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Post Post #39775 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:05 pm

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I've never been flamed for playing Malz
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Post Post #39776 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:06 pm

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Wait I think I read your post wrong
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Post Post #39777 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:07 pm

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he refers to adc mid
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Post Post #39778 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:19 am

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I actually have a pretty easy time farming as corki, generally? (Relatively easy, anyway, I am legit terrible at CS)
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Post Post #39779 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:18 am

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Malzahar would be a great pick up if you're looking for a lesser used champion. At low elos people (read: me) have no idea how to deal with his combination of Damage over Time and stupid skuttle crab.

Honestly, at low elos I think any real ADC is fine as long as you play it a lot and know how to use them in your muscle memory. Also there's something to be said at low elos for giving an opponent something they aren't familiar with even if overall it has a low win rate. If your main role isn't ADC, I'd pick a champion with a natural escape though.
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Post Post #39780 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:04 am

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In post 39767, animorpherv1 wrote:but your team will struggle to kill you


Yeah cause i always play 1v9 as support.

zoraster wrote:Honestly, at low elos I think any real ADC is fine as long as you play it a lot and know how to use them in your muscle memory. Also there's something to be said at low elos for giving an opponent something they aren't familiar with even if overall it has a low win rate. If your main role isn't ADC, I'd pick a champion with a natural escape though.


It does and doesn't matter at the same time, there are always going to be ADC's that are countered by other ones, or just plain stronger, though picking one that suits your skills definitely helps.

IE: Pick ADC caster's if your good with skillshots.

quadz08 wrote:I actually have a pretty easy time farming as corki, generally? (Relatively easy, anyway, I am legit terrible at CS)


If it's before sheen, it might be due to the slightly higher base damage (his true damage passive means to minions you do slightly higher damage which can make it slightly easier)

If it's after sheen, it's cause your able to shit out abilitys and CS with the sheen proc's decently.
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Post Post #39781 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:42 am

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In post 39778, quadz08 wrote:I actually have a pretty easy time farming as corki, generally? (Relatively easy, anyway, I am legit terrible at CS)


Corki is easy to farm with because of his passive.

He's hard to play well in team fights because of all the spell weaving and his e
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Post Post #39782 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:43 am

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Corki can cs ranged under turret with no buffering from the support. He and draven are the only ones who can do that
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Post Post #39783 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:44 am

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I'm so sick of Sona right now. Whatever you do,
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Post Post #39784 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:26 am

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Probably none of you care, but there's some reddit hate on Riot's recent move to increase RP costs in none USA regions (in a response to recent developments in exchange rates). People see a 10% increase and then complain how between the regions the cost for RP is simply not the same and hasn't been before. Which is impossible anyway, but maybe there's some fair criticism there. Regardless it stinks for anyone involved. In a span of just months, Riot has seen an effective decrease of their EU revenue by 25-30%, since I assume they write their results in dollars. That is rough. So they decide to share the pain a little bit, take the hit in possible sales perhaps. For EU, RP is in practice something you are importing from a US based company... the euro gets cheaper, importing costs more.

All in all, it's not ideal, but it's understandable...
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Post Post #39785 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:27 am

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I don't quite understand the hate. They made up for it by making the regional icons cost RP here and IP there, totally fair.
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Post Post #39786 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:28 am

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I mean, that's more interesting than anything else that goes on in this thread.

Seems to me their actions are completely defensible. I can't say whether it's a good business decision or not, solely because it's only to be expected that the user base would choose to flip a shit instead of trying to understand. But it *should* be a good decision.
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Post Post #39787 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:25 am

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People are acting entitled towards things they aren't entitled too.
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Post Post #39788 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:49 am

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Post Post #39789 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:24 am

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If I see one more Ezreal:

  1. Fail to finish a single item (read as: parts of items, and fail to finish them)
  2. Lose lane and proceed to blame everyone but himself
  3. BUILD A SHEEN THEN JUST SIT ON IT AND RUSH IE/BT
  4. Ask for adc then instalock Ezreal


I will throw this computer out of a window. Seriously, I've never seen an Ezreal win lane or go even. EVER. Useless champion is useless! I'm seriously convinced Ezreal is league's only troll champion.
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Post Post #39790 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:26 am

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Dunno man, my Tear-rushing jinx in ranked kinda matches that
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Post Post #39791 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:31 am

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In post 39790, Cabd wrote:Dunno man, my Tear-rushing jinx in ranked kinda matches that


I would take this over Ezreal.
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Post Post #39792 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:32 am

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She didn't know that the minigun was a thing? started Q and stayed rocket form entire game? Yeah you dont want that dude.
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Post Post #39793 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:34 am

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At least she'd be able to stay safe through chompers and zap plus 700 range.
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Post Post #39794 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:38 am

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That said I do agree that ezreal is one of those ADCs I can't see myself ever playing because their kit seems underwhelming.
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Post Post #39795 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:51 am

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Ez only works if you get ahead early / have a solid tank line so you can just fight foreeeeverrrrrr

and he has very underwhelming lategame damage compared to other adcs, particularly aa-heavy adcs like caitlin / tristana / etc
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Post Post #39796 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:52 am

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Then why play an adc that's so dependent on getting ahead.. and still being largely useless? I don't get it.
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Post Post #39797 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:15 am

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In post 39796, animorpherv1 wrote:Then why play an adc that's so dependent on getting ahead.. and still being largely useless? I don't get it.

Very mobile; great synergy w/on-hit items/effects on Q; Q is good for poke, too; R is good for neutral snipes, and great for Teamfight damange if you get 2 or more hit by it (especially if you don't hit minions at all/until after champions.

From what I've gathered, though, Ezreal is amazing in either long teamfights (where he can Q for days and poke everyone down) or probably scattered teamfights (where he isn't being bum-rushed by everyone and their mother, and thus can focus down specific champions and use both his passive and on-hits to 1v1 his opponent down before the fight gets more centered (if it does; should Ez win while the fight goes south for his team, he can probably just E out).

If you don't like champs that need long teamfights to be effective, though, then I can see why you think he's useless.
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Post Post #39798 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:22 am

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In post 39797, Voidedmafia wrote:Very mobile; great synergy w/on-hit items/effects on Q; Q is good for poke, too; R is good for neutral snipes, and great for Teamfight damange if you get 2 or more hit by it (especially if you don't hit minions at all/until after champions.


ALL of this save "very mobile" is done by Jinx.

In post 39797, Voidedmafia wrote:From what I've gathered, though, Ezreal is amazing in either long teamfights (where he can Q for days and poke everyone down) or probably scattered teamfights (where he isn't being bum-rushed by everyone and their mother, and thus can focus down specific champions and use both his passive and on-hits to 1v1 his opponent down before the fight gets more centered (if it does; should Ez win while the fight goes south for his team, he can probably just E out).

If you don't like champs that need long teamfights to be effective, though, then I can see why you think he's useless.


... Jinx? Again? Rocket Q and W is great (and better) poke (you can't MISS an autoattack on 95% of champs), she does great in extended teamfights because of it, and scattered teamfights is AMAZING for Jinx because of her passive.
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Post Post #39799 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:23 am

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His damage is super strong when he gets TF.

He's safer than other champions who also get really strong with TF in the midgame (Kog, Corki).

I think he used to be crowded out by Corki, but I think the balance is better after Corki's W mana cost was changed.
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