PYP DEAD PT

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the kill is currently

giga

for clear obvious WIFOM reasons

Yeah, I would have made the right choice in MYLO... God damn it!

i did a lot of work over the night

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scum!Kraska DOES NOT make this kill btw

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If Kraska brings up Ümläüt's interactions with KTS (which I would have opened up with) then she'd have a fighting chance. I think she's the one who'll figure it out

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also lol @ fire calling creature a lazy donothing........

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giga how do you know my thought process so well

Based on the fact I joined this forum bc of a gambit you did and thought was brilliant, we might have very similar thought proccesses

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Zach's change in reads on Skelda was so unnatural btw, I was going to press him on that before buddy interactions.

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i also do not know who is mafia so (i didn't read the thread lol)

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Giga had ypu fucking listened to me while I was alive we would have fucking won already.
I bloody asked you to not tunnel on Vedith pointlessly.

i mean

vedith's interactions with kts were weird, i kind of wanted to sort that out while I was confirmed town. the quickhammer on him was absolutely unacceptable but yeah i probably would have listened to you about zach

seriously though zach would have gotten lynched yesterday if people didn't mindlessly pile onto charloux... we all made our mistakes this game though tbh (dunn was not a good cop inspect imo because, like umlaut, his reaction to the D1 maria wagon was negative as opposed to positive) so i'm not mad at anyone for this and i think kraska is going to listen to reason

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vedith's interactions with kts were weird

, i kind of wanted to sort that out while I was confirmed town. the quickhammer on him was absolutely unacceptable but yeah i probably would have listened to you about zach

I WAS CALLING HIM SCUM!
I was tempted to fake counter claim jail keeper, but I knew if I was wrong (reminder that I wasn't) it would have just messed 2 days up for town.

when you voted for me D2 but said you were more certain about kts i thought it was one of those situations were scum accuse each other of being scum but don't vote for each other. plus, kts also wanted me dead late into d2 so i thought i was the mislynch scum were trying to push for. in retrospect it's really stupid but i couldn't understand why you voted for me over kts :/

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besides a handful of players, i pretty much knew nothing about the other players so i actually didn't know that! i usually try to avoid lynching lynchbaity players and i didn't know that was the kind of player you were

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i'm kinda glad this didn't end up being as much of a shitfest deadthread as i expected it to be

and don't worry, we all know i'm pretty awful too

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i don't think that's a good idea

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Was [third mafioso] involved too

It felt like KTS was pushing most of the scumteams decisions, which is why I thought it might be Fire at first but VCA makes Zach look really bad so idk. It's probably Zach (don't spoil me </3)

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i rly can't wait to see the scum pt btw

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oh no
do u guys INSULT me???

i can take it lmao

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oh lmaoooo

ily too btw

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yeah!! I'm a newbie too and us new players gotta stick together!! or smth

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so the third person is probably vengeful

interesting that there wasn't bussing involved

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i'm like on and off sleeping atm

i just like to rant about mafia games and it's nice to let it all out somewhere when it's not against the rules

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having now looked at the spoilers

i was right first of all, but this should be super easy if they just reread Day 1... Umlaut can't be scum with KTS because of how he pressed him after voting Maria, and Zach being on the Skelda wagon is sketchy as fuck because it's unclear how his read even changed (and the skelda wagon made zero sence blah blah blah). Hopefully they decide to do VCA but

really

....

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As things are now, Zach is the least likely to get lynched.

all because i died <_>

seriously though kraska is SUPER easy to clear as town, i'm amazed they didn't at least see the logic i was using to clear you and dunn

i think they can win if firebringer and zach crossvote

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Gg scum

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firebringer better fight back

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I don't think he even read the thread at all.

he knows it's zach though (i think??), so he can probably at least (re)read and pull together

something

he also said he was going to do a vca but i don't see that anywhere

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there was no need for us to cop clear anyone when we could have found scum yesterday if Charloux was willing to cooperate. I lynched him because I thought he was scum, not because I wanted to narrow it down in terms of more likely town lol.

this is such a smelly post too tho like i pretty much said DON'T VOTE UNTIL WE'RE SURE LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS and then town decides to quickhammer despite the fact i practically cleared charloux :/

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i mean i think i can tell the difference between scum!zach and town!zach now, zach's just playing to his wincon. i think the big thing about scum!zach this game is that his scumreads feel really stupid (why was he scumreading skelda? this was never followed up on. and Charloux/Dunn/Shadow_Step is still a really dumb scumteam) so

i can't tell if dunn thinks kraska is scum though and if he does that's just terrible... i guess because it's mylo he's going to have to consider every angle but still...

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granted it might just look easier to us because we got spoiled and have confbias from knowing who is scum... even i would have came into the day asking fire and zach to cross vote because i wasn't completely sure about either one's alignment

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tbh i only realized zach was scumny when he voted vedith because i told him he obvtowned really well

that was practically a scumslip but idt anyone caught that lol

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nice gamethrowing

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IM NOT GONNA LET THIS SLIDE

So you think my grand plan as scum, is to come in here say "I think such might be scum but I am going to vote kraska instead" then say I gone read you as town and want to give you the win if you are scum.

And you home in on the "I think he might scum" parts rather than anything else as "reaching"
It's like you deliberately ignore everything else but someone called you scum.

take the hint already

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UNVOTE:
dammit

god might exist

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I would expect Kraska to also pick up on the change in Zach's tone... maybe I'm just seeing things but there was some cockiness in his earlier posts today. Now he's annoyed but still

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Kraska is utter crap at mafia. Period

she's not... she's just not thinking hard and i know she's been really stressed out recently

trust me though she's decent at this game

mhsmith have you been spoiled?

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So what are you mainly feeling..

Are you srs

I think it's either firebringer or kraska

and thats game

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i blame all of the quickhammering... no discussion at all, i would have had time to explain why the last scum was in fire/zach and press zach... alas...........

wp tho scum!!

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i blame all of the quickhammering... no discussion at all, i would have had time to explain why the last scum was in fire/zach and press zach... alas...........

wp tho scum!!

Its all your fault, I told you vedith is town and not to hammer when I'm not around. You knew full well that I would get killed on the next night.

Then there us Charloux who would get scum MVP for self hammering.

i asked questions to the ppl townreading him that were never answered...

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I think the scum are playing well, actually, aside from the Chrimi kill. Gigabyte did really well, she almost made the game won if her vig shot hadn't been blocked.

i really did think that i came together at the end of the game, i had an awkward start (to be expected for one's first game), but after the cop guilty the rest of the puzzle pieces were put together pretty well

vedith made

some

sense but zach really does make more sense. i was just confbiasing and i think a little bit more discussion would have made me change but

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I wonder what people in the dead chat are screaming about now.

WOULDNT YOU LIKE TO KNOW

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serious newbie question:

is it considered actually bad play to vote to hammer/lynch a townread when there's like 16 minutes left until EoD, especially when it seems impossible to get anyone else lynched? That was the case for KTS and I legitimately think I did the right thing in voting Skelda during that time, because even a green flip provides information and I was worried that town would continue to be paranoid about skelda for no reason, so? I'm still kind of conflicted about it.

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then i honestly do not get chrimi's scumread of me, but it's fine

obviously it happens and it's part of the game but it would be nice to know if i was doing something shitty (which it seems i didn't)

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it's an easy fakeclaim to make because chrimi picked neighborizer and it's not as OUTWARDLY SUSPICIOUS as zach's claim (which no one is questioning STILL)

honestly if i was ever pressed to L-1 i

might

have fakeclaimed VT who picked doctor.....

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zach only needs 12 more posts to surpass me as highest volume poster

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dunn stop procrastinating

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ok with zach's read flip-flop he better get lynched like completely serious

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if zach and dunn vote for kraska together and put her at L-1, as long as fire doesn't hammer, fire will be conftown to kraska and then they can vote zach together

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please don't fuck this up fire

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Let us not be hasty, we can make the dead thread suffer so much longer.

fire knows what's up

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does zach realize that if he votes kraska he becomes confscum? I can't explain why else he hasn't voted her yet...

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Zach is already scumclaiming by being hesitant to vote kraska77.

but voting kraska also is a scumclaim

scum are in a hard position right now

(btw this is why it's good to push town into MYLO instead of LYLO sometimes)

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Wouldn't Kraska get the town confirm though? Kraska can still be mafia from fire's POV if Zach votes.

It's still a stupid move and Zach is going to get suspicion around him regardless of what he does though. Town's got this

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oh shoot there's only 1 scum left <:/

yeah then fire becomes conftown regardless of kraska's alignment

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his line of thinking is "well zach is probably the scum but i'm voting kraska anyway "

but then he unvoted and moved to zach?? so no i don't think so

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kraska had zach pegged as scum for a lot of good reasons D2+3... what made her waffle?

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we literally could have won tho