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In post 39707, JasonWazza wrote:Fuck that guy.
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If I had to suggest one champ per position...
Top: Renekton - Renekton is SO GOOD in lane. He very well may be the best melee laner is league of legends, honestly. You can obliterate virtually every top laner in existance with his kit as it is. On top of that, he can be built AD (I would only recommend this if ahead) and all of a sudden he's impossible to deal with as he heals for insane amounts and can one-shot practically everything. Tank renekton is a solid teamfighter and initiator, too!
Jungle: VI - Vi is essentially an easier (and less AOE) version of J4. Guaranteed engages coupled with a tri-force means you can practically solo a carry. She's also a great duelist.
Mid: Mordekaiser - Morde right now is in an AMAZING position. Due to the popularity of assassins in solo queue, and the buffs he recently got, he can build AP and wreck his laner. He also scales fantastically well and his ult can turn teamfights. Ult the enemy adc? 2 adcs. Ult the enemy ap? More damage for mordo. Tank? More health and something to tank towers amazingly with. He's one of the champions that struggles the hardest against disengage teams, however.
If you're looking for AD mids, Zed is great, but Talon is very underrated right now. I also really like Graves mid, as I've only lost once vs. standard mids with it. I also don't think that AD mids are really needed and are more luxury, however. It's totally fine to go triple AP and force the enemy team to rush all the MR so your adc can shred.
ADC: Graves - Graves wins a large majority of lanes (does well against EVERY ADC early save for Caitlyn, which can be worked around), his early and midgame are fantastic as well.
Support: Leona - Mostly because I noticed your lack of hard-engage supports (Thresh can do this, but Leona engages much better). Her presence is game is absurd and her passive is hidden OP. She's also extremely tanky, which means that not only are you on their squshies, but your team will struggle to kill you, giving your team a free teamfight.Last edited by animorpherv1 on Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:53 pm, edited 2 times in total."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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If I see one more Ezreal:
- Fail to finish a single item (read as: parts of items, and fail to finish them)
- Lose lane and proceed to blame everyone but himself
- BUILD A SHEEN THEN JUST SIT ON IT AND RUSH IE/BT
- Ask for adc then instalock Ezreal
I will throw this computer out of a window. Seriously, I've never seen an Ezreal win lane or go even. EVER. Useless champion is useless! I'm seriously convinced Ezreal is league's only troll champion."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 39790, Cabd wrote:Dunno man, my Tear-rushing jinx in ranked kinda matches that
I would take this over Ezreal."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 39797, Voidedmafia wrote:Very mobile; great synergy w/on-hit items/effects on Q; Q is good for poke, too; R is good for neutral snipes, and great for Teamfight damange if you get 2 or more hit by it (especially if you don't hit minions at all/until after champions.
ALL of this save "very mobile" is done by Jinx.
In post 39797, Voidedmafia wrote:From what I've gathered, though, Ezreal is amazing in either long teamfights (where he can Q for days and poke everyone down) or probably scattered teamfights (where he isn't being bum-rushed by everyone and their mother, and thus can focus down specific champions and use both his passive and on-hits to 1v1 his opponent down before the fight gets more centered (if it does; should Ez win while the fight goes south for his team, he can probably just E out).
If you don't like champs that need long teamfights to be effective, though, then I can see why you think he's useless.
... Jinx? Again? Rocket Q and W is great (and better) poke (you can't MISS an autoattack on 95% of champs), she does great in extended teamfights because of it, and scattered teamfights is AMAZING for Jinx because of her passive."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 39799, Iecerint wrote:His damage is super strong when he gets TF.
He's safer than other champions who also get really strong with TF in the midgame (Kog, Corki).
I think he used to be crowded out by Corki, but I think the balance is better after Corki's W mana cost was changed.
Congratulations, you have an ADC that does LESS DAMAGE than EVERY OTHER MIDGAME ADC at midgame, and makes up for it with a dash that costs almost as much mana as Corki's W.
So we have an ADC that:
- Does no damage for an ADC
- VERY High skillcap
- Low impact (Can steal dragon... so can most ADCs)
- Is extremely mobile
- Is mediocre at best in every phase
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So I think I just played against KOC? FWIW, he was amumu.
EDIT: Apparently I was wrong. Oh well. Still, humblebrag? I guess?"Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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So, I want to learn Swain. I know that Iece (I think it's Iece...) plays him, at least. Probably more. What do I do?"Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 39922, xRECKONERx wrote:I fucking hate Cho'Gath.
That champion has no counterplay potential. He's too tanky to dive on and burst down, he does surprising damage for a tanky character, and he has range/CC to keep you fucked hard when you're just trying to farm. There's actually no option to beat him.
AD Fizz (or anyone with %hp damage) wrecks him hard. Also dodging his spells are fairly easy for the most part."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 39939, Voidedmafia wrote:Urgot top lane? Why hasn't that been considered?
Because Urgot's been good for a while (and horrendously underplayed) as a lane bully in top."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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UGH. I've been 90+lp silver 1 several times. Every time I hit that someone feeds. FUCK SILVER SO MUCH.
WORST DIVISION EVER."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 39994, Oman wrote:In post 39984, Klazam wrote:quick question- does Sion's voiceover change between skins? I just read all of his lines and i find them badass, so I'm wondering if its the same for Lumberjack Sion
Yep. Lumberjack is visual only.
I don't know about the rest.
My Sion main friend says they do not change."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 39997, Klazam wrote:you have a lot of X-main friends, animorpherv1
I have a friend who plays a lot of things, and cycles between them at times."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40001, Oman wrote:I'm having a mad struggle with league at the moment. I'm still enjoying it, but I'm watching some massive losses. Especially games where I don't too badly myself. Not sure if it's just a streak or what.
Same here! I may just play as much morde as I can, tbh - he counters the meta mids amazingly well (and to a lesser extent he does well AGAINST many meta champs) and I love playing him,"Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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The header bar even says Teemo in it?
EDIT - Not Header Bar,but if you look at any link from offsite (like on facebook), it says Teemo on the thing."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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That's also assuming you go back everytime your sightstone is empty to refill it - which may not always be possible."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40205, quadz08 wrote:In post 40203, PJ. wrote:That's mostly a clear time nerf for sion where for sejuani it's a killing people nerf. And not one that is insignificant.
sej's ult nerf is maaaassiiiiive
How to get around sej ult nerf - HIT THE DAMN ULT. Also, she had a 56.68% winrate yesterday. Clearly it wasn't that big."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40214, PJ. wrote:if i keep having to support, it's gonna be a while
Janna, Nami, Thresh. All you need."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40216, PJ. wrote:mmm, what I need is not a guy taking Vayne into Leona graves.
Can't support that.
Play Janna and disengage leona every time she catches vayne. Or play Thresh and flay that bitch. Congratulations you just made leona useless and won the lane."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40219, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I hate supporting vayne so bad
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OK, a few things I feel that are worth noting, Cabd.
1) Cabd, you just hit 30 THIS SEASON. Not to be rude, but don't expect miracles. Especially going into ranked as soon as you hit 30 - that's bound to put you very low down on the list. I know people who have been playing for years and are still low bronze. You're a smart guy, with time you can climb out. Just don't expect miracles.
2) Supporting in low elo (coming from someone who's lowest division ever was silver 5) is awkward and can be very difficult.
3) What's your champion pool outside of support? I doubt it's big enough. IMO,you should have 3 champs you can play in each role at least. You can main a role, but at least being able to play multiple champs in every role ensures you don't get stuck in a lane you don't know how to play, or with a champ you barely know. I currently am able to play 16 top laners, 17 junglers, 17 mids, 9 adcs and 6 supports. Given, some of these are better than others and I can't play them all at the same level, but if I needed to pull them out, I could. Also, several of those are repeats (ex. I can play wukong top/jungle/mid).
Also, if you have questions, you are free to ask me via PM/league/skype/this thread.Last edited by animorpherv1 on Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:11 pm, edited 1 time in total."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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Here's a few things (both meta and not-meta) that I think are worthwhile to learn for more "carry-oriented" playstyles.
Top - Ryze, Jarvan, Darius, Nasus
Jungle - Kha'Zix, Vi, Master Yi
Mid - Katarina, Twisted Fate, Orianna, Leblanc (honestly just learn a thing that does tons of damage mid and you're fine)
ADC - Graves, Sivir, Miss Fortune
Sup - Janna, Annie
Honorable Mentions - Galio, Mordekaiser, Volibear, Trundle
Sidenote - Lee Sin is only worth putting time into if you REALLY want what Lee Sin offers. Otherwise, I would recommend Jarvan and Pantheon a few hundred times more."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40234, PJ. wrote:None of those top laners are really gonna carry. And ryze isn't good right now.
So you're telling me that Nasus and Darius cannot carry games in BRONZE. Also, Ryze is great now. He lost 20 base damage a while ago, and just gained 15 back. It's all he's gonna get I think, and at the very least he's viable.
I mean, there's always Hecarim and Irelia and whatnot, but I was trying to givesomeoptions that not EVERYONE plays and knows of."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40233, PJ. wrote:Mmm. I doubt you can beat people of equal skill level with 64 different champs.
Solo laning is kinda hard to carry from. At least it is in top lane. Spent a whole season dominating silver top laners with Jayce when he came out with ridiculous scores and just couldn't win consistently.
As I said, several of these champions share positions (aka I play champs in more than one role), and I'm weaker on some champs than with others, but they're just champions I can pick if I need to. In the end, I think that I can play about 50 champions somewhere between "good enough to not feed with" (which is the bare minimum of what you need to be able to do in ranked) and "this is my best champion 100%".
In regards to carrying from top, you either get a lead and tpgank bot 50,000 times to get them ahead (and get more towers & drag), or you get behind and tpgank bottom for the 3v2 while the enemy top laner doesn't notice you tp'd and farms the lane like an idiot."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40240, PJ. wrote:Ryze has a 45% win percentage right now and just flat not strong anymore. The premier mage tops are vlad, swain, and rumble. All my nasus experience has been exactly as k scope said, " lots of stacks, team too far behind to kill anyone". I think jax gets stronger earlier than the other "late game" champs and he also is a kill threat in lane, like fiora. I love when my top laner takes teleport and doesn't use it to recover from me zoning/killing them. If you tp while I'm in lane to gank, I'm definitely taking at least a tower. Darius isn't a carry . He can carry but his scaling isn't great and he is the most kitable champ in the league. I lick my chops when I'm a long range adc against darius. In order to win in bronze/most of silver you need to effect the whole game, you need to kill your idiot laner, take tower, than go kill the idiot mid laner, than kill the dragon , than kill the idiot bot laners. Irelia, fiora, jax, wukong, whatever. Beat your man, beat his tower and use that money to go beat all the other mans.
Going to break these down by champion.
RYZE
If we're going by the "low winrate = bad champion", these champions are also bad.
- Leblanc
- Lee Sin
- Ezreal
- Rengar
- Lissandra
- Orianna
- Jax
- Trundle
- Lucian
- Zed
- Jarvan
- Fizz
All of those champions have an under 48% winrate RIGHT NOW and you ether told me is a good champion or are generally considered good champions. So much for Jax being good, eh? That's also leaving out champs here that I think others may disagree with - Olaf, Syndra, and Nocturne. Ryze can also get going with one and a half items (roa + tear), and has pretty decent spammable snares for tp ganks. Rumble, Swain, and Vlad bring slows, and Swain/Vlad don't even bring that much damage until a while later unless they're fed.
NASUS
I find one common misconception with Nasus - he's easy to shut out of lane. His passive is kind of crazy, so a good Nasus will just let you push him under turret and freefarm with Q or NOT CARE BECAUSE HE STARTED FLASK. Also, his first buy tends to be whatever defensive item counters your lane the most (spirit visage when vs. AP, randuin's or FH when vs. AD), so combine that with his passive and his ult and that means you do literally no damage to him unless you feel like huge amounts of armor pen (viable on some champs, not most). Most champions have until Nasus' first back to actually shut him down, because after that he will not care about your damage between his defensive items, ult, and passive.
We all know Nasus' stacking mechanic is INSANE. If he gets out of lane phase at all, prepare to be in one hell of a ride, because wither pretty much is a snare. Granted, a Nasus that is behind will not be useful, but a Nasus that gets ahead has really good tpganks (because you can max wither first on nasus if you want to).
DARIUS
First of all - kiting? In BRONZE? Good luck with that. Aside from that, Darius is literally everything you listed that a good toplaner needs to do ti win. Able to snowball VERY HARD off of an early lead, has massive amounts of kill pressure in lane, can help snowball other lanes decently well and can help take objectives because of the auto reset on his W.
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Am I saying that the champs you listed are bad choices? HELL NO. Every champion, if played well enough, can win at any rating (if you told me a few weeks ago Keane would play Urgot against Bjergsen and not only win with it but make that champion competitively viable, then I'd call you a crazy liar). I also wanted to give some picks that weren't what everyone else would say."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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Just so we're keeping track here, Ryze's winrate over this patch is about 48%, just sites like lolking use multiple days of winrate to determine "actual winrate". What I'm just trying to state with Ryze is that winrate does not fully equal how good a champion is. Never has, never will. If that was the case Heimer would be league's 3rd best champion (is he good? sure. 3rd best? I'd stray far away from that). I also rate Ryze highly because I like to play him and tend to find success on him.
Regarding Nasus, I tend to see a lot of really good Nasus' who either take over or almost take over the game, and I'm sick of him, so yeah. I rate him very highly because of how hard he is to truly shut down and how terrifying he can be."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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Also. I swear to god gold v is worse than any division in silver. Currently sitting at -16lp from 3 dodges and 3 lost games in a row. I was at 57lp earlier in the day~"Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40311, zoraster wrote:your own dodges?
Yup. One of them was my bad (locking in a role that was already filled accidentally) but the others were bs like first time leblanc (into malz) who was planning on rushing roa."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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I'm sick of urf. If you don't play the op champs (which I don't own or can't play in urf) you lose. ALL THE TIME. I dont understand how being blown up every 2.5 seconds is fun."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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Just fucking lagged through an entire promos game, but not the game I played 5 minutes before.
Fuck this game right now.
EDIT - And game 3 is clarity/clairvoyance urgot stating he'll afk, and I have to dodge at the last second.
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This was a match.
So, I stole baron from nid/cho as lee sin, yay ^_^. That game was crazy and their poke was intense, but we made a huge comeback because we couldn't find a good fight at all until then."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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We had no real way of engaging on them thanks to morg, and that lead was set to grow by a lot. They had just taken 2 turrets & an inhib thanks to their poke. Was it a big comeback? In the aspect that it stopped a team's win in it tracks, yes."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40566, zoraster wrote:In post 40564, Klazam wrote:stole baron from cho? dat cho needs uninstalling
Also, the cho wasn't jungling, so cho would have to beat smite with feast... not smite vs. smite+feast. Even if Cho was 16 at the time (probably at 45?) he only had 130 AP, so his feast was doing 741 true damage. At level 16, smite does 900 damage.
They had 2 different executes & a smite for well over 2,000 damage.I'm not doing 2k damage with smite + q as Lee. Keep in mind I was also like 3 levels under Nidalee at that time."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40570, zoraster wrote:what was the other execute? unless you're on voice comms, the idea that you should be able to time different champions' executes along with smite is laughable.
Don't get me wrong, it's still amazing to steal a baron, etc. Just pointing out that it's not really cho's fault.
Nidalee Q."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40655, PJ. wrote:I don't think he got level 2 but he definitely started golem killed it and died, then tped to lane. Sounds not good but cause wasting tp right away.
If he didn't get 2 he didn't clear the entire camp, which should have happened."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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I have a friend who plays a lot of Nasus (70+ games iirc, 76% winrate and is gold), and he says that it's really hard to find a matchup that Nasus actually loses, and I tend to agree. His passive with either cloth + 5 or flask + 3 is kind of insane levels of sustain. Also, since Nasus tends to be under tower a lot WITH TELEPORT that means Nasus should be able to get out of lane more often than not. If you rush spirit visage vs. ap, mages can't hurt you at all. If you rush frozen heart or randuin's vs. AD, a large majority of bruisers cannot hurt you. If you're really far ahead somehow, triforce is kind of insane."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40701, KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:Stole dragon with a soraka q yesterday. Fun stuff
I stole baron with galio q a few days ago."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 40771, Iecerint wrote:Ryze is a cute bearded CEO.
I actually have great hopes with the Ryze rework after a few buffs that are on the PBE. Can't wait to play it!"Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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... this was a match
WHY DO YOU DISCONNECT WHEN YOU HAVE A FED AS FUCK KASADIN ON YOUR TEAM. WHYYYYY. This game is just intent on having me lose whenever possible. I need help.."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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