Shadow Realm

[Fate]

You find yourselves here and may discuss for the duration of D2 and N2.

[Kagami]

Mollie, you should have gotten my orb piece.

[Kagami]

Going to bed, but let's chat tomorrow.

Pretty sure zito had an ability that ended the day early and used it when he hit L-1, but I'm curious what conclusion Dunn had come to.

[pirate mollie]

yes I did! <3

how do you know I had a pt with dunn?

[Kagami]

Here are unfiltered thoughts, I'll probably wait until people post their start-of-day stuffs before doing too much in main thread unless meetings are boring.

Firstly, SAD kill seems like a kill on a player that scum find inconvenient now or difficult to lynch later. Also suggests that the scum is not going for orb-pieces, as both Drealz and Dunn very obviously had one going into N1. Scumteams featuring zito, camn, or dunn have the most to gain from the kill, I think.

I don't understand how people aren't coming to the obvious conclusion that Zito ended the day early, in the 15 minute gap between camntsuki's vote and Dunn's vote. The weird thing about that, though, is that zito doesn't seem like he's really keeping an eye on the game regardless of alignment, and it would be quite a coincidence for him to show up at just the right time like that.

I've been in a game where actionDan-scum had an ability that ended the day immediately. Iirc Katsuki was scum with Dan in that game, so it's surprising that the hydra doesn't have anything to say about it.

I want to think that it was actually Dunn who ended the day, faked a Hammer on scumbuddy zito that he knew wouldn't go through, then killed SAD, who was his scumpartner in the Dance that just finished, and had him as a scumread. He then gave me his orb piece (the other player in this list who was in the dance game) as a means of mollifying me.

Unless there's a town governor claim, I still want to lynch zito. I don't get why he's oddly popular despite magically avoiding lynch and despite the death of one of his strongest wagon supporters.

[Kagami]

since I just mentioned it, btw, Dunn gave me his orb piece.

[Kagami]

if dunn is town here, then drealz is pretty suspect. I don't see any reason whatsoever to crumb that you have an orb piece unless you're not worried about being NKed.

[Kagami]

Nacho continues not to impress. Willing to give him a couple RL days.

I feel like fate is trying to get us to figure out what Nacho is with the goofy PRs (new one seems to be the Mlem mlem thing) if it's real. They don't seem like "mod trolling a player PRs," but rather "this player is this kind of thing, which talks funny."

[Kagami]

if dunn is town here, then drealz is pretty suspect. I don't see any reason whatsoever to crumb that you have an orb piece unless you're not worried about being NKed.

Should add that the annoying softing is also pretty much the only thing he's done.

Pretty ballsy play for a newscum though, so idk. Makes a lot of sense as town trying to be tricky, and then scum-dunn using that to have some "clever" town-looking off-the-wall read.

[Kagami]

O, and I had no idea you had a neighborhood with Dunn, where did you get that idea, and why did you ask to be neighborized?

[Kagami]

I thought you needed to have a PT to have superpowers, but you already had one?

[Kagami]

RC and Staeg are people who are seriously not making waves too.

[Kagami]

No role flips is obnoxious. How am I supposed to know what a Ritual Caster is?

[Kagami]

Camntsuki could also have ended the day shortly after making the L-1 vote, which would explain why they didn't mention the ActionDan thing.

[pirate mollie]

wut

[Kagami]

I take it you would prefer filtering.

[Kagami]

Don't buy "frustration" as a compelling reason for Spyrex's nonsense, btw, but stand by zito and spyrex being unlikely to be scum together (which means not both scum given no extra kills).

[Kagami]

Rather, that frustration doesn't mean town. It's not hard to be frustrated as scum, especially when one feels like he was caught over some detail.

[pirate mollie]

I am pretty sure dunn and dreamz are town. the push on them is awful.

how are you not seeing scumacho?

[pirate mollie]

I mean you are gonna have to sell me hard on scum!dunn altho I am listening about tho.

[Kagami]

I'd have to sell myself on it first, mollie. I will take care to keep things filtered, though I was sort of hoping for yarrrrgami v2.0

[Kagami]

I strongly agree that I expect town-Nacho to be doing things that this-Nacho isn't doing, and that he's generally being extremely lazy with reads.

[Kagami]

I'm waiting for someone to say "I am town and I ended the day early," before I worry too much about anything.

If that doesn't happen, then the day ended because scum made it end, which makes absolutely no sense if zito is town.

[pirate mollie]

I don't think that dunn wld nk sad. sad had him as null cos he says he can't read dunn. the pple he was pushing were nahdia/zito/nacho/spyrella while revisiting the camn hydra from time to time. he hard defended infinity and dreamz.

so if you are gonna try to push dunn it is not nka altho I wld love to hear as to why you thought that sad's super scumread dunn. where are you getting that from?

[Kagami]

I don't think he super scumread Dunn, and if he did, I would think it somewhat less likely that Dunn would kill him. I think he had Dunn floating as a latent scumread, placing him scummier than 6 people (half the town) and then putting him in a top 3 lynch list, which scum-dunn would have reason to want out of the game.