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Post Post #178 (isolation #0) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:53 am

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Well this is more than a notepad now, neighbor.

Howdy! I have a lot of catching up to do, anything you can particularly fill me in on while I sort this out?
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Post Post #180 (isolation #1) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:01 pm

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So what on earth do you make of that dirty NJ hammer? That made me really angry.

With the little I have, I'm already scumreading (in order): NJ/pisskop/Shinobi/maybe Ellie

Ellie is only on there because she's being really nice to me and I don't know quite why. I'm gonna read piss's ISO and Shinobi's as well, but I'll hold off on over-reading Ellie's niceness (I don't wanna squander a nice player who might actually just be a nice player).
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Post Post #182 (isolation #2) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:23 pm

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I really want kling to flip scum, it'll tell a lot more than if kling flips town.

I also think Ellie and Elusive are neighbors, maybe? Or Masons, but I don't think Lovers are normal (maybe not?). I have no meta information on Shinobi but I'm really wary of him.

As far as the claim nonsense in concerned, I kinda believe both claims. I'll be extremely interested if viking is NK'd (if they don't get protected).

Was elusive possibly hinting at being the Doctor and vowing to defend Ellie? I really don't understand their relationship.
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Post Post #184 (isolation #3) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:13 pm

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I'm not particularly concerned with House's old posts, House is a hard read but he didn't really make himself look too bad (until the end where he got pissed at ika and ragequit/replaced).

You should be careful of your vote timing. I dunno if you saw what I said about you, but reading the ISO on ika for a votecount was literally the first thing I did and the first thing I noticed was after the first, useless votecount, you were exactly the 3rd vote on every major wagon that ever happened. I don't think it's scummy per se, but it attracted my attention so I thought I should make you aware of it. :P
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Post Post #187 (isolation #4) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:02 pm

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Hey, never a problem. It's weird that it jumped out at me. So who do you speculate to be the NK tonight? And why?
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Post Post #189 (isolation #5) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:39 am

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I think ABR is definitely a candidate for the NK. I dunno about elusive, though, because I think she has some trick up her sleeve that will prevent her from dying tonight.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:14 am

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Or it could be someone completely random, just to throw us off. I can see myself as the NK, replacing into a slot and making some noise.

The likelihood of that is slim though compared to the powerhouse players that are in the game and could pose a more serious threat than a noob like me xD
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Post Post #199 (isolation #7) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:28 pm

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In post 194, SilverWolf wrote:Shinobi's reaction to being checked if VF is being honest, means she could be scum.

Why the change of heart on Ellie?

I really like her for scum.

I really can't tell between ABR and VF, but I'm definitely leaning much farther towards VF. His story is just so crazy and hard to believe.

What's your case on NS/FA?

I know you're on VA/L, I read that you have a funeral. I'm sorry for your loss. Take your time with responding. Take care!
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Post Post #203 (isolation #8) » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:57 am

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In post 200, SilverWolf wrote:I only have a quick minute here but I was checking the thread so I don't get too behind or lost and Ellie is coming off scummy because she's spending so much time arguing with ABR over VF and prolonging the set-up spec and basically it's become a huge distraction and the sole focus of the thread. VF or Ellie need to go today. ABR is coming off genuine. I was changing my mind on Ellie because earlier she appeared to be trying to scumhunt by poking at people she was suspicious of to see how they react and giving reads and asking others for reads. But after reading tonight, I have no idea why, as town, she would act the way she is acting.


This is pretty much exactly what I was thinking about the whole conflict, as well as the post you said about ABR being obsessed.

Ellie isn't building a good defense for herself, and ABR is kinda being a prick when it comes to the whole idea of "Oh look shes buddying all girls MEN REVOLT."

But I also know that ABR plays generally like a prick. And while it's not alignment-indicative, his play and his pushes are pretty genuine.

The reason I'd rather point to VF than Ellie is because I still find VF's claim
really fishy.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #9) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:48 pm

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I really wanna just vote viking and call it a day, that seems to be the only way we're gonna push through this garbage.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #10) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:11 pm

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Well VF is at L-2 and ABR is at like L-7 lol. I just think vf is the most valuable lynch in terms of information.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #11) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:45 pm

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I wonder what the hold up is about.

I still think ABR's genuine, heart-felt play is town. His passion is just screaming, "I AM TOWN AND I WANT SCUM DEAD!" Besides, even if I'm wrong, we can clean up a lot of scum tomorrow by lynching ABR and then hopefully vf would get a read on a scum to lynch. Lynching vf just gives us so much good information, and while it is true that ABR's does as well, I just feel like ABR is more sincere in his passion.
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Post Post #216 (isolation #12) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:51 pm

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Well the Lock -hopefully- slowed things down a bit.

We just need to convince two people to vote vf
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Post Post #218 (isolation #13) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:08 pm

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I completely agree. I would probably be having a meltdown if I were the town cop and I was about to be lynched by someone literally pretending to be my slot.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:11 am

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So people are getting really impatient (hence the quickhammers and the fast page growth) so I think it's leading us into hasty charges. I think Ellie's claim is a lie, and that she's the SK or a Vigilante. I think she killed pisskop and I think she's going to kill ABR tonight.

I also think the scum are gonna pick off a generic, generally accepted town person (Shinobi, maybe elusive).

I doubt I'm a target yet (I feel like everyone is like a "meh" on me), same for you with your recent v/la.

I really want an elusive claim.

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Post Post #224 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:56 pm

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I wish she would just say it already though, I'm terrible at finding crumbs rofl.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #16) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:29 pm

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But what if they killed Boon because he was almost universally town, and didn't even know he was doctor? Like seriously, it was one post, it wasn't obvious, and I frankly think elusive got lucky with that find. And more interestingly enough, why did she know about the crumb? And why did she go back and look for a crumb after the fact, if that's what she did?

I mean seriously, she's either really brilliant or really lucky... or a scum.

Man, this is just coming to me. I wish I woulda had this brainstorm before we mislynched our fuckin' cop.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #17) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:39 pm

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I really can't tell them apart. It's like splitting a damn atom. Seriously, they're almost stepping over each other to defend the one another.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:49 pm

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It was in fact Ellie. Even more curious..

I really do think Ellie and elusive are just really close friends.

I think Ellie needs to go if she survives tonight.. she's really starting to look anti-town to me.
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Post Post #239 (isolation #19) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:55 am

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In post 237, SilverWolf wrote:
In post 3330, Ozgin wrote:
my dog was dead by the time I came home today.


I am so sorry. :(


It's okay.

I really think ABR is town, even though he fucked us over and betrayed my trust in a way, but I'd hate to rush into another mislynch.

I kinda wanna push on NakedJogger today.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #20) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:55 pm

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Elusive has been crumbing it a lot, yeah, it's pretty obvious. I don't know that he's a tracker, but I don't think he's scum. I still feel like his push on vf was genuine and from the heart, he was just wrong (as strange as that is).

Besides, why lynch ABR if elusive is just gonna shoot him?
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Post Post #244 (isolation #21) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:26 pm

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She's going to shoot whoever doesn't get lynched. So if somehow Wake is lynched, she'll shoot ABR, and if ABR is lynched, she'll shoot Wake.

Although, if ABR is lynched, with the issues that Wake is having, it'd be better for him to get shot. His life just sounds too tough for him to be playing this game right now.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #22) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:12 am

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I just... I don't even. This is exactly what I wanted to avoid; another town mislynch. Jesus Christ, that's defeating...

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Post Post #251 (isolation #23) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:06 pm

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So if I'm alive tomorrow (elusive might shoot me because she thinks I'm scum), I wanna make it my goal to put down players who are just hurting the town for one reason or another, starting with MathBlade. I think she's most likely the SK or some kind of negative, anti-town role, and she must die for it.

I also don't like Cheetory, there was some weird play for a minute in there. I have to go back to the ISO, but someone mentioning "apathetic dribble" made me wonder about him and they might have been onto something.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #24) » Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:37 am

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Yeah, he's really UTR, and that's kinda scary to me.

I'm going on a trip, be back Tuesday. V/LA until then!
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Post Post #259 (isolation #25) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:20 pm

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We should call out anything and everything.

I almost forgot about this game because lockdown... I wonder what's been going on? Hrmmm.
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Post Post #266 (isolation #26) » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:15 am

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Well I wouldn't really care to out yet, It's not a prominent factor but I don't think it's necessarily worth mentioning -yet-. The GM-Aero neighborhood is interesting, because they're both pretty null to me, which makes me wonder about them.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #27) » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:48 pm

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Well I was pretty null on Wake to be completely honest. Definitely think he's a bit whiny for replacing out the way he did, but it certainly was not scummy. I don't think Marquis is being very scummy, either. I'd be willing to bet that Wake/Marquis are town.

As for FA_Q? He's just lazy. I don't know if it's scummy, but it doesn't help the town any to play as apathetically as he does.
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Post Post #270 (isolation #28) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:30 pm

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I really don't care for FA_Q for the same reason you don't like Shinobi (Apathy), and I likewise have a distaste for Shinobi on the same fault. I still feel iffy about Cheetory, but he's pretty much null. Aero and elusive are my only two strong town reads, Aero being the weaker of the two reads though. Elusive is pretty much the only person I really feel is town anymore, and that's only because of her play being very strong. TSO reads frustrated town to me, though.

As for Kitz, I don't really like (lean scum) because I think they're really far UTR and it's kinda worrying me. What was NS's softclaim again?
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Post Post #272 (isolation #29) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:52 pm

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Well we have what, 13 players left? Assuming there are at least 4 anti-town players left (4 scum and 1 SK or TP?), I would think that of the 9 people left, at least one of us has a PR?
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Post Post #275 (isolation #30) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:15 pm

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The FA wagon is all but dead, and I seem to be catching the blunt end of his panicked outlash (which is pretty fucking funny considering I wasn't even pushing him that hard).
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Post Post #277 (isolation #31) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:40 pm

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In post 276, SilverWolf wrote:I don't think it's dead yet but I'm not sure what to think of it. On the one hand, his latest posts look like frustrated town and I agree with why he found Wake scummy. OTOH, he's been UTR all game and the lynch would be super informative either way. The problem is, I don't want to lynch town at all and I'm not 100% sure FA is scum. He's probably just lashing out at you because he's frustrated.

He has to give us well though out reads now to further help his case. I'm interesting in Marquis' re-read as well.


Exactly! I would have hammered if I really was scumreading FA_Q. I don't know why Shinobi is trying to paint me like an opportunistic scum, drooling at the opportunity to hammer.

But if not FA_Q, my next possible scumreads (the people I doubt) are Shinobi (and that would just look like a retaliation), and Kitz (Who's too UTR for me to reap information from). So I don't honestly know where to go from there.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #32) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:52 pm

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Just general apathy, and it's gross and needs to stop.

But how do we push the UTR people? I don't think it'd look that great for me right now to start a crusade on someone like Kitz.
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Post Post #282 (isolation #33) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:13 pm

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My issue with Kitz is that I have very little reaction with her.

Like, very very little. I don't know a damn thing about her, and that's scary for me coming up on mid-late game.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #34) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:29 pm

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I think that gives more information on Marquis than Kitz, if anything.

Kitz is still pretty null to me, with her "waiting it out" thing to see if she'll like the game.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #35) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:53 pm

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I really think Cheetory is the scummier of the two, but in all fairness I -kinda- ignored their little dispute for a little while and I'm just going on that recent post I've seen by Cheetory.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #36) » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:47 am

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But it's a shame because I really don't like Cheetory as town, he's just too explosive, and then it seemed like he realized he was generating too much friction and stopped.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #37) » Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:55 am

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Well I tried not rushing into a lynch, but now we have to look into Cheetory, Marquis, and possibly GM.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #38) » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:10 am

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Ironically, you and elusive are my two strongest townreads, and elusive thinks I'm scum xD (even though she might recant on that now that the game has progressed a little, that was a while ago).

I wanna really look into Cheetory of the three right now, because I misread Marquis before the lynch and so I dunno what's happening with them. GM is a bit harder for me to scumread than Cheetory, so Cheetory is on my chopping block at the moment.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #39) » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:20 am

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I'll do the same with Cheetory.

If either of us die tonight, it is imperative that we release the others' reads to the main thread, and obviously out ourselves as neighbors. I think our reads in here are pretty good.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #40) » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:29 am

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This game is so bittersweet because I really like this neighborhood and there's a great opportunity to form a townblock with you, me, and elusive, but we have this town that just derped so hard in the first days of the game's life and it's just sad D:
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Post Post #303 (isolation #41) » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:57 pm

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Yeah, I just wish elusive would get plonked into this QT, like a gift from above xD
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Post Post #305 (isolation #42) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:42 am

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@Mod can we kidnap elusive into this neighborhood? Lol.
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Post Post #309 (isolation #43) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:58 pm

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Copy/Paste Post numbers? Or links to post numbers even? Or naked quotes lol, I trust you not to fudge his quotes if you make a case here lmao.
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Post Post #317 (isolation #44) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:59 pm

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Yeah, no, I'm just going to go ahead and bear all here. I'm okay with outting at this point. I think he's just doing it to divert attention from himself.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #45) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:27 pm

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Yeah
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Post Post #322 (isolation #46) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:08 pm

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So I think your Wake case is much better than the Cheetory case, I guess his emotion pinged me as scummy (And he does AtE a LOT), but Wake's general hostility and anger is somewhere between scum reacting too hard to pokes, or a frustrated townie.

I feel like dragonspawn did exactly as House predicted - He outted us for some kind of manipulation, and we won't have it.
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Post Post #325 (isolation #47) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:02 pm

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I dunno how I feel about that role.

Because it seems townish enough, but it also seems like the ultimate buddying role. Like, what is to gain from being in a neighborhood with someone for a day, I wonder? Meh, probably just being overly skeptical. I guess it's good for reading people on an individual scale. Anyways, TELL GM I SAID HI :P.

Thank you for complimenting my ds post :D.

You should ask gm if she neighborized anyone else, and what she thought of Aero/anybody else she neighborized. Maybe we can generate a decent townblock using her role? We can also have her neighborize me next day if she can only do one person on one day (like if she can't re-neighborize you), so we can stay in 3-way communications. We have the potential to build very strong reads with this.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #48) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:11 am

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It's fine, I'm gone for most of the day during the days. School and such.

I'm really tempted to drill into Cheetory, but I also wanna look into Wake/Marquis now that you've brought that case to my attention.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #49) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:32 am

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Again, I'm so sorry about inactivity. I made a post explaining it in-thread.

In post 334, SilverWolf wrote:Do you believe TSO is the vig? He hasn't been cc'd and it would explain the 3 kill attempts N1. So I think he is.


No way in hell. It's entirely
too convenient.
It feels orchestrated. A player like TSO wouldn't crumb so hard, nor would they do it D3, knowing exactly the NK for N3, and then claim D5. I also believe he planned on claiming vig D4, but the day went too quickly with the town-paranoid FAQ lynch D4, and I believe he saw that happening and decided to let it happen instead of cause resistance earlier than he needed to.

I am, without a doubt, 100% certain TSO is the Serial Killer.

I believe Shinobi is town because of the light friction between him and I, jut a gut read.

Kitz I'm still very weary about, but I wanna pursue TSO's fakeclaim right now.

SilverWolf wrote:
In post 4689, Marquis wrote:gm i really want this thing between me and tso to end because if neither of us dies soon and i have to go through a day 6 with this same aching burning desire for his flip i won't be able to withstand it. i hate the whole idea of declaring a gladiator-esque 1v1 but i can't think of any other way to describe how confident and bloodthirsty i am for tso's scumflip.<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">everyone choose now. me or tso. please.<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">even a vote for me is a step closer to a tso lynch eventually. i just don't want to have to sit back and go through this any longer much less another day without his flip.
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
In post 4690, T S O wrote:I'm afraid you won't actually be able to get it, little man - I have something which makes me 100% town, and you don't, though I'd really rather not reveal it unless I have to.
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Does this make sense to you?


No, and this is making me angry at TSO because I can see right through his fake claim and TSO claiming he's conftown is bullshit. Furthermore, even if I believed his claim,
him killing pisskop n1 (if it even was him amongst the 3 kills that night) does not conftown him.
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Post Post #341 (isolation #50) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:08 am

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He's probably going to survive. The scum are gonna let him live because of controversy. Why would scum kill a player who's going to cause all this ruckus?
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Post Post #343 (isolation #51) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:21 pm

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Or they can bank on him shooting a town mistakenly (like me or Shinobi), and then tomorrow if he's really non-consecutive (or at least pretending to be) then he won't kill anyone, and will probably be lynched by then.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #52) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:38 pm

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Shinobi wagon is interesting because it
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Marquis wagon is just a lousy counter-wagon to TSO because of how hard TSO is pushing for Marquis' head.
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Post Post #347 (isolation #53) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:50 pm

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If TSO is really the vigilante, then my read on the wagons still don't change.

Shinobi being so eager to throw himself in front of TSO's line of fire is confusing at best. What reason does Shin have to defend him so much? Where is this mysterious scum case on Aeronaut that apparently Shinobi has been promising elusive?
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Post Post #348 (isolation #54) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:52 pm

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I also
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Post Post #351 (isolation #55) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:06 pm

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I feel like Marquis' frustration is of the same caliber as vikingfan's, tbh.
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Post Post #353 (isolation #56) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:08 pm

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Right now, of the wagons, yes.

Of the players? I kinda am developing a disdain for dragonspawn -- but that's biased and I'm not ready to go to war against him because he irked me, lol.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #57) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:41 am

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I don't get the Aeronaut start-up wagon. I don't get why TSO wouldn't just keep pushing for a Marquis lynch (the wagon that already exists) and shoot Aeronaut for his shenanigans, instead of trying to start a new wagon so he can shoot Marquis for his shenanigans.

Also, dragon's perpetual sheeping of TSO makes me want to vote dragon, but TSO will tunnel into my ass about it because dragonspawn townreads TSO hardcore and TSO is cocky and arrogant and thinks that because he claimed vig he's universally townread.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #58) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:35 am

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Do you wanna just push for Marquis lynch then, if TSO agrees to hop off the stupid Aero wagon? Because if TSO switches back to Marquis, dragon will. Then that'll free up TSO's shot (Aeronaut probably?) and we'll see what happens tonight.

OR, would you rather let the Aero wagon go, read his flip, and let TSO kill someone? He already said he won't kill Marquis if Aeronaut flips scum.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #59) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:36 am

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Actually, my preferred action would be to go Shinobi at this point, because I think it's a better wagon than both of them.
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Post Post #361 (isolation #60) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:59 am

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In post 359, SilverWolf wrote:I'm not liking it but I think letting the Aero flip go will be the best for now. There's a lot of info. that can be gained there on the ones voting him now. And this from Marquis makes sense I think? Does it to you?

In post 5382, Marquis wrote:lynching me is bad because when i flip town, if my setup spec was wrong and tso's scum, my townflip gives him free room to potentially "doubt" his reads and shoot whoever he wants in scum interests rather than town

lynching aero, whether he flips scum or not, limits his shot choices to me, and dragon hopefully. if he shoots anywhere else it's a scumclaim and he should be lynched.

No, because I see those scenarios by Marquis as the same. If you change the first scenario to actually match the second in that it assumes both players can flip either scum or town, it would be more like,

Lynching Marquis is bad because, regardless of her flip town or scum, it will free up TSO's shot.
Lynching Aero is good because, regardless of his flip town or scum, it will limit TSO's shot.

Which I
can't
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1) I have no reason to scumread either Marquis or Aero.
2) Neither will actually change TSO's amount of freedom in his shot. It's all opinionated.
3) If we lynch Aeronaut and he flips town he'll just shoot Marquis, if Aero flips scum he'll shoot Marquis, if Marquis flips town he'll shoot Aeronaut, and if Marquis flips scum he'll kill Aero. So if we lynch Marquis, he'll actually probably only shoot Aero anyways ("limiting" his shot, by Marquis' logic), and if we lynch Aeronaut,
he'll probably shoot Marquis anyways, again "limiting" his shot by Marquis' logic.


So to me, Marquis and Aeronaut are equally stupid lynches.

Shinobi's response is just him denying his previous scumreads on Kitz and then rambling about his meta. That doesn't read town to me at all (not to say that it reads scum, but I think talking about meta is all null to me anyways).

So meh, I think Shinbi is a better shot any way imaginable.
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Post Post #363 (isolation #61) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:05 am

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I mean, I don't think Shinobi is scum, but I don't regard him as townier than Marquis or Aeronaut.
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Post Post #365 (isolation #62) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:15 am

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I really never saw Wake as too scummy. Frankly, I felt most peoples' scumreads on Wake happened because of replace-out.
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Post Post #367 (isolation #63) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:39 am

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I agree that it is annoying players are just coasting by. Cheetory is definitely a scumspect.
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Post Post #368 (isolation #64) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:22 am

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Finally, a night to be proud of!
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Post Post #370 (isolation #65) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:13 pm

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I feel like I bought myself a lot of suspicion by thinking TSO wasn't town, believing Aero, and advocating the Shinobi lynch.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #66) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:20 am

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I didn't notice him buddying anyone, though? o_O

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Post Post #375 (isolation #67) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:24 am

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The only one of those three I doubt is dragonspawn, and that's because he's just blindly following TSO who everyone seems to have thumbed as conftown.
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Post Post #377 (isolation #68) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:44 am

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Anyways, night is ending soon, and I'm pretty concerned for my life. I think I'll get lynched tomorrow.

In any event, I need you to make sure everyone knows TSO is the SK. I know you don't believe it, but it's true. I can't tell you why yet, because I'm not ready to claim it, but TSO is NOT the town vigilante.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #69) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:28 am

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I think Aero knew because the scum have a Rolecop.

I know because I'm the vigilante, but I'm only a 3 shot.

N1 I shot pisskop, because he was on my junk about House's posts, N4 I shot elusive, but she's BP. I think she's confirmed town BP at this point.

I don't wanna waste my shot, and I don't wanna die before it gets used, either. I didn't counter-claim because I knew the Marquis wagon wasn't going anywhere, and so I waited to see how things went.

But yes, TSO is the SK/Mass Murderer/3rd Party.
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Post Post #385 (isolation #70) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:06 am

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I think he's the SK, and I think the scum want to let him run around as his pet killing machine. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheetory/Aero/dragonspawn were a scumteam.

If you die tonight, I'm fucking lost. I don't think TSO is BP, it's probably just a gambit. However, I don't want 2 of my 3 shots to hit a BP. That'd be a waste, and I'd be the worst vigilante of all time.

I'm considering shooting dragon tomorrow if he really becomes an issue to me.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #71) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:47 am

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What do I do in the event you die? Should I come out?

I feel like I'd get swept away, or TSO would say that I'm lying and turn dragon and himself and probably Shinobi on me IMMEDIATELY. If Shinobi is town and TSO is SK, assuming dragon is scum too there's still probably 2 other scum not in that list, and they would happily mislynch a townie. We might actually be going into lylo if 2 town die tonight.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #72) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:39 am

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If it's a 5 person, that'd leave 3 alive/8 players are scum and 1/8 is the SK (TSO) so 4 town left 3 scum and a SK, that's lylo I thought because a mislynch would take it to 3 town 3 scum and SK and the scum know TSO is the SK so they'll just shoot him.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #73) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:03 am

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I'd bet that scum had 5 because town had A LOT of power roles.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #74) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:11 am

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Let's assume we both die tonight, we're both town.

Who are the 4 town left alive?

GM, Shinobi, Marquis, and Elusive would be my guesses.

Cheetory, dragon, and Kitz scum team, TSO is the SK.

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Post Post #399 (isolation #75) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:06 am

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If we're in Multiball, there's one really fucking powerful blue mafia out there xD
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Post Post #402 (isolation #76) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:41 am

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Maybe scum killed boon and TSO attacked vf?
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Post Post #406 (isolation #77) » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:47 am

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Im really confused, I held my shot. I wanna see how TSO plays early today, but I think I'm going to out soon.
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Post Post #409 (isolation #78) » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:58 am

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I'm scared to out now because I'm so confused and there's a long way to endgame for us assuming there's still 3 scum and a SK. I don't think I'd last even 2 more nights.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #79) » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:30 pm

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Without showing you my PMs, I can't prove that I took a shot. I'm pretty sure it was n4, though I may be mistaken because I've been so busy the past few game nights, I have to check the time stamp on my PMs, which I'll do in the in the morning. Also, you and elusive need to relax before you get NJ'd.
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Post Post #420 (isolation #80) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:28 pm

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Between you and I, I think your word choice to describe elusive was... Accurate.

Conversating in this game is really uncomfortable with the hostile attitude here.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #81) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:07 am

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I'm the town 3 shot vig, you're the only one who knows. TSO is lying and is the SK. Generally been townreading GM and elusive, but suspicious of elusive now because of her weird role. I want to lynch dragonspawn because he has no reason to vote me and is sheeping the SK. I'd also take a TSO lynch at this point.
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Post Post #428 (isolation #82) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:39 am

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Since I'm dying, I might as well drop this bomb:

TSO is the SK. We have a rolecop, and that rolecop is one of these three: {Kitz, Dragon, Shinobi}

Good luck claiming that, though.

Also, I know you're BP, I tried killing you the other night. That or you were protected.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #83) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:44 am

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Can't let you know that, Starfox. I've already said a bit much, don't you think?

Consider it a gift to my favorite slot in this game. Apply what you learned from my manipulation of you and SW to TSO's manipulation of dragon and the rest of town.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #84) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:45 am

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You have GOT to be kidding me.
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Post Post #438 (isolation #85) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:47 am

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Then I'll tell you this: I lied about all of those names in the list I gave you. They're all town if you're traitor. TSO is really the SK, we have rolecop. No day talk. Night talk only. I can't tell you 100% because I don't know if you're lying or not.
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Post Post #443 (isolation #86) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:49 am

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Nope. Gah, I wanna trust you, but I don't want it to bite my ass.

Shin is town, Kitz is, and Dragon. I think dragon is a roleblocker/bodyguard/some protective role.

TSO is SK yes, rolecop'd.
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Post Post #444 (isolation #87) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:50 am

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He might have blocked me, hence why he said something like, "I have good reason to believe Oz shot TSO and missed last night," I think he blocked me and saved you.
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Post Post #448 (isolation #88) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:53 am

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Good to know.

Fuck it, I'll take the leap -- This game is gone crazy anyway. It's Cheetory.

Good luck. I hope this doesn't bite me.

PEdit: You're right. The town was crazy powerful this game. Do you have any other roles?
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Post Post #449 (isolation #89) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:54 am

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Though I'm paranoid because it's 4/20 and I kinda blazed it, ugh
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Post Post #452 (isolation #90) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:55 am

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Good to know. Cheet is freaking out about TSO, he might shoot him. DAMNIT I WISH I COULD CONNECT THE TWO OF US NOW, This is literally every Shakespearean tragedy setup ever.
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Post Post #453 (isolation #91) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:57 am

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Should I crumb to Cheet with something like:

"Alright, alright. I have two scum buddies left. I conferred with both of them last night to try to kill someone who I now know to be BP. That's all I can say."

He'll know that the only person I talked to was you last night because there's 2 of us left.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #92) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:00 am

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Fair enough. Good luck to you both.

Guh, we talked about SW maybe being our hidden partner, but we never would have imagined.
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Post Post #461 (isolation #93) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:03 am

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I hope my slightly ambigious but yet still in-your-face allusion to a mafia cop will help TSO's lynch.
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