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Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Tue May 30, 2023 7:01 am

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Post Post #4 (isolation #1) » Tue May 30, 2023 7:59 am

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i cannot imagine bulletproof vests tend to be very useful as maf

maybe low power game

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Post Post #6 (isolation #2) » Tue May 30, 2023 11:35 am

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ok we are about to be full of bullets
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Post Post #9 (isolation #3) » Wed May 31, 2023 4:59 pm

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Seems likely
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Post Post #10 (isolation #4) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:00 pm

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I feel like admitting you're bullshitting your reads is certainly a ballsy approach
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Post Post #11 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:01 pm

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I townread shit like that for breakfast though easy regardless of the possible repercussions -- all or nothin
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Post Post #12 (isolation #6) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:39 am

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In post 303, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.4

Hu Tao [ 3 ]
Save the Dragons, Morning Tweet, Elements
bristep123 [ 3 ]
OopsieDaisy, sheepsaysmeep, geraintm
DrippingGoofball [ 2 ]
hu tao, Merlyn
Emperor flippyNips [ 1 ]
towwl
curiouskarmadog [ 1 ]
DrippingGoofball
Elements [ 1 ]
Curiouskarmadog

Not Voting [ 2 ]

bristep123, Emporer flippynips

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Post Post #13 (isolation #7) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:39 am

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Things keep going like this it'll be smooth sailing

Probably won't happen though, one of us might end up catching a bullet then there'll be some explaining to do. It's too bad that we can only protect Dragons

I wonder what town throws at us though. I hope that the gun ends up in DGB or Merylyn or Emperor's hands, not a lot like curiousdog or Towwl. just not someone who is paying enough attention to notice the Element townreads are full of hot air, basically, and then we'll be good

Really vig could justifiably shoot most anyone so far I can't even really predict where it'll go
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Post Post #17 (isolation #8) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:08 am

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There's a role cop, misc investigative, and a vigilante (surprise)

And the three people that got pushed were all three?

Bruh

The only bummer is we can't actually roleblock them but I'm hopeful Hu Tao lies down and dies
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Post Post #18 (isolation #9) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:12 am

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Emperor is not paying enough attention to put the bullet where it needs to go there's NO WAY he hasn't even paid enough attention to explain why he's vigilante

HPE role copping means need to be careful with fake claims. I don't like that im a one shot bullet proof. You being a 2-shot doctor could be sus or towny (They're probably gonna think sus since that's what they already think)

I wonder who Emperor shoots its too bad we can't roleblock him I think i'd target him so he can't confirm himself. But now just gotta let him ride ig

The only issue is that after the PR claims are done being scrutinized they're probably gonna go after you next
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Post Post #20 (isolation #10) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:58 pm

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Ha! That little liar
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Post Post #21 (isolation #11) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:10 pm

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I think HPE is really strong against us but it doesn't seem to know that. Bulletproof and 2-x doctor don't look particularly good (especially so if there is a gunsmith though). It might get us

We could shoot Emperor, although he seems hesitant to pull the trigger on anyone. I kinda think there's too many people in the game for him to be a threat that we should prioritize

You are not going to survive tomorrow if towwl/Sheep/curious/Oopsie get their way

Hmm if we kill HPE it has the bonus of looking pretty decent if ppl read into the kill cause HPE suspected gera/Emperor/DGB the most (It voted you but blindly)

I kind of like the idea of killing HPE because most of towwl/Sheep/Curious/Ooosie is probably vanilla if i had to guess and we can't reaaaally kill our way out of you getting suspected.

Will kind of have to sell the narrative that Elements is scum's next most obvious mislim rather than scum
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Post Post #22 (isolation #12) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:24 pm

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If we're going off of role and how it will look down the line, HPE could be somewhat safe. I don't think it will be protected. This will not do anything to quell the Elements wagon. But it could potentially make gera dgb or emperor look bad. Although I think by the end of this Emperor will probably be confirmed vigilante

Out of sheep, curious, Oopsie, towwl .... i don't really know, I suppose whichever one you think is most confident about you being scum and will vocally try to push that. I think no matter who we kill it'll be a battle.

Sheep looks like they could be persuaded maybe. They suspect curious somewhat.

Curious I'm pretty sure will not let you go. But i'm unsure its a good kill.

Oopsie very high likelihood they will eliminate you, not sure killing them accomplishes too much

Towwl has you low but not quite bottom tier. definitely will vote.

So you can kill a voice (Oopsie/Curious) or a super likely supporter (sheep/towwl). If we kill curious or Oopsie that will very obviously point to helping Elements, sheep and towwl is more subtle but less likely to stop the heat

Personally I'm still fairly partial to shooting HPE. I think you could make the argument that Oopsie was far and beyond the towniest voice in thread so any team could justifiably take the shot. And I wouldn't mind them gone.

Curious I think specifically because sheep suspected them I don't want to shoot there. Skimming they really suspected Emperor. I think there are a bunch of things that are red herrings in here that might get curious suspected

Sheep is an okay shot because it's hard to really trace why he would get shot.

I'm like:

HPE > Oopsie > Sheep > Curious

HPE creates false leads and gets rid of a role cop. But if we wanna stuff the Elements wagon, then I would prefer killing Oopsie since they're easily justifiable as a consensus town shot. Even if it''s the kill that probably most strongly points to Elements. Sheep would be more subtle.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #13) » Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:38 pm

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Sheep might be a blunder cause i think he could still be convinced Ele is town plus he's probably vanilla

towwl i dont know much about actually could be a fine shot they're quiet but definitely putting in the work and suspect Ele highly

Curious sort of points to Elements more strongly than killing Oopsie does but Oopsie is consensus town and curious is still a tossup

I still think HPE will prove itself to be town and will be able to guilty 2/3 of us and find other PRs plus if we cut it down now their reads actually dont point to us

im thinking so far:

HPE > Oopsie > towwl

curious who you all think should die even if its not these
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Post Post #27 (isolation #14) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:16 pm

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To be honest, not sure who Emperor will shoot

He expressed that he wont shoot curiousdog/Oopsie/Tweet/Towwl.

he voted Elements, and Elements was the CW

To be honest he's probably going to shoot you
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Post Post #28 (isolation #15) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:18 pm

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I don't think there'll be two vigs cause that'd borderline be bad for town, but I'm just guessing

I'm definitely hoping you werent supposed to be the godfather for a gunsmith but that was my first guess

I agree, the vig (or if theres multiple) is probably gated with something
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Post Post #29 (isolation #16) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:27 pm

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Morning kills HighPrincessErinys

Elements heals .... ? Dragons


I'm not really sure if it's even worth to heal Dragons. It probably is cause the risk is negligible. I doubt we're going to get punished with a tracker/watcher or some nonsense if our only PRs are gated doctor + bulletproof. It'd be kind of odd. I don't think Dragons will get shot though

You could heal someone else in the hopes a watcher sees it and it looks bad lol, I don't know. You being gated (and the lack of us having much power) hopefully means there won't be too many bullets flying or strong investigative results.

To be honest, Erinys' results makes 2 of us look really bad I have decent hopes that it holds a lot of town's power

Let me know if you have input on who should kill and Ele's action. I don't think there's much reason not to use the gated doc action. I don't think Elements should do the kill in the case of rbing/jailkeeping, probably. Dragons or me could perform the kill i dont really have a preference

there's definitely not a watcher, it'd be a strange fit. Watch, vigilante.. rolecop.. our doctor.. and just the kills. Maybe it's gated and watcher is meant to be the protective.

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I don't think HPE is going to get protected. I think Ele could reasonably get interfered with, but not much reason not to use the action
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Post Post #30 (isolation #17) » Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:31 pm

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Could be woefully wrong and HPE gets watched or bodyguarded or healed but it felt to me like they were on the brink of elimination to the point where people would be surprised to see it turn up dead

Ele probably could get shot at or investigated. its not likely that they get roleblocked or jailkept but its probably within the realm of possibility
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Post Post #33 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:29 am

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M eh you can def blame me if watcher

If we get punished for the only active PR we have i'd be surprised. But i dunno whats in the setup so possible. meeehhh
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Post Post #34 (isolation #19) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:31 am

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Oh ok Ele shot yeah predictable

This is going to be interesting to wiggle out of

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Post Post #35 (isolation #20) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:37 am

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I'm not really sure killing Emperor would be more helpful, kind of need him to shoot town. He can't do anything on D2 whereas Erinys could guilty.

Yes, I could have just let Erinys live and killed in the Ele wagon. I didn't reeeally want Erinys to live though.

Idk

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Post Post #36 (isolation #21) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:47 am

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We couldn't reeeeallly respond to or stop Ele dying I guess I should have mentally prepared more for having to deal with how hard half the game scumread them. I was mostly hoping Ele didn't get shot immediately and limmed the next day instead, pretty bad plan on my part, now we're both just hard defenders out of 4 of Ele and ele is dead

DGB's comment is more or less right, scum mastermind
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Post Post #37 (isolation #22) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:00 pm

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Lol sorry for teaming up with Elements to create the perform storm of bad day and night play in order to crash and burn at speedrun pace
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Post Post #38 (isolation #23) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:00 pm

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In post 37, Morning Tweet wrote: Lol sorry for teaming up with Elements to create the perfect storm of bad day and night play in order to crash and burn at speedrun pace
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Post Post #39 (isolation #24) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:06 pm

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I think it was probably correct to kill Emperor by virtue of "he will be confirm town" but I honestly felt the same way about HPE where i think they would have gotten progressively more townread and their role would eventually guilty. I should have just let it ride though i guess since it only hurts me to be fair. Didnt really matter if it guilties ele

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Post Post #40 (isolation #25) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:19 pm

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I still have this lingering feeling where I don't want to shoot Emperor which makes no sense considering he gives town 2x liminations, I don't really know whts wrong w/ my mafia brain. It's probably a lot worse to give town +1 vig shot over leaving HPE in. Probably should have shot him first.

I wasn't holding my breath on Emperor shooting HPE but technically he could have helped there, didnt catch that of course. I just dunno, I don't pay enough attention to the right things
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Post Post #41 (isolation #26) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:36 pm

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Starting to think getting clowned on for your night actions isn't part of the scum experience and is just part of the "terribly mechanically inclined" experience, in which i reprise my role as lead actor each and every time as scum
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Post Post #42 (isolation #27) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:37 pm

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Yeah I guess Emperor shooting slots is more helpful that HPE potentially guiltying me. I kind of wanted Emperor to holster/shoot town at some point in the game but my dumbass forgets that Emperor shooting town is actually better for town than Emperor not shooting, that's just free eliminations
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Post Post #43 (isolation #28) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:39 pm

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How do you even forget something like that??

my feelings hurt critically

I was hoping Ele lives a little longer? Lol. I dont know mate
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Post Post #44 (isolation #29) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:41 pm

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If Ele lived longer it'd have been better to shoot Emperor then still though so
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Post Post #45 (isolation #30) » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:43 pm

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DGB thinking im a master strategist is just insult to injury oooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Post Post #46 (isolation #31) » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:51 am

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So probably goes without saying but bussing Ele probably would have been workable (Although bussing not my thing so i probably would've been super obvious about it and gotten nowhere anyway)

We had the hint of "Bullets probably coming" and "we can't protect Elements out of the three of us" so i guess, yes in hindsight could have just played around that

I'm not sure why i was married to the idea of hard townreading Elements and continuing that fight..... if Ele had a vest or wasn't the doctor i think we mightve had a case to keep them going (Everyone thinks there's a roleblocker threat for example), but should've known Ele was going to get shot

..

The nightkill is bad but had Ele lived and all three of us kept going... well it's still bad, cause that's an extra chance to shoot Ele on N2. I still think HPE would have survived for a long while and gotten a result in time, but that was not nearly as immediate a problem as half of the town eating Ele alive

Emperor shooting a townie n1 then getting killed n2 I don't even rlly know if that is more beneficial than killing Emp n1, its still lowering the PoE, more vig shots = good and i forgot that for some reason. Maybe I was hoping he was gated and just let Emp live all game? I was definitely very prepared to just never shoot Emperor tbh. Just not a good strategy here at all

although the nk obv didnt really have any real impact on the rest of the game (other than maybe HPE being a problem if it lived)

..

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In post 10, Morning Tweet wrote: I feel like admitting you're bullshitting your reads is certainly a ballsy approach
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