STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - OBI-WAN KENOBI & RR ALLIANCE

[Varsoon]

Welcome to your Episode 1 Alliance Neighborhood
You may chat here only during Exposition phase.
Your members include:

Obi-Wan Kenobi
Reasonably Rational

[beeboy]

Yay

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Hi guys. I will be putting up reads on every player when I get back.

For now Drixx/Cerb, how about them Apples?

[Reasonably Rational]

Yo. I'm at work, so I won't have much to say in depth for about 9 hours or so.

-Cerb

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

klingoncelt - strong scum lean, their catch ups skip over most relevant events
cakey - lean town, liked their push on us, I feel beeboy might disagree here though
foxbird - who
x - who
Skybird - weak town lean
Almost50 - Loved his push against NC for dodging his question
shiro - null due to their IRL
DrippingGoofball - lean scum, not enough activity...yet scum end not to ally with other scum so...conflicted
farside22- town since go
Yume
CooLDoG - He reminds me of Saga. Lean scum.
Reasonably Rational (Cerberus v666 + Drixx) - let's see how things go
grapes - town lean
mastina - town
Not Chara - Strong scum lean, sitting back because the first wagon never goes through
Kraskaeaque (kraska77 + lycanfire) - don't like em.
killthestory - Scum don't fake innocent child
McMenno- I liked his contributions towards the end of the prequel
firebringer - he's the scummiest town
Seraphim - Lean scum, no content
SnarkySnowman - ditto, and I think he promised it too
Creature - looks to be NC's whiteknight or partner, their trajectory on Creature is hogwash
random- weak townlean
TheWayItEnds - shrug

[Reasonably Rational]

Beeboy, I'm very weirded out by your lack of presence in the game and the fact that you aren't pressuring ANYONE.

Please explain.

-Cerb

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@Cerb, talk to me about Drixx's reach out? Do you think we're alone?

[Reasonably Rational]

Alone as in is someone watching? If someone is capable of watching PTs, if they have ANY experience with us at all, it's almost guaranteed that we would be a high priority to watch. If mastin2 had allied, she would have also been one, but she didnt.

I'll look over the aliance list and see who else anyone would potentially want to watch.

And...beyond that, I can't talk about what he was saying because beeboy is honestly weirdIng me out. His non presence isn't normal for him as any alignment, so I have no idea what to think about it.

-Cerb

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well the thing is, I want to talk to you about what Drixx crumbed to us, but I can't if we aren't willing to engage about it.

Also, Beeboy's letting me kick things off but for the mason thing. He'll be here later today. We don't particularly care to be townread at the moment. So *shrug*

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Cerb, Do you think Fire is scum?

If you had to lynch one of NC/Creature/Randomidget, who would you lynch?

Do you have any thoughts on my readwall at all?

[Reasonably Rational]

Confused by cooldog reminding you of saga and being in your scum pool. I think he was town there, but I might be totally wrong?

This head doesn't think fire is scum, but this head is also not used to fire playing mafia actively. :/

Creature, probably, but I don't see any reason to think there scum. Randomidget gets some townie points for referencing our town alliances in previous games...not that he couldn't do it as scum, BUT the exact way he spoke feels like the way he'd refer to it as town. I'm not familiar with NC or Creature at all, but creature would win as my choice there because I see NC providing content so I'm more certain I'll be able to read them accurately later on than I will be able to read Creature.

-Cerb

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I thought CoolDog was scum, or am I just totally wrong.

[Drixx]

Kind of need you to care about being obvtown to us. I'm fairly certain you figured out what I was referring to, and if we can get past the sniffing each other's asses stage and I can get a solid town feel from you, then I think we can be more open and try and plan out how to maximize what we do and see if that twisted mind if yours can come up with any ways to catch scum with it.

But ... first things first.

[Reasonably Rational]

Updated list.

MAKE SURE BOTH OF YOU SUBMIT YOUR ALLIANCE REQUESTS!

Alliances:
grapes/chara
fire/shiro
obi/rr
skybird/foxbird
cakes/a50
yume/farside
randomidget/Creature
CooLDoG/Seraphim
McMenno/kraskaesque
DrippingGoofball/Klingoncelt (pending)

Unaligned:
SnarkySnowman
Xkfyu
killthestory
TheWayItEnds

Those are alliances I think, kts and snarky may have allied too.

If scum can look at alliance pts, would they look at any pt besides this one? Meh. Idk. Thinking about it this depends on the timing of when they'duse such a power. If it's a day thing, it's obviously best to look at the 5 man PT, unless they already have a member in their. In that case, it would be second best to look at mastins, since she's apparently conftown now.

If they made the decision based on pregame stuff..I feel like they'd choose ours.

-Csrb

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Great, well you know that town me doesn't care and I'd rather don't care about having people shout that I'm obvtown. If I could confirm we're on the same page, I could respond to your crumbs in a way that I think would help you but not out things.

You have my actual reads and I'm going to work with that. The best way to proceed is to treat you like you're town until there's evidence otherwise.

[Drixx]

I'm not asking you to spill info. I just want you to talk to me in a way that will make me sure that YOU are town, because we're going to have to talk in some detail about what we do to get the best use out of it. As soon as I saw the power I was reminded of the game I crumbed to you.

There's like ... the regular usage for what our power can do and then there's this possibility space where it could have SO MUCH more utility.

[Drixx]

And you assuming I'm town as a default position scares the fuck out of me. Who are you and what did you do with Titus?

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I'm not asking you to spill info. I just want you to talk to me in a way that will make me sure that YOU are town, because we're going to have to talk in some detail about what we do to get the best use out of it. As soon as I saw the power I was reminded of the game I crumbed to you.

There's like ... the regular usage for what our power can do and then there's this possibility space where it could have SO MUCH more utility.

I don't have that gene. If you want me to work with you, I have to suppose you're town. Otherwise, the dutiful thing is just to out what you've said to me. That's what it is.

[Drixx]

Going to have to run it by Cerb to see what we're willing to say. Any attempt to use this to snare scum could be horribly manipulated if we read you wrong and you're scum just telling your team what "advice" you're giving us.

I'm weirded the fuck out by you right now.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Going to have to run it by Cerb to see what we're willing to say. Any attempt to use this to snare scum could be horribly manipulated if we read you wrong and you're scum just telling your team what "advice" you're giving us.

I'm weirded the fuck out by you right now.

Well, hasn't that ship sailed the minute you told me about fruit?

I am going to hunt scum. Either, you see me as town or not. For my long term play, I don't care to do the song and dance.

[Reasonably Rational]

The ship certainly hasn't sailed.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Ok, well then I guess my interpretation of what Drixx told me is wrong and I have no idea what you were crumbing to me.

[Drixx]

There's a world of difference between you knowing we can do something and you knowing exactly how we hope to snare scum with it. Normally you are climbing up my ass like you're a colonoscopy scope trying to work out my alignment but here you are like totally "IDGAF" about it. What's up with that?


P-edit: You got what I wanted you to to out of the crumb.

[Reasonably Rational]

No, you have some idea, it's just what we have is different enough that just knowing about the potential utilization connection wouldn't let scum!you game things, I don't believe. At least, not anymore than the publicly announced portions of things would.

Also, Drixx thinks you're fucking with us with the whole "let's just assume we're all town in a nice happy family together" thing.

You have to admit, it is pretty dang far from the way our interactions in similar situations in the past have gone.

-Cerb

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Yup, but in our similar games, I had to care more about what people thought. Here, I can not give to craps about anything but our perception of what is true. If I trusted you fully and that the best uses of our roles aligned with that, I'd tell you why, but I don't have that level of trust.

It's objectively the better play. If you're town, you like me and it saves headaches. If you're scum, you're more likely to open up to us. You were warm and friendly to us, we can do the same. We can have our fight outs, but I'd rather focus on stronger scumreads.