Mini 1798: Dead Thread

[Micc]

Welcome to the dead thread for Mini 1798! Full spoiler is below. If there's interest in a non-spoiled discussion thread let me know. Otherwise feel free to spoil away.

Spoiler: Card distribution

Player	Alignment Card	Ability Card	Role
Radical Rat	Mafia Seer	Mafia One-Shot Dayvig	Mafia One-Shot Dayvig
Fate	Miller	Conspiracy Theorist	Town Conspiracy Theorist
Katsuki	Mafia Goon	Lover	Mafia Lover
iraonavp	Cop Lover	Mafia Goon	Vanilla Townie
SirCakez	Lynchbait	Mason Lover	Town Mason Lover
RadiantMoonlight	Jack-of-all-trades	Mafia Compulsive Hider	Town Compulsive Hider
Alchemist21	Parrot Role	Bulletproof Townie	Town Bulletproof
123456789	Lyncher (target below)	One-Shot Dayvig	Lyncher One-Shot Dayvig
massive	Vanilla Townie	Seer	Town Seer
House	Mason	Werewolf Cop	Town Cop
Ranger	Bloodhound	Mafia Lover	Town Lover
DoctorPepper	Mafia Strongman	Vengeful Townie	Mafia Vengeful
Yume	Mafia One-Shot Governor	Alien Silencer	Mafia Silencer

Spoiler: Discards

Player	Discard
Radical Rat	Bodyguard
Fate	Compulsive Child Killer
Katsuki	Innocent Child
iraonavp	Werewolf
SirCakez	Mafia Goon
RadiantMoonlight	Mafia Godfather
Alchemist21	Alien Mass Redirector
123456789	Werewolf Roleblocker
massive	Werewolf
House	One-Shot Gladiator
Ranger	Werewolf Supersaint
DoctorPepper	Mafia Fruit Vendor
Yume	Werewolf One-Shot Paranoid Gun Owner

[Micc]

Spoiler: Night 1

Night 1 Actions:

Radiant Moonlight (Town Compulsive Hider) targets SirCakez - successfully hidden
Katsuki (Mafia Nightkill) targets Radiant Moonlight - fails
House (Town Cop) targets iraonavp - receives "NOT GUILTY"
Fate (Town Conspiracy Theorist) targets Alchemist21 - receives "NOT GUILTY"
massive (Town Seer) targets Radical Rat - receives "NOT GUILTY"

[123456789]

Interesting.... Looks like town is on the right track.

[123456789]

I'm not opposed to lynching Fate, but I'm not done with RM yet.

The day has only just begun, we don't need to worry about who's swinging yet.

VOTE: Radical Rat

When is the proper time for caring who swings?

Once the discussion of the day has been taken care of.

At any rate, I'm at L-1, so let's get this out of the way.
I am a Mafia One-shot Dayvig. Mafia was taken from Mafia Seer.
Fate is NOT my scumbuddy, but I do suspect that slot is scum.
There is at least one Vengeful on our team, so lynch carefully.

Last, but not least...

Kill: House

......I dunno.... I think it was a bad idea for Radical to out they had a vengeful.....

[House]

If I was Katsuki, is have chosen IC as the ability just to screw with the mod.

They should have kept me around, I wouldn't have checked their buddies and I was bad wrong about everybody else.

[House]

RR played his role terribly, btw.

If I was him, I'd have claimed dayvig and shot Fate, then said the case on me was flimsy.

Shooting the other, heavily suspected player would be seen as working with town and undermined the case.

[Radical Rat]

Yeah, well, Hindsight is 20/20.

You knew what you were doing so I saw you as a threat and felt like you should be taken out of the equation.

[Radical Rat]

I'm not opposed to lynching Fate, but I'm not done with RM yet.

The day has only just begun, we don't need to worry about who's swinging yet.

VOTE: Radical Rat

When is the proper time for caring who swings?

Once the discussion of the day has been taken care of.

At any rate, I'm at L-1, so let's get this out of the way.
I am a Mafia One-shot Dayvig. Mafia was taken from Mafia Seer.
Fate is NOT my scumbuddy, but I do suspect that slot is scum.
There is at least one Vengeful on our team, so lynch carefully.

Last, but not least...

Kill: House

......I dunno.... I think it was a bad idea for Radical to out they had a vengeful.....

The thought process there was to get the Town afraid to lunch us. Not everyone is willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good of the Town, and pointing out the Vengeful was designed to capitalize on that.

[123456789]

Town will lynch scum with kills 100% of the time given a choice.

[House]

Yeah, well, Hindsight is 20/20.

You knew what you were doing so I saw you as a threat and felt like you should be taken out of the equation.

My reads were terribad outside of my mechanics read on Yume and backtracking her posts for associatives which is the first time I've ever come close to an accurate association.

I'm glad you vigged me instead of Ranger because she's far more dangerous to your team than I.

[Radical Rat]

You're probably right, but she has been really quiet, so hopefully she won't be a problem.

I definitely should have handled the Yume situation better, but I was only half-reading her posts because why worry about my scumbuddies? No reason to be scrutinizing my own team's posts, right? But that decision came back to bite me in the ass, and I can accept that. Good on you for catching it, frustrating though it may be.

[House]

You're probably right, but she has been really quiet, so hopefully she won't be a problem.

She will probably be going after Katsuki next, especially with the threesome remaining alive for two nights.

She read you, Yume, and Katsuki as scum since d1.

[House]

Hey Radical, who did you guys try to kill n1?

[House]

Good on you for catching it, frustrating though it may be.

... and thanks.

[Micc]

Spoiler: Night 2 actions

Night 2

Radiant Moonlight (Town Compulsive Hider) targets Alchemist21 - successfully hidden
Katsuki (Mafia Nightkill) targets Alchemist21 - fails for bulletproof
massive (Town Seer) targets Radiant Moonlight - receives "NO RESULT"
Fate (Town Conspiracy Theorist) targets Radiant Moonlight - receives "NO RESULT"

[Micc]

Seems likely that Alchemist comes out as bulletproof and Radiant Moonlight comes out as hider. Very broken interaction if both slots are trusted. Only way for Mafia to deal with it is the vengeful shot which isn't going to be helpful since they are setting up DoctorPepper to get to the endgame.

Night 1 kill was on Radiant Moonlight, failed because they were successfully hidden.

[123456789]

Why'd everyone target RM?

[Micc]

not really sure on that.

Looks like doctorpepper might be in trouble. props to the town for being all over this game so far.

[123456789]

I wasn't gonna win this game unless was nice, but the town is really doing good right now.

They probably should just go ahead and lynch one of the lovers or Dr. P.

[Radical Rat]

Hey Radical, who did you guys try to kill n1?

Radiant Moonlight

[Radical Rat]

I wasn't gonna win this game unless was nice, but the town is really doing good right now.

They probably should just go ahead and lynch one of the lovers or Dr. P.

Your problem was the immediate screaming of "MASSIVE IS MAFIA, LYNCH THEM" with nothing to go off of aside from your bus thing, which, in addition to being illegal, was unbelievable.

You gotta get more insidious if you're gonna be a Lyncher.

[House]

I wasn't gonna win this game unless was nice, but the town is really doing good right now.

They probably should just go ahead and lynch one of the lovers or Dr. P.

Your problem was the immediate screaming of "MASSIVE IS MAFIA, LYNCH THEM" with nothing to go off of aside from your bus thing, which, in addition to being illegal, was unbelievable.

You gotta get more insidious if you're gonna be a Lyncher.

True that. You should check my jester game for how to sell a deliberate lynch.

I screwed up on the count towards the end of the day, but the overall strategy was sound.

[Alchemist21]

Hi guys!

Just curious, why was I targeted N2, and then vengekilled?

(But I'm glad I stopped a NK and saved a Hider!)

[House]

Yeah I don't get how a non-xshot bulletproof was killed outside of a lynch.

[Micc]

tbh they didn't have much of a choice for the night 2 kill. SirCakez and Ranger weren't really an option and they had already missed on RM once. I'll let DoctorPepper weigh in on the vengeful shot. Can't imagine he put a ton of thought into it considering his faction is pretty much done going forward.

Worth noting that I'm letting this play out because scorched earth is technically still a possibility even though Mafia has no way to fufill their win condition. That might not be right, and I apologize in advance to anyone who takes offense to it.

The greatest idea Bulletproof role pm is worded as being "immune to nightkills" and the wiki supports that so that's how I wrote Alchemists role PM. I guess it's one of those flavor doesn't quite meet reality interactions that are present in this setup.