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Post Post #41555 (isolation #1200) » Wed May 13, 2015 11:02 am

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Ya she's already plenty ridiculous.
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Post Post #41566 (isolation #1201) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:08 pm

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I'm bummed about new Abyssal. :(
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Post Post #41570 (isolation #1202) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:23 pm

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I fucking love the Ekko voiceset.

My favorite is when he flirts with Janna.
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Post Post #41576 (isolation #1203) » Wed May 13, 2015 3:11 pm

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In post 41574, FakeGod wrote:
In post 41570, Iecerint wrote:I fucking love the Ekko voiceset.

My favorite is when he flirts with Janna.

UGH

EKKO X JINX SHIP GOT TORPEDOED BEFORE IT EVEN LEFT THE DOCK

Ekko X youngViktor was my OTP. :cry:
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Post Post #41582 (isolation #1204) » Wed May 13, 2015 5:11 pm

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In post 41581, Psyche wrote:i am this close to being able to play lol without jeopardizing my entire future

Finish your finals. :]
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Post Post #41588 (isolation #1205) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:16 pm

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I've done some numbers on new Ashe's crit passive.

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Here's the equation from the wiki:

10 + (%Critical Strike Chance × (1 + Bonus Critical Strike Damage)) % AD

Damage marks give 2%
Chance marks give 1%

Considering only marks, I think the equation is maximized at 4 crit damage marks and 5 crit chance runes. This gives 35% AD bonus damage; other combinations give less than this. A different combination might be better once you take into account that crit damage is harder to itemize for (just IE), but I figure that's a little too late-gamey.

AD marks give 8.55 AD. This mean the crit runes above are better than the AD runes once 35% of AD without 8.55 AD is more than 10% of AD with 8.55 AD.

At level 1, Ashe has 51 base AD, 4.55 from masteries, and 7 from Doran's blade, which should be 62.55 AD assuming AS quints. 35% of that is about 22, which is more than 8.55. This suggests that crit damage/chance marks are stronger than AD marks for Ashe at level 1 provided that the target has been affected by her passive.

If you directly compare frosted targets, I think it comes to 84 damage vs. 78 damage after the first auto-attack at level 1. Of course, this comparison ignores that the first hit deals more damage with flat AD, so it's a stretch that they're "better" as early as level 1, but the difference only increases.

Please correct if it there's an error.

It looks like crit marks are better than AD marks against frosted targets as early as level 1 (by 6 damage), and the difference increases from there.
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Post Post #41589 (isolation #1206) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:19 pm

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In post 41587, Psyche wrote:my teemo is just too easily killed now!

He has some tricks you can learn.

1. Use his Q as an autoattack reset.
2. Use blind at a time that minimizes enemy damage. Fight enemies who rely on autoattacks to exploit this.
3. Use the attack speed burst from your passive (I'm really bad at this on Teemo).
4. If someone tries to chase you, make them follow you into your mushrooms, after which they should be slowed well enough for you to kite them.
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Post Post #41590 (isolation #1207) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:24 pm

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imls streams teemo toplane sometimes if you want to watch someone who's a believer in Teemo.

Less so these days since he's coaching Gravity.
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Post Post #41591 (isolation #1208) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:35 pm

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In post 41590, Iecerint wrote:imls streams teemo toplane sometimes if you want to watch someone who's a believer in Teemo.

Less so these days since he's coaching Gravity.

He just started streaming, actually.
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Post Post #41594 (isolation #1209) » Wed May 13, 2015 7:01 pm

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DeathNote can duo with Kaceytron. :]
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Post Post #41596 (isolation #1210) » Wed May 13, 2015 7:10 pm

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In post 41583, FakeGod wrote:
In post 41576, Iecerint wrote:
In post 41574, FakeGod wrote:
In post 41570, Iecerint wrote:I fucking love the Ekko voiceset.

My favorite is when he flirts with Janna.

UGH

EKKO X JINX SHIP GOT TORPEDOED BEFORE IT EVEN LEFT THE DOCK

Ekko X youngViktor was my OTP. :cry:

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Post Post #41597 (isolation #1211) » Wed May 13, 2015 8:32 pm

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Watching Ekko streams is pretty fun.
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Post Post #41608 (isolation #1212) » Thu May 14, 2015 12:05 pm

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Reprot?
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Post Post #41630 (isolation #1213) » Fri May 15, 2015 11:31 am

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I did the Ashe math wrong earlier. She benefits most from normal runes until you get a pickaxe.

Disappointing. :(
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Post Post #41633 (isolation #1214) » Fri May 15, 2015 3:54 pm

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Bonus crit damage applies to her frost-crits still.
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Post Post #41635 (isolation #1215) » Fri May 15, 2015 4:33 pm

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If I did the math correctly, crit damage runes are worse than crit chance runes until you have 100% crit chance. It's really pretty disappointing.

Like, since they scale with each other, you'd expect that some combination of the rune types should be ideal given that you want to go that route. But it's sadly not the case. :(
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Post Post #41636 (isolation #1216) » Fri May 15, 2015 4:35 pm

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In post 41634, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 41633, Iecerint wrote:Bonus crit damage applies to her frost-crits still.

The crit damage only applys as a Percentage multiplier to the crit chance though.

Yes, but that's always how it is.

Normal formula: Damage multiplier = 1 + (Critical chance × (1 + Bonus critical damage))

Ashe's formula: BONUS DAMAGE IF FROSTED: 10 + (%Critical Strike Chance × (1 + Bonus Criticial Strike Damage)) % AD
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Post Post #41646 (isolation #1217) » Sat May 16, 2015 2:15 am

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Volley is slightly worse I think, but ya. Go Ashe go.
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Post Post #41649 (isolation #1218) » Sat May 16, 2015 2:25 am

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Black Cleaver is almost as good for her personal aa damage as Last Whisper if you manage her Focus passive well, and it gives 400 HP, 20% CDR, and benefits teammates. ^_^
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Post Post #41652 (isolation #1219) » Sat May 16, 2015 2:53 am

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Her new E active is better, though. That's what he's referring to.

The gold generation passive was powerful, but scarcely noticed.
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Post Post #41659 (isolation #1220) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:35 am

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BC only applies once for on hit, but multiple times for on physical damage.
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Post Post #41671 (isolation #1221) » Sat May 16, 2015 2:05 pm

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In post 41667, Glork wrote:Ashe's Q counts for each arrow that hits. Idk how many stacks that is per AA, but it seems like it might be worth a try.

Four stacks
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Post Post #41679 (isolation #1222) » Sat May 16, 2015 4:15 pm

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Yeah, five makes sense. Idk. 4+.
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Post Post #41684 (isolation #1223) » Sat May 16, 2015 4:22 pm

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Try to have 10000 when you hit level 20 (for runes), but it's fine to buy folks.

I'd probably only buy really expensive champions like Jinx if you've played them on free rotation.

In general the OP gap is way less important than lots of other factors.
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Post Post #41690 (isolation #1224) » Sat May 16, 2015 4:40 pm

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In post 41685, JasonWazza wrote:Also is it just me or does her Q focusy thing not seem to crit? (this could be to do with their new number showing system for all i actually know)

The crit passive stacks with it multiplicatively according to her wiki.
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Post Post #41694 (isolation #1225) » Sat May 16, 2015 5:14 pm

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In post 41691, Psyche wrote:to be honest
i'm getting tired of teemo

If you want to try supporting, Sona is free this week. She's super strong and very easy to play.

Max Q and build AP.
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Post Post #41698 (isolation #1226) » Sat May 16, 2015 7:06 pm

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In post 41696, Chevre wrote:
In post 41694, Iecerint wrote:
In post 41691, Psyche wrote:to be honest
i'm getting tired of teemo

If you want to try supporting, Sona is free this week. She's super strong and very easy to play.

Max Q and build AP.

Iecerint is like a Sona master, I've seen it, so I'd trust him ^_^

My Sona mechanics are top-tier.
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Post Post #41731 (isolation #1227) » Sun May 17, 2015 3:22 pm

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The ardent censer buff seems completely ridiculous. I don't know what they're thinking.
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Post Post #41734 (isolation #1228) » Sun May 17, 2015 5:14 pm

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It's OP on Sona. Now it's going to be even more ridiculous on Sona. Then they'll nerf Sona. Again.

I mean, the aura basically gives everyone an on-hit pickaxe (not to mention the remaining AS boost).
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Post Post #41735 (isolation #1229) » Sun May 17, 2015 5:15 pm

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(It's only OP on Sona if you have a team that autoattacks, but you wouldn't pick Sona unless you had one of those, anyway, because of how her Q aura works.)
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Post Post #41737 (isolation #1230) » Sun May 17, 2015 6:45 pm

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He's a marksman in that he uses his autoattack to deal damage, but he's not an ADC. That's what he means. He doesn't have any AD scaling in his kit, and his range is too short to rely just on late-game scaling with 5 items that improve his autoattack.
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Post Post #41739 (isolation #1231) » Sun May 17, 2015 7:11 pm

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ADC means attack damage carry. It's the champion who will build items that are focused on making their autoattacks frequent and strong who almost always go botlane with a support.

AD means attack damage. Some champions are said to "have AD scaling," meaning that building AD items make their abilities stronger. Sivir is like this -- building AD makes her boomerang stronger.

Some ADC champions (well, no one these days really, but previously Tristana before her rework) build as ADCs even though they don't have any AD scaling on their abilities. In those cases, it works because their autoattack range is so long late-game that they can focus on items that make their autoattacks strong and just abuse that. Caitlyn works similarly, though she does have some AD scaling.

Teemo has mostly AP scaling, meaning that his abilities get stronger as you build AP. That's why you normally build stuff on him that increases his AP or magic penetration. He's a "marksman," but only in the sense that Azir is a "marksman."

I would label him a Support/Marksman if I were in charge of his labels, since his major contribution is vision with his mushrooms.
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Post Post #41742 (isolation #1232) » Sun May 17, 2015 7:43 pm

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He's not much of a mage, though, other than that he builds AP.

Q: Damage + Blind
W: Gotta go fast
E: Buffs his autoattack
R: Wards that slow and damage

If they had a Scout designation, they could give that to him and Evelynn.
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Post Post #41756 (isolation #1233) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:21 am

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In post 41745, Psyche wrote:i wish you guys had told me that sooner

Imls still believes in Teemo.

He's a good pick to know for picking against certain autoattack-reliant toplaners.

You can play anyone and do well if you know them well. AP is so solid with Janna that he can still play her mid and dominate.
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Post Post #41757 (isolation #1234) » Mon May 18, 2015 5:23 am

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Post Post #41760 (isolation #1235) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:03 am

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I believe in Fakegod.
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Post Post #41767 (isolation #1236) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:27 am

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I've had really great ranked teams recently.

I should probably keep playing ranked before they nerf Vlad.
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Post Post #41768 (isolation #1237) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:27 am

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My favorite Tryndamere player is that Platinum Trynd main who has a 0.4 KDA or something ridiculous like that.

Split-push all day every day.
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Post Post #41769 (isolation #1238) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:46 am

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In post 41751, Reubus Swagrid wrote:I can't escape bronze, no matter how hard I try I'll always do very decent and the when it comes to promos riot will match me with all the feeders they can find. I'm not sure what bronze is like on other servers but on OCE it really makes you wonder how bad one can be a lol. Eh where's the magic button at? Might just start spamming veigar or something. Has anyone gotten out of bronze solo queuing with a certain champ? I've tried riven but alas, someone will always be more fed. Anivia is also pretty strong I find but I don't know how far spamming her will get me.

Also, who is a better buy Kat or Akali? Kat seems to always get banned and while stomping norms is fun she almost always gets banned

If you fail just your promos disproportionately, you'll eventually jump 2 divisions, so I wouldn't worry. Just treat every game as its own thing.

I'd get Diana before Akali. She can fit into most teams pretty well (she can assassinate, but also kinda poke or tank if necessary, you can play her jungle if there's champ select drama, she's never banned), and she's stronger at levels 1-5 than Katarina or Akali. She also completely dominates Katarina in lane, which I imagine is nice to have on-hand if Kat is ubiquitous. Kat would be OK if you can play around the enemy cc.

In general I think I started out trying to pick champions for the lane match-up, then graduated to picking champs I knew that fit well with my allies, and then graduated to picking champs that I knew worked well against enemies that weren't my lane opponent.
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Post Post #41771 (isolation #1239) » Mon May 18, 2015 7:58 am

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In post 41770, PJ. wrote:Matchups don't matter. Teammates don't matter. Pick your best champion and take over the game. That's the only advice for bronze.

This is good advice if you're actually a gold+ player in bronze, but it may not work for someone who's playing near his real elo.

I mean. The pick might be as simple as "has hard cc" so that you can single-handedly stop Katarina from carrying every team fight.
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Post Post #41773 (isolation #1240) » Mon May 18, 2015 8:07 am

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For sure.
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Post Post #41774 (isolation #1241) » Mon May 18, 2015 8:29 am

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The support mastery tree is getting a mini-rework.

Intelligence is now even more ridiculously OP.
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Post Post #41777 (isolation #1242) » Mon May 18, 2015 8:54 am

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AP used Janna mid this season. Hidden OP.
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Post Post #41781 (isolation #1243) » Mon May 18, 2015 9:11 am

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I love that League Of Tanks And Ashe lets me play Vlad in every game. ^_^
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Post Post #41793 (isolation #1244) » Mon May 18, 2015 11:34 am

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Playing ADC will a bad support is such a bad feeling.

I normally only ADC to fill, so I don't feel it very often.
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Post Post #41800 (isolation #1245) » Mon May 18, 2015 1:17 pm

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In post 41799, zoraster wrote:Iecrint: joins a premade game. Sees a name he doesn't know. Asks who it is, IMMEDIATELY leaves, then queues up elsewhere.

I don't like using mumble.
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Post Post #41803 (isolation #1246) » Mon May 18, 2015 1:45 pm

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Sometimes I just want to play a relaxed game.
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Post Post #41811 (isolation #1247) » Mon May 18, 2015 2:16 pm

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In post 41807, zoraster wrote:iec plays a lot of bot games.

I play exactly 1 bot game every 22 hours.
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Post Post #41820 (isolation #1248) » Tue May 19, 2015 12:32 am

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The issue with spamming Hecarim is that he's banned in every game.
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Post Post #41821 (isolation #1249) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:06 am

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My normal MMR is high gold and my ranked mmr is high silver.

It makes it really hard to practice things that aren't support.
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Post Post #41823 (isolation #1250) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:34 am

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If I practice ADCing with high gold/low plat players, people get angry when it's apparent that I'm outclassed. It's not fun to feel like you ruined others' game.

On the other hand, I can play Sona and win lane against mid-gold supports.
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Post Post #41828 (isolation #1251) » Tue May 19, 2015 5:15 am

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In post 41826, Psyche wrote:after a lot of trial and error i am now decent with jax

What are you building?
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Post Post #41836 (isolation #1252) » Tue May 19, 2015 5:42 am

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In post 41831, zoraster wrote:Don't most jax's build a damage item? or am I crazy? I have no idea how you get 16 kills without any damage whatsoever.

Usually Trinity Force + one of [Gunblade + BotRK], with Gunblade being better if ahead early, but BotRK being better in general cases.
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Post Post #41841 (isolation #1253) » Tue May 19, 2015 7:42 am

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Jinx jungle
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Post Post #41850 (isolation #1254) » Tue May 19, 2015 9:44 am

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In post 41848, JasonWazza wrote:So question, on my malz mid, is it more worth having Magic pen Red's or AD Reds?

I've changed my Mid AP page to have AD reds because my champions in the lane (Nidalee, Malz and Annie) generally get enough benefit off the AD as the slight increase in magic pen. (not so much annie since the patch.)

I dunno just kinda want to know what you guys think.

Malzahar has HP-scaling damage, so magic penetration is disproportionately good on him.

If you really want to get more mileage out of harassment from Malzahar's autoattacks at levels 1-3, hybrid penetration is a reasonable option. There's normally a disadvantage here of not being able to benefit from the AD for last-hitting, but Malzahar doesn't really need to use AD to last-hit, anyway, so the disadvantage is pretty marginal.

I would just run magic penetration, though. I feel like Malzahar is slow and has a slow enough aa animation that you should get punished for relying on it too much, and penetration is generically really strong on him.
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Post Post #41881 (isolation #1255) » Wed May 20, 2015 5:46 pm

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The worst toxicity I encountered was when my normal MMR was low. I think the problem was that no one really knew what was going on, so everyone had a different idea about how the team should play. That, and toxic banned players making alts.

It gets better around Silver, where everyone agrees on the same meta strategy (take your tower, then slam against mid turret as a team until you win or lose).

Probably worse a little higher than that.
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Post Post #41883 (isolation #1256) » Wed May 20, 2015 6:16 pm

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In post 41882, zoraster wrote:A guy flamed me the other day after the game for not building BOTRK on Jinx. Not that building one is ridiculous, but caring that I built a BT over a BOTRK enough to yell at me after the game for it was weird.

Lol
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Post Post #41888 (isolation #1257) » Thu May 21, 2015 1:43 am

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Post Post #41890 (isolation #1258) » Thu May 21, 2015 2:00 am

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There are lots of subtleties that make it even better.

For example, Sona has a gunblade and a BF Sword.
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Post Post #41893 (isolation #1259) » Thu May 21, 2015 3:20 am

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I love watching his Bronzodia streams. It helps that he's pretty cute.

The other day Xin Zhao built Runaan's.
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Post Post #41895 (isolation #1260) » Thu May 21, 2015 3:34 am

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I just played with an extremely pleasant Vayne, but then I realized he was a master-tier smurf who was chat-restricted.
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Post Post #41903 (isolation #1261) » Thu May 21, 2015 6:34 pm

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In post 41900, Klazam wrote:

HILARIOUS

+ watching the caster's reactions was amusing.

all of his sstreams is games like that?

No, he alternates Diamond stream, smurf stream, PBE streams, and Bronzidia.
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Post Post #41904 (isolation #1262) » Thu May 21, 2015 6:39 pm

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He's doing Bronzodia right now I think.
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Post Post #41918 (isolation #1263) » Fri May 22, 2015 2:35 am

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In post 41914, PJ. wrote:Riven, Jax, probably irelia

This for sure.

Riven is the hardest because she can shield most of his trade if she plays it right. Vlad can only cs if Riven gets lazy and uses Q to farm.
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Post Post #41919 (isolation #1264) » Fri May 22, 2015 2:37 am

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In post 41912, PJ. wrote:Also Gnar, also Vlad.

Renekton can probably do pretty well against Vlad early. He just has to win an early trade to have kill pressure and force Vlad to die or tower-farm.
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Post Post #41924 (isolation #1265) » Fri May 22, 2015 5:17 am

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Oh, yeah, Swain destroys him. You don't encounter it much, though. Vlad just has to hope Swain doesn't know how to cs.

And Fiddlesticks is the hardest counter to ever counter, if you just want to beat Vlad in lane.
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Post Post #41926 (isolation #1266) » Fri May 22, 2015 6:53 am

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Fizz isn't so bad anymore now that grievous wounds is gone. I used to always pick Jayce into Fizz, though.
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Post Post #41938 (isolation #1267) » Fri May 22, 2015 2:56 pm

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Her damage and laning aren't noticeably nerfed for now much self-peel and utility she brings. She has more burst damage now due to her Q. Her sustained DPS late-game is a little weaker on average because of how the crit passive works.
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Post Post #41946 (isolation #1268) » Fri May 22, 2015 11:11 pm

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Orianna is good against Vlad, too.
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Post Post #41949 (isolation #1269) » Sat May 23, 2015 12:30 am

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Psyche's dream is to play every obnoxious laner in the game.

Get Darius next, and then Blitzcrank support.
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Post Post #41953 (isolation #1270) » Sat May 23, 2015 1:53 am

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In post 41952, ActionDan wrote:Caitlyn carries? News to me

We're talking about champions who are annoying to lane against.

Reason: Psyche's favorite champions are Teemo and Heimerdinger.
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Post Post #41956 (isolation #1271) » Sat May 23, 2015 2:01 am

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A long time ago I was doing ARAM with some friends who only play ARAM and have ridiculous ARAM MMR. I didn't know how to Swain because I'd never played him before. Their advice?

"Walk forward."
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Post Post #41963 (isolation #1272) » Sat May 23, 2015 5:51 am

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In post 41962, PJ. wrote:What happened to Karma?

Her mantra W and E are changing.
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Post Post #41965 (isolation #1273) » Sat May 23, 2015 6:33 am

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Oh, I thought you were talking about her PBE changes.

I don't think she was ever nerfed. She probably still works fine.
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Post Post #41975 (isolation #1274) » Sat May 23, 2015 4:04 pm

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In post 41974, Oman wrote:I build ardent on Sona a lot. She's healing 2 people every fight, and healing a lot. She loves the AP and adores the mana regen. It might be wrong, but I've never had a problem and felt like that item was the issue.

If you shield everyone with her aura, that applies ardent to everyone.
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Post Post #41982 (isolation #1275) » Sat May 23, 2015 7:24 pm

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In post 41980, FakeGod wrote:nami has a very weak AtE argument

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Post Post #41987 (isolation #1276) » Sun May 24, 2015 3:21 am

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Just built both it and Mikael's. :)
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Post Post #42012 (isolation #1277) » Tue May 26, 2015 8:46 am

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In post 42006, Bins wrote:I think it was Iec who also had the problem.

Iec, I temporarily fixed it by just playing in borderless. But apparently my graphics drivers were like 4 years out of date... and that's why. Updated them and no more problems. You can also try setting league to high priority.

Updating my drivers a month or so ago drastically improved my FPS, but didn't fix the problem for me. I just switched to borderless. High priority didn't change anything unf.

I'll get a new computer soon anyway.
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Post Post #42071 (isolation #1278) » Thu May 28, 2015 2:16 am

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In post 42067, Klazam wrote:Time to know if this thread knows its shit.

Just picked fiddle in vlad.

He can't cc you out of drain, and he can't w out of drain, and all his damage is in drain range, and you can silence him. Silence is briefer now, though.
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Post Post #42074 (isolation #1279) » Thu May 28, 2015 4:11 am

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If a tea fight is about to happen, say "tp is up" or "no tp." It usually makes the support drop a ward.
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Post Post #42166 (isolation #1280) » Sun May 31, 2015 4:46 am

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Looks like 44%
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Post Post #42181 (isolation #1281) » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:37 am

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People know that you just have to not stand on his ult, right?

It should never hit you unless you're fighting him melee and it suddenly comes off cooldown.
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Post Post #42184 (isolation #1282) » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:42 am

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Jayce rework is neat.
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Post Post #42187 (isolation #1283) » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:50 pm

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I think he's pretty safe between dash, stun threat with w, and his ult.
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Post Post #42189 (isolation #1284) » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:06 pm

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He's meant to finish off weak targets I think, though it's of course a bonus if people are dumb enough to blindly chase and give him a 5-man ult.

Zhonya's is great for creating situations like that.
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Post Post #42191 (isolation #1285) » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:42 pm

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brandi get a fan and play games.
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Post Post #42202 (isolation #1286) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:21 am

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I'd rather have Sivir for the utility, but the rest looks okay.

Ability-based damage falls off relative to dull autoattackers at 6 items. Kalista usually won't have crit, so she falls off, too.
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Post Post #42210 (isolation #1287) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:53 am

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His point is that ADCs that build crit and autoattack inherently scale better than those who focus on ability damage. The reason is that ability damage typically can't crit, which affects their previous itemization choices and reduces an important damage multiplier in the late game. An exception is Varus, who has %HP damage on his W and hence another multiplier altogether. Lucian's passive can crit, so he's also in an intermediate position. This is why Corki/Kalista/Ezreal/MF/Quinn/Urgot/Graves don't do quite as much damage late game. The degree to which this happens can be modified by itemization (e.g., going for a brutalizer will give a nice power-spike attractive to ability-damage champions, but at the cost of 6-item power).

Caitlyn has little incentive to go for a build like that, so she always builds stuff that ends up putting her in the higher damage categories late-game. But only very late game.

She's recognized for that power pattern now because Tristana's rework removed her from that niche (strong early, weak midgame, stronger lategame). She's also not as good at it as old Tristana because she lacks the ridiculous AS steroid. So the % armor-penetration (more relevant as the game goes on) should help her.
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Post Post #42211 (isolation #1288) » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:01 am

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Caitlyn having a crappy empirical lategame winrate can be explained by match-ups probably. For example, champion.gg has almost 5000 Vayne v Caitlyn match-ups, and the next most common in Jinx v Caitlyn.
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Post Post #42217 (isolation #1289) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:42 am

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Twitch/Vayne/Kog build that way because they have special scaling with attack speed, though. They're still autoattackers (just moreso because their kit makes their autoattack special in some way).
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Post Post #42219 (isolation #1290) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:56 am

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Vayne W, Kog W, Twitch E/R.

Having an AS steroid makes you scale better with AD, so the presence of the AS steroid isn't why Twitch builds BotRK.
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Post Post #42220 (isolation #1291) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:57 am

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Though I guess Twitch's E also scales with AD. I'm not sure which increases E's damage more on a per-gold basis. Just the ult if AD wins I guess.
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Post Post #42222 (isolation #1292) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:02 am

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Yes, the logic was that you stack up faster. But it also deals bonus damage with bonus AD, so that becomes a wash if AD gives more damage per gold.

I don't see Twitch much. ^^;
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Post Post #42224 (isolation #1293) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:50 am

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Vayne's R (which gives free AD) also lets her scale better with AS. I forgot about that.
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Post Post #42226 (isolation #1294) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:02 am

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Couldn't you use that logic to justify building BotRK on anyone?
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Post Post #42229 (isolation #1295) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:27 am

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HUD Update. My favorite part:

We’ve moved the scoreboard around so the two teams are listed horizontally, and added drag and drop so you can shift people around and line up midlane vs midlane, or move people around however you like.


Rito thx.
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Post Post #42236 (isolation #1296) » Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:02 pm

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In post 42234, zoraster wrote:you could already rearrange if you were spectating.

You could rearrange on the bottom, but you couldn't rearrange the icons on the sides of the screen.

Also, while playing, you couldn't assign people to the hotkeys without remapping your hotkeys every game (e.g., if you say top = 1, etc).
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Post Post #42250 (isolation #1297) » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:01 pm

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The power is that his passive lasts for 6 seconds.
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Post Post #42252 (isolation #1298) » Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:06 pm

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I'm going to presume that that's after activating his passive.
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Post Post #42271 (isolation #1299) » Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:38 pm

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I'm pretty sure the intended counterplay is to fight him when his passive is down and play passive when his passive is up or about to be up.
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Post Post #42273 (isolation #1300) » Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:03 pm

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I hadn't noticed he just needs 5 spells to get his passive going again. That's silly.
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Post Post #42377 (isolation #1301) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:02 am

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In Jayce's case, there's currently a big newbtrap where players were leveling his R at the normal times. You can see it on champion.gg.

Elise doesn't have that.
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Post Post #42379 (isolation #1302) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:07 am

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In post 42378, FakeGod wrote:People level R on Elise?????

Yep.
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Post Post #42380 (isolation #1303) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:08 am

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Post Post #42382 (isolation #1304) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:14 am

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I dunno much about Elise, but what you're saying makes sense, especially in Cinderhulk meta where her spiderlings all explode.
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Post Post #42386 (isolation #1305) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:44 am

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In post 42385, Glork wrote:
In post 42381, FakeGod wrote:Leveling Elise R gives her extra 10 on-hit dmg in spider form and an extra spiderling.

No, her spiderlings also do more damage per rank. Her spiderlings also scale with 30% AP, just like Elise herself does. So it's actually a pretty sizeable DPS increase. They also get increased Armor and MR per rank.

I think her spiderlings just get stronger with ranks in W?

Also yay mafiatigers.
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Post Post #42388 (isolation #1306) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:47 am

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Ah, at the bottom.

It's confusing that that's not in her description for R.
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Post Post #42389 (isolation #1307) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:49 am

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Still marginal if there's lots of passive AoE tho. I've read people suggest that that's what kept the anti-tank assassin thing from becoming meta during Cinderhulk (damage nerfs aside).
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Post Post #42396 (isolation #1308) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:17 am

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I liked Fakegod's silly post.
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Post Post #42400 (isolation #1309) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:50 am

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In post 42397, quadz08 wrote:
In post 42395, Glork wrote:Oh man, that Skarner rework. So depressing, and I don't even play Skarner.

yuuuup

he's basically just warwick except no survivability (i.e., completely terrible)

He has a slow and a stun tho. ^_^
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Post Post #42402 (isolation #1310) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:01 pm

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You mean the Lucian nerf that gave him a 60% winrate?
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Post Post #42406 (isolation #1311) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:47 pm

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Fakegod never does bad things, so that knowledge will probably help to rule-out would-be bitchiness.
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Post Post #42410 (isolation #1312) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:04 pm

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Spectating Fakegod is really fun btw.

Like I'm not doing it right now and it still occurred to me.
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Post Post #42411 (isolation #1313) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:33 pm

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I like new Jayce. ^_^
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Post Post #42413 (isolation #1314) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:04 am

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Event #1: Faker plays Master Yi mid.

Event #2: I observe Master Yi mid in my personal life.
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Post Post #42424 (isolation #1315) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:50 am

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Putting enchanted armor deeper in the defensive tree will reduce the noob trap factor.

I could see adaptive armor being OK on someone like Taric.
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Post Post #42427 (isolation #1316) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:02 am

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I go 0/21/9 on Taric.
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Post Post #42429 (isolation #1317) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:06 am

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That was a different Yi tho.
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Post Post #42456 (isolation #1318) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:13 pm

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Isn't Ani using it correctly? Skill floor means the minimum skill needed to do passably. High skill floor means it takes time to learn the champion well enough to do passably.

I think some people use it to mean "output level given minimal skill," but I don't think that's standard.
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Post Post #42470 (isolation #1319) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:57 pm

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I think the logic is just that you might as well grind ward points if you're gonna do a fair amount of 5s anyway.

I'd be around.
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Post Post #42478 (isolation #1320) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:59 pm

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PA plays this. ^_^
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Post Post #42479 (isolation #1321) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:00 pm

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TBM is a gracious lord.
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Post Post #42482 (isolation #1322) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:40 pm

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People are saying runeglaive may help her. Idk.
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Post Post #42514 (isolation #1323) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:06 am

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In post 42510, notscience wrote:I still am unable to find a main.

You can play Jayce again.
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Post Post #42517 (isolation #1324) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:07 am

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I think runeglaive will help Diana.

CDR loss is less of a big deal for her because of her reset mechanic, the mana lets her donate blues, and she can use the spellblade proc easily.

I hope it gets a small buff, though.
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Post Post #42532 (isolation #1325) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:24 am

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Did someone play lane shaco in lcs somewhere? They're suddenly everywhere.
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Post Post #42535 (isolation #1326) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:33 am

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I should set it up to join automatically.
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Post Post #42538 (isolation #1327) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:56 pm

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Ya it makes a bloop sound whenever a new person joins the room.
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Post Post #42542 (isolation #1328) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:42 pm

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I need someone who can read unclear spreadsheets.

This was posted on reddit yesterday and got my attention. It's based on something someone posted on GameFAQs suggesting (I think?) that the MF on-hit build does almost as much damage as the traditional crit build while being tankier and contributing MR shred.

It looks like the build is 400 gold more expensive and deals 96% of the damage of a traditional build (albeit less front-loaded), plus HP from black cleaver, extra lifesteal, and Armor/MR shred that can potentially be leveraged by allies.

But the spreadsheet is pretty ugly.
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Post Post #42545 (isolation #1329) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:53 pm

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I'd rather mid Varus and go Tear if I really want my poking dreams to come true.
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Post Post #42547 (isolation #1330) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:33 pm

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He just got nice buffs this patch.
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Post Post #42550 (isolation #1331) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:42 pm

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Did you skip brutalizer altogether? I was grabbing it and just never finishing it, but it feels really bad.
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Post Post #42554 (isolation #1332) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:46 pm

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Post Post #42573 (isolation #1333) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:22 pm

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In post 42569, zoraster wrote:Ardent Censer Sona has carried me through Silver I * pretty much. I only bought her on this account starting with Silver I, and have a 78% win rate and a 5.8 KDA with her over 18 games.

^_^
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Post Post #42576 (isolation #1334) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:15 pm

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The armor stacking. ^_^
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Post Post #42630 (isolation #1335) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:52 am

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The passive does scale with enemy HP, though, which has maximally scaled up by late game.
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Post Post #42633 (isolation #1336) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:15 am

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I think it could be OK if you end up with low-MR, health-stacking opponents (i.e., enemy tanks build health, enemy squishies build damage).

WOTA
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Liandry
Deathcap
Ionian
[15% CDR in runes/masteries]

Is how I would do it in that case. But it also depends on how tanky you need to be. You can replace Rylai/Liandry with Luden/Void if you were way ahead by midgame. And you of course need Void if you end up having to spend a lot of effort on people with MR. And you will have an Abyssal in there if you were laning against AP and needed it, or maybe even both an Abyssal and a SpiritVisage if the enemy is running 3 AP damage threats (or 2 fed ones).

Such strategic diversity. ^_^

I think deathcap is going to be even more important to him with the stronger multipler and it becoming the only 120 AP item.
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Post Post #42635 (isolation #1337) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:42 am

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Myko, are you taking into account Liandry's having 80 AP and 100 AP being the highest tier?
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Post Post #42637 (isolation #1338) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:34 am

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Rylai's slow is buffed in magnitude and nerfed in duration I think. Also, AoEs that apply damage instantly now apply the full slow (e.g., Malzahar Q now applies the full slow, but Malzahar W/E do not). I think that's a buff to Rylai's slow for most champions. But ya, maybe a nerf to Liandry+Rylai depending on when Liandry checks for for whether a slow is currently active.

The cost of Liandry is being increased a bit to compensate, but less than 30 AP worth (I think it's an extra 300 gold IIRC).
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Post Post #42639 (isolation #1339) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:40 am

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What about the factor of CC sources elsewhere on your team?

Say, if you could assume that you always got the full liandry burn (e.g., you have a Sejuani jungle or Ashe ADC).
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Post Post #42641 (isolation #1340) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:53 am

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In post 42640, mykonian wrote:shouldn't the sejuani build it at that point? :)

I like the way you think.
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Post Post #42647 (isolation #1341) » Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:38 am

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Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.
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Post Post #42672 (isolation #1342) » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:51 pm

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I connected facebook as soon as it was available because I wanted to find any friends I missed. I only picked up a few spare smurfs, though.
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Post Post #42675 (isolation #1343) » Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:27 pm

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I guess Q yourself whenever he jumps on you?
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Post Post #42688 (isolation #1344) » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:30 am

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What do you think is your weakness?
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Post Post #42722 (isolation #1345) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:25 am

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You just have to work harder at blaming your team.
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Post Post #42731 (isolation #1346) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:27 pm

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His passive doesn't work on jungle creeps apparently.
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Post Post #42734 (isolation #1347) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:19 pm

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His AP ratio on W is insane right now, though will probably be nerfed.
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Post Post #42737 (isolation #1348) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:07 pm

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I'm made uncomfortable by the idea that the event will last a "few months" or something. It sounds like they wanted to do GP/MF/Tahm together, but it won't all be ready.
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Post Post #42745 (isolation #1349) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:23 am

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In post 42739, zoraster wrote:8 out of the last 9 champions have had slows in their kits (only rek'sai does not). It's interesting that Riot has leaned so heavily on slows, but it makes sense.

Kinda surprising. Riot previously said that they wanted to move away from slows in favor of personal speed boosts. But I guess they're skillshot slows (except Kalista).
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Post Post #42784 (isolation #1350) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:18 am

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I think wards placed helps a fair amount. I do better than I should a lot of the time, I think largely because I always upgrade trinket at 9 minutes and spam it in bushes on cooldown.
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Post Post #42788 (isolation #1351) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:41 am

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I mean you play Elise.
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Post Post #42792 (isolation #1352) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:32 am

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Also and most saliently, Kayle.

Rito heard my dreams.
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Post Post #42806 (isolation #1353) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:40 pm

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In post 42804, Saki wrote:I SAID "ANYTHING BUT TOP" AND THEY SENT ME TOP

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What site is that from? I'm really curious to see my banners.
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Post Post #42812 (isolation #1354) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:34 pm

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MF is pretty solid against Vayne and wins teamfights with the right comp.
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Post Post #42818 (isolation #1355) » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:19 pm

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Idk the only thing worse I can imagine is something like Draven.
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Post Post #42830 (isolation #1356) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:17 am

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The new devourer is so beautiful.
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Post Post #42833 (isolation #1357) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:44 am

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Nice for Skarner and Kayle too.

And jungle Vayne. ^_^
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Post Post #42842 (isolation #1358) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:23 am

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In post 42840, Saki wrote:runeglaive ezreal is a thing
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Ya
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Post Post #42845 (isolation #1359) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:02 pm

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Runeglaive Ezreal is special because it makes his Q magic damage. This means that all the magic penetration you buy suddenly makes it stronger, whereas normally the physical damage falls off without last whisper or similar, along with squishy ranged champs and champs in general having lower magic resistance than armor. And it's only a little more expensive than the otherwise-standard lichbane rush.
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Post Post #42846 (isolation #1360) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:03 pm

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It also lets Ez's Q apply Rylai's and Luden's. ^_^
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Post Post #42853 (isolation #1361) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:02 am

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Similar to Jinx, but a better duelist and she has self-peel. Poorer AoE damage.
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Post Post #42885 (isolation #1362) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:22 pm

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In post 42881, Maestro wrote:Explain.

He's great at taking objectives and can still delete people with the proper set-up.
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Post Post #42891 (isolation #1363) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:52 am

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If what you want is the highest winrate support, it's Brand.

Janna does best overall in solo queue still and has for ages.
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Post Post #42894 (isolation #1364) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:02 am

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In post 42892, zoraster wrote:
In post 42891, Iecerint wrote:If what you want is the highest winrate support, it's Brand.

Janna does best overall in solo queue still and has for ages.


what's this in response to?

The Zilean discussion.
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Post Post #42896 (isolation #1365) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:31 am

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MS is so influential.
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Post Post #42899 (isolation #1366) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:41 am

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^_^
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Post Post #42900 (isolation #1367) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:44 am

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OMG the new Zeke's.
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Post Post #42902 (isolation #1368) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:14 am

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Nevermind, the information is a lie.

Now it builds from glacial shroud and gives armor, mana, CDR, and AP. You choose a "buddy" whom you can change. It stacks up like Shiv/Luden's and grants you both bonus AP and crit chance when it procs.
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Post Post #42906 (isolation #1369) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:22 am

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In post 42904, hiplop wrote:
In post 42891, Iecerint wrote:If what you want is the highest winrate support, it's Brand.

Janna does best overall in solo queue still and has for ages.


Haha i was forced to play brand support yesterday and did super well! glad its a actual good thing

http://champion.gg/champion/Brand/Support

It's not actually the best support, but people who main him play him well in the support position.

He has lopsided winrates against Kalista and Jinx.
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Post Post #42907 (isolation #1370) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:24 am

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In post 42905, Psyche wrote:qq i lost practice and now i suck with teemo
either that or this touchpad isn't as good as my old one

Get a mouse. Touchpads are notoriously terrible.

Like there's one person in Master or Challenger (idr) who uses a touchpad on EUW I think it was and he did an AMA because of how outrageous that seems.
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Post Post #42913 (isolation #1371) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:36 am

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I have my touchpad disabled on all my laptops.

The Dell ones automatically re-enable it sometimes. It's extremely annoying.
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Post Post #42917 (isolation #1372) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:44 am

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In post 42914, Psyche wrote:ooh multiple laptops
...oh wait hey now i have multiple laptops!

this is exactly how i imagined joining the privilege club would feel

One is my work laptop that belongs to the department. The other one I don't really use anymore as it's pretty old. It's mostly only for nostalgic pornography.

I'm about to buy a fancy desktop for myself, as I don't really need a laptop anymore and I need to return my laptop to my academic department soon.
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Post Post #42919 (isolation #1373) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:49 am

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I've thought about getting a gaming mouse so that I can map some pings or activated items to the mouse. Does anyone do this? Is it worth adjusting to?
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Post Post #42920 (isolation #1374) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:49 am

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You just need to get a wireless mouse and then adjust to throwing it in your backpack. It's kinda annoying that the dongle permanently occupies a USB port, but pretty worth it.
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Post Post #42924 (isolation #1375) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:57 am

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A button for attack move would be nice. I'm awful at ADC and press A for it pretty often. I experimenting with mapping that to left-click, but the fringe cases ended up being annoying for me. Good advice.
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Post Post #42932 (isolation #1376) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:47 pm

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In post 42929, AngryPidgeon wrote:Is it even possible to play LoL without a mouse?

I did it that way my first few months playing.
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Post Post #42938 (isolation #1377) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:16 pm

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I want to try runeglaive Ez.
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Post Post #42960 (isolation #1378) » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:15 am

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I had a lane swap once while I was Vlad. I somehow went even with Sivir/Thresh, I think because Sivir just pushed, which kept me safe from Thresh.
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Post Post #42967 (isolation #1379) » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:17 pm

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Ani used to be an ADC main.
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Post Post #43018 (isolation #1380) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:03 am

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I got Olaf. ^^
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Post Post #43033 (isolation #1381) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:58 am

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Poppy's fine top as long as you don't first-pick her and get an awful match-up IMO. Kayle's getting a little buff next patch, so maybe that'll help her, but she's definitely not in great shape right now.
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Post Post #43035 (isolation #1382) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:59 am

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Tier 3 you can get at level 20.
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Post Post #43042 (isolation #1383) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:07 am

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I think they were actually changed like mid season 4, unless they dropped prices again at the start of 5.1.

Those changes are also what made scaling defensive runes usable in solo lanes.
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Post Post #43043 (isolation #1384) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:08 am

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Kayle is mediocre at all stages of the game after the repeated nerfs to her burst and DPS.

The buff to her melee form is going to improve her jungle clear mainly I think. She might be pretty OK with Sated Devourer. Her clear is super quick.
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Post Post #43059 (isolation #1385) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:43 am

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In post 43058, zoraster wrote:Sona with ardent censer is pretty powerful now. My understanding is that both the healed character as well as all those shielded by your aura get the bonus

Yep! She's always been amazing with that item, to the extent that I'd only (but always) pick her with team comps that would reliably use the aura in teamfights.
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Post Post #43061 (isolation #1386) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:49 am

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Rammus is a good pick if the other team has lots of autoattackers.
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Post Post #43064 (isolation #1387) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:08 am

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Kayle needed a scaling nerf or an ult CD nerf. She got both. D:

And that was after like 3 consecutive Q nerfs.
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Post Post #43070 (isolation #1388) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:24 pm

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If you are in a bush, you cannot be targeted unless the bush is warded.

It's also handy against champions like Vlad if you're more cooldown-gated.
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Post Post #43081 (isolation #1389) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:12 pm

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PSYCHE.

LORD OF THE JUNGLE.
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Post Post #43109 (isolation #1390) » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:31 am

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Vladimir into Heimer is great. You just farm passively until hextech, at which point you can get reliable free gold from his turrets with E.

Heimer will do the most damage in the game, but it won't matter.
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Post Post #43111 (isolation #1391) » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:05 am

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An even lane is a won lane for Vladimir. It's better than an even lane for Vladimir in this case because the turrets are reliable free gold.
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Post Post #43118 (isolation #1392) » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:09 pm

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In post 43115, zoraster wrote:Darius, garden, malph, and tryn all have good win rates against wukong

He has super high win rates against many others

That Ekko match-up. wtf.
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Post Post #43162 (isolation #1393) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:23 am

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He's good against Vlad.
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Post Post #43170 (isolation #1394) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:56 am

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I love watching her play Fiora.
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Post Post #43174 (isolation #1395) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:34 pm

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In post 43172, hiplop wrote:(She even mentioned you today oh god my heart)

I invited her to play with patrick and some other ppl but she did not respond. :(
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Post Post #43205 (isolation #1396) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:02 am

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Bloodthirster shield protects her strut passive now, which is a cool interaction.

Maybe that double lifesteal on-hit MF dream is closer to being a reality now.
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Post Post #43208 (isolation #1397) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:41 am

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Yes, her passive now only fall off if she takes "direct, non-periodic" damage.

It's not clear what that means, but the example of using shields to keep her passive going is included in the update text: "Digging into some of the other smaller changes, the updated Strut means shields will keep her passive up when fleeing or engaging and we’ve replaced Grievous Wounds on Impure Shots with new surprise strutting: activating her W now grants Miss Fortune’s passive instantly."
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Post Post #43211 (isolation #1398) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:48 am

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Her Q applies lifesteal twice and never crits, so early lifesteal already felt good on her, and the crit rush wasn't as strong on her as on other champions. The BT sustain also lets her use her W passive a little better.
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Post Post #43213 (isolation #1399) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:07 am

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I'm so excited for second item Rylai's on Vlad.

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