Ultimate Videogame Topic 3: The Next Generation
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Yeah, but it, like, fixes a bunch of the problems with the main game. Its hilarious, lighthearted, you get more screentime with Fulbright/Blackquill, Pearl plays major part(versus her cameo in the main game), and its loaded with callbacks to the original series. Well worth six fifty.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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I know people who play a mafia variant on it(Trouble In Terrorist Town). Otherwise, it's sorta like Minecraft in that "do random shit in a sandbox" way.In post 182, zoraster wrote:also, can anyone explain to me what the appeal of gary's mod is?Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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Dude, Beyond: Two Souls is fucking hilarious. I forget who's stream I was watching when he got to the end and you can choose which of the four endings and one of them is with the inconsequential baby chick. Then everything post-credits is just so much lol.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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Yeah, DAO isn't really unique--it follows the 'Bioware flowchart' pretty much exactly and is mostly generic fantasyland, but its also really really well-written and an enjoyable tromp. The combat is kinda boring unless you like the old isometric style stuff(I don't), but you can turn it in easy and just breeze through. Its also the last good game Bioware made before EA really took them over.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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I just don't really like the direction Bioware went after DAO. Like, they make good games still, but they're just not for me.In post 555, zoraster wrote:I thought ME2 was good. I wish I could play ME3 without getting motion sick.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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'lol'In post 649, bv310 wrote:At that price, it's a fantastic buy. Infinite's in my top 10 for favourite games I've played. Story on it's pretty great.
Bioshock Infinite is a mess of a game that manages to be fun in spite of itself. $7.50 is about the perfect price for it.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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I liked Bioshock 1 and 2, but Infinite just has so many issues in terms of every single mechanic and story element that it all comes together To make this huge, disjointed mess. But it's so disjointed that it turns itself around and manages to be fun again.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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Bioshock 2 was a really good game--it improved upon the original's mechanics and managed to sort of tell it's own story without fucking up the original's or getting too convoluted. It's environments overall were a lot more interesting than Bioshock 1's(although none of them really compared to Fort Frolic--probably the single best segment of an FPS game out there).
Infinite on the other hand is a glorious mess. It's like, it has this upgradable gun system, but discourages the continuous use of a weapon through scarcity of ammo. It has a bunch of superpowers that all do the same thing(seriously, before Undertow, every single vigor is "attack with projectile or set up a trap with said projectile") so it's interchangable. It has this absurd gear system that I swear was added, like, a month before launch--there is literally no in-game way of checking what gear you have on at any time and all of the gear is boring(the only one that was cool was, like, the 'ignites enemies upon landing' which is hilariously broken in any skyrail fight) AND subject to RNG to get the damn things in the first place. You have this NPC that follows you around, sitting there being invincible(despite the game having an early pop up saying 'Yo, you gotta protect her!") and randomly throwing power ups with at(fun fact: just leave one enemy alive whenever you need more ammo/hp, then go hide in a corner for like ten minutes!). Like, goddamn, it's been a decade since Resident Evil 4 andthisis the best they can think of? What happened.
The worse part of all that mess is that the different systems don't interlock at all. There is no synergy between the upgrades and the guns(all the upgrades are variations of +X% damage or whatever), there is no synergy between plasmids and guns, the gear is useless and all-around not notable, the tear concept is just there doing boring things like 'bonus cover'. It's all just a mess.
That's not even getting into the protracted nature of combat in the game due to fact every enemy has like six times the amount of health they should have(the only exception being the Handimen, who have this stupid pathetic AI that makes them a non-factor).
Then you get to the story, lol. The game manages to ruin most of it's most intimate moments through shitty game tropeslike when you go towards Comstock House and you think the story is moving towards a climax, but then you see a door that says 'MUST HAVE ELIZABETH TO LOCKPICK LOL', just ruining any dramatic tension that could happen due to being in an unfamiliar universe trying to save your daughter from an electro-rape machine. The big reveals of the game(namelyYOU ARE COMSTOCK and ELIZABETH IS YOUR DAUGHTER IN ANOTHER UNIVERSE LOL) are pure cheese. The supporting cast is pretty much non-existent(exception being the Luteces, who are the only interesting characters in the game). Then you get to the ending, which, like, is just dumb and doesn't fix anything. Or how about all those 'feels' moments throughout the game that are, quite frankly, laughably out of place(my favorite beingwhen you're in the slums and you see the kid & play him a song on the guitar--it was doubly funny because I had somehow aggro'd all the patrons in the bar so I murder what is likely his family, then give him a sentimental song--even if I hadn't, though, the whole scene is so out of place as to be comical)?
But, the big joke is, it all works. Like, I was genuinely entertained through the whole thing, So, I can't fault the game too much, despite every bone in my body wanting to just absolutely hate this game.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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Not gonna lie,In post 800, bv310 wrote:I missed gumshoe in Dual Destinies (though Fulbright was pretty cool too)I was actually really sad when Full bright ended up being the villain. Like, I fucking loved that plot twist, but he was really cool and I think I liked him more than Gumshoe(Ema isn't even in the running).Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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DD I think is the best AA game on it's own. The overarching plot is awesome and subtle, the new characters actually have a good chemistry(Fulbright is a worthy Gumshoe replacement), and even the filler cases were fun(5-3 is my favorite filler case of all time).
I'm waiting for the full translation of AAI2 to play it, but I've heard it's much better than AAI.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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Going back to Ace Attorney one last time, the first full release of the AAI2 translation has happened.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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In post 1191, Xalxe wrote:Bought the new Humble Bundle, but I can't redeem KickBeat because I'm on a Mac, so first to click wins it!
(Steam is kinda necessary)
This was a good bundle. I've been playing Electronic Super Joy and Bit.Trip Runner quite a bit(well I beat the first b.t a while back). Electronic Super Joy in particular I'm baffled on how I missed picking up this whole time.
My only wish is that Crypt of the Necrodancer was in it, but oh well.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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So, I was cleaning out my closet a few minutes ago and I found my stash of DS games. I guess I'll just post it here.
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Solitaire, Brain Age and Bejeweled were both hand-offs from my grandma, and some of these games are not very good at all(Golden Sun, Phantasy Star, Sonic Chronicles by some definitions), but otherwise say I've fully enjoyed all these games. Meteos is a big hit people miss all the time and is a really fun puzzle game, Nostalgia is a JRPG with a lot of promise that had some glaring flaws, Castlevanias are all Metroidvanias at their most polished(although not thebestMetroidvania, which goes to this game), Rune Factory is fun if you like waifu simulators.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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Dark Dawn is like they took everything bad about the original Golden Suns(long unskippable boring dialogue, stupid protagonists), traveled back to 1989 and took all the worst things from JRPGs of the era(useless storylines, common points of no return) then decided to add in the typical anime bullshit of introducing THE FORGOTTEN FIFTH ELEMENT which pretty much doesn't make sense given the original storyline(or world, in the like 30 years since the end of the last Golden Sun, the entire world was rearranged to not look at all similar to the last game--come on, even Tales of Symphonia/Phantasia did this right and they were recursive canon!).
Did I mention the plot is incredibly stupid and downright insulting at points? And the characters likely all have extreme mental deficiencies(or are boring robots with three lines).
The game sucks, and I hate it. I was never the biggest fan of the original Golden Suns, but they actually had effort put into them and were enjoyable in some measures. This wasn't in the slightest. The game itself plays fine, but that just makes it worse(see: Sonic Chronicles, a game that has incredibly stilted gameplay that manages to make the tangled mess of a game enjoyable due to it's flaws).Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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In post 1456, Sudo_Nym wrote:So maybe it's just me, but DAI doesn't actually seem like very much fun to play. I've played the first 7 hours, and I'm wondering how much longer I have to go before the game starts being enjoyable.
Welcome to new-age Bioware! Truthfully, unless you're a D&D nut, Bioware games have pretty much never been 'fun', but you still played them because the dialogue and story was good. And those aspects have been slowly going downhill since Mass Effect 2(I blame the original founders leaving the company, Hamburger Helper being chased out of the company by Reddit and Gaider having no one to keep him in check).
They really should just give it up and make the visual novels they want to make.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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I don't like the plodding start-and-stop combat that Baldur's Gate, NWN, KOTOR and DA:O had(coincidentally, I also think that combat is the worst part of real D&D due to similar complaints), but I could absolutely understand people liking it.
Mass Effect was just boring tactical shooter gameplay I've seen done better elsewhere.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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Anyone here been following Prismata? I found out about this game last week after one of my friends saw it on reddit and holy shit it's like the most fun, competitive game I've played in a long time. The jist of it is, depending on your perspective, it's either Starcraft except without a map and turn based, or Magic the Gathering without the RNG or decks. It's an alpha and a kickstarter project(both of which make me highly skeptical), but the product they already have out is really fun.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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In post 1493, Natirasha wrote:Anyone here been following Prismata? I found out about this game last week after one of my friends saw it on reddit and holy shit it's like the most fun, competitive game I've played in a long time. The jist of it is, depending on your perspective, it's either Starcraft except without a map and turn based, or Magic the Gathering without the RNG or decks. It's an alpha and a kickstarter project(both of which make me highly skeptical), but the product they already have out is really fun.
At risk of sounding like a shill, the devs sent me two free alpha keys for being a 'valuable member of the community'(snicker).
If anyone wants to give it a shot, PM me!
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In post 1576, Iecerint wrote:Huh? Yes it is. There are choices related to it in Dragon Age Keep.
I was unaware! I know one of the writers said during the leadup to DAI that Witch Hunt wasn't canon anymore because they wanted to bring Morrigan back.
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In post 1707, hasdgfas wrote:The Director's Cut? Ok. If you have that, you can actually focus less on combat if you like as they updated the boss fights somewhat. If you don't have the director's cut, you need to put a bit more of your development points into combat abilities, since the boss fights focus more on that and less on the stealth/exploration aspects of upgrading.
Even without DX, you just invest in Typhoon and win boss fights(and cheat for the third one).Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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Bravely Default has one big flaw(there is one too many time loops), but its a very solid JRPG otherwise.
Definitely recommend playing Final Fantasy V/Tactics/4 Heroes of Light if you like the job system in BD, because Bravely Default pretty much takes all it's cues from those games.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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Spoiler: My Terrible Taste
You can tell my weeb/visual novel preference is showing with this, although my top pick is still probably the best game out there. The only outlier really is Paper Mario, which should be up in the top tiers--I like it more than TTYD. Otherwise, this list was pretty good honestly for being so mainstream, the only things I'd add are all really obscure(VtMB, Radiant Historia, An Untitled Story) or have reasons not to be considered for the list, be they "It's not a game"(Visual Novels) or "It's actually terrible"(Deadly Premonition, Huniepop, Sonic Adventure 2).Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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I've somehow sadly never played any Zero Escapes. It's on my list for some century to play through, right afterLittle Busters,The Fruit of Grisaea,Rose Guns DaysandAsphyxia.
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As to Mario RPGs, it goes for me.
Paper Mario TTYD
Paper Mario
Mario & Luigi SSS
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Bowser's Inside Story
SMRPG
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Super Paper Mario
Dream Team
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Partners in Time
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Random Flash Games
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Super Smash Bros 3DS run-around-and-get-powerups mode playing as Mario
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dressing up as mario and running around in your backyard
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Sonic the Hedgehog: Battle
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Modding Fallout or Skyrim to have Mario replace the character model
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Using Mario stickers to roleplay
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Paper Mario: Sticker Star
To this day, Sticker Star is still the single worst game I have ever played. In part because of the disappointment with the Paper Mario name, but also in part because the game is so ridiculously hodgepodged together and all the mechanics make zero sense and have no real purpose for being in the game at all except to appease Miyamoto.
EDIT: Here is a way-too-long response post I wrote about Paper Mario: Sticker Star 2 and a half years ago.
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Fire Emblem: Fates is the best thing Intelligent Systems has put out since at least Path of Radiance, possibly even longer. It fixed literally every problem I had with Awakening's gameplay, and the story is so ridiculously nonsensical I swear it's secretly a parody(at least, Conquest, still haven't gotten to the other one).
Most importantly, the waifus are a way better in this one. While we're missing out on any breakout hits like Tharja, the cast as a whole is more interesting. Now if I could actually get my gay romance on and not have to play a dude...
(I chose Peri for Conquest waifu, her and strict-pacifist Corrin are best couple)Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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Yeah it was, although I'm not sure how sold I am on the idea of silver weapons murdering your stats like they do.
I'm on Birthright now. Conquest ended up getting really gimmicky around chapter ~20 and I just sort of lost interest in continuing. I've also read that Conquest Endgame is literally the worst chapter in all of Fire Emblem, so there's that. I already miss my batshit murderous waifu, though. I don't think anyone in Hoshido can really stand up to Peri when it comes to wife-ing(although Setsuna is trying really hard).Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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In post 2426, Brandi wrote:How dare you insult AT time porn like that. Some of the art for Bubbline it is actually good >:
Hey, I ain't insulting any show that has an F/F ship as it's most popular ship. I'm just saying, doing that and playing Cookie Clicker is about the experience you'd get from Huniecam Studios.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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In post 2439, Chevre wrote:I keep telling people that Sonic '06 is a great game, but it's no use!
It's an experience everyone needs to experience once, at the very least.Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.-
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