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Post #4 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:20 pm
Postby NJAC »
Hi. We should crumb Masons just in case we need it later in the game.
A code formed with the first letter of every post we make at the beginning of D1. In ISO people could read the message, after we point it out. I mean this would only be useful in the late game. For example if one of us is still alive could prove he is mason by revealing the message.
I'd write something like "MASON WITH Z" and you'd write the same but N instead of Z.
I saw a pair of Masons doing this in a past game years ago.
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Post #6 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:16 am
Postby NJAC »
Alright, let's shorten it then. I'll also write "MSN W Zyf", maybe OMGUSing you when I write Zyf, maybe not depending on circumstances, but I'll start my fifth post with your name. It will take the first 5 posts to write the entire code.
Let me check past games with this setup and see if masons already tried something like this. I don't want scum to catch us.
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Post #7 (isolation #2) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:57 am
Postby NJAC »
BTW, I think to avoid being NKed we should either play obvtown or a bit scummy (of course avoiding to be the top scum read of everyone). I mean, by playing obvtown scum could think of us as VT, and by playing a bit scummy they would want to keep us alive to set a mislynch.
Also, who and where to recruit is something better to discuss N1, but I'd like to confirm someone like Thor. Though he could be a NK target if town.
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Post #10 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:12 am
Postby NJAC »
After reading a few recent games with masons, it seems this kind of crumb is not common, so it probably would pass unnoticed for scum.
So yeah, we're crumbing this code, and we won't give any other hint of us being masons, like hardly townreading each other or something like that. We want to keep our interactions natural as two VTs.
Avoiding being killed N1 should be our first priority, obviously after avoiding to be suspected a lot to the point of getting forced to claim early on D1.
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Post #13 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:56 am
Postby NJAC »
Maybe. The point of crumbing in this way is to use it when one or two of us die and the remaining mason(s) need to prove their role.
So if the recruited mason is the one who died and you and I are alive and in a situation in which revealing the message to confirm our roles is necessary, then it's better that the recruited mason had crumbed, not only you and me.
BTW it may happen that we never need to use it. This would probably be only useful in a scenario in which one of us is the only mason left alive, but is suspected, together with a scum who suddenly fakeclaims mason, making it a 1v1. And then the real mason just have to say: "I can prove I'm the real mason" .
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Post #15 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:46 am
Postby NJAC »
I think I've only played with Thor and some ongoing stuff I'm not sure I can talk about.
As I said if Thor is town he will likely die on N1 or N2, so not sure if recruiting him is a good idea. We will have more info for discussing this on N1.
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Post #30 (isolation #15) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:36 pm
Postby NJAC »
BBT seems like a nice choice to recruit. I think we should recruit tonight.
Thoughts?
Even Thor would be a good choice.
It would be good to confirm those players. Plus I think Thor, if town, is less likely to be NKed tonight. He could also be scum.
In fact I think you are going to be NKed tonight. You were good with your reads (especially in the end of D1), you pushed karnos' lynch hard, you are a very active player, and you might have given some PR vibes when asking people to claim.
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Post #32 (isolation #17) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:17 pm
Postby NJAC »
@Mod:
We can talk to the recruited mason before D2 starts, right? I mean he/she will be notified and given access to this PT as soon as we recruit him/her, right?
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Post #39 (isolation #19) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:23 pm
Postby NJAC »
Ok. So no need to rush things.
I'm fine with either recruiting Thor or BBT.
I hope you don't die tonight, but I see it likely. Anyway we have a little advantage after lynching a scum in the very first day, so you already did an awesome job.
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Post #40 (isolation #20) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:27 pm
Postby NJAC »
Oh well, the recruited mason will have access to this thread when D2 starts. So we might leave them a message, like advising them to crumb like we did on D1's first posts.
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Post #52 (isolation #26) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:29 am
Postby NJAC »
I'm leaning to recruit Thor. I think he's more scummy in my eyes than BBT. Unless you think Thor is more likely to be town and a likely NK.
Now, whoever we decide to recruit, if he turns out to be scum, and you survive, you should out him, but probably wait until the end of D2 to see how other players behave around a pushing of his lynch.
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Post #56 (isolation #28) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:40 am
Postby NJAC »
I'm doing minor changes to your draft, cause I'm assuming one of us could die tonight:
If you are town, Thor:
First, consider crumbing like we did day 1. It may happen that we never need this but just in case it's better to crumb. This is done using the first letter of your first 5-6 posts on D2. Write it as "MSN W..." then start your next post(s) with "Zyf" and/or "NJAC" completing the crumb.
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Post #65 (isolation #31) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:41 am
Postby NJAC »
In post 49, NJAC wrote:Ok, then let me see the scenarios:
Worst case scenario is recruting someone who gets NKed tonight. We would have wasted our action.
Best case scenario is picking a scum, I think, so we can out a second scum tomorrow.
In between them there's the scenario in which we recruit a townie who doesn't die tonight.
So, we should probably pick the scummiest player to confirm their alignment.
Even better scenario is: Thor is scum, neither of us die tonight, we get to lynch him without claiming. I mean, if Thor is scum one of us should only claim if strictly necessary. I can see it likely to lynch him just making a case against him, without claiming.
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Post #91 (isolation #39) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:21 am
Postby NJAC »
LOL, it's more the "such is my claim" part that could give clue to scum, but as I said I think you did fine. Had they noted the claim or not, scum are probably debating in their PT if you were recruited, and I wager they're considering shooting you right now.
Anyway, I might be wrong and we are all surviving tonight. We should not bother to bet on it, but to discuss who's scum.
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Post #94 (isolation #40) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:20 am
Postby NJAC »
Io's death was an attempt to kill a mason, I think. Scum priority is to kill a mason right now. That's why I was considering our chances of surviving. But we've had enough of it.
I like your reads Thor, and I'm doing some ISOs right now. So far I find the interactions between karnos and N_M interesting. Karnos pushed a lot for a N_M lynch, even to the point of defending Martha/texcat's slot, and encouraging people to move to N_M's wagon. I'm afraid N_M could be town . It's annoying how antitown he is.
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Post #106 (isolation #44) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:08 am
Postby NJAC »
That went pretty well, I think game is almost solved now. So the correct recruit choice was BBT after all.
I admit I had my doubts about him being scum. Now assuming the third scum didn't vote BBT (bussing would be suicidal), then it's a simple choice between Penguin and texcat. Though DeasVail's hammer could be a desperate scum move to gain some cred, but at this point, with two masons left alive chances of winning are almost null for scum. So yeah: Penguin or texcat.