- You have 48 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if 8 people confirm. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
Days
- Days last slightly less than 14 days. Extensions will be granted if there are replacements.
Activity
- You must post at least once every 48 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. Saturday and Sunday count as a single day for activity purposes, so if you post on Friday and again on Monday you won't be prodded. If you are prodded on Friday then you'll have until Sunday to post. If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare
V/LA
in bold in the thread like this: [
b]
@Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday
[
/b].
Lynching
- Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to lynch somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no lynch, the day will end without a lynch. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no lynch.
Voting
- Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Plotinus or
Vote: Plotinus
. Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type [
v]Plotinus[
/v] to vote and [
uv]Plotinus[
/uv] to unvote.
Quoting
- You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
Twilight
- Lasts until I lock the thread: usually at the next pagetop. Later if I was afk, sooner if the flipped person requests it. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then.
Night
- Night last slightly less than 48 hours.
Action submissions
- You may submit actions via PM or PT. If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing that night. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
Reminders
- If I don't hear from you about your night actions, I'll PM you 24 hours before the deadline. This doesn't count as a prod. If I still don't hear from you, you will take no action.
Play to Win
- and have fun!
Spoiler: Post 2 - important setup information
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Spoiler: post 3 - randomising roles yay
Vörös bort ittam az este, ragyogó csillagom, galambom.
Most is részeg vagyok tőle, ragyogó csillagom, galambom.
A lábamon alig-alig állok, mégis szeretnek a lányok,
Ragyogó csillagom, galambom.
I drank red wine tonight, my shining star, my dove.
I'm still drunk from it, my shining star, my dove.
I can barely stand on my feet, still the girls love me,
My shining star, my dove.
Songs for votecounts (mostly go in order but songs that are marked on this list as "hallgató" or "andalgó" are good for death scenes because they are quieter/sadder and songs marked "friss csárdás" and "csárdás" and "gyors csárdás" are good for day start because they're up beat and happy. Clicking on the picture of the book gets the lyrics but if that's too much work then it's okay to just put the video and i'll put the lyrics later. You probably won't need to do vote counts though.
Lakodalom van a mi utcánkban,
férjhez megy a falu legszebb lánya,
hivatalos vagyok oda én is,
nem mennék el, ha százszor üzennék is.
Vége van már a lakodalomnak,
nagy bánata van a menyasszonynak,
forgatja a karikagyűrűjét,
sajnálja a régi szeretőjét.
There's a wedding feast on our street,
The village's most beautiful girl is getting married,
I'm invited to there too,
I wouldn't go even if they announced it a hundred times.
The wedding feast is over now,
The bride has a big sorrow,
She twists her round ring,
She misses her old lover.
Welcome
XXXX
and
YYYY
!
Daytalk
: You can talk here
whenever you want (pregame, day, night)
!
Quoting
: You can directly quote anything
from
the public thread
into
this PT. You may not directly quote
from
this PT
into
anywhere (except for posts written by you and clearly drafted with the intent to be later posted in the main thread by you).
Role PMs
: Your role PMs and the role PMs of your enemies are pasted below.
Have fun!
Sample role PMs:
Spoiler: Mafia Role PMs AKA YOU GUYS <3
Spoiler: Town Role PMs AKA THE ENEMY
Playerlist:
SZU
Bluebird
Freshmaniscoolman
Dizzy
Kim
Witch_Hunter
Belisarius (SE)
Smudger (SE)
hiplop (IC)
Current deadline (start of day 1): (expired on 2016-01-08 14:00:00).
People with access to this topic: Plotinus, Marquis
Last edited by Plotinus on Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:02 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Drága Isten szépen kérlek
Aranyeső hulljon nékem
Aranyeső a virágos réten.
Aranyeső a szép kis házra
Aranyeső a családomra
Jajj, ha meghalok.
Aranyeső a szép kis házra
Aranyeső a családomra
Jajj, temera.
Azt hiszitek jó kedvem van,
Pedig a szívem gyászba van
Pedig a szívem gyászba van jaj.
Gyászba is lessz amíg élek
Míg a sírba le nem tesznek jaj,
Én meghalok.
Gyászba is lesz amíg élek
Míg a sírba le nem tesznek jaj,
Ha meghalok.
Dear God I ask you nicely
Let laburnum flowers fall for me
Laburnum onto the flowery meadow.
Laburnum onto the pretty little house
Laburnum onto my family
Oh, when I die.
Laburnum onto the pretty little house
Laburnum onto my family
Oh, let me hear it.
You think I'm in a good mood,
But my heart is in mourning
But my heart is in mourning, oh.
It will be in mourning as long as I live
Until they put me down into the grave oh,
I'll die.
It will be in mourning as long as I live
Until they put me down into the grave oh,
when I die.
Sorry, you died No spoilers, please.
People with access to this topic: Plotinus, Marquis
Last edited by Plotinus on Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:06 pm, edited 3 times in total.
I think rule 10 might not be needed, it's more of a thing in games with a ton of neighbourhoods in them. I tried to remove the neighbourhood stuff from it and I'm not sure how well I succeeded.
rules 11 and 12 might be too abnormal and need to be removed?
also the fallback kill rule is also probably not okay? I stole it from Ether because inactivity nokills are lame.
I think rules 10, 11, and 12 aren't needed, yeah - those work well in themes or even normals but right now let's keep it to the basics. Newbie Games provide a stepping point for what players can expect from most mods. Like, it's great you're offering those but until it becomes site standard it's best to keep it out of Newbies.
Fallback rule is also cool in more unique games, but shouldn't exist here. Inactivity is on the scum team to avoid, or try to use to their roleclaim-related advantage should it happen.
That's what I thought, thanks. I removed 11 and 12 and changed 10 to "You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication."
I should probably have something outlawing provable randomness and cryptography?
The PTs otherwise look great. The additional playerlists and deadline there are helpful, if you're willing to commit to all the updating - nothing I can see in the scum or dead PT (besides the previously mentioned rules) that shouldn't be there.
As for votecount posts, it might be more of a personal thing, but I don't think using gradients within the votecount itself is the best idea? Just when people are quoting VCs and highlighting alignment colors, for newbies that'll be a lot of BBcode to work around. Gradients in the flavortext and below the
In post 6, Plotinus wrote:That's what I thought, thanks. I removed 11 and 12 and changed 10 to "You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication."
Nice yeah, an all-encompassing rule here is best :)
In post 6, Plotinus wrote:I should probably have something outlawing provable randomness and cryptography?
Yeah, as far as I know "no provable randomness" is site standard so it'd be a good idea.
As for cryptography, not sure how you mean it specifically - I know scum in Newbie games like to do the whole "if I post this word first, this is what I mean" when there's no daytalk, but that won't really apply here assuming the daytalk test is still in effect.
In post 0, Plotinus wrote:48 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement, 24 hour weekends
oh last thing, maybe elaborate on this? Prods aren't commonplace on other sites so a short explanation of the inactivity system would be helpful. (also, not sure what you mean by weekends - is this a standard thing?)
I've kept the playerlist and deadline updated in the scum PT in the other games i've modded okay. In singleball I colour the names red and green but in multiball i'll just colour their own faction's names, and then when someone dies I cross their name out with [
s]Plotinus[
/s]. It's just when I'm scum I always want that copied into the PT
anyway
and as a mod I want it to be really hard for them to forget who their buddy is.
That's a good point about gradients in the votecount itself. This would be the first game I'm using it in (my old mod colour was
this one which is ugly in PTs
.)
pedit: breadcrumbing stuff is okay, I meant more like hard cryptography. In my first offsite game we used RSA keys to encrypt our night actions and night results, forcing the scumteam to pick their fakeclaims and stuff really early and it just made everything tedious and unfun for everyone but the geekiest of geeks and it wasn't really mafia anymore.
pedit: the weekend thing is that saturday and sunday count as a single day for prod purposes, so if someone posts on friday and again on monday they don't get prodded. I know ffery does it and I think Equinox does it too.
Re 24hr weekend: Oh yeah that's cool, thought it was like "24 hours until a prod on weekends" for some reason (even though that doesn't really make sense lol)
Oh yeah then that cryptography rule would be a good idea.
- You must post at least once every 48 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. Saturday and Sunday count as a single day for activity purposes, so if you post on Friday and again on Monday you won't be prodded. If you are prodded on Friday then you'll have until Sunday to post. If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare
If a player hammers and I'm around but you aren't, would you rather have me 1) lock the thread and post the flip, 2) lock the thread and wait for you to post the flip, or 3) let them have Twilight until you arrive (unless you're on official V/LA or told me to close up otherwise)? I guess same question for cases when deadline hits without a lynch, too.
I usually let them have twilight until pagetop, and they figure it out eventually that they can either talk seriously for a while or they can spam silly stuff if they want thread lock to happen sooner. In my mini normal anti posted twilight fanfic to get a pagetop ready for me. Sometimes they use the time to talk seriously about their reads instead. I lock the thread when the next post will be a pagetop (or if I miss that then I lock it as soon as I can after that), so I guess if I'm not around and there has been a hammer, let them have the rest of the page and then lock the thread.
If there's a no lynch because they missed the deadline then I guess we should just lock the thread right away.
I'll probably have a "next flip" post in here with code tags so it'll be easy to grab.
I always set deadline to 1pm GMT because that way Australia doesn't have to stay up too late after their bedtimes and America can get up early if they want to. That's about 9pm in Perth and midnight in Sydney, and it's 5am in California and 8am in new york so I think it's the time of day that's most likely to work for everybody (and it's 2pm for me).
And then daystart is at 8am GMT which is 4-7pm in Australia and midnight to 3am in America, so America might still be awake for it and europe is just waking up and Australia is just getting off work.
I probably put too much thought into this timezone thing but my mini normal was evenly split across the continents (3 europe, 3 america, 3 australia, and 4 unknown) and I tried to pick something that would work for everybody.
Added "Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment." to the town PMs and "
Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting your PT." to the scum PMs because I didn't realise until now that the default PMs don't specify how to confirm. (didn't edit the ones in here but the ones in post 2 in the main thread)
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Eresz alatt fecskefészek, fecskemadár sírva nézlek.
Te voltál itt a múlt nyáron, nem hagytál el mint a párom.
Látlak-e még fecskemadár? Lesz-e tavasz, lesz-e még nyár?
Ha én akkor már nem élek, azért nálunk rakjál fészket.
Under the eaves a swallow nest, swallow bird I look at you while crying.
You were here last summer, you didn't leave me like my partner.
Will I see you again, swallow bird? Will there be spring, will there be another summer?
If I'm not alive then, make a nest at your house anyway.
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but if that's too much work then it's okay to just put the video and i'll put the lyrics later. You probably won't need to do vote counts though. 
No spoilers, please.
