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Halo!
I will read the main thread later, but did we crumb anything lemon/lime related yet?-
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Cause if not I really wanna go "YESS I GOT THE BEST FRUIT EVER" (referring to dragonfruit)-
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Okay so if it's fine with you I would actually like to tey playing with no dostancong and mutually townreading each other and probably Skitter and make a towncore.
This is probably very risky and dumb, but I think bussing is overrated and in almost any game I've played or read I saw people scumreading others for "distancing", so I would like to avoid that kind of behavior. Also it woud be really fun to have a towncore that's made of scum
So what do you think?
Quoting for a pingIn post 21, Aristeia wrote:-
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I guess I can bus you Day 2 or Day 3 but for now let's form that towncore-
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Also FYI Skitter does know me as scum and I am really afraid of getting her to ELO. Which is why I'll get her consensus townread and then strongarm her death before ELO.-
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You do? Because I have no clue what I am doing (I just lost 3 scum games in a row)-
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Should I switch to Datisi or keep pushing Night Shade? I was gonna vote Datisi but then I saw Skitter's vote and changed my mind.-
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Okay I just want to rant that whenever I read a player's post and think to myself that it's scummy and try to develop a read from it I remember I'm scum and everyone except me and you are town and I will never be able to find scum
I'm so sad.
(but /srs for a sec: I think the only option is to stop pretending I'm scumreading people and start forcing other people into a corner where they have no choice but to be scummy, and then eliminate them. I've never done this online but I have done this IRL so it might just work.)-
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Ari I'm so lonely in this scum thread, when are you coming backkkk?
Also, do you think you can come up with a reason for a vote on Night shade or even just sheep me/Skitter? I think it would be awesome to put some serious pressure on the hydra.-
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Oh thanks :3
I think you are also doing well.
And I really should have a look at that game thread soon. But not this minute.-
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I don't think I'm doing well any longer
Seems like I backed myself into a corner with the Skitter things.
What do I dooooo
This is like my first game as real scum, ever.-
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I like your tips, I'll try to be more whimsical.
But I thought I was already being whimsical with my dragonfruit thingy.
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Okay TemporalLich replacing into that slot is basically almost a guaranteed win for us I think.
Like I know he's voting you right now but his townread on me is solid and I think I can easily convince him to TR you, and I also think Skitter is slightly pocketed by me and Datisi is slightly pocketed by you and this could really work out!
OMG we doing so well.-
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Naaah Datisi is totally going to be pocketed by you if you keep doing what you're doing. It's 100% guaranteed¹.In post 42, Aristeia wrote: uh I don't think anyone townreads me ? I think it might even make sense for you to bus vote me here if you feel his reasoning is compelling.
its up to you though
¹No refunds allowed. We do not bear responsibility for hurt feelings and/or eliminations that may result from relying on this statement.-
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Thanks I will continue to do soIn post 43, Aristeia wrote: I like your catchup though! you are doing a great job-
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Okay so I see two branching paths for us, tell me what you think (you'll probably disagree with both because you seem to really want to be bussed, but still)
Option one: I continue SRing Lich's slot and we lim them today by combining with Skitter and somehow getting 2 other people to vote with us. There's enough scummy material on the slot that this could happen, but it would be quite hard and might be incriminating.
Option two: I pocket Lich while you pocket Datisi and then we either form a towncore or just happen to SR the same slot (probably infinity or Atsi) and these guys will stop pushing us and cooperate. Then we kill someone out of Lich/Datisi/Skitter.
Which one do you want to go with?-
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Okay I'm rereading and I think Skitter might be mislimable.
If I start pushing her would you join in?-
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No nevermind Shea is definitely the lim.-
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I genuinely did not intend to hammer there, I think this situation is quite hilarious and will hopefully paint me as "stupid townie" or something.
I'm okay with maybe bussing you tomorrow but I deliberately left it open-ended.-
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Okay apparently I am screwed because town decided I faked something which I did not in fact fake.-
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I think you do the kill tonight since I'm probably be tracked if there's a tracker.-
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I'll be honest, I thought it was role madnessIn post 56, Aristeia wrote: any idea who could be a power role?
So if it's not role madness, here's what I think:
Atsi - 80% sure they are PR
Infinity - 60% sure they are PR
Marci - 70% sure they're VT, 30% PR
Ausuka - 80% sure they are miller, 20% PR
Datisi - 80% sure they're VT, 20% PR
Skitter - 99% sure they're VT, 1% PR
I think we should kill Atsi and investigate Infinity.-
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Thanks for being a good emotional supportIn post 57, Aristeia wrote:
thats funnyIn post 52, DragonEater70 wrote: Okay apparently I am screwed because town decided I faked something which I did not in fact fake.
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@Cakez could you provide a dragonfruit fakeclaim?-
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Good question
IDK what would you make it?-
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The thing is:
1. I still thing you can pocket him which would be good
2. I feel atsi is more unpredictable, and we kinda want to remove the unpredictable elements from the game, right? I dunno if it makes sense.
3. Wouldn't killing Datisi trace back to me easily?
4. Atsi also wants me dead and IMO is probably a PR-
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@cakes okay what about a fake bomb claim? Could you do that?-
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Okay here's a question: if we kill Datisi, who do you think we mislim on Day 2?
Cause like we need 3 mislims to win and don't really care if one of us dies as long as the other lives (though of course it's easier with both alive).
WIth Datisi alive, Skitter could be an actual miselim for tomorrow. With Datisi dead, I don't really see who would push Skitter. Or do you think we kill Datisi here and then mislim Atsi and kill Skitter N2?-
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I like this ideaIn post 77, Aristeia wrote: maybe we just kill infinity here and leave datisi alive to push you so he might think why would scum leave me alive?
Yeah me neither. But we gonna make it workIn post 78, Aristeia wrote: im like really bad at playing the mafia alignment because i dont have a lot of experience with it.
Don't you wanna invest Atsi? I really think it's not likely that Dats is a PR.In post 80, Aristeia wrote: gonna put this in for now:
dragoneater kills infinity
aristeia investigates datisi-
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But even though I suck at scum, I feel like we're working together which is good and wecouldmake this work.-
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Another question:
Is it fine with you if I make a semi-serious push on you at the beginning, that will look strong enough so that it's not thought of as "obvious distancing", before I start pushing someone else?
I really need to have a good push tomorrow for towncred, that's why I'm asking. And I feel like there's no chance I will atick with my initial push to the end of day, ao the initial one might as well be you.-
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Also Marci sounds extremely pocketable from her posting, what do you think?-
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That's a good attitude but I do feel we should be coordinated.In post 87, Aristeia wrote:
you can do anything you want toIn post 83, DragonEater70 wrote: Another question:
Is it fine with you if I make a semi-serious push on you at the beginning, that will look strong enough so that it's not thought of as "obvious distancing", before I start pushing someone else?
I really need to have a good push tomorrow for towncred, that's why I'm asking. And I feel like there's no chance I will atick with my initial push to the end of day, ao the initial one might as well be you.
it is a game and I am fine with it-
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Oh okay.
Glad we didn't waste a kill then-
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It would feel like OMGUS, no?In post 95, Aristeia wrote: maybe you should be suspicious of datisi pushing you and vote him because he also wanted Temporal lich dead and now he's trying to pin it on you?-
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YeahIn post 95, Aristeia wrote: also like temporal lich claimed already and it was like one day to deadline so it wasn't even a lolhammer
I'm trying to show Datisi that his scumread on me makes zero sense. But I don't feel like scumreading him now tbh-
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Well I just kinda questioned it
But if you press it then I can answer that-
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I think we're doing surprisingly well.
I think Atsi mislim might be happening here, or even datisi mislim.-
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I will engage nowIn post 102, Aristeia wrote: also its p weird to ask ausuka to engage and then say good night to her
I guess you should at least respond in some way?
I didn't realize it was so lateee-
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I think it will be a bit weord to answer that now, so you can quote that and ask me to answer (which will give you towncred probably) and then I'll answer.In post 101, Aristeia wrote: i did ask you in 612 why you had the negative reaction-
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I mean towncred for your consistency basically in getting people to answer your questions-
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Okay I think the lim today is either Skitt or Dats. Unless you think taking both to Elo is actually a big brain move and they'll crossvote?-
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How much do you think this post will get me scumread from 1 to 10?
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Dude that's some serious paranoia (though it probably comes from a town mindset).In post 633, Datisi wrote:
because of the early stuff still and her ??? townread on dragon, i vaguely recall skitt being okay at reading me (or at least like, always calling out scum me in spec chats) so i'm raising an eyebrow at the vote on me (note that i am aware she may have a tendency to scumread me regardless of alignment, which is why i'm not pushing this harder) and while i was yelling at dragon at eod1 for hammering, her "i'm not sure this makes dragon scum" (presented with no further comment) gave me this distinct FEELING of TL being town and dragon being town and her capitalizing on me going batshit insane over the oopsie hammer so that she can push me once dragon flips townIn post 625, DragonEater70 wrote:
Why?In post 617, Datisi wrote:
don't disagree, what are your other reads?In post 592, Aristeia wrote: I dunno how I feel about dunking dragoneater I am kind of worried it'll be another townflip and then f5 elo will be awful
VOTE: skitter
Like I'm not saying you wrong but is scum!Skitt known for planning lims 2 days in advance like that? Can you link a game where she does it?-
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Meh I felt waiting would be scummier so I just posted something that will hopefully sound better than this.
But seriously we should decide who to get rid of. Do you think we should try limming Ausuka cause her claim is scummy if there's no cop? (I'm 95% sure there isn't one btw otherwise I would've been copped)-
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also:
" her "i'm not sure this makes dragon scum" (presented with no further comment) gave me this distinct FEELING of TL being town anddragon being townand her capitalizing on me going batshit insane "
I'm pretty sure Datisi is gonna have both of us in the townbin by the EoD. So we should probably keep him.-
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I'm actually liking an Ausuka lim so much right now. Would really like to hear your thoughts on this.-
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I think you might need to claim rolecop here to "prove" that there is no cop. But only if we do go for the Ausuka lim.-
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But if we do lim Skitter, won't it be obvious that I'm scum on D3?-
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I see you decided to pocket Datisi in the end. I think it's the right moveIn post 670, Aristeia wrote: no actually you shouldn't because my tender heart can't actually handle criticism from you i'd die-
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I'm torn between riding Datisi's paranoia and limming Skitter, and the other option which is trying to look consistent and not opportunistic by making a case against Atsi and then saying that I think it's Skitter/Ausuka on D3.-
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Should I post this?
I had a very quick look at her ISO and I'm not feeling the townvibes from Ausuka. Like her posts are towny on the surface but I just feel something is off about the tone that I can't fully explain? But if I had to put my finger on it, maybe she's overly aggressive as a defense mechanism / a way to fake having scumreads.
Still, I think Atsi is scummier atp because at least Ausuka is trying to engage with other players and Atsi isn't.-
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