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So what on earth do you make of that dirty NJ hammer? That made me really angry.
With the little I have, I'm already scumreading (in order): NJ/pisskop/Shinobi/maybe Ellie
Ellie is only on there because she's being really nice to me and I don't know quite why. I'm gonna read piss's ISO and Shinobi's as well, but I'll hold off on over-reading Ellie's niceness (I don't wanna squander a nice player who might actually just be a nice player).-
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I really want kling to flip scum, it'll tell a lot more than if kling flips town.
I also think Ellie and Elusive are neighbors, maybe? Or Masons, but I don't think Lovers are normal (maybe not?). I have no meta information on Shinobi but I'm really wary of him.
As far as the claim nonsense in concerned, I kinda believe both claims. I'll be extremely interested if viking is NK'd (if they don't get protected).
Was elusive possibly hinting at being the Doctor and vowing to defend Ellie? I really don't understand their relationship.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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I'm not particularly concerned with House's old posts, House is a hard read but he didn't really make himself look too bad (until the end where he got pissed at ika and ragequit/replaced).
You should be careful of your vote timing. I dunno if you saw what I said about you, but reading the ISO on ika for a votecount was literally the first thing I did and the first thing I noticed was after the first, useless votecount, you were exactly the 3rd vote on every major wagon that ever happened. I don't think it's scummy per se, but it attracted my attention so I thought I should make you aware of it.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Or it could be someone completely random, just to throw us off. I can see myself as the NK, replacing into a slot and making some noise.
The likelihood of that is slim though compared to the powerhouse players that are in the game and could pose a more serious threat than a noob like me xDIf I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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In post 194, SilverWolf wrote:Shinobi's reaction to being checked if VF is being honest, means she could be scum.
Why the change of heart on Ellie?
I really like her for scum.
I really can't tell between ABR and VF, but I'm definitely leaning much farther towards VF. His story is just so crazy and hard to believe.
What's your case on NS/FA?
I know you're on VA/L, I read that you have a funeral. I'm sorry for your loss. Take your time with responding. Take care!If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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In post 200, SilverWolf wrote:I only have a quick minute here but I was checking the thread so I don't get too behind or lost and Ellie is coming off scummy because she's spending so much time arguing with ABR over VF and prolonging the set-up spec and basically it's become a huge distraction and the sole focus of the thread. VF or Ellie need to go today. ABR is coming off genuine. I was changing my mind on Ellie because earlier she appeared to be trying to scumhunt by poking at people she was suspicious of to see how they react and giving reads and asking others for reads. But after reading tonight, I have no idea why, as town, she would act the way she is acting.
This is pretty much exactly what I was thinking about the whole conflict, as well as the post you said about ABR being obsessed.
Ellie isn't building a good defense for herself, and ABR is kinda being a prick when it comes to the whole idea of "Oh look shes buddying all girls MEN REVOLT."
But I also know that ABR plays generally like a prick. And while it's not alignment-indicative, his play and his pushes are pretty genuine.
The reason I'd rather point to VF than Ellie is because I still find VF's claimreally fishy.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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I wonder what the hold up is about.
I still think ABR's genuine, heart-felt play is town. His passion is just screaming, "I AM TOWN AND I WANT SCUM DEAD!" Besides, even if I'm wrong, we can clean up a lot of scum tomorrow by lynching ABR and then hopefully vf would get a read on a scum to lynch. Lynching vf just gives us so much good information, and while it is true that ABR's does as well, I just feel like ABR is more sincere in his passion.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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So people are getting really impatient (hence the quickhammers and the fast page growth) so I think it's leading us into hasty charges. I think Ellie's claim is a lie, and that she's the SK or a Vigilante. I think she killed pisskop and I think she's going to kill ABR tonight.
I also think the scum are gonna pick off a generic, generally accepted town person (Shinobi, maybe elusive).
I doubt I'm a target yet (I feel like everyone is like a "meh" on me), same for you with your recent v/la.
I really want an elusive claim.
Thoughts?If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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But what if they killed Boon because he was almost universally town, and didn't even know he was doctor? Like seriously, it was one post, it wasn't obvious, and I frankly think elusive got lucky with that find. And more interestingly enough, why did she know about the crumb? And why did she go back and look for a crumb after the fact, if that's what she did?
I mean seriously, she's either really brilliant or really lucky... or a scum.
Man, this is just coming to me. I wish I woulda had this brainstorm before we mislynched our fuckin' cop.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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It's okay.
I really think ABR is town, even though he fucked us over and betrayed my trust in a way, but I'd hate to rush into another mislynch.
I kinda wanna push on NakedJogger today.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Elusive has been crumbing it a lot, yeah, it's pretty obvious. I don't know that he's a tracker, but I don't think he's scum. I still feel like his push on vf was genuine and from the heart, he was just wrong (as strange as that is).
Besides, why lynch ABR if elusive is just gonna shoot him?If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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She's going to shoot whoever doesn't get lynched. So if somehow Wake is lynched, she'll shoot ABR, and if ABR is lynched, she'll shoot Wake.
Although, if ABR is lynched, with the issues that Wake is having, it'd be better for him to get shot. His life just sounds too tough for him to be playing this game right now.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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So if I'm alive tomorrow (elusive might shoot me because she thinks I'm scum), I wanna make it my goal to put down players who are just hurting the town for one reason or another, starting with MathBlade. I think she's most likely the SK or some kind of negative, anti-town role, and she must die for it.
I also don't like Cheetory, there was some weird play for a minute in there. I have to go back to the ISO, but someone mentioning "apathetic dribble" made me wonder about him and they might have been onto something.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Well I was pretty null on Wake to be completely honest. Definitely think he's a bit whiny for replacing out the way he did, but it certainly was not scummy. I don't think Marquis is being very scummy, either. I'd be willing to bet that Wake/Marquis are town.
As for FA_Q? He's just lazy. I don't know if it's scummy, but it doesn't help the town any to play as apathetically as he does.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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I really don't care for FA_Q for the same reason you don't like Shinobi (Apathy), and I likewise have a distaste for Shinobi on the same fault. I still feel iffy about Cheetory, but he's pretty much null. Aero and elusive are my only two strong town reads, Aero being the weaker of the two reads though. Elusive is pretty much the only person I really feel is town anymore, and that's only because of her play being very strong. TSO reads frustrated town to me, though.
As for Kitz, I don't really like (lean scum) because I think they're really far UTR and it's kinda worrying me. What was NS's softclaim again?If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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In post 276, SilverWolf wrote:I don't think it's dead yet but I'm not sure what to think of it. On the one hand, his latest posts look like frustrated town and I agree with why he found Wake scummy. OTOH, he's been UTR all game and the lynch would be super informative either way. The problem is, I don't want to lynch town at all and I'm not 100% sure FA is scum. He's probably just lashing out at you because he's frustrated.
He has to give us well though out reads now to further help his case. I'm interesting in Marquis' re-read as well.
Exactly! I would have hammered if I really was scumreading FA_Q. I don't know why Shinobi is trying to paint me like an opportunistic scum, drooling at the opportunity to hammer.
But if not FA_Q, my next possible scumreads (the people I doubt) are Shinobi (and that would just look like a retaliation), and Kitz (Who's too UTR for me to reap information from). So I don't honestly know where to go from there.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Ironically, you and elusive are my two strongest townreads, and elusive thinks I'm scum xD (even though she might recant on that now that the game has progressed a little, that was a while ago).
I wanna really look into Cheetory of the three right now, because I misread Marquis before the lynch and so I dunno what's happening with them. GM is a bit harder for me to scumread than Cheetory, so Cheetory is on my chopping block at the moment.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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This game is so bittersweet because I really like this neighborhood and there's a great opportunity to form a townblock with you, me, and elusive, but we have this town that just derped so hard in the first days of the game's life and it's just sad D:If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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So I think your Wake case is much better than the Cheetory case, I guess his emotion pinged me as scummy (And he does AtE a LOT), but Wake's general hostility and anger is somewhere between scum reacting too hard to pokes, or a frustrated townie.
I feel like dragonspawn did exactly as House predicted - He outted us for some kind of manipulation, and we won't have it.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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I dunno how I feel about that role.
Because it seems townish enough, but it also seems like the ultimate buddying role. Like, what is to gain from being in a neighborhood with someone for a day, I wonder? Meh, probably just being overly skeptical. I guess it's good for reading people on an individual scale. Anyways, TELL GM I SAID HI .
Thank you for complimenting my ds post .
You should ask gm if she neighborized anyone else, and what she thought of Aero/anybody else she neighborized. Maybe we can generate a decent townblock using her role? We can also have her neighborize me next day if she can only do one person on one day (like if she can't re-neighborize you), so we can stay in 3-way communications. We have the potential to build very strong reads with this.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Again, I'm so sorry about inactivity. I made a post explaining it in-thread.
In post 334, SilverWolf wrote:Do you believe TSO is the vig? He hasn't been cc'd and it would explain the 3 kill attempts N1. So I think he is.
No way in hell. It's entirelytoo convenient.It feels orchestrated. A player like TSO wouldn't crumb so hard, nor would they do it D3, knowing exactly the NK for N3, and then claim D5. I also believe he planned on claiming vig D4, but the day went too quickly with the town-paranoid FAQ lynch D4, and I believe he saw that happening and decided to let it happen instead of cause resistance earlier than he needed to.
I am, without a doubt, 100% certain TSO is the Serial Killer.
I believe Shinobi is town because of the light friction between him and I, jut a gut read.
Kitz I'm still very weary about, but I wanna pursue TSO's fakeclaim right now.
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<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">In post 4689, Marquis wrote:gm i really want this thing between me and tso to end because if neither of us dies soon and i have to go through a day 6 with this same aching burning desire for his flip i won't be able to withstand it. i hate the whole idea of declaring a gladiator-esque 1v1 but i can't think of any other way to describe how confident and bloodthirsty i am for tso's scumflip.<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">everyone choose now. me or tso. please.<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">even a vote for me is a step closer to a tso lynch eventually. i just don't want to have to sit back and go through this any longer much less another day without his flip.
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Does this make sense to you?In post 4690, T S O wrote:I'm afraid you won't actually be able to get it, little man - I have something which makes me 100% town, and you don't, though I'd really rather not reveal it unless I have to.
No, and this is making me angry at TSO because I can see right through his fake claim and TSO claiming he's conftown is bullshit. Furthermore, even if I believed his claim,him killing pisskop n1 (if it even was him amongst the 3 kills that night) does not conftown him.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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If TSO is really the vigilante, then my read on the wagons still don't change.
Shinobi being so eager to throw himself in front of TSO's line of fire is confusing at best. What reason does Shin have to defend him so much? Where is this mysterious scum case on Aeronaut that apparently Shinobi has been promising elusive?If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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I don't get the Aeronaut start-up wagon. I don't get why TSO wouldn't just keep pushing for a Marquis lynch (the wagon that already exists) and shoot Aeronaut for his shenanigans, instead of trying to start a new wagon so he can shoot Marquis for his shenanigans.
Also, dragon's perpetual sheeping of TSO makes me want to vote dragon, but TSO will tunnel into my ass about it because dragonspawn townreads TSO hardcore and TSO is cocky and arrogant and thinks that because he claimed vig he's universally townread.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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Do you wanna just push for Marquis lynch then, if TSO agrees to hop off the stupid Aero wagon? Because if TSO switches back to Marquis, dragon will. Then that'll free up TSO's shot (Aeronaut probably?) and we'll see what happens tonight.
OR, would you rather let the Aero wagon go, read his flip, and let TSO kill someone? He already said he won't kill Marquis if Aeronaut flips scum.If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3-
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