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There is a water-based skellie farm not far from spawn. Suppose it would be worthwhile to build a real access to it given there is interest.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Exactly 2.0 but check the OP for modifications. We removed something and there is a config download.
Thought you had played there already but I'll check the wl.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Ah, Matter Overload needs to be deleted from the client instance.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Oh, looks like ETL forgot to put the mod disable instructions in the OP, and the blog is way out of date.
Matter Overdrive was causing problems, so it needs to be disabled.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'd be down for providing enchanting materials (esp. books) in exchange for diamonds from the folks who seem to have a knack for that.
Question for Klaz/M -- client mods ok? Minimalist mods on server such as Morpheus, like the current vanilla is set up?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Mostly map and recipe book type things. Depends on what mc level and what's available for it.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Yeah, busy weekend, thanks for taking care of it.In post 19308, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:modded/vanilla was down for a couple days but looks like no one noticed anyway it's back up nowWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The Klaz/M one?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I thought Alchemist was already wl'd -- added now.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I've been in the house overnight a couple nights before the changes, and there were no monster spawn issues at all. If it was zombies the usual mistake is to build the roof out of full blocks and then forget to light it. Simple enough to fix. Personally I prefer the open look like it had before but not a huge deal. Alternatively use glass instead of cobble -- I carried a couple stacks of sand back from the desert last night and would be happy to go get more. In fact I might have left some glass cooking...
We need more chest space if anyone feels like expanding one of the floors a bit.
I'm thinking about doing an AFK autofisher. We were using those on the ms vanilla and getting tons of enchanted books, bows, and fishing poles.
Also I'm finding mining pretty inconvenient in the immediate area, chock full of caves down there. Ultimately we'll probably want several stacks of diamonds to gear up everyone for the dragon.
For enchanting, use books and then anvil them onto your gear, that lets you pick and choose. Which also means steak is on the menu though we'll obviously be flush with food and never have an issue getting more. Especially after I start getting stacks of fish as a side effect of getting all those superpowered bows.
This vanilla has arrows with effects, right? Do feathers drop or do you still need to kill chickens? Or if someone finds a skellie dungeon we can farm arrows that way.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Re: mining comment -- I have an unnatural aversion to dying so I'm not the caving type. For others this might be heaven lol.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I specifically left the diamonds in spawn house alone until I contributed some. Don't remember what the supply was when I was there yesterday. That said, I'm expecting everything there to be communal and we'll ultimately need several stacks to gear everyone up.
My mining total is up to a whopping 6 so far. Typical for my luck. Don't remember if I've deposited them or if I'm carrying them still...Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Got on the new events just fine, and waypoints carried over without needing to do anything special.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Hmm, that's interesting. I think I've seen mysterious changes before, another time another place. If you don't mind PMing over info on how you knew I'd appreciate it
Pretty sure the only thing I did was move some iron from furnace to chest. And go check out someone's mine.
That brings me to a question / comment. When you're mining at y12 and intersect an existing stair, wouldn't it make sense to kinda match things up?
Someonereallylikes long straight tunnels, like 100's of blocks. No objection of course, just found it different. Kudos on blocking off the side caverns though.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I prefer wood doors with pressure plates on the inside only. They auto close if you move off the plate and there is no need for precision click to open if you're running from a mob.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I had been happily standing inside the door, they aren't even trying to break in.In post 19417, Klazam wrote:
zombies break wood doors on the difficulty the server is onIn post 19415, davesaz wrote:I prefer wood doors with pressure plates on the inside only. They auto close if you move off the plate and there is no need for precision click to open if you're running from a mob.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Yup, I'm there at times. Got 5 more diamonds which doubles my count. Need fortune. I also found a mineshaft only 130 or so from the spawn house.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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what are all these coords about?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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When organizing a time please include times and timezones.
I play most often between 7pm and 11pm any day + 10am-11pm weekends, Arizona time (UTC-7) but work and family make it intermittent.
That's 0200-0600 UTC weekdays and 1700-0600 UTC weekends.
Sadly the last 2 weeks have been much more intermittent than I'd like, and it's likely to continue to be intermittent. So don't go out of your way for my benefit.
If you know your times and location but not the UTC conversion go ahead and post in local time and others can do the conversion.
This pagetop for rent if someone wants me to stick a message here.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I visited the building above the end portal. Has there been much done on a nether portal connection? It looks like it will be almost a straight line.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Meaning, there's a route there already? I was gonna work on one...
Oh, I see what you mean by winding. Yeah, I'll work on a safe passage.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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There is now a completely enclosed path between the nether portals.
It could be enhanced by adding stairs, or going straight up instead of curving, but with this being a short term I figured safe is good enough.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Can you do the crystals with tnt?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Reallyfull quiver.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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BTW I've been doing my little things for the war effort, like mining 1.5 stacks of obsidian and repeatedly digging half a stack of gravel for arrowheads (for those who don't have infinity).Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Modded or vanilla, and mc name?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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yes, vanilla 1.10.2 and modded 1.7.10. See OP for details, and either post here or PM your mc username for whitelisting.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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^ Added to whitelist, you should be good to goWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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If you get tired of the wind noise, placing them at higher altitude reduces the noise and may increase power (though I never measured that and am not sure about it).Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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There is an alternative method of reclaiming the channel, if we can't get everyone to logoff.
Did anyone message Maru to drop off?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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ah, didn't realize the Maruchan one isn't you. That changes everything about how the channel gets recovered.
I went ahead and got opped by the sysop. This let me register the channel and give ETL founder permissions.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Any apparent improvement in the lag?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The update seems to have reset any FTB team designations.
This would presumably reset any chunk loading due to FTB, and for me the lag is gone.
So I'd say I agree on the likely culprit being some automation that is running.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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A spot check now shows normal spawning rates too.
Yes's spawner maybe, if he was using the team chunkloader to keep it going?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Changed it in which direction?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Best guess the lag is something that is calculating display stuff on the server side instead of client. It's definitely a CPU based problem, at 100% all the time with memory usage in the 50-75% range.
I went from my place to one which seems to be M and Klaz, and lag improved. Going from there to ETL's it got worse. Going N from ETL's it recovered slowly.
The lag at my place is less than ETL's place. I didn't have (much) lag last week, don't know what would cause that.
I have not checked back to find out if things have recovered overnight once I was away and not causing chunks to be active.
I'm thinking about either dialing back Forestry butterflies, or seeing if the animations in ExtraUtils can be turned off in the server config. We don't want to actually disable EU2 given it is how some of us have flight. The first thing that pops into view when approaching ETL is the water mill stack for GP, and her place and mine both have butterflies.
Another thing that might help is reducing the frequency of server saves. It's something like 2-5 minutes right now and there is a huge pause when it saves. The tradeoff there is more rollback if there is a crash that doesn't save.
One more thing that could help is changing the Java garbage collection parameters. But I don't know how to get access to the shell script that launches a server, where the parameters would need to be put.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The lag should be substantially less now. Don't know if it's completely gone. Dialing back butterflies and killing the existing ones seems to have done it.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Added to both.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Same deal as last time, gimme some kind of idea what you're working on and I'll be happy to help.
Though I'll be gone week after next which means I'll start off behind if you really do hustle.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I think events is run by Klaz and M and they may not have anything going.
I've been playing on "all the mods" for 1.10.2, which is too heavy for the server. Sadly it crashes when I try to craft a rotary condensentrator. Luckily the ftbutils backup had just happened so I didn't lose much.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Vanilla is up on 1.10.2 (slightly modded so technically not vanilla, but very close).Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Added, enjoy!Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Thinking about switching modded to 1.10.2 FTB SkyFactory 3, as a event thing for a few weeks. I'm checking the memory and cpu load at home to see if I can estimate what the server will do, and ETL has it running SSP on a 3gb laptop, albeit with some slow loading times.
Who's in for that? Anyone object to stopping and uploading the current 1.10 world?
In the meantime we can tweak the 1.11 pack that ETL has started on.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Can't wait to get back from camp and see how far behind i am.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I added a trash can and command block at spawn to trade chance cubes for loot bags. This is an honor system thing. I think we'll be fine doing it this way and it's better than having to wait for one of us to be online.
Also, aphix had enough end portal frames from loot and eyes of ender to make an end portal, so I added a spawn basement and put an end portal down there.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Oh, that's interesting, I never bothered to look into the Win10 version but it makes sense given that Win10 itself is supposedly "portable" to things like phones and tablets.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Pack update:
I've been poking around 1.11.2 and there are now plenty of mods available. At least one desirable mod has a compatibility bug and should have an update coming soon. When that is fixed it's possible we may be a go, but I have some questions on hosting.
Having done some playtesting I strongly suspect that the lag problem is a generic processor power issue on the host that ETL is using, not the modpack.
This is especially obvious given it's really laggy on a skyblock map even before anyone logs in (as evidenced by server skipping ticks messages). The tick issue is some form of CPU shortage.
It is possible that the problem is the Java garbage collection settings (which made a huge difference on my desktop), but it isn't clear those can even be changed on this hosting service.
Taking input on mods to include / exclude. Your input may or may not be accepted. If you'd like it to be private, PMs are fine.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Update: I'm also looking into 1.12 as a possible version. A lot of stuff is available, and adding things should not be as perilous as it was back in the days of id conflicts.
Not sure what's missing on that level... but I'm gonna see if what is available works.
It may be that we only go a few weeks on 1.11.2 -- thoughts on world permanence vs. currency?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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What we're currently waiting on is an incompatibility between Mekanism and a mod that Dark Utilities is dependent on.
We can wait for an official Mekanism update, or possibly use an unofficial fork in hopes that it won't break when the official one comes out, or go forward without the things that depend on that library.
If we go forward and the later update breaks it, we'd have to choose between not updating or starting a new world.
Play testing is going very well. I'm comfortable with the pack as is, without DarkUtils (and whatever those other mods were). I have one remaining open question related to Thermal Foundation Platinum which I'm not seeing for some reason. Surprisingly, the last time I checked memory it was only taking 1.9GB working set in SSP, but that was before a nether trip.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'm on the 1.11.2 version atm.
Just as I thought all was well, the golden lasso recipe is different from what I remember and also it doesn't work and when I tried to look in the ingame manual it didn't open either. But it was working fine on another pack so I'm not sure what's up with that.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I happen to agree with that comment in general, it seems like writing a basic summary is a lost art for some people.
It also annoys me when a mod has no written doc (in the thread, project, wiki, ingame, anywhere) and the answer to a question is "watch the mod spotlight video". I don't want to watch videos at 1am when the rest of the family is sleeping, I want to be able to read the info in relative silence. Folks know how to make a video but they don't know how to write down instructions?Last edited by davesaz on Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:55 am, edited 2 times in total.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The EU2 book definitely doesn't work in my test pack, which is annoying but not a deal breaker.
The golden lasso recipe was a JEI issue, I could make it using the recipe I remembered.
The platinum issue was it not being in the config at all, and windows search couldn't find it in another pack's config even though the mark-1 eyeball had no problem at all. So it is added in but I'll have to abandon my already constructed spawn platform and generate a new world because I flew around a bunch to find a good spot and can't find a way to retrogen the COFH stuff. Not a big deal just a half hour or so in creative.
Left to do:
Fly to new land on the test world and check oregen.
Gen new clean world and build spawn.
Convert SSP instance to server.
Save & store modded, upload server & test world, verify it doesn't lag.
Upload client package & real world, and open it up.
With luck, Friday night.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The server works but it's much too late to proceed with distribution tonight.
As for performance we'll see what it does with multiple people.
Extra todo - add an irc mod, forgot that in my testing.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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ScumPack 7is LIVE!
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Forge13.20.1.2386 (changed, was 2393)
Create an empty MC 1.11.2 instance with the specified Forge level.
Drop in the config and mods folders from the SP7.zip file located here.
Server address162.223.8.203:25575
The whitelist should have carried over.
In the interest of server health I suggest only using mob spawners when the drops are actually needed for a project, and use a design which can be turned off.Last edited by davesaz on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:59 am, edited 1 time in total.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Hold off a bit, Maestro pointed out that this is neither recommended nor latest forge so it may cause problems.
That may also clear up a couple things that were disabled due to crashes while I was building it.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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On both the client and server I have found that Java 8's default settings are not the best.
Two additional parameters can make a huge difference.
-XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
Example minecraft settings page for curse/twitch client. This setting is at the very bottom of settings->minecraft.
You can probably get by with less memory as needed.
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The SF3 world can be found on Google Drive, as file skytest.zip.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The launcher method counts as a download for each of the mods included in the pack, which is why they set it up that way.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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With Java 8, I have found that adding these parms to the advanced Java settings makes a huge difference in lag on modpacks, both SSP and server.
-XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
If you have trouble figuring out how to set it in the launcher you use, post here and one of us will most likely be able to help.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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SP7.1 is up on a new server host
Minecraft 1.11.2 Forge 2386
Mods/configs - use SP71.zip from here
msmodded.g.akliz.net (no port number necessary in address)Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Upgrades & additional mods. Binnie, magic bees, one probe, and others that I don't remember offhand.
Took out RC and it solved most if not all of the gen lag.
Took out infernal mobs.
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