Newbie 2119 Mafia PT

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Where’s that PM where you asked for this

I’ve only rolled town once in the five games since I’ve come back on site ahhh I’m gonna have to backstab patch again I don’t know if I can do it :’)

But dude imagine if we both pull off our best ever obvTown games this could be carnage

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What does the [post] tag do???

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Also Roleblocker, not rolecop for once

Let’s get that PR outed d1 :devil:

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is what I wanted damn

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I’m hyped for this now lol

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Cop/Doc
JK/Tracker
Mason/Mason

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Watch I’ll get copped n1 and have to push the fake pr result angle AGAIN

Tbf if I’d been town, it would have been a master stroke for scum to pull that this game after how last game went down (like no one would believe me)

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I think shea means that if you quote a post or direct to a post in the PT others won’t have access to the link so it would out you as scum (or Mason lol)

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We have no reason to quote stuff in here or link to stuff in here in the game thread though. Nothing wrong with quoting within the PT.

Mines all purple so no risk of mixing it up imo

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Fml where have all these posts come from lol

Gimme a heads up on what I need to know? I might do a read myself first but then I’ll check in here before posting maybe. I won’t be active in thread til tomorrow at the earliest.

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So I probably should have just caught up from the start rather than this weird let’s read the latest pages first stuff. And I definitely should have read the Bella slip before taking a stand on it. It’s sloppy but I felt under time pressure to get out what I could lol.

I genuinely hadn’t read anything about the slip until she mentioned it and all of that was “natural” in terms of the timing of my reads and posts page by page. Maybe I should have been more careful because I’m scum but like. I’d have done that as town too lol.

Gonna get onto p1+ later today~

Wish me luck!

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I’ve cornered myself a bit with the dragon / bella thing and I wish I’d just read properly from the start and I could have manufactured a more solid looking stance. But hey ho.

Happy looks like an easy push at some point

Bella, dragon, hopefully one will go down today

I think I’ve got some people on board despite my weird way of catching up. Bella will never tr me this game. Black is going to be a pain but also keeps pushing me for things ive not done so hopefully I can deflect against that if it comes to it.

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Patch looks like an av buddy if I do go down

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For postgame: I’m genuinely fuming right now, this is not scum theatre or AtE. I’m pissed off. I’ll be back tomorrow.

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Weird =/= scummy unfortunately, hopefully it’s pushable!

Patch I need to get into a bit more, I like legit don’t get any sort of feeling off his posts beyond nodding along, I think he’s actually pocketed me as town loool

I’ve had to start pushing you a bit for some oddness in previous posts but hopefully it’s all outdated, looks like you’re in 5/8 limpool atm without me tho so it’s better I show willing at this point. Maybe think about what fakeclaim you wanna make if you get pushed to e-1. Maybe cop so they cc and I can roleblock them, or dr so I can rb them and kill anyone we choose…

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I think my readslist and votes are bad but at this point I just can’t put any more effort in lol

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Noice

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Do you think Bella could be cop here?

Not wanting to deal with venmar today reads to me like she knows her push won’t go anywhere today so she’s planning on investigating him tonight so that she has clarity tomorrow. Also could explain why she wants the day over now.

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I think I can vote you here + Venmar gets on you (4)
Black and happy swap to dragon (5)

Risky but I’m gonna go for it #yolo

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(Also I don’t mean Bella saw your crumb
I mean she is against going for venmar today
Because she wants to cop them)

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Bella’s been tr’ing you for ages anyway hasnt she?

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I’ll say I’m leaning delta but want to digest dragons wall post then

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Or just not post yet is also fine

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K I’ll hold off

Still convinced you’re not the lim today ha but will wait anyway

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Also enjoying the decaying tr between black and venmar

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I’m watching a movie with the wife tonight so can’t really get on to post, I’ll try to get on in the morning and see where we’re at~

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Patch over dragon? Spicy. I thought dragon would be your alternative!

Deffo blocking Bella for my cop suspicions ha
Probably a kill on comet?

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Ahhhh

I was prepping for a dragon vote but you’ve said you’d prefer a no lim in your catchup and now I’m having to swing back to you

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Ffs I have a post ready to go which ends in voting you but I need to wait for happy to switch to dragon so that patch doesn’t lolhammer you ha

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Could you maybe post something at happy like quoting them so they get a notification? And get them to swap onto dragon

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Then I’m happy to vote you as black doesn’t hammer and patch has no reason to swap since dragon would also be at e-1

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Or I vote you. Acknowledge that happy is functionally putting dragon at e-1 and state my willingness to vote dragon to ensure a lim if we run out of time

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Patch is the loose cannon
I also don’t like putting you at e-1 in case someone pressures you for a claim and eg cop!bella votes you

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I’m tempted to read happy as a Mason soft claim to avoid getting on you, but if I interrogate it you’ve called happy scum so that doesn’t work either hrrrmmm

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I don’t think you necessarily need one

Venmar should vote Bella

And then it’s only one of comet / dragon / happy that need to comply

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Also you can always justify as if it’s between you or Bella you’d naturally prefer Bella cos you know you’re town etc

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Don’t worry about quickhammer I think we’ve got this sorted tbh

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Maybe vote her “if the alternate is me anyway” style?

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Or if happy e-1s her you could at least push Bella for a claim and if she does claim vt then at least your hammer isn’t an instalim tomorrow

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How does being cop confirm Bella is lying! You may need to say you got it wrong lol

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Unless you are ccing doctor lol

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Yeah just play dumb that you didn’t realise it wasn’t actually a cc

Remember I made it through the tracker guilty last game

I fear being copped following a Bella green flip but maybe I can survive that

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There was a play here tho without 1v1ing because no single pr would know Bella was lying, but you probably then be switched to (which might have allowed us to out both prs today tbf)

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Shea mistake ha

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The play here is to claim tracker tomorrow and say you looked at the matrix wrong (tracker with jk col a, tracker with friendly neighbour col b) and say you missed tracker with doc at the bottom of col b

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Then when you’re run up you basically say you know you fucked up but why would you fake it when it’s your death warrant etc and we hope someone (and if neeeeeded then it can be me) says that unless there’s another person who can state you’re lying then we have to believe you

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Then that way we out the cop

I have no idea who cop is tho, I thought it was Bella lol

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I’ll have basically a 2/6 chance to hit the cop with either the kill or the rb so not bad odds

I’ll probably rb someone who scumreads me just in case lol

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Shit pal I wonder
If you out your cop crumb
And then let someone be like

Delta that isn’t a cc you idiot

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Wait what do you mean?

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Why could she only be a vt?

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It might just get you limmed tbf

I’m not sure if tracker claim is better tomorrow

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Let’s think before posting

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I’d claim tracker tomorrow anyway as it’s at least believable that you made the mistake

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Is there a solo cop pr slot?

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So yeah you could claim Cop and say you only looked at col c but I feel like that’s a harder mistake to make, the benefit is you have the cop crumb

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I don’t know…is this with the view to you being limmed today?

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Now that Bella has crumbed you maybe have to, but no one is pushing you to, maybe wait and see what happens.

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But yeah you could say you have also crumbed and see if anyone wants it

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Yeah fuckup post first
Then crumb post if people want it

If you want to go for it then please feel free
I’ll vote you and limit the cop hit to 1/4

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Sounds like black still wants Bella limmed

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Maybe don’t post yet

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It might actually work because like
Why would you do this lol

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Wish I hadn’t posted anything in thread now lol

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If you go down who would your call be for rb/kill?

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Black I don’t think because black didn’t cc
Personally I think black, comet aren’t prs

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Hmm why did you unvote dragon?

I’m gonna come in unvote and not cc

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Cop not:
- Bella
- black
- comet
- happy
- av
- delta

So could be one of:
- Patch
- Dragon
- venmar

I have a 1/3 shot, if we can lim one of them then that gives us 1/2

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It coooould be comet cos they were a bit funky about things

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Who’s voting you atm?

Comet patch dragon venmar?

Bella probably hammers you tbh so I dunno if I should swing for you

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Think you basically steered the lim off Bella and onto yourself lol but never mind we live and learn!

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Ooooh black coming in with the stuff I want to say but can’t for fear of partner links later lol

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Yep yep yep

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It worked out exactly as you intended, well done on the big play mate!

Risky gamble but paid off!

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I’ll vote you anyway

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Happy, Bella won’t vote comet or be here to vote her so the best I can do is bus I’m afraid

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Line from here

Delta d1 lim
N1 Bella rb comet nk
Black d2 lim
N2 Bella nk

Leaves me with venmar, patch, dragon and happy

If nothing else changes patch and happy tr me
Could possibly swing a lim on venmar or happy

NK Dragon (but why not nk vox?)

Patch + happy/venmar 3p?

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Bella nk and rb comet?

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Black vs comet for d2?

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It’s a shame black said they believed comet before I got around to the hammer post cos now it looks a little like I had no choice lol

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What do you think about just constantly rb’ing Bella and keeping her alive for the paranoia that we’re in col c???

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I’m tired of playing things down the line
That route to victory disappeared when delta cc’d bella as cop

We have to go full paranoia mode here
Big balls and big plays

Let’s keep Bella alive and get people wondering why she’s not dead

RB Bella

(every night if I can just lock that in now!)

Kill Comet

The plan is to see how tomorrow goes and if Bella pushes me and gets me limmed then well done town deserve the victory.

But if I make it to n2 and I feel like I can get away with it I’ll leave bella alive (if there’s a natural nk choice as well) and start planting the seeds for an av bella ??? 3p

I feel like i lose that probably more than a patch happy/venmar 3p tho so maybe the paranoia play isn’t the way

And if I’m doing that then do I keep comet alive and no bella?

Pretty sure that implicates me more than a comet kill though

Well I’ve submitted actions for now, I can always change them before deadline right?

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Shooting my shot at black

Tonight I either kill Bella and go after patch/happy/venmar tomorrow

Or i go dragon tonight and keep bella alive for the column paranoia

Bella pushes me at 5p, but I try to swing it onto patch probably

Then I’m committed by that point and have to go into a difficult 3p with happy/venmar and bella

And just hope that Bella wifoms herself as to why she’d be kept alive with me - like surely scum av would have killed her by now? I say I’m being kept alive for the 3p mislim and just hope I can push through Bella’s sr of me (assuming I don’t eat rope d3)

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Probably 3p would be Bella / Venmar because happy I don’t think would make the bella/av 3p play

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Hopefully it’s not too obvious that I’m seeding Bella doubt with that post just now

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I feel like killing Bella here is the easier route if I can keep patch alive

But where’s the fun in that ha

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Going after black here might paint a target on my back but I feel like keeping patch alive will mean I could push a different mislim d3

If black is alive tomorrow they’re pushing me for the d4 lim

I need black to go down before patch so that they’re not around to revise their reads based on patch being town

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Also like no one is going to buy Bella scum it seems so she’s probably just the kill tonight

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Venmar has given me the roadmap to victory, but is he leading me along, ready to vote me in 3p??

Imagine I throw the Bella bomb in there and nk venmar instead lol just as happy predicted

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YO

I have been prodded

Fuck me o am druuuunk

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I wish Bella would just hammer already lol

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RB and kill Bella

I’m debating whether to keep Bella alive for maximum paranoia but I think she’d just vote me in any endgame and I’m not sure the other players would buy her as 1% scum play

Although I do feel like Bella would be less motivated to push me tomorrow than dragon but que sera sera

If I change my mind I’ll come back here

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Just in case you need both on separate lines or something

RB Bella
Kill Bella

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Not that the roleblock mattered anyway but I wanted to rb her anyway for suggesting I’m scum

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I kinda wanna keep patch alive today if they’ll let me

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Fuck it

I’m going full on scumread everyone and see what sticks

It’s probably really fuckin transparent but let’s see if we can’t swing a dragon lim

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Also black must be fuuuuurious in the dead thread right now

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So now patch is anti-dragon it looks like that won’t happen, so it’s gotta be happy today if I want to keep patch alive

The problem is then: why would venmar take vox and patch to endgame?

And: Why would dragon take vox and patch to endgame?

I might have to kill patch tonight and rely on the wifom of why would I put myself in a worse position

But: could I argue venmar vox patch? If I show enough of a willingness to vote patch.

If venmar takes vox/patch he’d be hoping vox votes patch even though patch votes venmar.

With dragon, he doesn’t know if dragon would vote him or patch; and patch has just said he doesn’t think it’s dragon, and dragon has said he doesn’t think it’s patch. So maybe that’s riskier.

I wanted to ask Patch earlier who they’d vote if both them and their suspect were at e-1 and I wish I had asked it before these recent votes because really i don’t want to side with either person yet.

There’s not enough support for venmar lim, or a patch lim without patch self voting, or a dragon lim, or a vox lim. So it’ll have to be happy. But that also relies on waiting out deadline a bit too and I don’t want to lurk my way to the end lol.

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Oh also. The above concerns about endgames was assuming a town!patch pov.

Patch likely keeps me alive into endgame with his suspect so it shouldn’t look suspicious to venmar to hit that endgame.

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Wait

Don’t I also have a good chance in a happy-vox-venmar 3p too?

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So I could come in and vote patch (patch probably self votes) then nk dragon

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From happy pov venmar keeps me alive because I express suspicion of happy

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I probably should have just gone for patch and hoped happy voted venmar tbh

Hopefully the vote/push on happy hasn’t gone so far that happy now suspects me more than venmar

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STD gonna vote me right :’(

Dragon eater was going to vote happy and let me have my patch 3p but now I’m all a-tizz

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Hopefully std finds me a beacon of towniness

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I overplayed it again ffs
Should have just stick to patch

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This is why replacements annoy me as scum tho

I made the happy play based on dragoneater wanting to lim happy

Fml

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There’s a very high chance std moves venmar onto me and convinces happy

I’ve kinda decided I don’t really care at this point sorry lol

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Also it’s probably very transparent why I’ve shifted at this point but again

I’m kinda in yolo mode