Open 876 - Ice Mafia PT

[yessiree]

wow i did not expect a scum role PM LOL

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I genuinely did not expect usesPython to replace out like that as scum and I fully expected to replace into a town slot haha

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hello

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thats the thing, i thought the tilt with osuka was genuine town frustration, cause no way they weren't gonna capitalize on that

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God I love powerwolfing

guess this explains it, they were playing a pretty decent scum game, kinda scary not gonna lie

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i was trying to find out why they replaced out, so i only skimmed python's ISO, it had plenty of substance and they seemed motivated to game solve. on top of being a hyperactive poster, so i was townreading them for sure

[yessiree]

especially the last 2 posts showing genuine emotions which i think are very very hard to replicate as scum

people tend to townread that for sure

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actually im probably gonna pivot off that as a reason to replace into the slot

something like "python v osuka did not seem like SvS scum theater, osuka being abrasive isn't AI, but i associate abrasiveness in general as more town-AI, python v osuka most likely to be TvT, etc"

[yessiree]

im also gonna pretend i did not read much of the game when d2 starts because "just look at my slot is so townie thats why i replaced in!"

and i thought i had a pretty high likelihood of being nk'ed because reasons haha

[yessiree]

So what was the dynamics like between you and python? anything in particular that i should be aware of?

i dont know if i wanna spend too much effort defending python's play since i think thats too much self-consciousness which is scum-AI, im just gonna re-iterate why i think they are town before i replaced in and that i got a town role PM so (shrug)

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oh btw can you explain the kill on osuka to me? are we avoiding shooting obvtowns like python suggested?

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:highfive:
im in the same boat as you tbh

i think the choice is fine, python might've wanted to shoot osuka out of spite, but since they are no longer here it becomes good WIFOM material

[yessiree]

Im actually thinking Malakittens + Black, both are individually scummy

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Black is deliberately staying in the nullread range, generally non-committal and non-confrontational, but still mostly a gut read for me at this point

[yessiree]

well if people still want to flip Black today I'm not gonna complain

[yessiree]

do you know what was enchant's read on my slot?

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lol sorry if that question was kinda random, think of it as me tryna distance

[yessiree]

hmm im unable to form a scumread on bulge, python is the +scum looking one from the bulge vs python exchange

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Like, in particular, I'd really like to hear how Mala apparently decided there was scum between bianco and Black, struggled to get out a bianco vote while apparently hopped up on NyQuil or something, and now we get no info on any of that, just a weird vote on Enchant for a very Enchant-like post. Maybe Mala wants us to forget all that but... it's a little hard to forget.

it would be cool if you can drop a casual remark on how mala is getting voted but not oclaxian when they both went after Enchant, I have some bs I can put out there to paint mala in a bad light when compared with ocla, so hopefully someone hammers

[yessiree]

if mala flips scum, mala's partner will most definitely shoot the one that hammered, so we have more nk choices

if mala flips town, im thinking we shoot in {furtive, kokichi}

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10 of us remain; 4 scum.

I don't really see 4 scum full stop, let alone 4 without Mala. But let me give it a try.

[Black, Malakittens] + [The Bulge, Kokichi Oma]

whats ur hypothetical teams? thinking mines probably {black, mala} + {bulge, aureal (you)} with my current headspace

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resisting urge to scumread this post lol, I dont think the kind of questions you are asking here are from a town mindset

Kokichi, do you still think Mala and Black are on opposing scum teams? I'm struggling to make sense of this dynamic. If Mala is scum, why go back and forth on Black from sheeping to scumreading like she did, say there's got to be scum between her and bianco, then totally drop that thought after bianco flips town? It's too chaotic.

do u think u can handle a little bit of pressure?

[yessiree]

sure why not, go for it
idk if I'd shoot you if I were fire maf though, i'd try to take you to endgame

[yessiree]

leaving this here

Spoiler: bulge on mala

hi mala!

VOTE: mala

im sorry it has to be this way

grim: well theres the difference lol. we dont read alts as their main, nor do we metaread bc meta is shit.

also elaborate on those vibes.

Basically the only people who I'd expect to make a serious push on Mala here are people who know Mala's meta (Where they don't normally do the unvotes like this), Dragon hasn't played with Mala before though so I'd have expected him to mentally slot Mala in the chaotic!Town box or something

idgi

mainly the part about mala's meta

mainly the part about mala's meta

The vote hopping is pretty out of character from Mala from what I've seen, they're not usually this flighty? I guess would be the word?

-A

seems a little early to make a call lke this but ok

Mala is likely scum too. But I think opposite team from black so far is my read.

why is that?

Mala's kinda just existing this game

-A

furtive and icedragon and aureal as well

mala wagon looks like good enough company, tho i'd still prefer python. will catch up this afternoon

caught up!

idk mala doesn't really seem partnered

Malakittens - some not great posts but nothing that makes any sense to me from scum, bad d1 lim, seems unpartnered as i mentioned

[yessiree]

you're overthinking too much

that ISO is scummy as hell lol

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like it's just so weird, a significant portion of bulge's ISO is about Mala, and a significant portion of Mala's ISO is about Black

now I want to flip bulge instead

[yessiree]

lol drew hammered

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ah crap i was about to post but thread got locked

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one scum is on the wagon for sure, but whoi have no clue

[yessiree]

Subject: Open 876 - Fire and Ice - Night 2

fair enough i guess

Python really was super confident on myself and Bulge being a scum team, what is your opinion?

lol he did ask me this early in the day, what do u make of it? seems kinda odd scum!drew would ask that and show he is self-conscious about it

[yessiree]

Kill: Doctor Drew

ok i made up my mind, you're probably right that fire maf is drew + bulge, and with bulge being the easier target to lim, so

Received.

[yessiree]

dont put pressure on me now, this is my first scum game in years LOL

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I literally have no idea whos the remaining scum, could be anyone at this point LOL

The only position I wanna be in right now is to place as much as distance possible between us to confuse both town and for Maf

Send me a PM if u need me to move my vote cause that's the only way I get a notification

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Oh my bad I forgor

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woke up today and thought you were hammered, then realized it was a dream I had last night LOL did not feel good parking my vote at E-2, but looks like it paid off though

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Black + Bulge?

All of a sudden black starts pushing me after I put bulge at e-2, timing is very sus

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LOL WHAT IS THAT FLIP

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it's actually enchant + ocla my 2 biggest townreads OMG

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but then again i have zero confidence in any read at this point

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I think it's time to meta dive (can't believe im suggesting this as scum )

I feel I should be able to read Enchant based on meta, he's the player i have the most experience with

Oclaxian (Korina) should also be fairly readable on meta also, played with them in hydra before

furtive and black I have no experience with

[yessiree]

Enchant and black doesn't look like buddies from their short quibble earlier

If what you're saying about furtive being demotivated is true, I feel oclax is a safest kill

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No flips?

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Whoa

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Dam we didn't get the memo LOL

[yessiree]

So we're either gonna win if we shoot the remaining fire maf tonight, or it's a draw if we shoot town and one of us gets shot

[yessiree]

Honestly I don't mind either results haha I think everyone just needs closure at this point

[yessiree]

We can just force a no lim because it's only 50% of the votes needed

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Oh yeah don't hammer no lim right now cuz that would be too obvious

[yessiree]

thats fine with me

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So we're gonna shoot furtive glance but I'll let Aureal confirm that

Also fast night pls