Newbie 2119 Mafia PT

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Oh fuck yes.

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Not a clue

I'm excited for this, even in my TTS mafia I've not rolled scum in months. What column are we in?

Ninja'd yeee go on then.

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Should be a good one - looking forwards to it!

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I think what we should do in reference to a post is just do the {url='(post url)'} #post no. {\url} tag

So I reckon in Vox's #8 is accurate, for instance.

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You've got a chunk of reading to do chief

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Hi mate,

Broadly there is a few little things going on at the moment, I've gotten in a bit of a pickle where Dragon/Venmar/Comet all SR me but for reasonably loose reasons - I'm confident I can bat it off.

Dragon says I'm 'too scummy to be scum' which is I guess helpful?

I've been away for a few days at an expo so I'm playing catchup from Saturday Morning myself.

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How are you feeling with D1 now you're caught up?

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I think it was silly and goofy yeah ahaha - it was a weird way to read it but I don't think you've copped any flak for it.

Happy's play is odd enough to push for a mislim but it may be worth keeping them into D2 for a 2nd day mislim

Patch is a really odd one, this is the first game where I'm townreading them (lol, all it took was me being scum) but their play doesn't feel like they're suspecting me for any good reason and I'm still confident that I can overcome the Comet/Venmar/Dragon push. It doesn't feel like it has any momentum so I'm not even addressing it at the moment.

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Yeah that's fair mate I can appreciate that. Have a nice evening and we'll kick back on this tomorrow.

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So you get up to speed easier from the last 8 pages, here's some events and themes:

Happy tunneled Black, then was called out for not actually reading everyone's ISO and just pushing. They backed out of it. Their play is ridiculously weird.

Patch is contradicting themselves a lot - currently vote on me but it's reasonably overturnable

Black has suspicions of Patch
Dragon is in a lot of limpools
Venmar feels like they're wavering on Bella.

I'm going into V/LA this evening because I'm working away tomorrow and won't have much access

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Yeah, that's fair. I'm still kind of weirdly unconcerned? I'm in a lot of limpools but I'm not the only one who will argue against my own lim.

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I've got a day away with work to clear the ol' noggin so I'll come back with a bang mate

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Dropped a readslist, spot the crumb.

I think I'm in enough people's limpool that this is a good shout. If it doesn't get picked up then we can use it later.

As I said in thread, I might have a sliver of time tomorrow to have a ganders at the thread but no promises.

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Right, I'm back.

I think Bella saw the crumb and is just a townie advocating against a cop having to out themselves. If they are in fact a cop, then I would imagine that they would not outright come out and advocate against a Delta lim.

What are your thoughts on end-of-day play here?

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Yeah

Gigapost incoming so may want to hold fire on that

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I dont feel secure enough in a 5v4 split to avoid taking the L today.

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Yeah dont post yet

You'll SEE my post when it comes haha

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BANG and the post is done

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If today goes against us, I'll claim cop as per my crumb.

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Yeah no worries mate

Potential patch mislim coming, and Venmar and I have butted heads again in what I am hoping plays off as TvT.

Lets catch up tomorrow about last day strats and the like. I'm fancying a Bella roleblock.

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Have a nice evening!

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I think I'm sticking to my Dragon for now, but I've planted a seed with Patch - they got the VC wrong

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Innocent enough mistake, but potential to sow some discord and make them a bit more limmy tomorrow.

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Do what you think is natural when you read it back, it gives us options I think

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Struggling to find a natural way over onto Bella.

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True

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Option one I prefer though, fits a bit better. Dragon and Comet won't comply with that I dont think but Happy seems to reliably TR me

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Which also works because I've made a concerted Anti-Happy mindset push over the last day or so. Whilst I'd expect to go tomorrow, I think we can sow enough discord to make it natural.

Lets see how it pans out

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If Bella claims PR, I'll claim the other PR and try to force out a CC - you can watch for something weird happening in the votes to see who the counter is.

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Bella is at E-2. If Happy votes I'll quickhammer and take the L tomorrow.

I don't see a better way out of today tbh

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Yeah I'll do it now actually. Happy is guaranteed not to vote me.

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Hah, that'll teach me not to check notifications before posting.

Well, it's done now

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I'm confirming that Bella is lying

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One of her or I goes today

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Best of luck

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My gut is that forcing a cross is better in the current situation. If we can elim one of the PR's today I have faith that you can take the other one out through good reading

Yeah CC'ing doctor without saying it yet

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She flips today, I claim Tracker or Jailkeeper tomorrow

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Unless I'm forced to claim today, this works and nails us both PRs

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Eh it won't work haha I just clocked it.

Oh well at least we remove the Doc and who knows

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Well I haven't specifically claimed, just crumbed

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Thread locked?

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Bella is at E-1 so why is it locked haha

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Well your PR vibes are good tbf

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You've gotta take into account the associatives as well

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And say like 'She can only be a Vanilla Townie'?

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Fuck yeah

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I think specifically CC'ing here isn't the play

I crumbdrop cop tomorrow and we vibe

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I'm almost definitely going D2, the best I can do is draw the cop out

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Yeah, in Column 3

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I think I claim cop, use the crumb to back it up and just intimate that I fucked up badly

Claiming tracker won't work I think

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It was the Grand National today and I live in Liverpool... I could say I was pissed as a fart after Aintree and 'forgot' I posted - Black knows from a completed that I have precedent for forgetting I post things as town ahahaha

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I honestly think claiming cop, arguing that it was column 3 but opening with like a 'Hic, what happened?' after could be a fun play

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I think actually an 'I Fucked Up' post now might be okay

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Then you Block Bella & kill in my wagon - 1/5 odds (1/4 if you're on it).

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I've dropped the ball here everyone

I thought Bella was mechanically not able to be scum but I didn't read the newbie setup right (I've never really had to before) - I'm not able to confirm that she's lying about her claim
Mechanically it fits.

Thoughts?

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Can I get your thoughts sharpish on this

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I think it brings out the Cop today

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I think that's better than anything and honestly it's the play I feel works best here

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Bella crumbed

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I'm posting my fuckup at :25 unless there's a good reason not to - I need to get ahead of this before it goes too far and ruins the chance of dragging out Cop

If I die today that's fine

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I feel like I really should

If nothing else it creates a lot of confusion

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I think it should be an 'I fucked up' post first

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RIP

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Yeah

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It feels nice to no-brain it rather than consciously overthink

Im not going to openly claim cop just yet

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I dont think you've harmed anything, maybe throw a 'whaaa?' in there

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My stomach has fallen out of my arse here

this might just come through

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Pre-emptively saying good luck for tomorrow.

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Depends on if there is a counter.

I think kill Bella, RB the counter - it has to be a cop now.

If I die and there's no clear counter, I think maybe Black or Happy for the RB?

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Im doubling down on the shooketh!cop play.

In terms of D1 where do you think the play is from here?

I think there's a way I sell this and we still glean a Bella lim out of it, or at least we play a good confusing end of day

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I kind of think it's working (or at least not not working)

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Not Patch

Potentially Comet though

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I think if you want to let this play out, people know you're GMT+1 don't they so you can justifiably just ride this out?

At your discretion, but be aware that Black would probably scumread you for it

Yeah I think a fairly junior mistake. Tried it, bit of a mistaken gambit but everyone seems suitably confused which is a giggle

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There's still the possibility I survive this

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Worth it even if we dont lim Bella/Comet.

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Block Bella, Kill Comet

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Yeah of course haha

Do what you think is best man - wish I was here over the course of D2/3 in order to stay scum with you, but at least you know where to put your blocks and kills now!

Bella will be dangerous AF - they actively think it's you as well so be aware of that

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Potential - I think you could do well in a Patch/Happy 3P - Patch TR's you pretty blindly

I'm ready for the great beyond if you think the play is for you to do it

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You're the primary scummer now haha, it's in your hands

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Hang fire - I have one last townslip card to play

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Best of luck gaffer - I have every faith in you.

Bring us home the bacon!

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Yeah - it kind of banked on that didn't it - hopefully the Bella read doesn't shine through

I think Bella is your kill tonight

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I think that could be fun

Mechanically she isn't clear

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Fuck it - the expose the PRs gambit worked - do it.

Throw a hail mary, king ahaha