reaction was to say I was fishing for towncred rather than expand on his reads that I had called flimsy.

You may also note that my Thor vote post (1875) followed a very similar pattern to Scripten's 362. I'd been hoping to elicit some reaction to it, but I don't know that I saw what I was aiming for. I think I added too much in the middle... it wasn't bare bones enough to see the similarity probably.

My question to Thor there at the bottom of 1875 was for two reasond:
1. To call attention to how shitty his read list was. Like seriously what was that? He may as well have just put "newb/null/scum: the entire town that isn't agreeing with me"
2. To pinpoint a suspicion I had that he was discrediting my scumread on Scripten earlier in the day because he defined a "committed" read differently than I do. His reaction to the post seemed odd, given that answering my question honestly would be the obvious answer.

[Izariael]

Hey, guys. I'm a protective role. Just to let you know.

.... you don't say. I had no idea you could possibly have a protective role. You were so tight-lipped about it all day!